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  27. # [09:01] <MikeSmith> http://www.w3.org/mid/DCBC317F-A635-4B6B-8086-B8B62442EABF@iki.fi
  28. # [09:01] <pimpbot> Title: Reasoning behind the async attribute from Henri Sivonen on 2009-07-10 (public-html@w3.org from July 2009) (at www.w3.org)
  29. # [09:01] <MikeSmith> noticed that there was no reply to that on the list
  30. # [09:02] <MikeSmith> wondering if there was maybe a reply on IRC instead
  31. # [09:11] <Hixie> it's on my pile
  32. # [09:11] <Hixie> he only sent it a few weeks ago!
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  39. # [11:08] <pimpbot> planet: Centering a canvas <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1152203/centering-a-canvas>
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  53. # [13:38] <MikeSmith> http://cloudofdata.com/2009/07/does-linked-data-need-rdf/
  54. # [13:38] <pimpbot> Title: Does Linked Data need RDF ? | Paul Miller - The Cloud of Data (at cloudofdata.com)
  55. # [13:38] <MikeSmith> Paul Miller: "The problem, I contend, comes when well-meaning and knowledgeable advocates of both Linked Data and RDF conflate the two and infer, imply or assert that ‘Linked Data’ can only be Linked Data if expressed in RDF."
  56. # [13:40] <MikeSmith> Kingsley Idehen: 'The RDF (Resource Description Framework) Data Model is just an example of an EAV/CR model [1], and I think the deeper question is: can you have an “HTTP based Web of Linked Data” without the combination of HTTP Identifiers (HTTP URIs) and an Entity-Attribute-Value + Classes & Relationships model? The answer to the question above is an emphatic "NO"'
  57. # [13:41] <MikeSmith> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entity-Attribute-Value_model
  58. # [13:41] <pimpbot> Title: Entity-attribute-value model - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
  59. # [13:44] <MikeSmith> that really should more clearly by called "object-property-value"
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  61. # [13:48] <MikeSmith> hmm, why does the HTML5 spec not allow surrogates in character references?
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  63. # [13:49] <MikeSmith> do browsers not recognize surrogate pairs if they are written a character references?
  64. # [13:51] <gsnedders|work> They aren't surrogate pairs.
  65. # [13:51] <gsnedders|work> Surrogate pairs only exist in UTF-16, and don't exist in the abstract Unicode string in which character references occur (as you've already decoded that from the source encoding)
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  67. # [13:56] <Philip> They're well-formedness errors in XML too, I think
  68. # [14:01] <gsnedders|work> Yeah
  69. # [14:01] <gsnedders|work> character references have to match a character that matches Char in XML
  70. # [14:08] <pimpbot> planet: Canvas, accessibility and SVG <http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2009/canvas-accessibility-and-svg/>
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  76. # [16:40] <MikeSmith> http://my.opera.com/hallvors/blog/show.dml/4163177
  77. # [16:40] <pimpbot> Title: Hallvord R. M. Steen - Most expensive javascript ever? (at my.opera.com)
  78. # [16:43] <Lachy> LOL
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  80. # [16:57] <takkaria> hah
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  106. # [20:34] <MikeSmith> @changes
  107. # [20:34] <pimpbot> MikeSmith: "hixie: Uglify the spec for zcorpan. (whatwg r3427)" (6 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jul/0135.html> ** "hixie: Make 'dependencies' its own top-level section, like in the other specs. (whatwg r3426)" (5 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jul/0129.html> ** hixie: Somehow these got missed when changing (44 more messages)
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