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  15. # [02:53] <MikeSmith> bug 7135
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  17. # [02:54] <MikeSmith> bug 7135
  18. # [02:54] <pimpbot> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7135 mike@w3.org, P2, NEW, fix HTML5 facet so that it doesn't incorrectly warn "No Character Encoding Found"
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  22. # [04:14] <MikeSmith> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=mindless-collectives-rational-decision-making
  23. # [04:15] <pimpbot> Title: Mindless Collectives Better at Rational Decision-Making Than Brainy Individuals: Scientific American (at www.scientificamerican.com)
  24. # [04:15] <MikeSmith> "the very ignorance of the lone ants might be key. Instead of making comparisons between choices that can sway humans toward irrational decisions, individual ants typically know of just one option, which prevents them from making potentially misleading comparisons."
  25. # [04:16] <MikeSmith> "maybe there is another reason why what looks like an irrational decision is actually a good thing."
  26. # [04:16] <MikeSmith> "getting lots of information about a problem may not help decision making if you have only limited computational capacity to process it. You might do better with a strategically limited set of information."
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  53. # [11:08] <heycam> MikeSmith, is it possible to include Hixie's commit messages when your spec splitting script commits?
  54. # [11:08] <heycam> that'd be better than "updated by splitter" if possible
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  58. # [11:26] <MikeSmith> heycam: yeah, I'll try to add that
  59. # [11:27] <MikeSmith> but we do got public-html-diffs, which is meant to filter out the junk and just have the interesting stuff
  60. # [11:31] <MikeSmith> heycam: actually it's just a cron job, not activated by commit
  61. # [11:32] <MikeSmith> yeah, I know I should have it be triggered by commits instead
  62. # [11:32] <MikeSmith> but I don't have access to add commit hooks
  63. # [11:32] <MikeSmith> and what I have done for similar cases is to set up a mailbot on my own server
  64. # [11:33] <MikeSmith> which is a PITA
  65. # [11:33] <MikeSmith> but I will try to get something more useful set up next week
  66. # [11:34] * Philip 's spec-splitter gets pinged by Hixie, to trigger regeneration
  67. # [11:36] <MikeSmith> yeah, the actual spec-splitter part works perfectly
  68. # [11:36] <MikeSmith> my hacky stuff is where the trouble starts
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  70. # [11:40] <Philip> You get bonus points if you svn up spec-splitter.py automatically
  71. # [11:41] <Philip> though I might accidentally commit a system("rm -rf /") line for purely innocent reasons
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  75. # [13:17] <gsnedders|work> Marcos? in #public-html? what's the world coming to?
  76. # [13:18] <Marcos> hehe
  77. # [13:18] <gsnedders|work> Or #html-wg or whatever this place is
  78. # [13:18] <gsnedders|work> :P
  79. # [13:19] <Marcos> gsnedders|work: well, when ya can't beat 'em.... :)
  80. # [13:20] <Marcos> what's happened to this IRC channel? it used to be a party in here.
  81. # [13:20] <gsnedders|work> Nah, the party is in #whatwg
  82. # [13:21] <Marcos> makes sense :)
  83. # [13:23] <gsnedders|work> Marcos: Now come visit us :P
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  92. # [16:58] <pimpbot> planet: Simple Color Variation <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1177826/simple-color-variation> ** Why (some) standards fail <http://www.glazman.org/weblog/dotclear/index.php?post/2009/07/24/Why-some-standards-fail>
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  117. # [22:02] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7137] New: Need to fill in the references section. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jul/0038.html>
  118. # [22:03] <Hixie> it works! woo
  119. # [22:04] <takkaria> it works?
  120. # [22:05] <Hixie> you can now file a bug straight from the spec
  121. # [22:05] <Hixie> without getting an account or anything
  122. # [22:05] <takkaria> oh, nice
  123. # [22:08] <miketaylr> that's awesome
  124. # [22:08] <miketaylr> took me a minute to find it though ;)
  125. # [22:09] <Hixie> well it can't be TOO discoverable, or we'll get all kinds of people submitting comments :-P
  126. # [22:09] <Hixie> i figure anyone who can't find the text box needs to pay more attention to the spec before commenting :-P
  127. # [22:10] <miketaylr> haha
  128. # [22:10] <miketaylr> yeah, i guess you have to read at least one screen-full before you deserve to see it
  129. # [22:14] <Philip> Is it intentional that it only seems to work in the (incredibly slow) single page version?
  130. # [22:15] <Hixie> I'm adding it to the multipage copy as we speak
  131. # [22:15] <Hixie> that requires regenning the multipage copy so it takes longer, so i didn't develop it in the multipage copy
  132. # [22:16] <Hixie> you know, i don't know what browsers you guys are using, but the single page copy is fast as hell on my safari running on this years-old macbook pro
  133. # [22:16] <Hixie> so you might want to file bugs with your browser vendors if the single-page copy is slow
  134. # [22:17] <Philip> It's painfully slow in Firefox 3.5 in Linux on a reasonably fast machine
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  136. # [22:17] <Philip> and I'm not even going to try it in Opera
  137. # [22:18] <Philip> I dislike any web page that makes my CPU fans start whirring at maximum speed
  138. # [22:18] <Lachy> yay, that will make it easier to report typos
  139. # [22:22] <Hixie> well i think i set off the multipage updater
  140. # [22:22] <Hixie> gonna go for lunch now though
  141. # [22:22] <Hixie> we'll see if it's there when i get back
  142. # [22:24] <Philip> It's there now
  143. # [22:25] <Philip> Hmm, it looks like I can use it to report bugs on the "Watch for updates" UI
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  147. # [22:32] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7139] New: test <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jul/0040.html> ** [Bug 7138] New: Need to get window.mediaMode into another spec <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jul/0039.html>
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