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  7. # [00:27] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Allow port banning in WebSocket. (whatwg r3483) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jul/0219.html> ** "hixie: readyState should be an unsigned short, like its constants. (whatwg r3481)" (3 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jul/0218.html>
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  19. # [01:58] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: websocket: Define how buffering works a bit better; add a .bufferedAmount attribute and make send() return a boolean. (whatwg r3485) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jul/0220.html>
  20. # [02:28] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Disallow nesting <video> and <audio> since the fallback is specifically for UAs that don't support <video> or <audio>. (whatwg r3488) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jul/0223.html> ** hixie: tooLong applies only to modified content, not new content. Oops. (whatwg r3487) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jul/0222.html> ** hixie: Make <applet>, <object>, and <embed> not instanti
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  23. # [02:58] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: hasFeature() strings. If any of these combinations can be reduced to being only supported by one browser, I'll drop them from the spec. (whatwg r3490) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jul/0225.html> ** hixie: Make accesskey='' activate/click elements, not just focus them. This includes a horrific paragraph of confusingness. Let me know if you can find a clear way to rephrase it. (whatwg r3489) <http://lists
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  28. # [03:28] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: I've surrounded myself with pedants. (define what bgColor and co do with frameset as the body element) (whatwg r3493) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jul/0228.html> ** hixie: Not all the subsections are parse errors, so... (whatwg r3492) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jul/0227.html> ** hixie: Tweak microdata vcard example. Add appcache v2 idea for multiuser appcaches. (what
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  31. # [04:28] <pimpbot> changes: "mike: make content models for <script>, <style>, <textarea>, and <title> correct" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jul/0230.html>
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  34. # [04:58] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7161] New: If a heading has title text and then an image below it, then more text, how is the figure element handled in header and hgroup elements? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jul/0064.html>
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  36. # [05:28] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7161] If a heading has title text and then an image below it, then more text, how is the figure element handled in header and hgroup elements? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jul/0065.html>
  37. # [05:55] <pimpbot> planet: Mozilla Platform Meeting Minutes: 2009-07-28 <http://blog.mozilla.com/meeting-notes/archives/206>
  38. # [06:29] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 7161] If a heading has title text and then an image below it, then more text, how is the figure element handled in header and hgroup elements?" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jul/0066.html>
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  44. # [07:59] <pimpbot> changes: mike: fixed handling of normal-character-data links in doc for <iframe> and <option> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jul/0231.html>
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  51. # [09:29] <pimpbot> changes: mike: added "Details" subsection to some elements <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jul/0232.html>
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  53. # [10:00] <pimpbot> changes: mike: further streamlining of <meter> documentation <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jul/0234.html> ** mike: made refinements to documentation for <meter> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jul/0233.html>
  54. # [10:30] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Clarify what 0-value means. (whatwg r3494) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jul/0235.html>
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  71. # [12:30] <pimpbot> changes: mike: fix problem that was causing broken links in <source> documentation <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jul/0237.html>
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  73. # [12:56] <pimpbot> planet: Hip hip hooray for San Jose <http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2009/hip-hip-hooray-for-san-jose/>
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  82. # [14:31] <pimpbot> changes: mike: un-share the documentation for all attributes that are common to <a>, <area>, and <link> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jul/0240.html>
  83. # [15:01] <pimpbot> changes: mike: made further tweaks to descriptions for some <a> attributes <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Jul/0241.html>
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  95. # [15:43] * anne2 wonders where the dubious claim comes from that HTML5 URLs are somehow in conflict with IDNs
  96. # [15:45] <Lachy> I suspect it comes from people being confused about the difference between what's considered a conforming URL in HTML5, and how URLs need to be processed whether they're conforming or not.
  97. # [15:46] <anne2> even non-conforming URLs did not conflict with IDNs afaik
  98. # [15:46] <anne2> s/did/do/
  99. # [15:48] <Lachy> have they identified what the conflict is?
  100. # [15:49] <anne2> no, afaict: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-archive/2009Jul/0176.html
  101. # [15:49] <pimpbot> Title: RE: Publishing a new draft from Larry Masinter on 2009-07-29 (www-archive@w3.org from July 2009) (at lists.w3.org)
  102. # [16:21] <karl> Often at the office, when designing web sites there are all kind of discussions about the position of the search box in the UI. Some browsers now propose in their UI a drop down list of search engines. I wonder how hard it would be to have a <link rel="searchengine" href="http://example.org/mycustomsearchengine"/> which would put in the chrome the site search engine (a bit like title of the page gets into the chrome.)
  103. # [16:22] <anne2> there's already features to that effect afaik
  104. # [16:22] <karl> anne2: in html5
  105. # [16:22] <karl> ?
  106. # [16:22] <anne2> no, separately
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  109. # [16:26] <karl> http://www.opensearch.org/Specifications/OpenSearch/1.1#Autodiscovery_in_HTML.2FXHTML
  110. # [16:26] <pimpbot> Title: Specifications/OpenSearch/1.1/Draft 4 - OpenSearch (at www.opensearch.org)
  111. # [16:27] <karl> implemented in Google chrome.
  112. # [16:27] <karl> I wonder for other browsers
  113. # [16:28] <karl> > firefox 2
  114. # [16:28] <karl> IE7
  115. # [16:28] <Philip> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenSearch#Search_engines_and_software_that_support_OpenSearch
  116. # [16:28] <pimpbot> Title: OpenSearch - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (at en.wikipedia.org)
  117. # [16:29] <karl> Philip: thanks
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  122. # [17:58] <pimpbot> planet: complete client side application using HTML 5 <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1200870/complete-client-side-application-using-html-5> ** Embed video in web page (HTML). <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1200719/embed-video-in-web-page-html>
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  138. # [21:02] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7157] I would like to see theora/vorbis as HTML5 standard. I'm tired of codec patents. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jul/0072.html> ** [Bug 7156] I would like to see theora/vorbis as HTML5 standard. I'm tired of codec patents. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Jul/0071.html> ** [Bug 7157] I would like to see theora/vorbis as HTML5 standard. I'm tired of codec patents. <
  139. # [21:03] <Hixie> larry didn't reply to my e-mail. :-(
  140. # [21:13] <annevk> which one?
  141. # [21:19] <Hixie> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Jul/0828.html
  142. # [21:19] <pimpbot> Title: RE: Publishing a new draft (was: Draft of summary text for HTML 5 poll) from Ian Hickson on 2009-07-29 (public-html@w3.org from July 2009) (at lists.w3.org)
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