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  12. # [01:14] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7237] New: Let current outlinee be null. (It holds the element whose outline is being created.) Spelling. Outline with one "e" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Aug/0031.html>
  13. # [01:15] <Philip> Someone needs to make a bot that lets you close invalid bugs with a quick IRC message
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  16. # [01:44] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Allow File, FileData, and FileList to be passed through postMessage(). (whatwg r3548) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Aug/0055.html>
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  20. # [02:15] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Remove support for <script defer> with no src='', and remove the associated magic with innerHTML that this involved. (whatwg r3550) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Aug/0057.html> ** hixie: Make Storage support structured data, not just strings. (whatwg r3549) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Aug/0056.html>
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  41. # [04:41] <pimpbot> planet: HTML 5 websockets free ebook <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1242610/html-5-websockets-free-ebook>
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  60. # [09:16] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7238] New: more examples <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Aug/0032.html>
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  66. # [09:43] <pimpbot> planet: HTML5 Audio Soundboard <http://blog.mozilla.com/webdev/2009/08/06/html5-audio-soundboard/>
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  76. # [10:44] <pimpbot> planet: Verbosio progress, 08/06/2009 <http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/weirdal/archives/020174.html>
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  84. # [11:59] <Julian> Hixie, for mime type regsitrations in the standards tree the standards body registering the mime type needs to be the change controller
  85. # [11:59] <Julian> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4288#section-3.1
  86. # [11:59] <pimpbot> Title: RFC 4288 - Media Type Specifications and Registration Procedures (at tools.ietf.org)
  87. # [12:00] <Hixie> i wonder how the IETF will take WHATWG/W3C joint change controller ownership
  88. # [12:01] <Julian> that may be tricky, keep in mind you need IESG approval
  89. # [12:02] <Hixie> not really
  90. # [12:02] <Hixie> i mean, the types will end up used either way
  91. # [12:02] <Hixie> if they want to block things for bureaucratic reasons, that's their prerogative, but they're the ones who lose credibility
  92. # [12:03] <Julian> process-wise it probably makes more sense to just update RFC2854 when HTML5 is done (for text/html; haven't looked at the others)
  93. # [12:03] <Hixie> why?
  94. # [12:04] <Hixie> w3c types are supposed to be registered within the w3c document
  95. # [12:05] <Julian> they could, but they haven't for HTML4 (AFAIK)
  96. # [12:05] <Julian> so you're trying to change that; which may be more work than just sticking to it
  97. # [12:05] <Hixie> that's because that came out before the new process
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  99. # [12:07] <Julian> which new process?
  100. # [12:07] <Julian> 4288?
  101. # [12:08] <Hixie> the w3c/ietf agreement for w3c registering mime types
  102. # [12:08] <Hixie> anyway, bed time
  103. # [12:08] <Hixie> nn
  104. # [12:17] <pimpbot> changes: "hixie: Apparently change controllers need to be standards organisations, not people. (whatwg r3554)" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Aug/0062.html> ** hixie: We've said it's a UTF-8 doc, so mentioning the encoding again is redundant. (whatwg r3553) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Aug/0060.html> ** "hixie: Include MIME type registration sections. (whatwg r355
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  109. # [14:24] <_ScaR_> Hi all, I'm having problems with fixing the length of an input box, could anyone help me out?
  110. # [14:24] <_ScaR_> I am using this code: <input type="text" width="60px" /> And it doesn't fix it in the browser
  111. # [14:24] <_ScaR_> However, when previewing in Dreamweaver, it shows up Ok
  112. # [14:26] <Philip> _ScaR_: You probably want <input type="text" style="width: 60px">
  113. # [14:27] <_ScaR_> Oh thanks
  114. # [14:34] <_ScaR_> Is this irc for PhP aswell?
  115. # [14:35] <_ScaR_> anyway, if you have some PhP/MySQL knowledge, could someone help me out with this query? http://pastebin.com/m401e4201
  116. # [14:35] <pimpbot> Title: PHP pastebin - collaborative debugging tool (at pastebin.com)
  117. # [14:35] <_ScaR_> Getting errors, when querying
  118. # [14:36] <Sander> _ScaR_: this channel isn't for support questions at all, but rather for the development of the html _specification_. Try #web, #php etc (And then look at the topics there for probable redirection to the newbie channels)
  119. # [14:37] <_ScaR_> Oh, okay, thanks Sander
  120. # [14:37] <Sander> Erm, those channels are on freenode - forgot for a second that this was the w3.org server
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  130. # [17:18] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7241] New: Need to explain exactly what happens if wrap=hard is specified *without* cols being specified. Should it act like wrap=soft, or like cols=20? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Aug/0033.html>
  131. # [17:18] <pimpbot> changes: "mike: made a number of refinements to the Syntax section" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Aug/0064.html>
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  134. # [17:48] * DanC accidently spent an hour researching the history of @summary. sigh. I wasn't going to get sucked into this soap opera today
  135. # [18:01] <Lachy> DanC, did you at least manage to come up with any information?
  136. # [18:02] <DanC> very little. I found the relevant CVS commit, dated 1997/09/12 14:57:28. for +1867 -1113 lines of changes, the complete change comment was "axes etc."
  137. # [18:04] <Lachy> who made the change?
  138. # [18:06] <DanC> Dave Raggett. I forwarded hsivonen's question to him and a few others.
  139. # [18:06] <Lachy> ok
  140. # [18:08] <Philip> Just think, a dozen years from now people will be having similar amounts of fun trying to work out the reasoning behind decisions in HTML5
  141. # [18:10] <Lachy> Philip, but unlike with HTML4, that won't be caused by too little discussion, but rather too much to filter through
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  145. # [18:15] <Philip> Hopefully the future will have better tools for searching 50K emails and 50MB of IRC logs
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  147. # [18:32] * DanC wonders if there are lots of copies of the IRC logs
  148. # [18:33] <Philip> I have an independent copy of the #whatwg/#html-wg logs, mostly continuously from when I first joined the channel
  149. # [18:33] <Philip> and I guess other people with logging IRC clients have the same
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  151. # [18:47] <pimpbot> planet: Which browsers support the html 5 <audio> tag on Windows today? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1007223/which-browsers-support-the-html-5-audio-tag-on-windows-today> ** Which browsers support html5 offline storage? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1194784/which-browsers-support-html5-offline-storage>
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  157. # [19:47] <pimpbot> planet: Different use cases for live video want different display options <http://jboriss.wordpress.com/2009/08/07/different-use-cases-for-live-video-want-different-display-options/>
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  177. # [22:48] <pimpbot> planet: Weird CSS behavior (sprite nav w/rollover) <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1246871/weird-css-behavior-sprite-nav-w-rollover>
  178. # [22:50] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Remove <datagrid> for now. People aren't happy with the current design and we won't have time to address it soon. We'll get back to it in a future version. (whatwg r3555) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Aug/0065.html>
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