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  4. # [00:38] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Remove meaningless 'also'. (whatwg r3757) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Sep/0013.html> ** hixie: Tidy up how 'abort' and 'emptied' events fire when you call load() while it's already loading. (whatwg r3756) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Sep/0012.html>
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  11. # [01:08] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: minor typo fixes (whatwg r3758) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Sep/0014.html>
  12. # [01:08] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7501] New: Change "The value must be a short free-form string THAT giving the name of the Web application that the page represents." It should read- "The value must be a short free-form string giving the name of the Web application that the page represents." <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0038.html>
  13. # [01:39] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Clarify a note on Option() constructor. (whatwg r3762) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Sep/0018.html> ** hixie: xref 'tasks' (whatwg r3761) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Sep/0017.html> ** hixie: autocomplete=off should also disabled autocomplete of past stored values. (whatwg r3760) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Sep/0016.html> ** hixie:
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  17. # [02:09] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: More minor fixes. (whatwg r3763) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Sep/0019.html>
  18. # [02:09] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7502] New: The clarification that the footer can be used as a site-wide footer or a section footer is not inherently clear via the spec. I suggest specifically stating just that: use for a section or an entire site. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0039.html>
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  37. # [06:04] <karl> http://www.bigcontrarian.com/2009/09/04/tagged/
  38. # [06:04] <pimpbot> Title: Big Contrarian Tagged. (at www.bigcontrarian.com)
  39. # [06:04] <karl> "HTML5, as drafted, is just setting us up for new lies."
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  45. # [07:10] <Hixie> woah, when did http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/w3c-policy/current/maillist.html become password-protected?
  46. # [07:10] <Hixie> so much for openness
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  51. # [08:10] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7503] New: there is no specification for detection of this feature. how do i know whether to use draggable="true" or revert to a drag simulation library like scriptaculous? - jkwon.work@gmail.com <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0040.html>
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  66. # [13:11] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7504] New: Occurrences of the terms "Raw text elements", "RCDATA elements", "Foreign elements" and "Normal elements" in the prose of this section should link to their definitions in the definition list above. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0041.html>
  67. # [13:41] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7505] New: interface HTMLIFrameElement : HTMLElement { attribute DOMString src; attribute DOMString name; attribute DOMString sandbox; attribute boolean seamless; attribute DOMString width; attribute <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0042.html>
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  102. # [18:36] <annevk> rubys, why would HTML5 reference the <keygen> document?
  103. # [18:36] <annevk> seems to me it would be the other way around
  104. # [18:37] <annevk> I can see with that assumption why you wanted things to be optional...
  105. # [18:37] <rubys> that would be perfectly cool. Those that wanted to implement <keygen> could chose to do so.
  106. # [18:37] <annevk> but I don't understand the assumption
  107. # [18:37] <annevk> anyway, I still think it should be part of HTML5
  108. # [18:38] <rubys> we've talked about splitting canvas out... but with a normative reference, making it clear that it is not optional.
  109. # [18:38] <rubys> feel free to convince MSFT that they need to implement <keygen>
  110. # [18:38] <annevk> I never really got that either
  111. # [18:39] <rubys> never got what?
  112. # [18:39] <annevk> the splitting out <canvas> but still referencing it normatively and all
  113. # [18:40] <rubys> I'm not sure I got that either. I think it was something to do with evolving at different pace.
  114. # [18:40] <rubys> (more specifically: reving canvas faster than HTML)
  115. # [18:41] <annevk> I guess, I've yet to see something go a lot faster than HTML5
  116. # [18:41] <annevk> seems HTML5 is mostly awaiting a new version of Web DOM Core, DOM Level 3 Events, WAI-ARIA, etc. at this point
  117. # [18:42] <rubys> I don't think we've heard all the input from MSFT that we are going to get either. It is a shame that they didn't participate earlier, but what is done is done, and we need to make sure that we do get their input.
  118. # [18:43] <annevk> yeah, thankfully they say a bit more now
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