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  6. # [01:51] * Topic is 'Pursuing conformance solutions for the N-body gravitational system known as "the Web", and in general, collectively performing various acts of unparalleled hubris (This channel is logged: http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/)'
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  13. # [02:52] <MikeSmith> action-136?
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  15. # [02:52] <trackbot> ACTION-136 -- Matthew May to send draft to the list, due in three weeks -- due 2009-09-17 -- OPEN
  16. # [02:52] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/136
  17. # [02:52] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-136 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  18. # [02:54] <MikeSmith> action-136: Cynthia Shelley posted message to the list - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Sep/0553.html - which points to a draft at http://dev.w3.org/html5/pf-summary/Overview.html#the-table-element
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  20. # [02:54] <trackbot> ACTION-136 Send draft to the list, due in three weeks notes added
  21. # [02:54] <pimpbot> Title: FW: [html] Summary draft from Cynthia Shelly on 2009-09-14 (public-html@w3.org from September 2009) (at lists.w3.org)
  22. # [02:59] <MikeSmith> action-137?
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  24. # [02:59] <trackbot> ACTION-137 -- Larry Masinter to update IRI spec based on comments to Public-IRI (Including those from HTML-WG members), -- due 2009-09-17 -- PENDINGREVIEW
  25. # [02:59] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/137
  26. # [02:59] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-137 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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  28. # [03:16] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: hex digits to Z? no... (whatwg r3849) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Sep/0106.html>
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  33. # [03:46] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Allow <span title=&> since the syntax section says it's ok. (whatwg r3852) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Sep/0109.html> ** hixie: Rename a state for consistency. (whatwg r3851) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Sep/0108.html> ** hixie: Make hashchange and popstate fire after scrolling and UA updates. (whatwg r3850) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/20
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  41. # [04:46] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7623] New: It'd be really nice if you specified if the angle argument to context.rotate accepts degrees, radians, or what. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0325.html>
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  45. # [06:17] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Add note about why we strip all BOMs. (whatwg r3853) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Sep/0110.html>
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  50. # [07:47] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Cloning an <input> element saves state. (whatwg r3854) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Sep/0111.html>
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  69. # [09:30] <CIA-1> v.nu-htmlparser: sideshowbarker * r584 /trunk/src/nu/validator/htmlparser/impl/Tokenizer.java:
  70. # [09:30] <CIA-1> v.nu-htmlparser: made ">" an "additional allowed character" after "&" in unquoted attribute values, such that <span title=&> does not cause a parse error (b=653, r=hsivonen)
  71. # [09:30] <CIA-1> v.nu-htmlparser: http://bugzilla.validator.nu/show_bug.cgi?id=653
  72. # [09:30] <pimpbot> Title: Bug 653 Allow since the syntax section says it's ok. (whatwg r3852) (at bugzilla.validator.nu)
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  79. # [10:48] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Update the syntax section to more correctly handle newlines. (whatwg r3858) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Sep/0114.html> ** hixie: Elaborate on <noscript> example. (whatwg r3856) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Sep/0113.html>
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  86. # [12:18] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7625] New: Since "event handler attributes" is an abstract concept it might be better to just call it "event handlers" so attributes is not confused with either IDL or content attributes here. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0326.html>
  87. # [12:49] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7626] New: Spec says: "Note: Removing an event handler content attribute does not reset the corresponding event handler attribute.". In fact browsers will remove or "deactivate" the listener when you remove the HTML attribute. Some browsers reset it to null or undef <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0327.html>
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  89. # [13:16] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: sideshowbarker * r466 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
  90. # [13:16] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: updated the assertions-checking code to prohibit nesting of <time>, <progress>, and <meter> (b=649)
  91. # [13:16] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: http://bugzilla.validator.nu/show_bug.cgi?id=649
  92. # [13:16] <pimpbot> Title: Bug 649 Prevent nesting , , (at bugzilla.validator.nu)
  93. # [13:19] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Parser changes: <dc>, <ds>, <dialog> are now treated differently. Styling changes: <dialog>, <dc>, <ds>, and <details> are now treated differently. Semantic changes: Dropped <dialog>. <figure> and <details> now use <dt>/<dd> instead of <legend>. Editorial changes: Added a section on how to mark up conversations, moved the sections on footnotes and tag clouds around. Updated lots of examples. Validator changes: Changed rules for missing alt=''
  94. # [13:19] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7509] Consider <dl type="dialog"> instead of <dialog> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0330.html> ** [Bug 7508] <dialog> needs a way to add non-speech related information <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0329.html> ** [Bug 7548] replace <dialog> with advice <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0328.html>
  95. # [13:47] <pimpbot> planet: First sign of WebGL lands in WebKit <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ajaxian/~3/ubBPqXvdgJg/webgl-webkit>
  96. # [13:49] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Use <sup> around footnote in example. (whatwg r3862) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Sep/0118.html> ** hixie: Move <div> and <legend> to more appropriate spots. (whatwg r3861) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Sep/0117.html> ** hixie: Clarify where <dt> and <dd> are allowed with <figure> and <details> (whatwg r3860) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/200
  97. # [13:49] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7433] maybe tiny typo in example with figure: the last <figure> should be </figure> ? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0332.html> ** [Bug 7374] legend as child of details, figure is unstylable and thus unusable <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0331.html>
  98. # [14:19] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Include an example for how to get the filename out of input.value (whatwg r3863) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Sep/0119.html>
  99. # [14:19] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7627] New: Cross-reference more occurrences of "being rendered". <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0333.html>
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  102. # [14:49] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7629] New: When the dd element is used inside figure and details it should probably not have margin by default. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0335.html> ** [Bug 7628] New: The later 'block' box container should simply map to the first/last dd element. This makes UA implementations easier and script emulation of the feature in contemporary UAs as well. Both can simply toggle the display property between
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  109. # [15:47] <pimpbot> planet: How to let Eclipse accept the canvas tag? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1216762/how-to-let-eclipse-accept-the-canvas-tag>
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  115. # [16:47] <pimpbot> planet: Ruby, Rack and headers such as "Accept-Ranges" or "X-Content-Duration" <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1373801/ruby-rack-and-headers-such-as-accept-ranges-or-x-content-duration>
  116. # [16:49] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7632] New: Should resource selection algorithm be run when src="" is removed? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0337.html> ** [Bug 7631] New: Don't invoke resource selection algorithm when inserting <source> if src="" is present <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0336.html>
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  123. # [17:20] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7633] New: The use of @summary should be encouraged when circumstances warrant <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0338.html>
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  126. # [17:50] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7632] Should resource selection algorithm be run when src="" is removed? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0340.html> ** [Bug 7631] Don't invoke resource selection algorithm when inserting <source> if src="" is present <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0339.html>
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  137. # [19:48] <pimpbot> planet: Future of Web Design, Glasgow <http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2009/future-of-web-design-glasgow/>
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  142. # [20:48] <pimpbot> planet: Sporting a new stable release <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Egta/~3/0TZI4JVfce0/sporting-new-stable-release.html>
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  148. # [21:20] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7637] New: Where is HTMLAnchorElement.name defined? I don't see it here nor in the main interface definition <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0343.html> ** [Bug 7636] New: shouldn't dom-table-summary be part of the HTMLTableElement interface proper? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0342.html> ** [Bug 7635] New: Include an example with the table rearranged so that i
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  157. # [21:49] <pimpbot> planet: Compare/contrast HTML, XHTML, XML, and HTML5 <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1429065/compare-contrast-html-xhtml-xml-and-html5> ** DjangoCon wrapup <http://spindrop.us/2009/09/15/djangocon-wrapup/>
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  160. # [21:51] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7638] New: editorial: Add a pointer to the supplemental interface behind a class=impl for all interfaces that have a supplemental interface in this spec (in the obsolete section) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0344.html>
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  164. # [22:21] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7639] New: Please remove "dc" and "ds" from the parser. Not supporting them means that some tag can't be omitted in a transition period, which is *not* a big problem. OTOH, if we want to introduce "dc" or "ds" that are supposed to be inline (or other), then it's a p <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0345.html>
  165. # [22:49] <pimpbot> planet: The devil in the details <http://adactio.com/journal/1609/>
  166. # [22:51] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7639] Please remove "dc" and "ds" from the parser <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0346.html>
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  168. # [23:21] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7640] New: The definition of the "isindex" element here makes such elements' main interface be HTMLElement rather than HTMLUnknownElement. I suppose that's not intended <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0347.html>
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  171. # [23:51] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7642] New: which attribute wins if both pointsize and size are specified? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Sep/0349.html> ** [Bug 7641] New: The rendering of <details> says everything but the first dt will be hidden, but the element definition says the first dd represents the details. Also, having overflow:hidden when the details are open probably has unintended side-effects like clipping cont <http://list
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