/irc-logs / w3c / #html-wg / 2009-10-02 / end

Options:

  1. # Session Start: Fri Oct 02 00:00:01 2009
  2. # Session Ident: #html-wg
  3. # [00:02] * Joins: MikeSmith (MikeSmithX@mcclure.w3.org)
  4. # [00:08] * Joins: shepazu (schepers@128.30.52.169)
  5. # [00:09] * Quits: aroben (aroben@71.58.77.15) (Connection reset by peer)
  6. # [00:11] * Quits: hober (ted@206.212.254.2) (Client exited)
  7. # [00:44] * Quits: deltab (deltab@82.36.30.34) (Ping timeout)
  8. # [00:52] * Joins: deltab (deltab@82.36.30.34)
  9. # [01:17] * Quits: MikeSmith (MikeSmithX@mcclure.w3.org) (Ping timeout)
  10. # [01:20] * Joins: J_Voracek (irchon@166.205.7.51)
  11. # [01:21] * Quits: J_Voracek (irchon@166.205.7.51) (Client exited)
  12. # [01:28] * Joins: dsinger (dsinger@118.0.81.67)
  13. # [01:31] * Quits: tH (Rob@82.4.89.172) (Ping timeout)
  14. # [01:34] * Quits: gsnedders (gsnedders@217.44.35.222) (Ping timeout)
  15. # [01:39] * Joins: gsnedders (gsnedders@86.139.218.73)
  16. # [01:45] * Quits: dsinger (dsinger@118.0.81.67) (Ping timeout)
  17. # [01:46] * Joins: dsinger (dsinger@118.0.81.67)
  18. # [01:52] * Joins: tH (Rob@82.4.89.172)
  19. # [01:53] * Quits: deltab (deltab@82.36.30.34) (Ping timeout)
  20. # [01:55] * Joins: deltab (deltab@82.36.30.34)
  21. # [02:06] * Quits: tlr (tlr@128.30.52.169) (Quit: tlr)
  22. # [02:12] * Joins: gavin (gavin@99.226.207.11)
  23. # [02:45] * Joins: mjs_ (mjs@17.246.17.16)
  24. # [02:46] * Quits: mjs (mjs@17.246.17.16) (Connection reset by peer)
  25. # [02:46] * mjs_ is now known as mjs
  26. # [02:55] * Quits: shepazu (schepers@128.30.52.169) (Quit: shepazu)
  27. # [03:02] * Quits: Julian (chatzilla@217.91.35.233) (Ping timeout)
  28. # [03:06] * Joins: Julian (chatzilla@217.91.35.233)
  29. # [03:07] * Parts: dsinger (dsinger@118.0.81.67)
  30. # [03:15] * Joins: heycam (cam@66.134.141.179)
  31. # [03:24] * Joins: MikeSmith (MikeSmithX@mcclure.w3.org)
  32. # [03:36] * Joins: shepazu (schepers@128.30.52.169)
  33. # [05:03] * Quits: mjs (mjs@17.246.17.16) (Quit: mjs)
  34. # [05:24] * Quits: gavin (gavin@99.226.207.11) (Ping timeout)
  35. # [05:29] * Joins: gavin (gavin@99.226.207.11)
  36. # [05:44] <pimpbot> planet: Taking it to the next dimension <http://vocamus.net/dave/?p=771>
  37. # [05:46] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: sideshowbarker * r467 /trunk/relaxng/datatype/java/src/org/whattf/datatype/MediaQuery.java:
  38. # [05:46] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: made "speech" a valid media type in datatype library (b=659)
  39. # [05:46] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: http://bugzilla.validator.nu/show_bug.cgi?id=659
  40. # [05:46] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: Thanks to Tab Atkins for the bug report.
  41. # [05:46] <pimpbot> Title: Bug 659 "speech" is flagged as an invalid value for media, contrary to what MQ says (at bugzilla.validator.nu)
  42. # [05:55] * Joins: mjs (mjs@69.181.42.237)
  43. # [06:08] * Quits: pimpbot (pimpbot@80.68.92.65) (Client exited)
  44. # [06:16] * Joins: pimpbot (pimpbot@80.68.92.65)
  45. # [06:17] <MikeSmith> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7779
  46. # [06:17] <pimpbot> 7779: nikunj.mehta@oracle.com, P2, NEW, Missing task source for application cache events
  47. # [06:17] <MikeSmith> @bug 7779
  48. # [06:17] <pimpbot> MikeSmith: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7779 nikunj.mehta@oracle.com, P2, NEW, Missing task source for application cache events
  49. # [06:20] <MikeSmith> @w3c bug 7779
  50. # [06:20] <pimpbot> MikeSmith: Huh?
  51. # [06:20] <MikeSmith> @bug w3c 7779
  52. # [06:20] <pimpbot> MikeSmith: Bug http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=w3c could not be retrieved: InvalidBugId
  53. # [06:20] <pimpbot> MikeSmith: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=7779 nikunj.mehta@oracle.com, P2, NEW, Missing task source for application cache events
  54. # [07:17] * Joins: MIkeSmithX (MikeSmithX@mcclure.w3.org)
  55. # [07:21] * Quits: MikeSmith (MikeSmithX@mcclure.w3.org) (Ping timeout)
  56. # [07:26] * MIkeSmithX is now known as MikeSmith
  57. # [07:46] <pimpbot> planet: WebGL in the wild <http://hacks.mozilla.org/2009/10/webgl-in-the-wild/>
  58. # [08:20] * Joins: annevk (opera@84.215.133.38)
  59. # [08:31] * Quits: deltab (deltab@82.36.30.34) (Ping timeout)
  60. # [08:31] * Joins: deltab (deltab@82.36.30.34)
  61. # [08:41] * Joins: sbublava (sbublava@77.118.46.71)
  62. # [09:43] * Quits: annevk (opera@84.215.133.38) (Quit: annevk)
  63. # [09:44] * Joins: mib_ji5vek (467c5f97@64.62.228.82)
  64. # [09:45] * Quits: mib_ji5vek (467c5f97@64.62.228.82) (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  65. # [10:00] * Joins: anne (annevk@213.236.208.22)
  66. # [10:14] * Quits: webben (benh@82.152.36.121) (Quit: Lost terminal)
  67. # [10:26] * Quits: mjs (mjs@69.181.42.237) (Quit: mjs)
  68. # [10:34] * Joins: webben (benh@217.12.15.52)
  69. # [10:36] * Quits: webben (benh@217.12.15.52) (Quit: Lost terminal)
  70. # [10:50] * Quits: sbublava (sbublava@77.118.46.71) (Quit: sbublava)
  71. # [10:56] * Joins: tlr (tlr@128.30.52.169)
  72. # [11:01] * Quits: MikeSmith (MikeSmithX@mcclure.w3.org) (Quit: Tomorrow to fresh woods, and pastures new.)
  73. # [11:04] * Joins: ROBOd (robod@89.122.216.38)
  74. # [11:29] * Quits: tlr (tlr@128.30.52.169) (Client exited)
  75. # [11:29] * Quits: Lachy (Lachlan@85.196.122.246) (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
  76. # [11:30] * Joins: tlr (tlr@128.30.52.169)
  77. # [11:47] <pimpbot> planet: How can I use the HTML5 canvas element in IE? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1332501/how-can-i-use-the-html5-canvas-element-in-ie> ** Is there an HTML5 RIA toolkit already available? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1508473/is-there-an-html5-ria-toolkit-already-available>
  78. # [11:49] * Joins: Lachy (Lachlan@213.236.208.22)
  79. # [11:51] * Joins: myakura (myakura@123.224.118.12)
  80. # [11:53] * Joins: MikeSmith (MikeSmithX@mcclure.w3.org)
  81. # [12:27] * Quits: tlr (tlr@128.30.52.169) (Quit: tlr)
  82. # [12:47] * Joins: kliehm (kliehm@212.47.9.61)
  83. # [12:47] * Quits: kliehm (kliehm@212.47.9.61) (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458])
  84. # [12:49] * Joins: kliehm (kliehm@212.47.9.61)
  85. # [12:49] * Quits: kliehm (kliehm@212.47.9.61) (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458])
  86. # [12:51] * Joins: kliehm (kliehm@212.47.9.61)
  87. # [12:51] * Joins: J_Voracek (irchon@166.205.6.166)
  88. # [12:51] * Quits: J_Voracek (irchon@166.205.6.166) (Client exited)
  89. # [12:51] * Quits: kliehm (kliehm@212.47.9.61) (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458])
  90. # [13:23] <CIA-1> v.nu-validator: sideshowbarker * r325 /trunk/spec/html5.html: freshen the V.nu copy of the spec, now that the <dialog>'s been removed
  91. # [13:26] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: sideshowbarker * r468 /trunk/relaxng/structural.rnc:
  92. # [13:26] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: <dialog> R.I.P (b=681)
  93. # [13:26] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: http://bugzilla.validator.nu/show_bug.cgi?id=661
  94. # [13:26] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: sideshowbarker * r469 /trunk/relaxng/tests/html5full-html/valid/ (004.xhtml 004.html): remove valid test cases for <dialog>, now that <dialog> is no more
  95. # [13:26] <pimpbot> Title: Bug 661 remove (at bugzilla.validator.nu)
  96. # [13:36] * Quits: MikeSmith (MikeSmithX@mcclure.w3.org) (Quit: Tomorrow to fresh woods, and pastures new.)
  97. # [13:49] * Quits: deltab (deltab@82.36.30.34) (Ping timeout)
  98. # [13:49] * Joins: deltab (deltab@82.36.30.34)
  99. # [14:02] <anne> Julian, httpbis seems to only have a leading OWS
  100. # [14:04] <Julian> header-field has trailing OWS
  101. # [14:04] <Julian> http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/draft-ietf-httpbis-p1-messaging-latest.html#header.fields
  102. # [14:04] <pimpbot> Title: HTTP/1.1, part 1: URIs, Connections, and Message Parsing (at greenbytes.de)
  103. # [14:05] <Julian> the individual header field ABNFs are work in progress
  104. # [14:05] <Julian> they are planned to only define the value (what's currently in the -v production)
  105. # [14:06] <anne> so if I define a header I should not need OWS?
  106. # [14:07] <Julian> Depends on what ABNF type you use
  107. # [14:07] <anne> httpbis
  108. # [14:07] <Julian> If you stick to RFC2616 notation, do it as Mark does
  109. # [14:07] <anne> my thinking is that httpbis will be done before CORS
  110. # [14:07] <anne> because you don't care about interop testing
  111. # [14:07] <Julian> If you use RFC 5234 notation, I'd recommend to define just the ABNF for the value of the header
  112. # [14:07] <anne> k
  113. # [14:08] <Julian> Anne, if you want assistance then I would recommend not to mix your question with insults
  114. # [14:09] <anne> isn't that just a fact?
  115. # [14:09] <anne> anyway, cheers
  116. # [14:24] * Joins: sbublava (sbublava@77.118.32.171)
  117. # [14:48] <pimpbot> planet: Drumbeat notes #7: four good ideas <http://commonspace.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/4goodidea/>
  118. # [14:48] * Joins: plh (plh@128.30.52.28)
  119. # [15:03] * Quits: myakura (myakura@123.224.118.12) (Quit: Leaving...)
  120. # [15:34] * Quits: Julian (chatzilla@217.91.35.233) (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.85 [Firefox 3.5.3/20090824101458])
  121. # [15:34] * Joins: Julian (chatzilla@217.91.35.233)
  122. # [15:40] * Joins: aroben (aroben@71.58.77.15)
  123. # [15:48] <pimpbot> planet: Firefox 3.6 plays HTML5 videos full-screen <http://design-noir.de/log/2009/10/firefox-3-6-plays-html5-videos-full-screen/>
  124. # [16:10] * Quits: aroben (aroben@71.58.77.15) (Ping timeout)
  125. # [16:15] * Joins: aroben (aroben@71.58.77.15)
  126. # [16:16] <Julian> is one of the CSP authors present here?
  127. # [16:32] * Quits: heycam (cam@66.134.141.179) (Ping timeout)
  128. # [16:40] * Quits: shepazu (schepers@128.30.52.169) (Ping timeout)
  129. # [16:48] <pimpbot> planet: Firefox 3.6 plays HTML5 videos in full screen <http://design-noir.de/log/2009/10/firefox-3-6-plays-html5-videos-full-screen/>
  130. # [17:49] <pimpbot> planet: ARIA role support: how the Windows browsers stack up - Update <http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/?p=474>
  131. # [18:22] * Quits: Dashiva (noone@129.241.137.223) (Quit: Dashiva)
  132. # [18:24] * Joins: Dashiva (noone@129.241.137.223)
  133. # [18:50] * Quits: plh (plh@128.30.52.28) (Quit: always accept cookies)
  134. # [19:29] * Quits: sbublava (sbublava@77.118.32.171) (Quit: sbublava)
  135. # [19:40] * Quits: Lachy (Lachlan@213.236.208.22) (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
  136. # [20:02] * Joins: plh (plh@128.30.52.28)
  137. # [20:38] * Joins: shepazu (schepers@128.30.52.169)
  138. # [20:49] <pimpbot> planet: SVG at Google and in Internet Explorer <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Dcni/~3/jNXR8RPN2p0/svg-at-google-and-in-internet-explorer.html>
  139. # [20:55] * Quits: shepazu (schepers@128.30.52.169) (Quit: shepazu)
  140. # [21:02] * Joins: shepazu (schepers@128.30.52.169)
  141. # [21:21] * Quits: ChrisWilson (cwilso@131.107.0.73) (Ping timeout)
  142. # [21:27] * Joins: ChrisWilson (cwilso@131.107.0.83)
  143. # [21:30] * Quits: deltab (deltab@82.36.30.34) (Ping timeout)
  144. # [21:30] * Quits: shepazu (schepers@128.30.52.169) (Quit: shepazu)
  145. # [21:34] * Joins: deltab (deltab@82.36.30.34)
  146. # [21:39] * Joins: shepazu (schepers@128.30.52.169)
  147. # [21:41] * Quits: deltab (deltab@82.36.30.34) (Ping timeout)
  148. # [21:41] * Joins: deltab (deltab@82.36.30.34)
  149. # [21:51] * Quits: deltab (deltab@82.36.30.34) (Ping timeout)
  150. # [21:54] * Joins: deltab (deltab@82.36.30.34)
  151. # [21:55] * Quits: shepazu (schepers@128.30.52.169) (Client exited)
  152. # [22:02] * Joins: plh_ (plh@128.30.52.28)
  153. # [22:07] * Quits: plh (plh@128.30.52.28) (Ping timeout)
  154. # [22:13] * Quits: deltab (deltab@82.36.30.34) (Ping timeout)
  155. # [22:13] * Joins: deltab (deltab@82.36.30.34)
  156. # [22:31] * Quits: tH (Rob@82.4.89.172) (Ping timeout)
  157. # [22:41] * Quits: ROBOd (robod@89.122.216.38) (Quit: http://www.robodesign.ro )
  158. # [22:51] * Joins: tH (Rob@82.4.89.172)
  159. # [23:09] * Joins: shepazu (schepers@128.30.52.169)
  160. # [23:19] * Quits: plh_ (plh@128.30.52.28) (Quit: always accept cookies)
  161. # [23:22] * Quits: shepazu (schepers@128.30.52.169) (Quit: shepazu)
  162. # [23:26] * Joins: shepazu (schepers@128.30.52.169)
  163. # [23:34] * Quits: aroben (aroben@71.58.77.15) (Connection reset by peer)
  164. # [23:52] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Update microdata based on results of usability study (whatwg r4066) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Oct/0000.html>
  165. # Session Close: Sat Oct 03 00:00:00 2009

The end :)