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  1. # Session Start: Wed Oct 07 00:00:00 2009
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  6. # [00:39] <Hixie> mjs, rubys2: Given past friction involving my responding to comments from the PFWG, especially formal comments, could you let me know how you would like the htmlwg to deal with http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-comments/2009Oct/0002.html and in particular what my role should be?
  7. # [00:39] <pimpbot> Title: HTML5 Comments from the User Agent Accessibility Guidelines Working Group from Jeanne Spellman on 2009-10-06 (public-html-comments@w3.org from October 2009) (at lists.w3.org)
  8. # [00:41] <mjs> Hixie: the right thing to do would be for them to file bugs in bugzilla for each issue
  9. # [00:41] <mjs> Hixie: or get someone to do it for them
  10. # [00:42] <mjs> Hixie: if you want, one of the chairs or team contacts could do that (I'm not on public-html-comments at the moment)
  11. # [00:42] <mjs> Hixie: any of those issues that you think you can dispose of without a bug report, and where the response isn't likely to trigger flaming, feel free to just act on it without the bug being filed if you wish
  12. # [00:43] <Hixie> i hesitate to take any initiative on this without explicit chair guidance
  13. # [00:43] <mjs> I would say the best thing to do is to advise them to ensure each of those issues is filed as a bug
  14. # [00:43] <Hixie> so i'd rather just follow a strict process explicitly laid out by you, sam, or paul
  15. # [00:43] <mjs> note: I'm going to mail out the proposed WG process today or tomorrow
  16. # [00:44] <mjs> if you want, we can wait for that and point to it in suggesting the next action
  17. # [00:45] <Hixie> i'd feel much more comfortable if you or sam or paul could be the first one to respond
  18. # [00:45] <Hixie> i'm in no rush though
  19. # [00:45] <mjs> One of us (or Mike) can do it, but I'd likely wait for the process thingie to be published (main remaining task is for me to turn it into nicely formatted HTML)
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  23. # [00:56] <Hixie> k
  24. # [00:56] <Hixie> i shall wait for further advice then
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  36. # [04:04] * Set by MikeSmith on Thu Jun 18 07:02:08
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  40. # [04:46] <pimpbot> planet: Implementing canplaythrough in SoundManager2 <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1529160/implementing-canplaythrough-in-soundmanager2>
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  47. # [06:58] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7826] New: Should mention that <hgroup> is a valid context for <hx>. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0065.html>
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  51. # [08:16] <hsivonen> looks like "the future of HTML 5" (sic.) is now officially a "hot-button technical issue" http://www.w3.org/News/2009#item179
  52. # [08:16] <pimpbot> Title: Archive of W3C News in 2009 (at www.w3.org)
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  55. # [09:48] <pimpbot> planet: html5 websocket need server? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1530023/html5-websocket-need-server>
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  57. # [09:57] <mjs> would anyone like to help me proofread http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html before I send it to the list?
  58. # [09:57] <pimpbot> Title: HTML Working Group Decision Policy (at dev.w3.org)
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  62. # [10:55] <mjs> Julian: ayt?
  63. # [10:59] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Index of elements. Thanks to Ms2ger for the help with this. (whatwg r4092) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Oct/0023.html>
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  65. # [11:04] <anne> Hixie, is it dynamically generated?
  66. # [11:32] <mjs> I sent the decision policy thing to public-html, feedback on the list is welcome
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  68. # [11:57] <Julian> mjs, now I am
  69. # [11:57] <zcorpan> who should be contacted about trouble to get bugzilla confirmation email?
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  71. # [11:57] <zcorpan> (regarding http://forums.whatwg.org/viewtopic.php?p=5274#5281 )
  72. # [11:57] <pimpbot> Title: WHATWG HTML5 Forums :: View topic - Framesets/Frames (at forums.whatwg.org)
  73. # [11:57] <mjs> Julian: just wanted to see if you wanted to review, but I've seen your recent email now
  74. # [11:57] <mjs> zcorpan: MikeSmith I think
  75. # [11:57] <mjs> zcorpan: or at leas,t he is a good starting point for w3c infrastruture issues
  76. # [11:59] <Julian> mjs, it wasn't a real review, but it looks good so far. It's also good to have a doc to point to, as people keep being confused by the number of mechanisms
  77. # [11:59] <mjs> Julian: yes, I've seen a lot of confusion - and some things the chairs hadn't even clearly decided before
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  85. # [13:49] <pimpbot> planet: View Source Tutorial: Fancy Web Page Using HTML5, CSS, and SVG <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ajaxian/~3/Fb-I2pYYYR4/view-source-tutorial-fancy-web-page-using-html5-css-and-svg>
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  87. # [14:35] <Julian> Philip, would it be possible for you to generate statistics on the formats used in meta/@name=author?
  88. # [14:35] <Julian> Such as, aound of whitespace and commas?
  89. # [14:35] <Julian> s/aound/amount/
  90. # [14:41] <Philip> Julian: I could easily generate a list of all <meta name=author content>s, and you can analyse the content however you want
  91. # [14:42] <Julian> that would be cool as well
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  93. # [14:45] <Philip> Julian: http://philip.html5.org/data/meta-name-author.txt (~8MB) gives the source URI and (optional) name/content/http-equiv attribute values, for all meta elements from pages in http://philip.html5.org/data/dotbot-20090424.txt where the name attribute is ASCII-case-insensitively "author"
  94. # [14:46] <Philip> (Well, not quite source URI since the http:// is stripped off in dotbot's data)
  95. # [14:47] <Julian> thanks a lot
  96. # [14:49] <pimpbot> planet: HTML5 Comments from the User Agent Accessibility Guidelines Working Group from Jeanne Spellman on 2009-10-06 (public-html-comments@w3.org from October 2009) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-comments/2009Oct/0002.html>
  97. # [15:00] <hsivonen> Philip: lots of non-natural-person authors
  98. # [15:03] <Julian> Henri, indeed. I was trying to find out whether this is an alternative to dc.creator (DC-HTML), and it doesn't appear so.
  99. # [15:06] <Philip> http://philip.html5.org/data/meta-name-dc-creator.txt
  100. # [15:07] <Philip> (for comparison)
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  103. # [15:49] <pimpbot> planet: Measure up with the meter tag <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/html5doctor/~3/V2ThydsZeoc/>
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  112. # [18:51] <pimpbot> planet: addEventListener in Canvas tag <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1532739/addeventlistener-in-canvas-tag>
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  120. # [21:52] <pimpbot> planet: When was <input type=search> introduced in Safari <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1533473/when-was-input-typesearch-introduced-in-safari>
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  122. # [21:56] <mjs> good day
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  126. # [22:32] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: fix toc; add 'interface' column to event index table (whatwg r4093) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Oct/0024.html>
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  129. # [22:52] <pimpbot> planet: View Source Tutorial <http://intertwingly.net/blog/2009/10/07/View-Source-Tutorial>
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  133. # [23:23] <plh> I just updated ACTION-29 (HTML document license) with a link to the PSIG message
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