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  13. # [01:22] <pimpbot> MikeSmith: Your Questions Answered #3 <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/html5doctor/~3/5gbZpnxSzbo/> ** Create a diagram HTML5 HTML parsing algorithm <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1605689/create-a-diagram-html5-html-parsing-algorithm> ** <a onlyreplace> <http://www.glazman.org/weblog/dotclear/index.php?post/2009/10/22/a-onlyreplace> ** Microsoft to help move Canvas 2D API out of HTML5 spec? (6 more messages)
  14. # [01:53] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Clarify that type='' on <link> should prevent a style sheet from being applied. (whatwg r4275) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Oct/0188.html> ** hixie: Make a note more precise. (whatwg r4274) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Oct/0187.html>
  15. # [01:53] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8003] line breaks in attributes (especially title) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0603.html>
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  18. # [02:23] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Tentatively drop HTMLCollection.tags() (e.g. document.images.tags()). (whatwg r4276) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Oct/0189.html>
  19. # [02:53] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Encourage better error messages from validators for ARIA issues. (whatwg r4279) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Oct/0192.html> ** hixie: Make <dt> optional in <details>. (whatwg r4278) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Oct/0191.html> ** hixie: typo (whatwg r4277) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Oct/0190.html>
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  29. # [05:24] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: more internal notes to explain things (whatwg r4283) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Oct/0196.html> ** hixie: discourage use of HZ-GB-2312; explain why. (whatwg r4282) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Oct/0195.html>
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  31. # [05:47] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: sideshowbarker * r474 /trunk/relaxng/ (embed.rnc microdata.rnc):
  32. # [05:47] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: welcome itemref and itemid to the team; have security personnel escort the subject and item attrs to the exit (b=670)
  33. # [05:47] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: http://bugzilla.validator.nu/show_bug.cgi?id=670
  34. # [05:47] <pimpbot> Title: Bug 670 remove "item" and "subject" attributes; add "itemref" and "itemid" attributes (at bugzilla.validator.nu)
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  38. # [06:53] <pimpbot> planet: Trying a 1px text-shadow on my http://diveintohtml5.org/ headers for that slightly blurry look because I'm JUST THAT ANAL. <http://twitter.com/diveintomark/statuses/5088809177>
  39. # [07:16] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: sideshowbarker * r475 /trunk/non-schema/java/src/org/whattf/checker/schematronequiv/Assertions.java:
  40. # [07:16] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: updated Assertions.java to emit "Use FOO instead." suggestions appended to error messages for obsolete elements (b=672)
  41. # [07:16] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: http://bugzilla.validator.nu/show_bug.cgi?id=672
  42. # [07:16] <pimpbot> Title: Bug 672 append "Use FOO instead." suggestions to error messages for obsolete elements (at bugzilla.validator.nu)
  43. # [07:25] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Change for <form> is parsed in <table>. (whatwg r4288) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Oct/0197.html>
  44. # [07:25] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7991] "This specification ... include ... a full duplex client-server communication channel" - I assume that refers to Web Sockets, which is no longer included in this spec <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0606.html> ** "[Bug 7978] Form foster parenting introduces extra space to layout" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0605.html>
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  47. # [07:55] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: updated assertions.sch to add suggestions to obsolete-element error messages (b=672)
  48. # [07:55] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: http://bugzilla.validator.nu/show_bug.cgi?id=672
  49. # [07:55] <pimpbot> Title: Bug 672 append "Use FOO instead." suggestions to error messages for obsolete elements (at bugzilla.validator.nu)
  50. # [07:55] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Mention that unquoted attributes can't contain spaces. (whatwg r4292) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Oct/0200.html> ** hixie: Update the structure of this specification section to match recent edits again. (whatwg r4291) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Oct/0199.html> ** hixie: Change the 'reset the insertion mode appropriately' algorithm to handle tables in foreign content
  51. # [07:55] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 7995] "The attribute value can be left unquoted if it doesn't contain any of " ' ` = < or >." - should also mention space characters" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0613.html> ** [Bug 7994] afdasfasdf <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0611.html> ** "[Bug 7993] "areas that are out of scope" - dead link to deleted section #no" (2 messages in
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  54. # [08:25] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Correct the parsing rules for integers. (whatwg r4297) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Oct/0205.html> ** hixie: Add a comment about how the + is ignored. (whatwg r4296) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Oct/0204.html> ** hixie: Clarify that the '+xml' thing only applies to subtypes, not parameters. (whatwg r4293) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Oc
  55. # [08:25] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 8008] The plus-sign case fails to say "If position is past the end of input, return an error" after it advances position, and so the next character used in step 8 may be undefined" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0626.html> ** [Bug 8007] The step that skips "+" does not say '(The "+" is ignored, but it is not conforming.)', whereas the rules for signed integers do say that (and it
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  59. # [08:55] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Make the 'best representation of a floating point number' stuff actually make a modicum of sense. (whatwg r4299) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Oct/0207.html> ** hixie: Make a bunch of parsing terminology more consistent. (whatwg r4298) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Oct/0206.html>
  60. # [08:55] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 8010] A valid floating point number was defined as a string, and I'd assume valid ones are a subset of all floating point numbers, so this is the best representation of a string. Applying ToString to a string isn't very interesting. It needs to be clear that it" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0630.html> ** "[Bug 8009] "Add the value of the current character" - is the 'current cha
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  67. # [09:25] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Fix an error in the way <meter> and <progress> handle '0.' in the input. (whatwg r4302) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Oct/0210.html> ** hixie: Simplify the algorithms for parsing signed and unsigned integers to use subalgorithms that have since been defined. (whatwg r4301) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Oct/0209.html> ** hixie: Handle the way ToString is not fully defined
  68. # [09:25] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 8013] "string is guaranteed to be a valid floating point number" - no it's not - it could be "0." which is not valid" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0636.html> ** "[Bug 8012] This says "Collect a sequence of characters ... interpret the resulting sequence as a base-ten integer", whereas the signed and unsigned integers had a whole five-step loop to do precisely the same thing. Th
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  71. # [09:55] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Changed the more-or-less meaningless 'examined' to 'collected'. (whatwg r4303) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Oct/0211.html>
  72. # [09:55] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 8000] ARIA roles added to the a element should be conforming in HTML5" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0642.html> ** [Bug 8016] anything <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0640.html> ** [Bug 8015] "skip all White_Space characters" - should xref to "skip White_Space characters" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009O
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  78. # [10:25] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7918] prefetching: allow site to deny <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0643.html>
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  81. # [10:56] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Refer to these encodings by their IANA names only to avoid confusing them with character sets. (whatwg r4304) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Oct/0212.html>
  82. # [10:56] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8003] line breaks in attributes (especially title) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0647.html> ** [Bug 8015] "skip all White_Space characters" - should xref to "skip White_Space characters" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0646.html> ** "[Bug 7918] prefetching: allow site to deny" (3 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2
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  87. # [11:54] <pimpbot> planet: HTML5 Local Storage of audio element source - is it possible? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1612116/html5-local-storage-of-audio-element-source-is-it-possible>
  88. # [11:56] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8021] New: The step with dividing by 10^{length} is phrased very differently to the fraction loop for parsing floating point numbers, but seems to be achieving the same result. They should be phrased the same, to make it clear they're computing the same thing. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0651.html> ** [Bug 8020] New: "return value as an integer" - that number needs to be categorised as either a perce
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  90. # [12:26] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8023] New: "If day is not a number in the range 1 ≤ month ≤ maxday, then fail." - s/month/day/ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0653.html> ** [Bug 8022] New: "ISO8601 libraries might not parse dates and times exactly the same manner" - should be "*in* exactly the same manner" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0652.html>
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  95. # [12:56] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8027] New: Does the time-zone offset also consist of a sign? If so, it should be listed in the introduction. If not, the 'valid ...' definition can't say +/- represents the offset's sign. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0657.html> ** [Bug 8026] New: Given a datetime ...T00:00Z, is the best representation ...T00:00-00:00 or ...T00:00+00:00? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009
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  98. # [13:56] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Stability update (whatwg r4305) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Oct/0213.html>
  99. # [13:56] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8028] New: If the first character is not Z or + or -, the subalgorithm returns undefined values. It should explicitly fail and return nothing. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0659.html> ** [Bug 8003] line breaks in attributes (especially title) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0658.html>
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  102. # [14:26] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8029] New: From RCDATA state, & goes to char ref in data, which then goes to data state. Should go back to RCDATA state. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0660.html>
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  109. # [17:57] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7539] Since @summary is an official part of the table element, it is no longer obsolete. Suffienct warning language exists in it's definition that this entry should be removed <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0665.html>
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  113. # [18:27] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 5823] Scope allowable on a td <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0679.html> ** [Bug 7806] atom ID element generation for feed entries <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0678.html> ** [Bug 7404] "but only if the element is being rendered" needs to take into account <canvas> descendants if we're making them focusable <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bu
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  126. # [21:28] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8033] New: Note in the prose that some exceptions aren't actually defined in [DOMCORE] yet <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0682.html>
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  132. # [22:28] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8034] New: It appears that there is no way to draw more than one line of text per call to fillText/strokeText, so what is the point of discarding any line-height value set in the font attribute? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0683.html>
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