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  1. # Session Start: Thu Oct 29 00:00:00 2009
  2. # Session Ident: #html-wg
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  7. # [00:31] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8121] New: what does this do? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0939.html>
  8. # [00:33] <Dashiva> Heh
  9. # [00:57] <pimpbot> planet: Re: What does HTML 5 Really Mean For Us? <http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/9yr4f/what_does_html_5_really_mean_for_us/c0f275g> ** Re: What does HTML 5 Really Mean For Us? <http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/9yr4f/what_does_html_5_really_mean_for_us/c0f272k> ** Re: What does HTML 5 Really Mean For Us? <http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/9yr4f/what_does_html_5_really_mean_for_us/c0f26zj>
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  17. # [02:57] <pimpbot> planet: Re: What does HTML 5 Really Mean For Us? <http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/9yr4f/what_does_html_5_really_mean_for_us/c0f2ev9> ** Re: What does HTML 5 Really Mean For Us? <http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/9yr4f/what_does_html_5_really_mean_for_us/c0f2euq> ** Re: What does HTML 5 Really Mean For Us? <http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/9yr4f/what_does_html_5_really_mean_for_us/c0f2eoo>
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  21. # [03:24] <MikeSmith> issue: Should meta/@content allow a list of languages instead of just a single language?
  22. # [03:24] * trackbot noticed an ISSUE. Trying to create it.
  23. # [03:24] <trackbot> Created ISSUE-88 - Should meta/@content allow a list of languages instead of just a single language? ; please complete additional details at http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/88/edit .
  24. # [03:25] <MikeSmith> issue-88: escalated from http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8088 (Leif Halvard Silli)
  25. # [03:25] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-88.
  26. # [03:25] <trackbot> ISSUE-88 Should meta/@content allow a list of languages instead of just a single language? notes added
  27. # [03:25] <pimpbot> 8088: xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no, P2, REOPENED, Change back the meaning of <meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="FOO, BAR">
  28. # [03:31] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8088] Change back the meaning of <meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="FOO, BAR"> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0940.html>
  29. # [03:32] <MikeSmith> action-157?
  30. # [03:32] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-157
  31. # [03:32] <trackbot> ACTION-157 -- Michael(tm) Smith to request two smaller rooms (big enough for 10-12 people) for breakout sessions -- due 2009-10-29 -- OPEN
  32. # [03:32] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/157
  33. # [03:32] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-157 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  34. # [03:33] <MikeSmith> action: I got this request in too late, so we will not have any additional rooms booked. We will need to deal with it ad-hoc
  35. # [03:33] * trackbot noticed an ACTION. Trying to create it.
  36. # [03:33] <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - I
  37. # [03:33] * RRSAgent records action 4
  38. # [03:33] <MikeSmith> action-157: I got this request in too late, so we will not have any additional rooms booked. We will need to deal with it ad-hoc
  39. # [03:33] * trackbot attempting to add comment notes to ACTION-157.
  40. # [03:33] <trackbot> ACTION-157 Request two smaller rooms (big enough for 10-12 people) for breakout sessions notes added
  41. # [03:57] <pimpbot> planet: Re: What does HTML 5 Really Mean For Us? <http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/9yr4f/what_does_html_5_really_mean_for_us/c0f2gw9> ** Re: What does HTML 5 Really Mean For Us? <http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/9yr4f/what_does_html_5_really_mean_for_us/c0f2gub>
  42. # [04:01] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8122] New: This is a test <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0941.html>
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  48. # [04:32] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8088] Change back the meaning of <meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="FOO, BAR"> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0942.html>
  49. # [04:58] <pimpbot> planet: Re: What does HTML 5 Really Mean For Us? <http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/9yr4f/what_does_html_5_really_mean_for_us/c0f2iiz> ** Re: What does HTML 5 Really Mean For Us? <http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/9yr4f/what_does_html_5_really_mean_for_us/c0f2idn>
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  52. # [06:02] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8107] I dont think that itemid should be prohibited if there is no itemtype. Several of the use cases would work fine with an id but no type <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0943.html>
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  86. # [11:09] <Dashiva> http://gizmodo.com/5381696/regrettable-tech-inventions//gallery/1
  87. # [11:09] <pimpbot> Title: Regrettable Tech Inventions (at gizmodo.com)
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  101. # [13:36] <plh> oops
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  103. # [14:04] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8088] Change back the meaning of <meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="FOO, BAR"> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0944.html>
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  112. # [16:35] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 5758] insufficient accessibility fallback for <audio> or <video> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0947.html>
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  115. # [16:53] <cardona507> good morning - does irc.w3.org have a help channel?
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  123. # [17:03] * rubys1 Zakim, who is on the call?
  124. # [17:03] * Zakim sorry, rubys1, I don't know what conference this is
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  127. # [17:03] * Zakim ... trackbot, Philip
  128. # [17:03] * plh zakim, call plh-work
  129. # [17:03] * Zakim sorry, plh, I don't know what conference this is
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  131. # [17:04] <mjs> hi everyone
  132. # [17:04] <richardschwerdtfe> hi maciej
  133. # [17:04] * paulc good morning
  134. # [17:04] <cardona507> hello
  135. # [17:04] <rubys1> trackbot, start meeting
  136. # [17:04] * trackbot is starting a teleconference
  137. # [17:04] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  138. # [17:04] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
  139. # [17:04] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be HTML
  140. # [17:04] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  141. # [17:04] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  142. # [17:04] <trackbot> Date: 29 October 2009
  143. # [17:04] <Zakim> -Sam
  144. # [17:05] <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
  145. # [17:05] <Zakim> +Matt
  146. # [17:05] * MichaelC zakim, call cooper-mit
  147. # [17:05] * Zakim ok, MichaelC; the call is being made
  148. # [17:05] <Zakim> +Cooper
  149. # [17:05] <Zakim> +Sam
  150. # [17:05] * MichaelC zakim, I am cooper
  151. # [17:05] * Zakim ok, MichaelC, I now associate you with Cooper
  152. # [17:05] * MichaelC zakim, mute me
  153. # [17:05] * Zakim Cooper should now be muted
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  155. # [17:05] <cardona507> zakim, mute me
  156. # [17:05] <Zakim> cardona507 should now be muted
  157. # [17:06] <rubys1> zakim, pick a scribe
  158. # [17:06] <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Matt
  159. # [17:06] <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike-Mobile
  160. # [17:06] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
  161. # [17:06] <Zakim> +Mike
  162. # [17:06] <rubys1> zakim, pick a scribe
  163. # [17:06] <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Cooper (muted)
  164. # [17:06] <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2009OctDec/0008.html
  165. # [17:06] * plh zakim, call plh-work
  166. # [17:06] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
  167. # [17:06] <pimpbot> Title: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-10-29: issues, action items, calls for consensus/proposals, task forces, F2F... from Sam Ruby on 2009-10-28 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from October to December 2009) (at lists.w3.org)
  168. # [17:06] <Zakim> +Plh
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  170. # [17:06] * MichaelC ok, will do my best
  171. # [17:06] <MichaelC> scribe: MichaelC
  172. # [17:06] * plh zakim, mute me
  173. # [17:06] * Zakim Plh should now be muted
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  175. # [17:07] * MichaelC agenda?
  176. # [17:07] * Zakim sees nothing on the agenda
  177. # [17:07] <Dzung_Tran> Present+ Dzung_Tran
  178. # [17:07] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2009OctDec/0008.html
  179. # [17:07] <pimpbot> Title: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2009-10-29: issues, action items, calls for consensus/proposals, task forces, F2F... from Sam Ruby on 2009-10-28 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from October to December 2009) (at lists.w3.org)
  180. # [17:07] <paulc> Topic: ISSUE-35 (aria-processing): ACTION-138 on Steve Faulkner:
  181. # [17:07] <paulc> Update will be available at TPAC F2F.
  182. # [17:07] <Zakim> +Laura.a
  183. # [17:08] <MichaelC> topic: ISSUE-35 (aria-processing)
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  185. # [17:08] <paulc> Topic: ISSUE-56 (urls-webarch) ACTION-137 on Larry Masinter:
  186. # [17:08] <MichaelC> cynthia: Working on in ARIA UAI TF
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  188. # [17:08] <paulc> Larry is trying to set up a meeting next week.
  189. # [17:08] <MichaelC> plan to work more at TPAC next week
  190. # [17:09] <MichaelC> topic: ISSUE-56 (urls-webarch)
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  192. # [17:09] <Zakim> -Laura_Carlson
  193. # [17:09] <Zakim> + +1.206.850.aaaa
  194. # [17:09] <paulc> Possible meeting 12-2pm on Thu but some have expressed concerns about conflicts with WG meeting
  195. # [17:10] <Zakim> +Laura_Carlson
  196. # [17:10] <Eliot_Graff> Zakim, +1.206.850.aaaa is me
  197. # [17:10] <Zakim> +Eliot_Graff; got it
  198. # [17:10] <paulc> Maybe Larry's objectives are wider than just the HTML WG issues.
  199. # [17:10] <MichaelC> mike(tm): Larry has a document tracking issues, tentative meeting next week
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  201. # [17:11] <MichaelC> paul: joint meeting with TAG "after lunch" Thursday might overlap (uncertain which lunch slot)
  202. # [17:12] <Zakim> +Bryan_Sullivan
  203. # [17:12] <paulc> Paul wants to know "minimum required to declare victory" in this area.
  204. # [17:13] <MikeSmith> issue-56: updated IRIbis draft published: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-duerst-iri-bis-07
  205. # [17:13] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-56.
  206. # [17:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-56 Bring "URLs" section/definition and IRI specification in alignment. notes added
  207. # [17:13] <pimpbot> Title: draft-duerst-iri-bis-07 - Internationalized Resource Identifiers (IRIs) (at tools.ietf.org)
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  209. # [17:13] <MichaelC> topic: ISSUE-55 (head-profile)
  210. # [17:13] <MichaelC> Progress, extending to next week
  211. # [17:14] <MichaelC> topic: ISSUE-73 (predefined-voc): ACTION-123
  212. # [17:14] <MichaelC> closing action
  213. # [17:14] <MichaelC> issue CFC to close issue
  214. # [17:14] <Laura> Rich is working on a test patch that exposes the shadow DOM to the accessibility API and supports aria-activedescendant on canvas.
  215. # [17:14] <Laura> canvas accessibility progress report:
  216. # [17:14] <Laura> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2009OctDec/0019.html
  217. # [17:14] <pimpbot> Title: canvas accessibility progress from Richard Schwerdtfeger on 2009-10-28 (public-canvas-api@w3.org from October to December 2009) (at lists.w3.org)
  218. # [17:14] <MichaelC> topic: ISSUE-74 (canvas-accessibility): ACTION-133
  219. # [17:15] <MichaelC> ^
  220. # [17:15] <paulc> Has someone volunteered to lead a F2F discussion on this topic?
  221. # [17:15] <MichaelC> cynthia: Might be prepared to do so
  222. # [17:16] <paulc> ACTION-127 in progress
  223. # [17:16] <MichaelC> topic: ACTION-127 on Paul Cotton: establish process for "official WG response" to other WG's RFC on LC drafts
  224. # [17:16] <MichaelC> paul: in progress, still need to collect list of LCs
  225. # [17:17] <paulc> finish the enueration of LC targets and discuss at TPAC
  226. # [17:17] <paulc> MathML 3.0 review will be done by Nov 5/6
  227. # [17:17] <MichaelC> topic: ACTION-155 on Maciej: Send CFC for review of decision policy
  228. # [17:17] <MichaelC> close action
  229. # [17:18] <MichaelC> topic: ACTION-156 on Sam Ruby: Send request for change proposals on outstanding open issues
  230. # [17:18] <MichaelC> closing, though process under ongoing review
  231. # [17:18] <MichaelC> topic: ISSUE-85 ARIA roles added to the a element should be conforming in HTML5
  232. # [17:18] <Zakim> +Rich
  233. # [17:18] <MichaelC> cynthia: Steve might be planning to do change proposal
  234. # [17:18] <MichaelC> not positive
  235. # [17:19] <richardschwerdtfe> cynthia, i just got on the call
  236. # [17:19] <MichaelC> sam: though issue process not quite finalized, trying to follow it
  237. # [17:19] <MichaelC> so need change proposal within a month
  238. # [17:19] <Laura> Maciej was going to make an HTML5 Change Proposal Template in Wiki. Has one been created?
  239. # [17:19] <Laura> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Oct/0688.html
  240. # [17:19] <pimpbot> Title: Re: Administrative requests related to the decision policy from Michael(tm) Smith on 2009-10-21 (public-html@w3.org from October 2009) (at lists.w3.org)
  241. # [17:21] <MichaelC> cynthia: change proposals need to indicate version they react to, is date on editors draft sufficient?
  242. # [17:21] <MichaelC> sam: generally
  243. # [17:21] <MichaelC> mike(tm): There is a CVS version ID in the draft, best to use that
  244. # [17:21] <MichaelC> at top of document
  245. # [17:21] <MichaelC> topic: ISSUE-86 HTML5 relaxes Atom requirement on atom:id stability
  246. # [17:22] <MichaelC> sam: will check with Julian
  247. # [17:22] <MichaelC> ISSUE-87 Should spec require whitespace normalization of attribute values, particularly in title attribute?
  248. # [17:22] <MichaelC> mike(tm): Opened on behalf of David C in MathML
  249. # [17:23] <MichaelC> seems like a "after the horses have left the barn" issue
  250. # [17:23] <MichaelC> browsers implemented a particular way
  251. # [17:23] <MichaelC> will follow up with David to ask him to write a change proposal
  252. # [17:23] <MichaelC> topic: ISSUE-4 (html-versioning)
  253. # [17:24] <MichaelC> paul: TAG wanted to discuss this
  254. # [17:24] <MichaelC> sam: This is a very old issue, without a change proposal should close without prejudice
  255. # [17:24] <MichaelC> paul: Maybe alert TAG and ask them to submit change proposal
  256. # [17:24] <MichaelC> sam: They're not of one mind, and we haven't received concrete proposal
  257. # [17:25] <MichaelC> should attach issue to a person, not the group
  258. # [17:25] <MichaelC> Larry not planning to submit change proposal afaik
  259. # [17:25] <MichaelC> maciej: suggest send them a request and start the 1-month clock
  260. # [17:25] <MichaelC> topic: ISSUE-7 (video-codecs)
  261. # [17:26] <MichaelC> paul: David Singer has an action
  262. # [17:27] <MichaelC> maciej: he's working on this, but not known planning a change proposal
  263. # [17:27] <MichaelC> sam: Will ask him for one and start the clock
  264. # [17:27] <MichaelC> topic: ISSUE 14 (aria-role)
  265. # [17:27] <MichaelC> sam: Incorporated into draft, ready to close
  266. # [17:27] <MichaelC> topic: ISSUE-30 (longdesc)
  267. # [17:27] <MichaelC> topic: ISSUE-63 (origin-req-scope)
  268. # [17:28] <MichaelC> topic: ISSUE-74 (Microdata/RDFa)
  269. # [17:28] <MichaelC> sam: Manu planning to write counter proposal to his own proposal
  270. # [17:29] <MichaelC> Best if someone who prefers current state would submit a proposal
  271. # [17:29] <MichaelC> maciej: Suggest Ian submit the counter proposal
  272. # [17:30] <MichaelC> topic: Testing Task Force
  273. # [17:31] <MichaelC> ??: Coming together, organizing bi-weekly calls to begin after TPAC, and will have opportunity to meet up at TPAC
  274. # [17:31] <MichaelC> would like submission of test suites (good or bad)
  275. # [17:31] <MikeSmith> s/??/KrisK/
  276. # [17:31] <richardschwerdtfe> agenda?
  277. # [17:31] * Zakim sees nothing on the agenda
  278. # [17:31] <paulc> Will there be a testing break out session at TPAC F2F?
  279. # [17:31] * rubys http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2009OctDec/0008.html
  280. # [17:32] <paulc> KrisK: Yes lets try to get together
  281. # [17:32] <MichaelC> topic: HTML Accessibility Task Force
  282. # [17:32] <MichaelC> sam: Not quite started
  283. # [17:33] <MichaelC> mechanics in place, haven't named HTML facilitator
  284. # [17:33] <MichaelC> hopefully can make progess at TPAC
  285. # [17:33] * plh zakim, unmute me
  286. # [17:33] * Zakim Plh should no longer be muted
  287. # [17:33] <paulc> PF and HTML WG chairs are meeting on Monday to discuss this.
  288. # [17:34] <Laura> The accessbility task force mailing list has been set up and we have done some inital work:
  289. # [17:34] <Laura> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2009Oct/0004.html
  290. # [17:34] <pimpbot> Title: Is the accessibility task force official now? from Laura Carlson on 2009-10-28 (public-html-a11y@w3.org from October 2009) (at lists.w3.org)
  291. # [17:34] <paulc> Do we know exactly what issues the TF is going to do?
  292. # [17:34] <MichaelC> cynthia: There is work ready for as soon as it gets going
  293. # [17:34] <MichaelC> Don't have a formal issues list but PF has been working on issues
  294. # [17:35] <paulc> Bugzilla items are being tags with "a11y"
  295. # [17:35] <MichaelC> questions about parts of spec; aria mapping; summary; longdesc; etc.
  296. # [17:35] <MichaelC> rich: canvas too
  297. # [17:35] <MikeSmith> note that Laura recently added a11y keyword to a number of bugzilla bugs
  298. # [17:35] <Laura> http://esw.w3.org/topic/HTML/AccessibilityTrackerIssues
  299. # [17:35] <pimpbot> Title: HTML/AccessibilityTrackerIssues - ESW Wiki (at esw.w3.org)
  300. # [17:35] <Laura> http://esw.w3.org/topic/PF/XTech/HTML5
  301. # [17:35] <pimpbot> Title: PF/XTech/HTML5 - ESW Wiki (at esw.w3.org)
  302. # [17:35] <Laura> HTML5 Issue Collection and Requirements Drafting
  303. # [17:36] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Oct/0747.html
  304. # [17:36] <pimpbot> Title: Canvas 2D API specification update from Eliot Graff on 2009-10-21 (public-html@w3.org from October 2009) (at lists.w3.org)
  305. # [17:36] <adrianba> http://dev.w3.org/html5/canvas-api/canvas-2d-api.html
  306. # [17:36] <pimpbot> Title: The Canvas 2D API 1.0 Specification (at dev.w3.org)
  307. # [17:37] <MichaelC> Adrian: have been working on canvas spec
  308. # [17:37] <MichaelC> need to start comparison with HTML version
  309. # [17:37] <MichaelC> also accessibility work
  310. # [17:37] <MichaelC> sam: Suggest opening a bug on canvas
  311. # [17:37] <MichaelC> to start tracking
  312. # [17:37] <MichaelC> and follow with change proposal
  313. # [17:37] <MichaelC> adrian: ok
  314. # [17:38] <MichaelC> ACTION-153 on Maciej Stachowiak: Outline unconference format for F2F meeting
  315. # [17:38] <MichaelC> sam: outline sent
  316. # [17:38] <MichaelC> not much response; presuming consent
  317. # [17:39] <MichaelC> topic: ACTION-157 on Michael(tm) Smith: Request two smaller rooms (big enough for 10-12 people) for breakout sessions
  318. # [17:39] <MichaelC> mike(tm): We don't have additional rooms booked
  319. # [17:39] <MichaelC> will see if there are free rooms next week
  320. # [17:40] <MichaelC> but need to assume we don't have them unless that changes
  321. # [17:40] <MichaelC> can close action
  322. # [17:40] <MichaelC> We're in different rooms Thur and Fri
  323. # [17:40] <MichaelC> but both large
  324. # [17:40] <MichaelC> might be possible to have separate concurrent discussions within the room
  325. # [17:41] <MichaelC> topic: scribe for next meeting
  326. # [17:42] <MichaelC> paul: Next week is FtF
  327. # [17:42] <MichaelC> should get as many as possible to participate in scribing
  328. # [17:43] <MichaelC> re next telecon, take a week off after TPAC?
  329. # [17:43] <MichaelC> Make sure we clarify that next week
  330. # [17:43] <MichaelC> mike(tm): Some people will have conflict with IETF meeting
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  332. # [17:43] <Zakim> -Matt
  333. # [17:43] <Zakim> -Rich
  334. # [17:43] <Zakim> -Bryan_Sullivan
  335. # [17:43] <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
  336. # [17:43] <cardona507> thanks
  337. # [17:43] <Zakim> -Laura.a
  338. # [17:43] <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
  339. # [17:43] <Zakim> -Cooper
  340. # [17:43] <Zakim> -Sam
  341. # [17:43] <Zakim> -Eliot_Graff
  342. # [17:43] <Zakim> -cardona507
  343. # [17:44] <Zakim> -Mike
  344. # [17:44] <Zakim> -Plh
  345. # [17:44] <rubys> thanks MichaelC!
  346. # [17:44] <MichaelC> scribeOptions: -final
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  349. # [17:44] <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
  350. # [17:44] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/10/29-html-wg-minutes.html MichaelC
  351. # [17:44] * MichaelC np
  352. # [17:44] <Zakim> -Laura_Carlson
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  356. # [17:45] <MichaelC> chair: Sam_Ruby
  357. # [17:45] <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
  358. # [17:45] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/10/29-html-wg-minutes.html MichaelC
  359. # [17:45] <pimpbot> Title: HTML Weekly Teleconference -- 29 Oct 2009 (at www.w3.org)
  360. # [17:45] <MichaelC> zakim, list attendees
  361. # [17:45] <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been [Microsoft], cardona507, Laura_Carlson, Sam, Cynthia_Shelly, Matt, Cooper, Mike, Plh, Laura, Eliot_Graff, Bryan_Sullivan, Rich
  362. # [17:45] <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
  363. # [17:45] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2009/10/29-html-wg-minutes.html MichaelC
  364. # [17:45] <pimpbot> Title: HTML Weekly Teleconference -- 29 Oct 2009 (at www.w3.org)
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  367. # [17:49] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  368. # [17:49] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  369. # [17:49] <Zakim> Attendees were [Microsoft], cardona507, Laura_Carlson, Sam, Cynthia_Shelly, Matt, Cooper, Mike, Plh, Laura, Eliot_Graff, Bryan_Sullivan, Rich
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  386. # [20:36] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8122] This is a test <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Oct/0949.html>
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