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  11. # [00:42] <pimpbot> planet: How To Support Internet Explorer and Still Be Cutting Edge - Smashing Magazine <http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/12/01/how-to-support-internet-explorer-and-still-be-cutting-edge/>
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  25. # [03:20] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: ack for last checkin (whatwg r4392) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Dec/0004.html>
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  27. # [03:43] <pimpbot> planet: No shocker: Google prefers HTML5 to Gears | Webware - CNET <http://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10407061-2.html> ** persistent.info: Most visible change <http://blog.persistent.info/2009/12/most-visible-change.html>
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  31. # [03:55] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: sideshowbarker * r504 /trunk/relaxng/web-forms.rnc: allow ARIA attributes on the <form> element (b=688, thx=Jeremy.Keith)
  32. # [03:55] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: sideshowbarker * r505 /trunk/relaxng/ (aria.rnc meta.rnc common.rnc structural.rnc): (log message trimmed)
  33. # [03:55] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: bring v.nu into closer alignment with current spec for ARIA integration in HTML5
  34. # [03:55] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: - allow ARIA attributes on <section> (but we don't yet properly
  35. # [03:55] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: enforce any constraints on the value of section/@role)
  36. # [03:55] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: - allow article/@role=application
  37. # [03:55] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: - allow aside/@role=search and aside/@role=note
  38. # [03:55] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: - allow body/@role=document
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  55. # [05:34] <MikeSmith> http://wiki.commonjs.org/wiki/Binary/D
  56. # [05:34] <pimpbot> Title: Binary/D - CommonJS Spec Wiki (at wiki.commonjs.org)
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  58. # [05:43] <pimpbot> planet: Mozilla Platform Meeting Minutes: 2009-12-01 <http://blog.mozilla.com/meeting-notes/archives/274>
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  63. # [06:16] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: sideshowbarker * r506 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
  64. # [06:16] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: corrected oversight that caused spurious error for valid input/@list=foo to datalist/@id=foo instances (b=677, thx=zcorpan)
  65. # [06:16] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: http://bugzilla.validator.nu/show_bug.cgi?id=677
  66. # [06:16] <pimpbot> Title: Bug 677 list=foo doesn't work (at bugzilla.validator.nu)
  67. # [06:21] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8414] New: Shouldn't the example pattern be "^[0-9][A-Z]{3}$"? The current example would succeed with any string containing a part number, and not just a string that is one. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Dec/0032.html>
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  69. # [07:05] <MikeSmith> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-ig-jp/2009Dec/0008.html
  70. # [07:05] <pimpbot> Title: ご挨拶/グループで議論したいトピックについて(提案) from Masataka Yakura on 2009-12-02 (public-html-ig-jp@w3.org from December 2009) (at lists.w3.org)
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  73. # [08:39] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: sideshowbarker * r507 /trunk/non-schema/java/src/org/whattf/checker/ConformingButObsoleteWarner.java:
  74. # [08:39] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: report at "The name attribute is obsoleted" warning for a/@name even if it's value is empty (along with reporting an error for the empty value) (b=685, thx=zcorpan)
  75. # [08:39] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: http://bugzilla.validator.nu/show_bug.cgi?id=685
  76. # [08:39] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: sideshowbarker * r508 /trunk/relaxng/ (warnings.sch assertions.sch): [.sch files] handle script/@language cases consistently with recent java assertions checking changes
  77. # [08:39] <pimpbot> Title: Bug 685 Emit warning for case of a/name with empty value (at bugzilla.validator.nu)
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  84. # [10:22] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8415] New: Nested browsing contexts don't get unloaded currently. I'm guessing that unloading a document should do it for the nested ones too? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Dec/0034.html> ** [Bug 8365] Remove the Web Browsers Section 6 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Dec/0033.html>
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  88. # [10:52] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8417] New: "user agents must yield to whatever script invoked the navigation steps" should also allow tasks to continue, with the rest of the algorithm being async, so that the event loop doesn't block waiting for data. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Dec/0036.html> ** [Bug 8416] New: The "Fragment identifier loop" part of the "update the session history with the new page" algorithm should spin the event loo
  89. # [10:52] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Make sure to say to queue a task for a variety of situations that otherwise would have synchronous or undefined behaviour. Release the storage mutex in a few places that were missed before. (whatwg r4395) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2009Dec/0005.html>
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  93. # [11:45] <pimpbot> planet: Is it possible to use canvas functionality from a worker in FF 3.6 ? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1831811/is-it-possible-to-use-canvas-functionality-from-a-worker-in-ff-3-6>
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  95. # [11:53] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8418] New: Consider coining the term "entry script" instead of the confusing "first script". <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Dec/0037.html>
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  97. # [12:45] <pimpbot> planet: Google Analytics unblocks the Web w/ Async support <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ajaxian/~3/mSBtpenadsY/google-analytics-unblocks-the-web-w-async-support>
  98. # [12:53] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8419] New: Maybe use a different attribute value than "be evil" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Dec/0038.html>
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  110. # [14:45] <pimpbot> planet: Tantek Çelik on Microformats and the Webz <http://standardssuck.org/tantek-celik-on-microformats-and-the-webz>
  111. # [14:53] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8365] Remove the Web Browsers Section 6 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Dec/0039.html>
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  113. # [15:15] <karl> http://24ways.org/2009/breaking-out-the-edges-of-the-browser
  114. # [15:15] <pimpbot> Title: 24 ways: Breaking Out The Edges of The Browser (at 24ways.org)
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  116. # [15:45] <pimpbot> planet: Changeset 51577 – WebKit <http://trac.webkit.org/changeset/51577>
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  122. # [16:19] <anne> Julian, where does it say that text/plain becomes HTML?
  123. # [16:24] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8419] Maybe use a different attribute value than "be evil" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Dec/0040.html>
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  126. # [16:45] <Julian> Anne, my understanding was that 3.3 (text/plain) -> 4 (text or binary) allows this
  127. # [16:45] <Julian> in http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-abarth-mime-sniff-03
  128. # [16:45] <pimpbot> Title: draft-abarth-mime-sniff-03 - Content-Type Processing Model (at tools.ietf.org)
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  131. # [16:49] <anne> I don't see how you go from binary to HTML
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  133. # [16:50] <Julian> so the intent is never to sniff text/html from text/plain? let me check.
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  135. # [16:51] <Julian> I probably misunderstood the definition of "binary data"
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  137. # [17:04] <Julian> so, if I have a BEL or BS character in text/plain, that still might allow sniffing, right?
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  139. # [17:18] <anne> depends on where it is
  140. # [17:19] <anne> also note that not all text/plain content is sniffed
  141. # [17:19] <anne> and that unlabeled resources are not treated as text/plain and can be sniffed as HTML
  142. # [17:20] <anne> i.e. in theory text/plain;charset=UTF-8 should not be sniffed because there's no space between ; and charset
  143. # [17:22] <Julian> right
  144. # [17:22] <Julian> I'm only referring to text/plain (the first in the table in 3.3)
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  156. # [19:24] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8423] New: Shouldn't the datalist element be allowed to contain optgroup elements as well as option elements? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2009Dec/0041.html>
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  167. # [20:47] <pimpbot> 'planet: <div><abbr title="Resource Description Framework in attributes">RDFa</abbr>\n and the <abbr title="Document Object Model">DOM</abbr></div> <\x0311http://edward.oconnor.cx/2009/12/RDFa-and-the-DOM\x0f>'
  168. # [20:49] <Dashiva> pimpbot seems ill
  169. # [20:49] <pimpbot> Dashiva: Huh?
  170. # [21:00] <Philip> It stopped doing colours! Hooray
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  174. # [21:47] <pimpbot> planet: How to do a JavaScript HTML 5 Canvas image "page flip" like you commonly see in Flash? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1835321/how-to-do-a-javascript-html-5-canvas-image-page-flip-like-you-commonly-see-in-f>
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