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  58. # [18:05] <manu1> I'm looking for a really slick Web-based Microdata Markup editor that I saw a couple of weeks ago - anybody know where I can find it?
  59. # [18:06] <manu1> Somebody Twittered about it, but Google/Twitter searches are not coming up with anything useful.
  60. # [18:06] <Philip> Was it a thing where you type in generic microdata markup and get some data output?
  61. # [18:06] <Philip> (rather than being specific to a certain vocabulary)
  62. # [18:07] <manu1> It was specific to certain vocabs - it had a selection box where you could select the vocabulary and then fill in a form.
  63. # [18:07] <manu1> so, you'd select "vCard" and then fill in your address info... and it would spit out Microdata markup.
  64. # [18:07] <manu1> it was the best example of a semantic data editor that I've seen to date and now I can't find it again :)
  65. # [18:08] <Dashiva> Do a SPARQL query for it
  66. # [18:08] <manu1> cute
  67. # [18:08] <manu1> =P
  68. # [18:12] <Philip> manu1: Hmm, I don't quite remember seeing something like that, and can't find any references to it
  69. # [18:12] <Philip> so it seems well hidden :-(
  70. # [18:14] <manu1> that's unfortunate - it was really slick. I'll continue to look for it - any good search services for Twitter that are capable of going back 1-2 months in history?
  71. # [18:15] * Philip knows nothing about Twitter
  72. # [18:17] <Dashiva> I found nothing either, but now I'm wondering what http://microdata.freebase.com/ is all about
  73. # [18:20] <manu1> Freebase maps most of their data to multiple representations - they do it for RDF (and RDFa): http://rdf.freebase.com/ - I wouldn't be surprised if they're working on a Microdata representation as well. (although, this is the first time I've seen that as well)
  74. # [18:21] <manu1> and most (if not all) of that data is sourced from Wikipedia.
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  76. # [18:24] <Dashiva> So it's ... API documentation, sort of then
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  78. # [18:27] <manu1> Freebase provides multiple semantic APIs for extracting facts from Wikipedia.
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  80. # [18:28] <manu1> For example, for facts on LeBron James, you can hit their RDF API here: http://rdf.freebase.com/rdf/en.lebron_james
  81. # [18:29] <manu1> I'd expect http://microdata.freebase.com/microdata/en.lebron_james to contain a HTML5 page marked up using Microdata.
  82. # [18:30] <manu1> and the Microdata->RDF conversion should produce the same triples as http://rdf.freebase.com/rdf/en.lebron_james
  83. # [18:35] <manu1> (and I was wrong about Wikipedia being their only source) - Freebase sources their data from multiple sites.
  84. # [18:36] <Dashiva> Interesting
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  95. # [22:00] <dydz> Consider an element A that specifies the CSS property "visibility: hidden" and registers for some events, say focus events. Suppose we programmatically-generate a focus event for A. Should this be honored? That is, should the onfocus event handler for A be called?
  96. # [22:02] <dydz> I briefly looking through both the HTML 5 and CSS 2.1 specs. but did not find an answer.
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  98. # [22:08] <dydz> In particular, suppose element A an <input onfocus="doSomething()"> within an <iframe style="visibility: hidden"> and we fire a focus event at A. Should the onfocus event handler for A be called?
  99. # [22:08] <dydz> *is an
  100. # [22:20] <webben> dydz: Good question.
  101. # [22:21] <dydz> webben: In Firefox, A's onfocus event handler is not called. But in WebKit, it is called.
  102. # [22:26] <webben> dydz: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#being-rendered doesn't make it obvious to me with that iframe is being rendered or not.
  103. # [22:26] <webben> *whether that
  104. # [22:28] * dydz can't connect to whatwg.org
  105. # [22:30] <dydz> (machine is pingable, but web server is not responding)
  106. # [22:37] <webben> wfm
  107. # [22:37] <webben> oops maybe not
  108. # [22:37] <webben> nope it's down
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