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  106. # [17:31] <MikeSmith> action-170?
  107. # [17:31] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-170
  108. # [17:31] <trackbot> ACTION-170 -- Michael(tm) Smith to update A11Y timeline for tracker related issues -- due 2010-01-28 -- OPEN
  109. # [17:31] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/170
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  113. # [18:00] <paulc> what conference is this?
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  115. # [18:00] <paulc> zakim, what conference is this?
  116. # [18:01] <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jan/1053.html
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  119. # [18:01] <mattmay> Regrets. I'm in another meeting.
  120. # [18:02] <paulc> q+
  121. # [18:03] <paulc> queue?
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  123. # [18:03] * MichaelC zakim, call cooper-mit
  124. # [18:03] <MikeSmith> Zakim, code?
  125. # [18:03] <rubys1> rrsagent, start meeting
  126. # [18:04] <MikeSmith> trackbot, start meeting
  127. # [18:04] * trackbot is starting a teleconference
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  129. # [18:04] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/01/21-html-wg-irc
  130. # [18:04] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  131. # [18:04] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  133. # [18:04] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be HTML
  134. # [18:04] <Zakim> HTML matches both HTML_WG()12:00PM and WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM
  135. # [18:04] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  136. # [18:04] <trackbot> Date: 21 January 2010
  137. # [18:04] <MikeSmith> Zakim, code?
  138. # [18:04] <Zakim> sorry, MikeSmith, I don't know what conference this is
  139. # [18:04] <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jan/1053.html
  140. # [18:04] * MichaelC zakim, call cooper-mit
  141. # [18:04] * Zakim sorry, MichaelC, I don't know what conference this is
  142. # [18:04] <rubys1> zakim, this will be html_wg
  143. # [18:04] <Zakim> ok, rubys1, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  144. # [18:04] <MikeSmith> Zakim, code?
  145. # [18:04] <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), MikeSmith
  146. # [18:04] <MichaelC> zakim, this is html_WG
  147. # [18:04] <Zakim> MichaelC, this was already HTML_WG()12:00PM
  148. # [18:04] <Zakim> ok, MichaelC; that matches HTML_WG()12:00PM
  149. # [18:04] * MichaelC zakim, call cooper-mit
  150. # [18:04] * Zakim ok, MichaelC; the call is being made
  151. # [18:04] <Zakim> +Cooper
  152. # [18:04] <Julian> Zakim, who's on the phone?
  153. # [18:04] <Zakim> On the phone I see Cynthia_Shelly, Radhika_Roy, +1.757.872.aaaa, [Microsoft], [Microsoft.a], Sam, ??P9, Cooper (muted)
  154. # [18:04] <Zakim> -??P9
  155. # [18:04] <Eliot_Graff> Zakim, Microsoft.a is me
  156. # [18:05] <Zakim> +Eliot_Graff; got it
  157. # [18:05] <paulc> [Microsoft] is me
  158. # [18:05] <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
  159. # [18:05] <Zakim> +Janina_Sajka
  160. # [18:05] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
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  162. # [18:05] <Zakim> +Mike
  163. # [18:05] <Zakim> + +1.613.998.aabb
  164. # [18:05] <paulc> [Microsoft] is paulc
  165. # [18:05] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
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  167. # [18:06] <paulc> zakim, pick a scribe
  168. # [18:06] <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Mike
  169. # [18:06] <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft.a] has adrianba,franko
  170. # [18:06] <Zakim> +adrianba, franko; got it
  171. # [18:06] <Zakim> +kliehm
  172. # [18:06] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
  173. # [18:06] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  174. # [18:06] <MikeSmith> scribe: MikeSmith
  175. # [18:06] * kliehm zakim, mute me
  176. # [18:06] * Zakim kliehm should now be muted
  177. # [18:06] <paulc> agenda; http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jan/1053.html
  178. # [18:07] <MikeSmith> Topic: Due and overdue action items
  179. # [18:08] <Zakim> +Radhika_Roy.a
  180. # [18:08] <MikeSmith> Zakim, aaaa is Scott and others from AT&T
  181. # [18:08] <Zakim> I don't understand 'aaaa is Scott and others from AT&T', MikeSmith
  182. # [18:08] <MikeSmith> Zakim, aaaa is Scott+AT&T
  183. # [18:08] <Zakim> +Scott+AT&T; got it
  184. # [18:09] <Zakim> + +49.251.280.aacc
  185. # [18:09] <Zakim> + +1.408.536.aadd
  186. # [18:09] <MikeSmith> action-167?
  187. # [18:09] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-167
  188. # [18:09] <trackbot> ACTION-167 -- Cynthia Shelly to update table-summary -- due 2010-01-14 -- OPEN
  189. # [18:09] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/167
  190. # [18:09] <Julian> Zakim, +49.251.280.aacc is me
  191. # [18:09] <Zakim> +Julian; got it
  192. # [18:10] <Zakim> + +1.218.340.aaee
  193. # [18:10] <MikeSmith> cyns: I sent the change proposal to the mailing list earlier today
  194. # [18:10] <MikeSmith> action-167: Cythia sent the change proposal to the mailing list earlier today
  195. # [18:10] * trackbot attempting to add comment notes to ACTION-167.
  196. # [18:10] <trackbot> ACTION-167 Update table-summary notes added
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  198. # [18:11] <paulc> Proposal at: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Summary_Change_Proposal_Nov_18%2C_2009
  199. # [18:11] <paulc> Under consideration by A11Y TF.
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  201. # [18:11] * MikeSmith wonders who is at area codes 408 and 218
  202. # [18:11] <Zakim> + +1.831.454.aaff
  203. # [18:11] <MikeSmith> close action-167
  204. # [18:11] * trackbot attempting to close ACTION-167.
  205. # [18:11] <trackbot> ACTION-167 Update table-summary closed
  206. # [18:12] <cardona507> Zakim, mute me
  207. # [18:12] <Zakim> sorry, cardona507, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
  208. # [18:12] <cardona507> Zakim, +1.831.454.aaff is me
  209. # [18:12] <Zakim> +cardona507; got it
  210. # [18:12] <MikeSmith> action-138?
  211. # [18:12] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-138
  212. # [18:12] <trackbot> ACTION-138 -- Steve Faulkner to produce an ARIA matrix based on Henri's work -- due 2010-01-14 -- OPEN
  213. # [18:12] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/138
  214. # [18:12] <cardona507> Zakim, mute me
  215. # [18:12] <Zakim> cardona507 should now be muted
  216. # [18:12] <masinter> Zakim, who is on the phone
  217. # [18:12] <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is on the phone', masinter
  218. # [18:12] <cardona507> Good morning everyone
  219. # [18:13] <MikeSmith> paulc: let's leave action-138 open, follow up on e-mail thread
  220. # [18:13] * masinter is +1.408.536.3024
  221. # [18:13] <MikeSmith> action-160?
  222. # [18:13] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-160
  223. # [18:13] <trackbot> ACTION-160 -- Paul Cotton to write a Change Proposal for ISSUE-27 -- due 2010-01-21 -- OPEN
  224. # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/160
  225. # [18:13] <paulc> Proposal in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jan/1006.html
  226. # [18:13] <paulc> close action-160
  227. # [18:13] * trackbot attempting to close ACTION-160.
  228. # [18:13] <trackbot> ACTION-160 Write a Change Proposal for ISSUE-27 closed
  229. # [18:14] <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft.a] has tross
  230. # [18:14] <Zakim> +tross; got it
  231. # [18:14] <MikeSmith> paulc: discussion on action-160 taking place on mailing list
  232. # [18:14] <MikeSmith> action-127?
  233. # [18:14] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-127
  234. # [18:14] <trackbot> ACTION-127 -- Maciej Stachowiak to establish process for "official WG response" to other WG's RFC on LC drafts -- due 2010-01-21 -- OPEN
  235. # [18:14] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/127
  236. # [18:14] <MikeSmith> action-127: paulc will talk with Maciej and report back
  237. # [18:14] * trackbot attempting to add comment notes to ACTION-127.
  238. # [18:14] <trackbot> ACTION-127 establish process for "official WG response" to other WG's RFC on LC drafts notes added
  239. # [18:14] * rubys1 Zakim, aadd is masinter
  240. # [18:14] * Zakim +masinter; got it
  241. # [18:14] <masinter> zakim, who is here
  242. # [18:14] <Zakim> masinter, you need to end that query with '?'
  243. # [18:15] <masinter> zakim, who is here?
  244. # [18:15] <Zakim> On the phone I see Cynthia_Shelly, Radhika_Roy, Scott+AT&T, [Microsoft], Eliot_Graff, Sam, Cooper, Janina_Sajka, Mike, +1.613.998.aabb, [Microsoft.a], kliehm (muted),
  245. # [18:15] <Zakim> ... Radhika_Roy.a, Julian, masinter, +1.218.340.aaee, cardona507 (muted)
  246. # [18:15] <Zakim> [Microsoft.a] has tross
  247. # [18:15] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
  248. # [18:15] <paulc> Open request to the systems team and will take time.
  249. # [18:15] <Zakim> On IRC I see masinter, cardona507, Joshue, janina, Zakim, RRSAgent, MichaelC, Eliot_Graff, mattmay, adrianba, paulc, cyns, shelleyp, Laura, kliehm, aroben, tH, miketaylr,
  250. # [18:15] <Zakim> ... MikeSmith, shepazu, Lachy, tlr, ROBOd, Julian, krijnh, rubys1, arronei, hsivonen, karl, webben, CIA-1, gsnedders, jgraham, Shunsuke, gavin_, ed_work, hober, gavin, syp,
  251. # [18:15] <Zakim> ... Dashiva, jmb, Yudai, drry, Philip, Hixie, trackbot, inimino, matt
  252. # [18:15] <paulc> No one on the systems team so far has the time to do this work.
  253. # [18:15] <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft.a] has tross,adrianba,franko
  254. # [18:15] <Zakim> tross was already listed in [Microsoft.a], adrianba
  255. # [18:15] <Zakim> +adrianba, franko; got it
  256. # [18:15] <Zakim> -masinter
  257. # [18:16] <Zakim> +masinter
  258. # [18:16] <MikeSmith> action-163 due 2010-02-04
  259. # [18:16] * trackbot attempting to change due date on ACTION-163.
  260. # [18:16] <trackbot> ACTION-163 MediaWiki successor for current MoinMoin based wiki due date now 2010-02-04
  261. # [18:16] <Laura> Zakim, aaee is me
  262. # [18:16] <Zakim> +Laura; got it
  263. # [18:17] <MikeSmith> Topic: review of newly submitted and revised change proposals
  264. # [18:18] <MikeSmith> [paulc summarized current status]
  265. # [18:18] * masinter is confused, Paul's list of agenda's are where on the agenda?
  266. # [18:18] <MikeSmith> Topic: Review of chair calls for proposals
  267. # [18:19] <Julian> updated agenda http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jan/1053.html
  268. # [18:20] <MikeSmith> paulc: several calls for proposals went out in the last 48 hours
  269. # [18:21] <Julian> larry, http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jan/1053.html part 3
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  271. # [18:22] <MikeSmith> paulc: issue 81, Roy declined to work on this [within the time frame provided]
  272. # [18:22] <Julian> q+
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  274. # [18:22] <MikeSmith> masinter: actually, he asked for more time
  275. # [18:23] <MikeSmith> paulc: he asked for 4 months, and the chairs concluded that we could not give him that time
  276. # [18:23] <Julian> actually he asked for more time *or* to do it once other issues are resolved (because of the editorial impact)
  277. # [18:23] <Julian> q-
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  279. # [18:23] <MikeSmith> q?
  280. # [18:23] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  281. # [18:24] <paulc> New call for proposals for 9, 41, 78, 93, 94, 96, and 97 next week
  282. # [18:25] <masinter> aren't we going to run out of working group members who are actually active and willing to do any work?
  283. # [18:25] <MikeSmith> Topic: Calls for Consensus this week
  284. # [18:25] <paulc> No Calls for Consenus this week.
  285. # [18:25] <MikeSmith> [none]
  286. # [18:26] <paulc> No new issues this week.
  287. # [18:26] <MikeSmith> Topic: New issues this week [none]
  288. # [18:26] <MikeSmith> Topic: Heartbeat requirements
  289. # [18:26] <MikeSmith> paulc: chairs have decided we are close enough to consensus on publishing
  290. # [18:27] * Parts: Joshue (Joshue@86.45.213.42)
  291. # [18:27] <MikeSmith> ... we believe we had one question open on Microdata, but also believe we can get resolution on that
  292. # [18:27] <masinter> on item 4, there are no CfC on Issues, but the CfC on heartbeat documents are ongoing, just think the topic name wasn't clear.
  293. # [18:27] <paulc> See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jan/1025.html for info on publications status
  294. # [18:28] <MikeSmith> paulc: editor will have the updated draft this weekend
  295. # [18:28] <MikeSmith> ... so we plan to have a call for consensus for publishing at beginning of next week, and lasting one week
  296. # [18:30] <paulc> Scribe for next week?
  297. # [18:30] <MikeSmith> paulc: we have 4 documents proposed to be published, and CfC will provide an option to vote on publication of each individually
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  299. # [18:30] <Zakim> -Eliot_Graff
  300. # [18:30] <paulc> Adjourned.
  301. # [18:30] <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
  302. # [18:30] <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, make minutes
  303. # [18:30] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/01/21-html-wg-minutes.html MikeSmith
  304. # [18:30] <Zakim> -Cooper
  305. # [18:30] <cardona507> thanks everyone - goodbye
  306. # [18:30] <Zakim> -Sam
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  311. # [18:31] <Zakim> -Radhika_Roy
  312. # [18:31] <MikeSmith> [adjourned]
  313. # [18:31] <Zakim> -kliehm
  314. # [18:31] <Zakim> - +1.613.998.aabb
  315. # [18:31] <Zakim> -Janina_Sajka
  316. # [18:31] <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
  317. # [18:31] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
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  321. # [18:31] <Zakim> -Scott+AT&T
  322. # [18:31] <Laura> bye
  323. # [18:31] <Zakim> -Radhika_Roy.a
  324. # [18:31] <Zakim> -Mike
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  326. # [18:31] <Zakim> -Laura
  327. # [18:31] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  328. # [18:31] <Zakim> Attendees were Cynthia_Shelly, Radhika_Roy, +1.757.872.aaaa, Sam, Cooper, Eliot_Graff, Janina_Sajka, Mike, +1.613.998.aabb, adrianba, franko, kliehm, paulc, Scott+AT&T,
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  340. # [19:49] <Stevef> hi MikeSmith: are the minutes of todays accessibility taskforce meet published yet?
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  364. # [22:45] <Lachy> what's the deal with the LinkedIn spam on public-html? Has someone set public-html as their LinkedIn profile e-mail address?
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