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  46. # [11:23] <Hixie> woah, the IETF approves registries without testing them?
  47. # [11:25] <anne> have you seen the registries?
  48. # [11:26] <MikeSmith> that seems like a bug in their process
  49. # [11:26] <anne> btw, is the licensing issue resolved now?
  50. # [11:26] <anne> I thought that was another issue with the IANA stuff
  51. # [11:26] <anne> besides that they're sort of crappy
  52. # [11:26] <MikeSmith> they need a registry CR state
  53. # [11:27] <MikeSmith> anne: you mean the licensing issue about the link registry? I though mnot had gotten agreement to put an MIT license on it
  54. # [11:32] <anne> kk
  55. # [11:42] <mjs> anne: Mark said he resolved the license issue, but I am not sure anyone checked that
  56. # [11:42] <mjs> anne: there seemed to be agreement on MIT license
  57. # [11:53] <Julian> there'll be a new draft, and then it will be on the IESG agenda
  58. # [11:54] <Julian> when the new drat comes out there may be no new formal LC, but there will be opportunity to comment
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  90. # [17:09] <MikeSmith> issue-66?
  91. # [17:09] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-66
  92. # [17:09] <trackbot> ISSUE-66 -- image analysis heuristics -- OPEN
  93. # [17:09] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/66
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  96. # [17:47] <Julian> anybody interested in looking at URL decomposition test cases?
  97. # [17:49] <anne> are they online somewhere?
  98. # [17:49] <anne> if you put in a URI you might have more luck :)
  99. # [17:49] <Julian> I'm in the process to do so...
  100. # [17:53] <Julian> http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/urldecomp.xml
  101. # [17:53] <Julian> some expected results may be wrong
  102. # [17:53] <Julian> "WEBADDRESS" is kind of hard to read
  103. # [17:53] <Julian> but the level of variance between UAs indicates to me that uniform behavior is absolutely not requried for Web compat here
  104. # [17:54] <anne> your test case is too, somewhat
  105. # [17:55] <Julian> yes, it needs an explanation
  106. # [17:55] <anne> it's nicer for tests if everything is in a single file
  107. # [17:56] <Julian> it's nicer to separate input and logic
  108. # [17:59] <Julian> i probably need to allow case-insensitive matching for percent escaped stuff; sigh
  109. # [17:59] <anne> not for reviewing tests and fixing bugs
  110. # [17:59] <anne> the expected result is not stated
  111. # [18:00] <Philip> <A id="uri-7" href="http://a-umlaut-%M3%K4.org/">http://a-umlaut-ä.org/</A>
  112. # [18:00] <Philip> That's what Opera says for innerHTML
  113. # [18:01] <Philip> which is presumably a bug in the XSLT system somewhere
  114. # [18:01] <gsnedders> Uh, that looks bad
  115. # [18:01] <gsnedders> File a bug?
  116. # [18:02] <Philip> It's not my bug, someone else can do it :-p
  117. # [18:03] <Philip> Might be better for the test cases to be plain HTML/JS to avoid that additional layer of potential bugs
  118. # [18:04] <Philip> (I get the same behaviour in an oldish version of Opera 10.50)
  119. # [18:05] <Julian> the expected result is in the tooltip
  120. # [18:07] <Julian> also added http://greenbytes.de/tech/webdav/urldecomp.html for UAs with broken xslt
  121. # [18:07] <gsnedders> Julian: There are only two files there?
  122. # [18:08] <gsnedders> Julian: s/there/for that page?/
  123. # [18:08] <gsnedders> The XML and the XSLT? No other files needed?
  124. # [18:08] <Julian> yes
  125. # [18:08] * gsnedders grabs a copy and files a bug
  126. # [18:09] <Philip> Thanks, Opera seems happier with the HTML
  127. # [18:09] <Philip> y.setAttribute("title", "Expected: '" + y.getAttribute("title"));
  128. # [18:09] <Philip> Julian: That should have a |+ "'"| at the end
  129. # [18:10] <anne> in 10.5 it for the HTML version it seems we are pretty much identical to the other browsers except for not omitting the port if it is the default one
  130. # [18:18] <anne> Julian, look pretty nice otherwise
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  134. # [18:26] <Julian> Philip: fixed
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  136. # [18:26] <Julian> Anne: define "other" .-) I see huge differences in all of them
  137. # [18:27] <Julian> so this needs
  138. # [18:27] <Julian> - review of the expected results
  139. # [18:27] <Julian> - more tests
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  142. # [18:28] <anne> firefox/chrome
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  144. # [18:29] <Julian> let's see
  145. # [18:29] <Julian> - chrome has broken default ports
  146. # [18:29] <Julian> - chrome differs in handling non-ASCII in host name
  147. # [18:29] <Julian> - chrome differs in escaping non-URIc in path
  148. # [18:30] <Julian> it matches FF in handling non-ASCII in the path, but the result seems to be a fail
  149. # [18:31] <anne> does not match it entirely
  150. # [18:31] <anne> and it's not clear what the correct result should be
  151. # [18:31] <Julian> aha!
  152. # [18:31] <Julian> so is it a bug in WEBADDRESSES?
  153. # [18:32] <anne> some of it could be
  154. # [18:32] <Julian> http://example.org/a-umlaut-ä is a valid HTML-URL (aka IRI), so why do the non-ASCII characters mangeld
  155. # [18:32] <Julian> mangled?
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  157. # [18:32] <Julian> it appears that some of the stuff in WEBADDRESSES simply is wishful thinking.
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  159. # [18:33] <anne> %E4 does not seem valid
  160. # [18:33] <Julian> why not?
  161. # [18:33] <anne> if it's meant to be ä anyway
  162. # [18:34] <Julian> I haven't even started looking at non-ASCII in the query part...
  163. # [18:34] <anne> I thought this was about the path
  164. # [18:34] <Julian> yes, we're talking about the path
  165. # [18:34] <Julian> wait
  166. # [18:35] <Julian> I may be victim of XSLT in HTML output tryint to be helpful
  167. # [18:36] <anne> funny that firefox uppercases escapes in paths and lowercases them in hosts
  168. # [18:37] <Julian> i need to change the code that generates the hrefs
  169. # [18:37] <anne> another bug in webaddresses seems to be that it does not remove default ports for <port>
  170. # [18:43] <Julian> ok, the hrefs are now passed through in @title so that XSLT doesn't translate them
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  174. # [19:06] <Julian> so looking at step 6 in webaddresses there's one percent-unescaping step I don't have right now
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