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  7. # [00:45] <Hixie> rubys1, mjs: any change we could clarify http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html to emphasise that when adding the TrackerRequest keyword, the bug isn't moved into the REOPENED state?
  8. # [00:46] <Hixie> every now and then people reopen bugs when moving them to issues, and then I end up upsetting them when I close the bugs again because they think I'm trying to shut down their issue
  9. # [00:46] <mjs> Hixie: that's definitely an intent and yes we can clarify it
  10. # [00:47] <Hixie> thanks
  11. # [00:48] <mjs> Hixie: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9007
  12. # [00:49] <mjs> Hixie: we also haven't really been using VERIFIED state yet afaict
  13. # [00:49] <Hixie> thanks
  14. # [00:49] <mjs> not sure what to do about that
  15. # [00:49] <Hixie> yeah
  16. # [00:49] <mjs> should we just drop it as a separate step, or get volunteers to review RESOLVED bugs?
  17. # [00:49] <Hixie> at some point we'll need to go through NEEDSINFO, LATER, and REMIND bugs
  18. # [00:50] <Hixie> and reopen those that never got reopened but should have
  19. # [00:50] <Hixie> LATER and REMIND i regularly go through
  20. # [00:50] <Hixie> but NEEDSINFO i haven't been looking at
  21. # [00:50] <Hixie> I think it'd be good to have volunteers check the bugs
  22. # [00:50] <Hixie> it's not unusual for my script to fail to submit the diff to the bug properly
  23. # [00:50] <Hixie> so sometimes I'll have missed that
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  54. # [10:46] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: sideshowbarker * r529 /trunk/relaxng/assertions.sch: [.sch] made some wording tweaks for consistency
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  117. # [22:10] <rubys> Hixie: ping?
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  121. # [22:30] <Hixie> rubys: pong
  122. # [22:31] <rubys> <chuckle> I was going to seek your input before I sent out the email I just sent, but I timed out :-)
  123. # [22:31] <Hixie> K :-)
  124. # [22:31] <rubys> The question was: is there any place in the 2D context API that you think an issue marker for the lack of accessibility best fits?
  125. # [22:32] <rubys> The context is that we have a second FO <sigh>
  126. # [22:32] <Hixie> what lack of accessibility?
  127. # [22:32] <rubys> canvas
  128. # [22:32] <rubys> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/74
  129. # [22:32] <Hixie> <canvas> has a better accessibility story than <object> and a _much_ better accessibility story than <img>
  130. # [22:33] <rubys> Need I dig out the email where you asked for help on this? :-P
  131. # [22:34] <Philip> http://dev.w3.org/html5/2dcontext/#focus-management - it has a whole method solely for accessibility, so claims that accessibility support "does not exist at all" appear to be factually incorrect
  132. # [22:34] <Hixie> i asked the wai group for help, but never got anything. in the meantime i got help from other experts and fixed the last remaining issue
  133. # [22:34] <Hixie> (namely what Philip just mentioned)
  134. # [22:35] <Hixie> (even before asking the wai group for help, the accessibility story for <canvas> was already better than <object>'s and <img>'s -- i asked because they kept saying i hadn't asked, and i figured that maybe they were hoping i'd ask because they had an answer)
  135. # [22:35] <Hixie> (turns out i was wrong, but oh well)
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  138. # [22:37] <rubys1> momentary power glitch, lost connection
  139. # [22:38] <Hixie> what was the last thing you saw?
  140. # [22:38] <rubys1> can't tell you :-)... I'm loading the irc logs now (slow....)
  141. # [22:39] <Hixie> <rubys> Need I dig out the email where you asked for help on this? :-P
  142. # [22:39] <Hixie> <Philip> http://dev.w3.org/html5/2dcontext/#focus-management - it has a whole method solely for accessibility, so claims that accessibility support "does not exist at all" appear to be factually incorrect
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  145. # [22:39] <Hixie> <rubys> Need I dig out the email where you asked for help on this? :-P
  146. # [22:39] <rubys> ok, caught up
  147. # [22:39] <Hixie> <Philip> http://dev.w3.org/html5/2dcontext/#focus-management - it has a whole method solely for accessibility, so claims that accessibility support "does not exist at all" appear to be factually incorrect
  148. # [22:39] <Hixie> ok :-)
  149. # [22:41] <rubys> OK, I guess I have no further questions on that one.
  150. # [22:41] <rubys> On Issue-30, I really, really, really want to break the endless loop of people asking you variations of the same question, and you giving variations of the same answer.
  151. # [22:41] <Hixie> you and me both
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  154. # [22:55] <rubys> I don't know if this will help, but it is the best I can think of at the moment: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Feb/0544.html
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