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  15. # [02:47] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9207] Anything else: This part of the spec is problematic, for example, a query string variable &lang_id=1 in as part of an attribute of say an img tag, will get converted into an character token when it shouldn't be. Why is the set of characters a-z, A-Z, 0- <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Mar/0054.html> ** [Bug 9207] New: Anything else: This part of the spec is problematic, for example, a query string vari
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  18. # [03:46] <MikeSmith> bug 9198
  19. # [03:46] <pimpbot> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9198 contributor@whatwg.org, P3, NEW, <embed hspace> and <embed vspace> should not be allowed
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  42. # [08:48] <pimpbot> changes: mike: alt-techniques update from Steven Faulkner <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Mar/0072.html>
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  46. # [09:49] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 9207] Anything else: This part of the spec is problematic, for example, a query string variable &lang_id=1 in as part of an attribute of say an img tag, will get converted into an character token when it shouldn't be. Why is the set of characters a-z, A-Z, 0-" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Mar/0055.html>
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  50. # [10:16] <MikeSmith> @tell mjs fyi, filed the bug about "Nightly builds of WebKit are not supported on Mac OS X 10.5 at this time" at https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35854
  51. # [10:16] <pimpbot> MikeSmith: You got it, player.
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  54. # [10:31] <pimpbot> mjs: Sent 14 minutes ago: <MikeSmith> fyi, filed the bug about Nightly builds of WebKit are not supported on Mac OS X 10.5 at this time at https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35854
  55. # [10:31] <MikeSmith> hmm, pimpbot likes to eat quotation marks
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  57. # [10:47] <pimpbot> planet: Release of Bugzilla 3.6rc1 and 3.4.6 <http://bugzillaupdate.wordpress.com/2010/03/08/release-3-6rc1/>
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  60. # [10:49] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9211] New: slotIndices (new IDL attribute): collection of all col-row intersections (slots) the cell spans <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Mar/0059.html> ** [Bug 9210] New: colSpan: there is no default value (rowSpan has one) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Mar/0058.html> ** [Bug 9209] New: sectionRowIndex: check text in parentheses, seems redundant <http://lists.w3.o
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  64. # [11:07] <anne> subscribing to the ceo blog fails
  65. # [11:07] <anne> it subscribes to the Q&A blog instead or something
  66. # [11:07] <anne> at least with Google Reader
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  68. # [11:09] <MikeSmith> anne: yeah, I think it's not actually set up yet
  69. # [11:09] <anne> oh, maybe it's all the same blog
  70. # [11:09] <anne> since it arrives on http://www.w3.org/QA/2010/03/w3c_ceo_blog_first_posting_mar.html too
  71. # [11:09] <pimpbot> Title: W3C CEO blog – First posting – March 8, 2010 - W3C Blog (at www.w3.org)
  72. # [11:09] <MikeSmith> yeah
  73. # [11:10] <MikeSmith> hmm, I guess it is actually set up, though
  74. # [11:10] <MikeSmith> erp, no
  75. # [11:10] <MikeSmith> needs to be categorized properly, I think
  76. # [11:10] <MikeSmith> seems it's not actually categorized yet
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  143. # [17:49] <pimpbot> planet: CSS3 box shadow on top of children <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2402473/css3-box-shadow-on-top-of-children>
  144. # [17:51] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9219] New: Language values should be defined by BCP 47 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Mar/0068.html> ** [Bug 9218] New: Enable Automatic Validators to Programmatically Determine the Presence or Absence of a Set of Text Alternatives <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Mar/0067.html> ** [Bug 9217] New: Remove the Paragraph-Section-Heading loophole for not providing a text alt
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  154. # [18:37] <Julian> MikeSmith, I don't think it's a good idea to cite by BCP#, and then refer to a concrete section. It might move.
  155. # [18:40] <MikeSmith> Julian: I don't think it's a good idea to reference BCPs at all, because we have no idea if the BCP is going to change in a non-backward-compatible way
  156. # [18:41] <MikeSmith> which is why I intentionally referenced RFC 5646 instead
  157. # [18:41] <MikeSmith> to begin with
  158. # [18:41] <Julian> ack; so who made you change it?
  159. # [18:42] <Julian> :-)
  160. # [18:42] <MikeSmith> nobody made me, there was just a request that I have tried to accomodate
  161. # [18:43] <Julian> I believe you that whatever you choose to do will make *somebody* complain
  162. # [18:43] <MikeSmith> heh
  163. # [18:43] <MikeSmith> yep
  164. # [18:43] <MikeSmith> Julian: btw, will you be at IETF77?
  165. # [18:44] <Julian> yes
  166. # [18:44] <MikeSmith> I see that the HTTP WG is meeting this time
  167. # [18:44] <Julian> I have to :-)
  168. # [18:44] <MikeSmith> yeah, I figured
  169. # [18:44] <MikeSmith> I unfortunately won't be there
  170. # [18:44] <Julian> hmm
  171. # [18:45] <MikeSmith> since it is scheduled for the same days at the W3C AC meeting
  172. # [18:45] <Julian> :-) We told you so.
  173. # [18:45] <MikeSmith> yeah, true
  174. # [18:45] <MikeSmith> seems like this is happening almost every time
  175. # [18:46] <Julian> Do you know whether there'll be WhatWGish people for hyBi?
  176. # [18:46] <MikeSmith> as far as scheduling of W3C TPAC and AC meeting vs IETF
  177. # [18:49] <pimpbot> planet: Code-sharing Update <http://coffeeonthekeyboard.com/code-sharing-update-361/>
  178. # [18:51] <pimpbot> changes: mike: h:tml; reference BCP 47 instead of RFC 5646 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Mar/0073.html>
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  186. # [19:49] <pimpbot> planet: @rands hey hey hey now. http://diveintohtml5.org/ :) <http://twitter.com/diveintomark/statuses/10181880880>
  187. # [19:51] <pimpbot> changes: mike: mark the cite element as "Changed" (thx=Jeremy Keith) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Mar/0074.html>
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  193. # [20:33] <mjs> MikeSmith: are you around still?
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  197. # [20:49] <pimpbot> planet: Dive Into HTML5 <http://diveintohtml5.org/>
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  213. # [22:22] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: ack for earlier checkins (whatwg r4832) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Mar/0079.html> ** mjs: Record proposal for ISSUE-74. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Mar/0078.html> ** mjs: Record volunteer for ISSUE-104. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Mar/0077.html> ** mjs: Removed extra cell. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-dif
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  215. # [22:50] <pimpbot> planet: Thoughts on the future of web-based HTML editors <http://ehsanakhgari.org/blog/2010-03-08/thoughts-future-web-based-html-editors>
  216. # [22:52] <pimpbot> changes: mjs: Record ISSUE-27 volunteers to test registry. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Mar/0081.html> ** mjs: Recorded proposal for ISSUE-101. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Mar/0080.html>
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  219. # [23:52] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: 'define' background='' for non-body elements. (whatwg r4833) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Mar/0082.html>
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