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  8. # [01:50] <pimpbot> planet: Is there a way to dynamically extend the html5 canvas without clearing what's drawn on it? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2405772/is-there-a-way-to-dynamically-extend-the-html5-canvas-without-clearing-whats-dra> ** HTML5 Canvas resize to fit window <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1664785/html5-canvas-resize-to-fit-window> ** Which browsers support html5 offline storage? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1194784/which-brow
  9. # [01:52] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: minor wording fix (whatwg r4835) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Mar/0084.html> ** hixie: Disallow empty URLs for external resources. Make UAs ignore such references. (whatwg r4834) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Mar/0083.html>
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  16. # [02:23] <MikeSmithX> mjs: here now
  17. # [02:24] <mjs> MikeSmithX: I wanted to ask if it's possible to add new states to the Tracker
  18. # [02:24] <mjs> (not that I necessarily think we should, but someone requested it, so I'd like to know if it is technically feasible)
  19. # [02:26] <mjs> hmm actually it looks like there is a POSTPONED state that we don't use
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  22. # [02:26] <MikeSmith> it is technically feasible. we were the ones who originally requested the RAISED state
  23. # [02:27] <mjs> ok
  24. # [02:27] <MikeSmith> but I think whatever we wanted to add, we'd need to make a case that it'd be generally useful, not just specifically useful for us
  25. # [02:27] <MikeSmith> because it'd need to be added globally to all WG trackers, I think
  26. # [02:27] <mjs> ok, thanks
  27. # [02:27] <mjs> in this bug Larry requested a TIMEOUT state (among other things): http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9187
  28. # [02:27] <pimpbot> 9187: lmm@acm.org, P2, NEW, Need transparency in issue and bug status in databases & document.
  29. # [02:28] <mjs> Larry sure uses a lot of "scare" quotes so it's hard to be "sure" what he "means"
  30. # [02:30] <MikeSmith> I like to use those too myself, but I use implied ones, and leave it up to the reader to figure out where to insert them in my statements
  31. # [02:30] <MikeSmith> POSTPONED would seem to mean something very similar to TIMEOUT
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  37. # [03:26] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 9187] Need transparency in issue and bug status in databases & document." (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Mar/0071.html>
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  54. # [06:52] <pimpbot> planet: Play ogg inside a page? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2406666/play-ogg-inside-a-page> ** Which technology is best to develop web2.0? Flex,JavaFX and html5 <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2406698/which-technology-is-best-to-develop-web2-0-flex-javafx-and-html5>
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  62. # [08:58] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9010] There are one or more alternate methods of adding data without using RDFa, such as [microdata]. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Mar/0072.html>
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  67. # [09:52] <pimpbot> planet: Is there a way to make html5 video fullscreen <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1055214/is-there-a-way-to-make-html5-video-fullscreen>
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  81. # [11:29] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 6504] description of what target attribute represents should not use term "browsing context" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Mar/0073.html>
  82. # [11:29] <pimpbot> changes: mjs: Make all links to the old wiki point to the new wiki instead. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Mar/0085.html>
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  90. # [11:53] <pimpbot> planet: What is the best way to load multiple images to a web page and have a scroll bar to switch between them? HTML5? earthquake studdy for fun <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2408029/what-is-the-best-way-to-load-multiple-images-to-a-web-page-and-have-a-scroll-bar>
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  98. # [12:53] <pimpbot> planet: Spectrum Visualization with the HTML5 Audio Data API <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ajaxian/~3/tVWFXrUtupI/spectrum-visualization-with-the-html5-audio-data-api>
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  102. # [13:53] <pimpbot> planet: HTML5 peertopeerconnection() <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2408738/html5-peertopeerconnection>
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  108. # [14:29] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9187] Need transparency in issue and bug status in databases & document. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Mar/0074.html>
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  114. # [15:07] <MikeSmith> action-170?
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  116. # [15:07] <trackbot> ACTION-170 -- Janina Sajka to update A11Y timeline for tracker related issues -- due 2010-03-11 -- OPEN
  117. # [15:07] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/170
  118. # [15:07] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-170 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  119. # [15:08] <MikeSmith> issue-9?
  120. # [15:08] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-9
  121. # [15:08] <trackbot> ISSUE-9 -- how accessibility works for <video> is unclear -- RAISED
  122. # [15:08] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/9
  123. # [15:08] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-9 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  124. # [15:08] <MikeSmith> issue-30?
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  126. # [15:08] <trackbot> ISSUE-30 -- Should HTML 5 include a longdesc attribute for images -- OPEN
  127. # [15:08] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/30
  128. # [15:08] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-30 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  129. # [15:09] <MikeSmith> issue-31?
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  131. # [15:09] <trackbot> ISSUE-31 -- What to do when a reasonable text equivalent is unknown/unavailable? -- OPEN
  132. # [15:09] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/31
  133. # [15:09] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-31 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  134. # [15:09] <MikeSmith> issue-32?
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  136. # [15:09] <trackbot> ISSUE-32 -- how to provide a summary of a table, e.g. for unsighted navigation? -- OPEN
  137. # [15:09] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/32
  138. # [15:09] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-32 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  139. # [15:09] <MikeSmith> issue-66?
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  141. # [15:09] <trackbot> ISSUE-66 -- image analysis heuristics -- OPEN
  142. # [15:09] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/66
  143. # [15:09] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-66 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  144. # [15:09] <MikeSmith> issue-74?
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  146. # [15:09] <trackbot> ISSUE-74 -- How accessibility works for <canvas> is unclear. -- OPEN
  147. # [15:09] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/74
  148. # [15:09] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-74 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  149. # [15:10] <MikeSmith> issue-80?
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  151. # [15:10] <trackbot> ISSUE-80 -- document conformance and device dependent display of title attribute content -- OPEN
  152. # [15:10] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/80
  153. # [15:10] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-80 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  154. # [15:10] <MikeSmith> issue-85?
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  156. # [15:10] <trackbot> ISSUE-85 -- ARIA roles added to the a element should be conforming in HTML5 -- OPEN
  157. # [15:10] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/85
  158. # [15:10] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-85 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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  167. # [16:00] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9221] New: still unclear definition of "plugin" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Mar/0075.html>
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  170. # [16:22] <MikeSmith> issue-66?
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  172. # [16:22] <trackbot> ISSUE-66 -- image analysis heuristics -- OPEN
  173. # [16:22] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/66
  174. # [16:22] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-66 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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  177. # [17:05] <MikeSmith> mjs: do we have an HTML WG issue associated with "Backward-compatibility of text/html media type" (as discussed on the TAG list last month)
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  180. # [17:24] <mjs> MikeSmith: yeah, we have one marked as a post-LC issue
  181. # [17:24] <MikeSmith> mjs: you remember the issue number?
  182. # [17:24] <MikeSmith> tracker issue?
  183. # [17:25] <mjs> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/53
  184. # [17:25] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-53 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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  186. # [17:26] <MikeSmith> hmm, I remember now asking you about this before and you replied with the same information, and I seem to have promptly forgot
  187. # [17:26] <MikeSmith> anyway, I will try to remember this time
  188. # [17:27] <MikeSmith> it's just like that movie "Memento"
  189. # [17:27] <MikeSmith> except without any of the drama at all
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  194. # [17:38] <Julian> MikeSmith, I volunteer to add same drama.
  195. # [17:38] <Julian> :-)
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  197. # [17:39] <Julian> That issue is certainly related, but not really the same.
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  199. # [17:40] <MikeSmith> Julian: true, that issue is not really an issue
  200. # [17:40] <MikeSmith> implied scared quotes
  201. # [17:41] <MikeSmith> there does not seem to be anything controversial about issue 53
  202. # [17:41] <MikeSmith> whereas
  203. # [17:41] <MikeSmith> strike that whereas
  204. # [17:41] <MikeSmith> there is no drama in issue 53
  205. # [17:41] <Julian> yes, 53 is just a reminder that this needs to happen at some point of time
  206. # [17:42] <MikeSmith> but there is plenty of drama in "Backward-compatibility of text/html media type"
  207. # [17:42] <Julian> yes, we need to either expand the scope, or add a new issue that can then contain the drame
  208. # [17:42] <Julian> a
  209. # [17:42] <MikeSmith> I would rather not add another issue if we can avoid it
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  211. # [17:54] <pimpbot> planet: The i, b, em, & strong elements <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/html5doctor/~3/aJ_jEMJsojQ/>
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  229. # [20:55] <pimpbot> planet: Announcing the Jetpack SDK: First Milestone Release <http://mozillalabs.com/jetpack/2010/03/09/announcing-the-jetpack-sdk/> ** Announcing the Jetpack SDK: First Milestone Release <http://mozillalabs.com/jetpack/2010/03/09/announcing-the-jetpack-sdk/>
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  240. # [22:55] <pimpbot> planet: Resizing an image in an HTML5 canvas <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2303690/resizing-an-image-in-an-html5-canvas> ** HTML5 Cache manifest file itself is not cached, and called at each resource load <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2412502/html5-cache-manifest-file-itself-is-not-cached-and-called-at-each-resource-load>
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  248. # [23:56] <pimpbot> planet: Do HTML5 custom data attributes “work” in IE 6? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2412947/do-html5-custom-data-attributes-work-in-ie-6>
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