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  5. # [00:14] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 9229] meter and progress elements constraint validation status shouldn't be mentionned" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0054.html> ** "[Bug 9279] Align the English isindex prompt with Firefox and Chrome" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0052.html> ** [Bug 6496] Allow <img aria-labelledby> to act as a text alternative
  6. # [00:17] <Hixie> i'm having trouble comitting to the w3c cvs
  7. # [00:19] <Hixie> hm, it changed on the server
  8. # [00:28] <Hixie> if anyone sees mikesmith, let him know i had to force a cvs checkin, so we might need to coordinate to fix whatever he had checked in
  9. # [00:44] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: force merge recent changes into w3c copy (there were checkin problems before, not sure why) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0067.html>
  10. # [00:44] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9280] Add default button option/attribute for forms <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0057.html> ** "[Bug 7851] Some (perhaps all) scripts with a for="" attribute should be ignored" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0056.html>
  11. # [00:45] <pimpbot> planet: Div positioning on a canvas with arrows bindings <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2564042/div-positioning-on-a-canvas-with-arrows-bindings>
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  14. # [01:45] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 9286] marginheight and topmargin are missing from the list of obsolete elements" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0063.html> ** "[Bug 9287] DOCTYPE "mostly useless"" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0061.html> ** "[Bug 9239] specify a convention for preventing vendor-specific non-standard extensions from clashing with
  15. # [01:45] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: add <body margin*> to the obsolete section (whatwg r4941) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0068.html>
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  20. # [02:15] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: cleanup of the lang='' processing for clarity. (whatwg r4943) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0070.html> ** hixie: magically fix strange mess with named character references. Not sure what's going on here. (whatwg r4942) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0069.html>
  21. # [02:15] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9263] Incorrect language determination algorithm <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0066.html> ** [Bug 9213] HTML5 Lacks a Way to Programmatically-Determine Missing Text Alternatives <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0065.html> ** [Bug 9263] Incorrect language determination algorithm <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0064.html>
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  28. # [03:45] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: typo (whatwg r4946) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0073.html> ** hixie: It wouldn't make sense to do descendants... (whatwg r4945) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0072.html> ** hixie: typo - thanks myakura (whatwg r4944) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0071.html>
  29. # [03:45] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9311] Two instances of "(unless this has been overrriden as described above)" where: s/overrriden/overriden <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0078.html> ** [Bug 9217] Remove the Paragraph-Section-Heading loophole for not providing a text alternative. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0077.html> ** [Bug 9311] Two instances of "(unless this has been overrriden as descr
  30. # [03:45] <pimpbot> planet: How to use websocket to strengthen ajax? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2564539/how-to-use-websocket-to-strengthen-ajax>
  31. # [04:15] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9385] New: Presumably "_ferret-smellcode" is intended, not "fetter", unless the vendor is particularly incompetent. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0079.html>
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  35. # [04:45] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7386] SharedWorkerGlobalScope <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0080.html>
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  38. # [05:46] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Clarify sentence. (whatwg r4947) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0074.html>
  39. # [05:46] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9331] "Columns can correspond to col elements, but in the absence of col elements are implied." appears to be missing a comma after "... but in the absence of col...". <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0083.html> ** [Bug 9332] It's not clear that the (implied) HTML 4.01 use of tfoot is prohibited (which seems to demand content identical to thead). Or should duplicate thead content be allowed in tfoot? Sect
  40. # [05:46] <pimpbot> planet: Opera Developer Network: Taking HTML5 to a new dimension <http://my.opera.com/ODIN/blog/show.dml/9542531>
  41. # [06:46] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9386] New: margintop dfn has wrong text <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0084.html>
  42. # [07:12] <CIA-1> v.nu-validator: sideshowbarker * r346 /trunk/schema/legacy/legacy.rnc:
  43. # [07:12] <CIA-1> v.nu-validator: make body margin* attrs valid in legacy.rnc so that we don't report them twice (b=730)
  44. # [07:12] <CIA-1> v.nu-validator: http://bugzilla.validator.nu/show_bug.cgi?id=730
  45. # [07:12] <pimpbot> Title: Bug 730 add "is obsolete" reporting for body attributes marginheight, marginwidth, marginbottom, margintop, marginleft, marginright (at bugzilla.validator.nu)
  46. # [07:13] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: sideshowbarker * r545 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
  47. # [07:13] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: report body margin* attrs as obsolete(b=730)
  48. # [07:13] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: http://bugzilla.validator.nu/show_bug.cgi?id=730
  49. # [07:13] <pimpbot> Title: Bug 730 add "is obsolete" reporting for body attributes marginheight, marginwidth, marginbottom, margintop, marginleft, marginright (at bugzilla.validator.nu)
  50. # [07:16] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9387] this section is missing "view this example online" links <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0088.html> ** [Bug 9388] this section is missing "view this example online" links <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0087.html> ** [Bug 9388] New: this section is missing "view this example online" links <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/
  51. # [07:46] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Drop DOM Views support. (whatwg r4948) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0075.html>
  52. # [07:46] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 9336] Remove concept of views as per discussion at last TPAC in the WebApps WG. At some point DOM Level 2 Views will be updated to recommend that implementors not implement the concept." (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0090.html>
  53. # [08:16] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: bogus grammar (whatwg r4950) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0077.html> ** hixie: The CSS rules need to do attribute value matching consistently across HTML and XHTML, despite the rules for interpreting author style sheets. (whatwg r4949) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0076.html>
  54. # [08:16] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 9340] "RCDATAs element" should be "RCDATA elements" (or rephrase to refer to a single element)" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0096.html> ** [Bug 9335] values need to be case-insensitive in xhtml too for the ua style sheet to work (e.g. <input type="HIDDEN"/>) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0094.html> ** [Bug 9339] " Until the manifest i
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  57. # [08:46] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: s/span/code/ for some event identifiers (whatwg r4955) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0082.html> ** hixie: mention that <option name> is obsolete (whatwg r4954) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0081.html> ** 2Dapi; hixie: remove redundant requirement (yeah web idl) (whatwg r4953) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0080.html> ** hix
  58. # [08:46] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9348] s/<span title="event-click">/<code title="event-click">/ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0111.html> ** [Bug 9356] Presumably "Errors that encourage a correct understanding of the spec" should read "an incorrect" instead of "a correct". <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0109.html> ** [Bug 9348] s/<span title="event-click">/<code title="event-click">/ <http:
  59. # [09:17] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9352] Make unescaped & conforming in attribute values in some cases <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0117.html> ** [Bug 9357] input element color state should be able to suffer from a type mismatch <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0116.html> ** [Bug 7601] refer to pronunciations for TTS PLS with link rel value "pronunciation" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public
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  61. # [09:47] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9353] autocomplete=off should be allowed and should work on non-<input> form controls <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0122.html> ** [Bug 9350] Make <wbr> element conforming <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0121.html> ** [Bug 9362] <embed> should fire 'load' event so that it's more useful for e.g. SVG <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/201
  62. # [09:47] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Move <br> and <wbr> into the text-level semantics section. (whatwg r4957) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0084.html> ** hixie: Make <wbr> valid. (whatwg r4956) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0083.html>
  63. # [10:17] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9355] Obsolete presentational markup should be conforming <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0123.html>
  64. # [10:47] <pimpbot> changes: mike: added admonitions about obsolete body margin* attributes <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0085.html>
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  67. # [10:59] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: added <wbr> to the schema (b=731)
  68. # [10:59] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: http://bugzilla.validator.nu/show_bug.cgi?id=731
  69. # [10:59] <pimpbot> Title: Bug 731 add the element (at bugzilla.validator.nu)
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  86. # [16:48] <pimpbot> planet: RT @WHATWG: HTML5: Make <wbr> valid. http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=4955 <http://twitter.com/diveintomark/statuses/11482744598> ** Does HTML5 allow you to interact with local client files from within a browser <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2376745/does-html5-allow-you-to-interact-with-local-client-files-from-within-a-browser>
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  94. # [17:49] <pimpbot> planet: HTML5 Revision Tracker <http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=4955&to=4956>
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  103. # [19:19] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9356] Presumably "Errors that encourage a correct understanding of the spec" should read "an incorrect" instead of "a correct". <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0126.html>
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  105. # [19:49] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9365] Attribute selectors for HTML5 audio and video should be listed as case insensitive <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0127.html>
  106. # [19:49] <pimpbot> planet: HTML5 Forms <http://annevankesteren.nl/2010/04/html5-forms>
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  109. # [20:19] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9390] New: "_fetter-smellcode="LEM01"" - s/fetter/ferret/, unless this is meant to be an obscure joke that I'm missing <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0128.html>
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  111. # [20:49] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9391] New: What about a CR character token after <pre> or <listing>? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0129.html>
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  113. # [21:49] <pimpbot> changes: mike: added the wbr element <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0086.html>
  114. # [21:49] <pimpbot> planet: Point data structure for a sketching application <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2568752/point-data-structure-for-a-sketching-application>
  115. # [22:17] <CIA-1> v.nu-validator: sideshowbarker * r347 /trunk/schema/legacy/legacy.rnc:
  116. # [22:17] <CIA-1> v.nu-validator: added option/@name as valid to legacy.rnc so that we don't report it as an error twice (b=732)
  117. # [22:17] <CIA-1> v.nu-validator: http://bugzilla.validator.nu/show_bug.cgi?id=732
  118. # [22:17] <pimpbot> Title: Bug 732 add "is obsolete" reporting for option/name (at bugzilla.validator.nu)
  119. # [22:19] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: sideshowbarker * r547 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
  120. # [22:19] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: report option/@name as obsolete (b=732)
  121. # [22:19] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: http://bugzilla.validator.nu/show_bug.cgi?id=732
  122. # [22:19] <pimpbot> Title: Bug 732 add "is obsolete" reporting for option/name (at bugzilla.validator.nu)
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  130. # [22:49] <phenny> Fri, 02 Apr 2010 16:47:12 EDT
  131. # [22:50] <pimpbot> changes: mike: add admonition about option/@name being obsolete <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0087.html>
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  140. # [23:50] <pimpbot> changes: workers; hixie: spec gen updates (whatwg r4958) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0095.html> ** webDB; hixie: spec gen updates (whatwg r4958) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0097.html> ** webstorage; hixie: spec gen updates (whatwg r4958) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0094.html> ** websocket; hixie: spec gen updates (whatwg r4958) <
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