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  4. # [00:03] <pimpbot> planet: How can i set my background color through HTML5 getItem? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2640948/how-can-i-set-my-background-color-through-html5-getitem>
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  8. # [00:37] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 9506] "Content inside a blockquote must be quoted from another source, whose address, if it has one, should be cited in the cite attribute." **Should** be cited?" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0164.html>
  9. # [00:37] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Relax the recommendation of citing URLs for <blockquote> and <q>. (whatwg r5047) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0243.html>
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  14. # [01:00] <MikeSmith> issue-66?
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  16. # [01:00] <trackbot> ISSUE-66 -- image analysis heuristics -- OPEN
  17. # [01:00] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/66
  18. # [01:00] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-66 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  19. # [01:00] <MikeSmith> issue-70?
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  21. # [01:00] <trackbot> ISSUE-70 -- testing to see if tracker mail integration is working -- created by Web UI -- CLOSED
  22. # [01:00] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/70
  23. # [01:00] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-70 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  24. # [01:03] <pimpbot> planet: Thoughts on converting HTML to Atom <http://edward.oconnor.cx/2010/04/html-to-atom> ** @sethladd :-) But hey, every page of http://diveintohtml5.org/ is valid HTML. If you find otherwise, let me know and I'll fix it! <http://twitter.com/diveintomark/statuses/12186467946>
  25. # [01:08] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9522] New: Window Object <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0166.html> ** [Bug 9521] New: Window Object <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0165.html>
  26. # [01:08] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: ack for some recent checkins (whatwg r5048) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0244.html>
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  28. # [01:40] <Mardak> with html5 form type=email, you can provide a datalist with <options value=.. label=../> to have 2 strings associated to the suggestion, e.g., email address and pretty name
  29. # [01:40] <Mardak> how would a page provide other information to be displayed for the suggestion?
  30. # [01:41] <Hixie> like what?
  31. # [01:41] <Mardak> e.g., an image
  32. # [01:45] <Mardak> Hixie: i suppose the page author could concat multiple strings hoping the user agent will display it a certain way if they wanted to provide information like "<name>, <company>, <etc>"
  33. # [01:45] <Mardak> http://people.mozilla.com/~mhanson/contacts/screenshot_facecompletion.png
  34. # [01:46] <Hixie> there is no way to do that currently, no
  35. # [01:46] <Hixie> list="" is more for a combobox than a suggest box
  36. # [01:46] <Hixie> though of course they have a lot of overlap
  37. # [01:46] <Hixie> i expect we'll add suggest-specific features in some future version
  38. # [01:47] <Mardak> hrm. i guess for type=email with datalist options, the user agent would then display page-provided items differently from local data that can contain pictures
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  42. # [02:38] <pimpbot> changes: websocket; hixie: Tighten up the definition of bufferedAmount. (whatwg r5049) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0245.html>
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  44. # [03:04] <pimpbot> planet: How HTML5 Geolocation Feature Works? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2641948/how-html5-geolocation-feature-works>
  45. # [03:08] <pimpbot> changes: websocket; hixie: add an explicit paragraph about how ws:...:443 isn't to be blocked. (whatwg r5052) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0246.html>
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  50. # [03:38] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9513] It's not clear what takes precendece on a conflit: For spliting our web site structure into sections, should we use a section (without header on some cases) our should we use DIV (knowing that div brings no semantic relevance at all). The *should* on the <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0167.html>
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  52. # [04:04] <pimpbot> planet: HTML5 Web DB Security <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2642043/html5-web-db-security>
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  54. # [04:33] <MikeSmith> @notes
  55. # [04:33] <pimpbot> MikeSmith: I currently have notes waiting for SteveF.
  56. # [04:33] <MikeSmith> @help notes
  57. # [04:33] <pimpbot> MikeSmith: (notes [<nick>]) -- If <nick> is given, replies with what notes are waiting on <nick>, otherwise, replies with the nicks that have notes waiting for them.
  58. # [04:33] <MikeSmith> @help tell
  59. # [04:33] <pimpbot> MikeSmith: (tell <nick> <text>) -- Tells <nick> <text> the next time <nick> is in seen. <nick> can contain wildcard characters, and the first matching nick will be given the note.
  60. # [04:38] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9512] 4.6.5: the cite element when a person's name is the work's name <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0169.html> ** [Bug 9511] 4.2.5.1 keywords: strip spaces at separation comma <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0168.html>
  61. # [05:04] <pimpbot> planet: How fast anticipate is HTML5 going to be widespread? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2642361/how-fast-anticipate-is-html5-going-to-be-widespread>
  62. # [05:39] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9473] add wording to explicitly indicate that option/@selected cannot be used unless as a descendant of select/@multiple <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0170.html>
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  67. # [08:05] <pimpbot> planet: How fast anticipate is HTML5 going to be widespread? [closed] <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2642361/how-fast-anticipate-is-html5-going-to-be-widespread>
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  75. # [08:39] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9517] Homogenize linkage of external sources <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0173.html> ** [Bug 9516] space characters <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0172.html> ** [Bug 9514] Specify Selection.modify() <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0171.html>
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  78. # [09:09] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9511] 4.2.5.1 keywords: strip spaces at separation comma <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0180.html> ** [Bug 9522] Window Object <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0179.html> ** [Bug 9521] Window Object <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0178.html> ** [Bug 9505] Immutable checkbox, radio and file input types should not suffer fr
  79. # [09:29] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: sideshowbarker * r555 /trunk/relaxng/media.rnc:
  80. # [09:29] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: figcaption content model phrasing -> flow (whatwg r5054)
  81. # [09:29] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=5053&to=5054
  82. # [09:29] <pimpbot> Title: HTML5 Revision Tracker (at html5.org)
  83. # [09:40] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9524] New: "...the user agent is 7configured to block access" s/7// <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0182.html> ** [Bug 9523] <figcaption> should allow <p>s (change content model to flow) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0181.html>
  84. # [09:40] <pimpbot> changes: websocket; hixie: Make <figcaption> accept flow again. Also clarify an exception handling case that was ambiguous. (whatwg r5054) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0248.html> ** hixie: Make <figcaption> accept flow again. Also clarify an exception handling case that was ambiguous. (whatwg r5054) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0247.html>
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  88. # [10:10] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9389] add location change event <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0183.html>
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  92. # [10:38] <pimpbot> Stevef: Sent 1 day, 3 hours, and 32 minutes ago: <MikeSmith> please ping me when you get back around -- would like to talk more with you and Josh about missing-alt handling in conformance checkers
  93. # [10:40] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9525] WHat happens when a browser supports both XHTML and HTML? Which has precedence? There should be a decision chart leading to this point with defaults for missing elements then something to say what you use if you support both and the Web page is missing w <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0191.html> ** [Bug 6684] Disregard of RFC 4329 and IANA MIME Media Types <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/p
  94. # [10:40] <pimpbot> changes: websocket; hixie: typo (whatwg r5056) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0250.html> ** mike: restrict content of button and th to phrasing, allow flow in figcaption <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0249.html>
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  99. # [11:06] <pimpbot> planet: Ogg (theora / vorbis) playback in Firefox 3.6 <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2420967/ogg-theora-vorbis-playback-in-firefox-3-6> ** HTML5 video (mp4 and ogv) problems in Safari and Firefox - but Chrome is all good <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2643447/html5-video-mp4-and-ogv-problems-in-safari-and-firefox-but-chrome-is-all-good>
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  104. # [12:36] <pimpbot> planet: HTML to Atom <http://intertwingly.net/blog/2010/04/15/HTML-to-Atom> ** HTML 5 <video> tag vs Flash video. What are the pros and cons? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1086886/html-5-video-tag-vs-flash-video-what-are-the-pros-and-cons> ** A good pdf for HTML5 <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2644223/a-good-pdf-for-html5>
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  108. # [12:53] * Topic is 'The Web platform is drinking your milkshake.'
  109. # [12:53] * Set by MikeSmith on Wed Apr 14 11:54:40
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  111. # [13:10] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9528] New: tags and syntax <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0193.html> ** [Bug 9527] New: tags and syntax <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0192.html>
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  113. # [13:36] <pimpbot> planet: html5 video secure streaming? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2644811/html5-video-secure-streaming>
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  117. # [14:41] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9529] New: output element reset algorithm should set value mode flag to default _before_ setting textContent <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0194.html>
  118. # [15:11] <pimpbot> changes: sam: Link to another change proposal for issue-88 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0251.html>
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  122. # [15:37] <pimpbot> planet: HTML5 articles and sections: what’s the difference? <http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2010/html5-articles-and-sections-whats-the-difference/>
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  128. # [16:05] <hsivonen> hmm. Fingerprinting by installed fonts seems like a tough problem to mitigate: https://panopticlick.eff.org/
  129. # [16:05] <pimpbot> Title: Panopticlick (at panopticlick.eff.org)
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  140. # [16:41] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9530] New: Validity of meta "pragmas" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0195.html>
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  152. # [18:02] <dsinger> zakim, who is here?
  153. # [18:02] <janina> zakim, call janina
  154. # [18:02] <dsinger> invite zakim
  155. # [18:02] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
  156. # [18:02] <dsinger> invite rrsagent
  157. # [18:02] <dsinger> invite trackbot
  158. # [18:02] <janina> zakim, call janina
  159. # [18:03] * dsinger hm, we seem detached from the usual infrastructure
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  161. # [18:03] <janina> zakim, this will be html-wg
  162. # [18:03] <janina> zakim, this will be html
  163. # [18:03] <Julian> Zakim, who's on the phone?
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  165. # [18:03] <janina> zakim, this will be html
  166. # [18:03] <Zakim> html matches both HTML_WG()12:00PM and WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM
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  168. # [18:04] <janina> zakim, this will be html_w
  169. # [18:04] <Zakim> ok, janina, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  170. # [18:04] <mjs> good morning
  171. # [18:04] <janina> zakim, call janina
  172. # [18:04] <dsinger> zakim, who is here?
  173. # [18:04] <Zakim> +Eliot_Graff
  174. # [18:04] <Zakim> ok, janina; the call is being made
  175. # [18:04] <Julian> Zakim, who's on the phone?
  176. # [18:04] <Zakim> On the phone I see Julian, [Apple], [Microsoft], [IPcaller], Michael_Cooper, mjs, Radhika_Roy, Eliot_Graff
  177. # [18:04] <Zakim> On IRC I see rubys, Zakim, Eliot_Graff, aroben, janina, MichaelC, paulc, Mark, adrianba, dsinger, MikeSmith, tlr, kliehm, miketaylr, plh, myakura, krijnh, ROBOd, arronei, mjs,
  178. # [18:04] <dsinger> zakim, [apple] has dsinger
  179. # [18:04] <Zakim> ... Julian, drry, Lachy_, Lachy, gsnedders, tH, scotfl, phenny, shepazu, inimino, Shunsuke, syp, Philip, jgraham, gavin, hober, Hixie, thugbot, RRSAgent, Yudai, pimpbot, Dashiva,
  180. # [18:04] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
  181. # [18:04] <Zakim> ... jmb, johndrinkwater, CIA-1, webben, hsivonen, trackbot
  182. # [18:04] <Zakim> +Janina
  183. # [18:04] <Zakim> On the phone I see Julian, [Apple], [Microsoft], [IPcaller], Michael_Cooper, mjs, Radhika_Roy, Eliot_Graff, Janina (muted)
  184. # [18:04] <janina> zakim, drop janina
  185. # [18:04] * plh zakim, call plh-mobile
  186. # [18:04] <Zakim> +dsinger; got it
  187. # [18:04] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
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  189. # [18:04] <Zakim> Janina is being disconnected
  190. # [18:04] <Zakim> -Janina
  191. # [18:04] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
  192. # [18:04] <janina> zakim, call janina
  193. # [18:04] <Zakim> +Plh
  194. # [18:04] <Zakim> ok, janina; the call is being made
  195. # [18:04] <Zakim> +Janina
  196. # [18:05] * plh zakim, mute me
  197. # [18:05] * Zakim Plh should now be muted
  198. # [18:05] <paulc> Good morning.
  199. # [18:05] <janina> zakim, drop janina
  200. # [18:05] <Zakim> Janina is being disconnected
  201. # [18:05] <Zakim> -Janina
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  203. # [18:05] <Zakim> +Sam
  204. # [18:05] <janina> zakim, code?
  205. # [18:05] <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), janina
  206. # [18:05] <Zakim> +adrianba
  207. # [18:05] * Quits: kliehm (kliehm@94.219.122.63) (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.3/20100401080539])
  208. # [18:05] <Zakim> +Janina_Sajka
  209. # [18:06] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
  210. # [18:06] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference
  211. # [18:06] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  212. # [18:06] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
  213. # [18:06] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be HTML
  214. # [18:06] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  215. # [18:06] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  216. # [18:06] <trackbot> Date: 15 April 2010
  217. # [18:06] <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2010AprJun/0002.html
  218. # [18:06] <pimpbot> Title: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2010-04-15: Action items, issues, decision policy, task forces, TPAC from Sam Ruby on 2010-04-14 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from April to June 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
  219. # [18:06] <cyns> zakim, who is on the call?
  220. # [18:06] <Zakim> On the phone I see Julian, [Apple], [Microsoft], [IPcaller], Michael_Cooper, mjs, Radhika_Roy, Eliot_Graff, Plh (muted), Sam, adrianba, Janina_Sajka
  221. # [18:06] <Zakim> [Apple] has dsinger
  222. # [18:06] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
  223. # [18:06] * Joins: Dzung_Tran (chatzilla@134.134.137.71)
  224. # [18:06] <cyns> IPcaller is me
  225. # [18:06] <cyns> Zakim, IPcaller is me
  226. # [18:06] <Zakim> +cyns; got it
  227. # [18:07] <paulc> 1. ACTION items due by Thu Apr 15
  228. # [18:07] <paulc> Topic: 1. ACTION items due by Thu Apr 15
  229. # [18:07] <Dzung_Tran> Present+ Dzung_Tran
  230. # [18:07] * Joins: krisk (836b005e@128.30.52.43)
  231. # [18:07] <paulc> Action-165?
  232. # [18:07] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-165
  233. # [18:07] <trackbot> ACTION-165 -- Richard Schwerdtfeger to draft a proposal for accessibility of canvas due 25 Feb 2010 -- due 2010-04-15 -- OPEN
  234. # [18:07] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/165
  235. # [18:07] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-165 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  236. # [18:07] <paulc> No discussion or objection to closing.
  237. # [18:07] * janina I've got a lot of line noise. I'm dropping and dialing back in.
  238. # [18:07] <Zakim> -Janina_Sajka
  239. # [18:07] <paulc> Close ACTION-165
  240. # [18:07] * trackbot attempting to close ACTION-165.
  241. # [18:07] <trackbot> ACTION-165 Draft a proposal for accessibility of canvas due 25 Feb 2010 closed
  242. # [18:08] <paulc> Action-138?
  243. # [18:08] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-138
  244. # [18:08] <trackbot> ACTION-138 -- Steve Faulkner to produce an ARIA matrix based on Henri's work -- due 2010-04-15 -- OPEN
  245. # [18:08] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/138
  246. # [18:08] * Joins: Laura (lauracarls@131.212.98.217)
  247. # [18:08] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-138 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  248. # [18:08] <Zakim> +Janina_Sajka
  249. # [18:08] * Quits: tlr (tlr@128.30.52.169) (Quit: tlr)
  250. # [18:08] <paulc> No discussion or objection to closing.
  251. # [18:08] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  252. # [18:09] <paulc> This duplicates the bug 9326 that was created.
  253. # [18:09] <pimpbot> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9326 cyns@microsoft.com, P1, RESOLVED NEEDSINFO, HTML elements mapping to ARIA and A11y APIs
  254. # [18:09] <Zakim> +Laura
  255. # [18:09] <paulc> Cynthia agrees to close.
  256. # [18:09] <paulc> Close action-138.
  257. # [18:09] <paulc> close action-138
  258. # [18:09] * trackbot attempting to close ACTION-138.
  259. # [18:09] <trackbot> ACTION-138 Produce an ARIA matrix based on Henri's work closed
  260. # [18:09] <paulc> action-29?
  261. # [18:09] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-29
  262. # [18:09] <trackbot> ACTION-29 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to follow up on the idea of a free-software-compatible license for a note on HTML authoring -- due 2010-04-15 -- OPEN
  263. # [18:09] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/29
  264. # [18:09] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-29 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  265. # [18:10] * plh zakim, unmute me
  266. # [18:10] * Zakim Plh should no longer be muted
  267. # [18:10] <paulc> plh: There have been PSIG discussion about a proposed new license.
  268. # [18:10] <paulc> plh: Scott Peterson wants to send an alternate proposal.
  269. # [18:11] <paulc> plh: PSIG discussion are ongoing.
  270. # [18:11] <paulc> Action-29 due 2010-04-29
  271. # [18:11] * trackbot attempting to change due date on ACTION-29.
  272. # [18:11] <trackbot> ACTION-29 Follow up on the idea of a free-software-compatible license for a note on HTML authoring due date now 2010-04-29
  273. # [18:11] <paulc> Action-175?
  274. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-175
  275. # [18:11] <trackbot> ACTION-175 -- Julian Reschke to follow-up on defining and extending the profile attribute -- due 2010-04-15 -- OPEN
  276. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/175
  277. # [18:11] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-175 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  278. # [18:11] * plh zakim, mute me
  279. # [18:11] * Zakim Plh should now be muted
  280. # [18:12] <paulc> Sam: Followup is now on the Chairs.
  281. # [18:12] <krisk> zakim, [Microsoft.a] is krisk
  282. # [18:12] <Zakim> +krisk; got it
  283. # [18:12] <paulc> No objection to closing ACTION-175.
  284. # [18:12] <paulc> close action-175
  285. # [18:12] * trackbot attempting to close ACTION-175.
  286. # [18:12] <trackbot> ACTION-175 Follow-up on defining and extending the profile attribute closed
  287. # [18:12] <paulc> action-177?
  288. # [18:12] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-177
  289. # [18:12] <trackbot> ACTION-177 -- Cynthia Shelly to open a bug about HTML elements mapping to ARIA and A11y APIs -- due 2010-04-15 -- OPEN
  290. # [18:12] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/177
  291. # [18:12] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-177 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  292. # [18:12] <paulc> Bug number is but 9326
  293. # [18:13] <paulc> close action-177
  294. # [18:13] * trackbot attempting to close ACTION-177.
  295. # [18:13] <trackbot> ACTION-177 Open a bug about HTML elements mapping to ARIA and A11y APIs closed
  296. # [18:13] <rubys> s/but 9326/bug 9326/
  297. # [18:13] <paulc> bug 9326
  298. # [18:13] <paulc> action-178?
  299. # [18:13] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-178
  300. # [18:13] <trackbot> ACTION-178 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to contact the various chairs/co-chairs to resolve the use of the text/html mime type -- due 2010-04-08 -- OPEN
  301. # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/178
  302. # [18:13] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-178 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  303. # [18:13] * plh zakim, mute me
  304. # [18:13] * Zakim Plh was already muted, plh
  305. # [18:13] * plh zakim, unmute me
  306. # [18:13] * Zakim Plh should no longer be muted
  307. # [18:14] <paulc> plh: discussion is still ongoing in the bug?
  308. # [18:14] <plh> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8321
  309. # [18:14] <pimpbot> 8321: julian.reschke@gmx.de, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, change controller for HTML media type
  310. # [18:14] <paulc> sam: groups external to W3C are suggesting to use the html MIME type for other purposes.
  311. # [18:14] <paulc> plh: Ah, no progress.
  312. # [18:15] <MikeSmith> zakim, call Mike
  313. # [18:15] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
  314. # [18:15] <Zakim> +Mike
  315. # [18:15] <paulc> Action-178 due 2010-04-29
  316. # [18:15] * trackbot attempting to change due date on ACTION-178.
  317. # [18:15] <trackbot> ACTION-178 Contact the various chairs/co-chairs to resolve the use of the text/html mime type due date now 2010-04-29
  318. # [18:15] <paulc> Topic: 2. Issues with deadlines due by April 15:
  319. # [18:15] <paulc> Issue-9 deferred to TF report.
  320. # [18:16] <paulc> Issue-27: rel-ownership
  321. # [18:16] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-27.
  322. # [18:16] <trackbot> ISSUE-27 @rel value ownership, registry consideration notes added
  323. # [18:16] <paulc> Held up on lack of registry. Do we omit testing or wait for a new date?
  324. # [18:17] * plh zakim, mute me
  325. # [18:17] * Zakim Plh should now be muted
  326. # [18:17] <paulc> Paul: Not on the critical path given the number of other issues.
  327. # [18:17] <paulc> Maciej: Relevant people not on the call. Take to email.
  328. # [18:17] <paulc> Issue-94: webcoresplit
  329. # [18:17] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-94.
  330. # [18:17] <trackbot> ISSUE-94 Split Web Application Core and UA specific elements into separate spec notes added
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  332. # [18:18] <paulc> Since the proposal does not contain sufficient detail the proposal is to close Issue-94 (without prejudice).
  333. # [18:18] <paulc> No objection from meeting participants.
  334. # [18:18] <paulc> close issue-94
  335. # [18:18] * trackbot attempting to close ISSUE-94.
  336. # [18:18] <trackbot> ISSUE-94 Split Web Application Core and UA specific elements into separate spec closed
  337. # [18:19] <rubys> issue-94: closed without prejudice
  338. # [18:19] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-94.
  339. # [18:19] <trackbot> ISSUE-94 Split Web Application Core and UA specific elements into separate spec notes added
  340. # [18:19] * dsinger colon? semi-colon? delimiter or terminator? :-)
  341. # [18:19] <paulc> Topic: 3. WG Decision Policy update (Maciej)
  342. # [18:19] <paulc> Maciej: no changes since the last update. currently working on more changes.
  343. # [18:20] <paulc> Maciej: ETA for full completion of proposed text is at least a month away.
  344. # [18:20] <paulc> Then the WG would have to be asked for consenus on the revised policy.
  345. # [18:21] <paulc> Topic: 4. Items that close next week (by Thu Apr 22)
  346. # [18:21] <paulc> Issue-82?
  347. # [18:21] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-82
  348. # [18:21] <trackbot> ISSUE-82 -- Suggested replacement for head/@profile does not provide for disambiguation -- OPEN
  349. # [18:21] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/82
  350. # [18:21] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-82 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  351. # [18:21] <paulc> Topic: 5. New Calls for Proposals/Counter Proposals/Consensus this Week
  352. # [18:21] <paulc> Noe initiated calls but there are five issues that are close.
  353. # [18:21] <paulc> Issue-56?
  354. # [18:21] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-56
  355. # [18:21] <trackbot> ISSUE-56 -- Bring "URLs" section/definition and IRI specification in alignment. -- OPEN
  356. # [18:21] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/56
  357. # [18:21] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-56 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  358. # [18:22] <paulc> Issue-82?
  359. # [18:22] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-82
  360. # [18:22] <trackbot> ISSUE-82 -- Suggested replacement for head/@profile does not provide for disambiguation -- OPEN
  361. # [18:22] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/82
  362. # [18:22] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-82 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  363. # [18:22] <paulc> Issue-86?
  364. # [18:22] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-86
  365. # [18:22] <trackbot> ISSUE-86 -- HTML5 relaxes Atom requirement on atom:id stability -- OPEN
  366. # [18:22] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/86
  367. # [18:22] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-86 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  368. # [18:22] <paulc> issue-88?
  369. # [18:22] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-88
  370. # [18:22] <trackbot> ISSUE-88 -- Should meta/@content allow a list of languages instead of just a single language? -- OPEN
  371. # [18:22] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/88
  372. # [18:22] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-88 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  373. # [18:22] <paulc> issue-107?
  374. # [18:22] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-107
  375. # [18:22] <trackbot> ISSUE-107 -- Politics in fallback example for plugin usage -- RAISED
  376. # [18:22] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/107
  377. # [18:22] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-107 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  378. # [18:22] <paulc> Issue-88 and issue-107 are different. We might need a poll for issue-88.
  379. # [18:23] <paulc> Topic: 6. New Issues This Week
  380. # [18:23] <paulc> Issue-109?
  381. # [18:23] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-109
  382. # [18:23] <trackbot> ISSUE-109 -- change ARIA section title and add extra text about use of ARIA -- RAISED
  383. # [18:23] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/109
  384. # [18:23] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-109 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  385. # [18:23] <paulc> issue-110?
  386. # [18:23] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-110
  387. # [18:23] <trackbot> ISSUE-110 -- Change Control for text/html-sandboxed media type -- RAISED
  388. # [18:23] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/110
  389. # [18:23] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-110 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  390. # [18:23] <paulc> Topic: 6. New Issues This Week
  391. # [18:23] <paulc> Testing Task Force report:
  392. # [18:23] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Apr/0470.html
  393. # [18:23] <pimpbot> Title: HTML WG telcon 2010-04-15 - Testing Task Force Information from Kris Krueger on 2010-04-15 (public-html@w3.org from April 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
  394. # [18:24] <rubys> s/Topic: 6. New Issues This Week/7. Task Force Status Reports /
  395. # [18:24] <paulc> KrisK: report on list and wants to make sure TF is heading in the right direction.
  396. # [18:24] <paulc> KrisK: TF is starting process to "approve" test cases.
  397. # [18:24] <paulc> KrisK: Wants to make sure that the WG is aware of this status.
  398. # [18:25] * plh btw, Richard Ishida has started to generate html5 tests for i18n http://www.w3.org/International/tests/tests-html-css/list-language
  399. # [18:25] <paulc> KrisK: Trying to approve tests as they come in so there is NOT a big backlog.
  400. # [18:25] <paulc> KrisK: People can open bugzilla bugs on the test suite and the TF will process these bugs.
  401. # [18:25] <paulc> KrisK: TF needs more people to participate.
  402. # [18:26] <paulc> Topic: Accessibility TF report
  403. # [18:26] <paulc> Issue-9?
  404. # [18:26] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-9
  405. # [18:26] <trackbot> ISSUE-9 -- how accessibility works for <video> is unclear -- RAISED
  406. # [18:26] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/9
  407. # [18:26] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-9 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  408. # [18:27] <paulc> JS: TF will give revised deadline on April 29.
  409. # [18:27] <paulc> Issue-30?
  410. # [18:27] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-30
  411. # [18:27] <trackbot> ISSUE-30 -- Should HTML 5 include a longdesc attribute for images -- OPEN
  412. # [18:27] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/30
  413. # [18:27] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-30 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  414. # [18:27] <paulc> JS: on track to be delivered to WG next week.
  415. # [18:28] <paulc> Issue-31?
  416. # [18:28] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-31
  417. # [18:28] <trackbot> ISSUE-31 -- What to do when a reasonable text equivalent is unknown/unavailable? -- OPEN
  418. # [18:28] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/31
  419. # [18:28] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-31 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  420. # [18:28] <paulc> JS: on track to be delivered to WG next week.
  421. # [18:28] <paulc> issue-32?
  422. # [18:28] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-32
  423. # [18:28] <trackbot> ISSUE-32 -- how to provide a summary of a table, e.g. for unsighted navigation? -- OPEN
  424. # [18:28] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/32
  425. # [18:28] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-32 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  426. # [18:28] <paulc> JS: TF will deliver either their position or a revised deadline on April 29.
  427. # [18:28] <paulc> Cynthia: Probably a deadline will be delivered.
  428. # [18:28] <paulc> issue-66?
  429. # [18:28] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-66
  430. # [18:28] <trackbot> ISSUE-66 -- image analysis heuristics -- OPEN
  431. # [18:28] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/66
  432. # [18:28] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-66 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  433. # [18:28] <paulc> JS: ont rack to be delivered to the WG next week.
  434. # [18:29] <paulc> issue-74?
  435. # [18:29] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-74
  436. # [18:29] <trackbot> ISSUE-74 -- How accessibility works for <canvas> is unclear. -- OPEN
  437. # [18:29] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/74
  438. # [18:29] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-74 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  439. # [18:29] <paulc> JS: TF will provide revised deadline for the remaining portions on April 29
  440. # [18:29] <paulc> issue-80?
  441. # [18:29] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-80
  442. # [18:29] <trackbot> ISSUE-80 -- document conformance and device dependent display of title attribute content -- OPEN
  443. # [18:29] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/80
  444. # [18:29] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-80 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  445. # [18:29] <paulc> JS: On track to be delivered to the WG next week.
  446. # [18:29] <paulc> issue-85?
  447. # [18:29] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-85
  448. # [18:29] <trackbot> ISSUE-85 -- ARIA roles added to the a element should be conforming in HTML5 -- OPEN
  449. # [18:29] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/85
  450. # [18:29] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-85 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  451. # [18:30] <paulc> JS: Looking for help from Syliva?
  452. # [18:30] <paulc> JS: Not sure of the status?
  453. # [18:30] <paulc> JS: I meant Cynthia, sorry?
  454. # [18:31] <paulc> Sam: There is a change proposal. We need TF to endorse or give other advice.
  455. # [18:31] <paulc> JS: TF will provide a revised deadline on April 29.
  456. # [18:31] <paulc> Next two issues are relatively new.
  457. # [18:31] <paulc> Action-105?
  458. # [18:31] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-105
  459. # [18:31] <trackbot> ACTION-105 -- Sam Ruby to should arrange a meeting between chairs of HTML WG and XHTML2 WG to ensure there is a plan for coordination of vocabularies to avoid incompatibilities. -- due 2009-07-02 -- CLOSED
  460. # [18:31] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/105
  461. # [18:31] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-105 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  462. # [18:32] <paulc> JS: TF will provide a revised deadline on April 29.
  463. # [18:32] <paulc> issue-109?
  464. # [18:32] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-109
  465. # [18:32] <trackbot> ISSUE-109 -- change ARIA section title and add extra text about use of ARIA -- RAISED
  466. # [18:32] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/109
  467. # [18:32] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-109 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  468. # [18:32] <paulc> JS: TF will provide a revised deadline on April 29.
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  472. # [18:32] <paulc> Sam: Any other items to report from the TF.
  473. # [18:33] <paulc> JS: The TF had a good F2F and that has boosted the work.
  474. # [18:33] <paulc> Cynthia: many of the items to be delivered next week were done at the F2F.
  475. # [18:33] <paulc> JS: The F2F covered other items now.
  476. # [18:33] <Zakim> +cardona507
  477. # [18:33] <paulc> JS: There is a TF survey running now that closes midnight Boston time tonight.
  478. # [18:33] <cardona507> Zakim, mute me
  479. # [18:33] <Zakim> cardona507 should now be muted
  480. # [18:34] <cardona507> just joining on IRC and phone - good morning
  481. # [18:34] <paulc> JS: Issue-31 is evolving in the TF and the TF is testing solution via a test validator.
  482. # [18:35] <Laura> TF: Proposals from the April 2010 Face to Face meeting: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/44061/200404_ftf-proposals/results
  483. # [18:35] <pimpbot> Title: Results of Questionnaire Call for Consensus: Proposals from the April 2010 Face to Face meeting - Web-Based Straw-poll and Balloting System (at www.w3.org)
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  485. # [18:35] <Laura> pilot implementation of Error reporting for missing alt: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Apr/0165.html
  486. # [18:35] <pimpbot> Title: pilot implementation of Error reporting for missing alt from Michael(tm) Smith on 2010-04-15 (public-html-a11y@w3.org from April 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
  487. # [18:35] <paulc> laura: thanks
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  489. # [18:35] <paulc> JS: TF is back to error for missing alt.
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  491. # [18:36] <paulc> Topic: 8 TPAC schedule
  492. # [18:36] <paulc> TPAC2010 is Nov 1-5, Lyon France
  493. # [18:36] <paulc> Proposal is for HTML WG is Thu-Fri Nov 4-5 that week.
  494. # [18:36] <paulc> Technical Plenary is on Wed Nov 3
  495. # [18:37] <paulc> We are estimating 40 attendees (we had 50+ last year with 50 observers).
  496. # [18:37] <paulc> Any comments?
  497. # [18:37] <paulc> None.
  498. # [18:37] <paulc> Topic: Chair and scribe for next meeting
  499. # [18:37] <paulc> Paul is up to chair and Sam will scribe.
  500. # [18:37] <paulc> Topic: 10 Other business
  501. # [18:37] <adrianba> Regrets for next week. I will aim to scribe the week after.
  502. # [18:37] <paulc> None
  503. # [18:38] <paulc> Topic: 11 Adjournment
  504. # [18:38] <paulc> No objections to adjourn.
  505. # [18:38] <Laura> bye
  506. # [18:38] <cardona507> bye
  507. # [18:38] <Zakim> -Radhika_Roy
  508. # [18:38] <Zakim> -Janina_Sajka
  509. # [18:38] <Zakim> -[Apple]
  510. # [18:38] <pimpbot> planet: GWT & HTML5 Video in Mobile Safari <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2609717/gwt-html5-video-in-mobile-safari>
  511. # [18:38] <Zakim> -mjs
  512. # [18:38] <Zakim> -krisk
  513. # [18:38] <Zakim> -Laura
  514. # [18:38] <Zakim> -cyns
  515. # [18:38] <Zakim> -Eliot_Graff
  516. # [18:38] <Zakim> -Plh
  517. # [18:38] <paulc> Meeting adjourned at :36 after the hour.
  518. # [18:38] <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
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  520. # [18:38] <Zakim> -Julian
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  523. # [18:38] <paulc> rssagent, generate minutes
  524. # [18:38] <Zakim> -cardona507
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  526. # [18:39] <adrianba> rrsagent, generate minutes
  527. # [18:39] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/04/15-html-wg-minutes.html adrianba
  528. # [18:39] <Zakim> -adrianba
  529. # [18:40] <adrianba> rrsagent, make logs public
  530. # [18:40] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, adrianba
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  532. # [18:43] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  533. # [18:43] <Zakim> -Mike
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  544. # [19:36] <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, Sam, in HTML_WG()12:00PM
  545. # [19:36] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
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  547. # [19:36] <Zakim> Attendees were Julian, Michael_Cooper, mjs, Radhika_Roy, Eliot_Graff, Janina, dsinger, paulc, Plh, Sam, adrianba, Janina_Sajka, cyns, [Microsoft], Laura, krisk, Mike, cardona507
  548. # [19:38] <pimpbot> planet: Simulate Offline Mode for HTML5 Cache Testing <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2647272/simulate-offline-mode-for-html5-cache-testing>
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  567. # [21:38] <pimpbot> planet: fast forward/streaming in html5 video? RTSP? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2648181/fast-forward-streaming-in-html5-video-rtsp> ** iPad magazine app concept? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2648018/ipad-magazine-app-concept>
  568. # [21:42] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: xref typo (whatwg r5057) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Apr/0252.html>
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  570. # [22:13] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9527] tags and syntax <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0198.html> ** [Bug 9528] tags and syntax <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0197.html> ** [Bug 9514] Specify Selection.modify() <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0196.html>
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  574. # [22:39] <pimpbot> planet: Gmail HTML5 Feature to "drop" attachments <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2648771/gmail-html5-feature-to-drop-attachments>
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