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  35. # [06:43] <pimpbot> planet: HTML 5 Canvas performance <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2662321/html-5-canvas-performance> ** Does HTML 5 Gaming use Canvas and Javascript? How to prevent cheating in this case? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2711072/does-html-5-gaming-use-canvas-and-javascript-how-to-prevent-cheating-in-this-ca>
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  42. # [09:44] <pimpbot> planet: ImageData of an externally loaded Image? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2688987/imagedata-of-an-externally-loaded-image>
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  52. # [10:52] <Stevef> mikesmith: got an error when I added a comment ot a bug on bugzilla (http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9589) something about not being able to send to dav@null. the comment still got processed though, but haven't recieved an email notification as yet, which may be just a delay thing.
  53. # [10:52] <pimpbot> 9589: mjs@apple.com, P2, NEW, HTML5 should give examples for how to present @title when the user can't use a pointing device
  54. # [11:18] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9591] New: itemref should say "HTML elements" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0793.html> ** [Bug 9589] HTML5 should give examples for how to present @title when the user can't use a pointing device <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0792.html>
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  63. # [11:44] <pimpbot> planet: HTML5 Tech Talk @Fukuoka: CSS <http://annevankesteren.nl/2010/04/fukuoka-css>
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  67. # [12:18] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9589] HTML5 should give examples for how to present @title when the user can't use a pointing device <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0794.html>
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  70. # [12:44] <pimpbot> planet: Anne van Kesteren: HTML5 Tech Talk @Fukuoka: CSS <http://annevankesteren.nl/2010/04/fukuoka-css>
  71. # [12:48] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 9589] HTML5 should give examples for how to present @title when the user can't use a pointing device" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0795.html>
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  77. # [13:18] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9592] New: user agents should provide an indication that an image has not been rendered <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0797.html> ** "[Bug 9589] HTML5 should give examples for how to present @title when the user can't use a pointing device" (3 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0796.html>
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  82. # [13:49] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9589] HTML5 should give examples for how to present @title when the user can't use a pointing device <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0798.html>
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  91. # [14:14] <YoklJO> hey
  92. # [14:14] <YoklJO> has anyone here used Pivot before? no? too bad! check this out http://joshua.worth.id.au/pivot.html
  93. # [14:14] <pimpbot> Title: JS Pivot (at joshua.worth.id.au)
  94. # [14:16] <YoklJO> started it like 2 days ago. it has a lot of the features that pivot does (not finished yet). I pretty much had to learn javascript lol. btw it runs almost 50 times faster under chrome than firefox
  95. # [14:19] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9592] user agents should provide an indication that an image has not been rendered <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0799.html>
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  97. # [14:23] <Stevef> js pivot (http://joshua.worth.id.au/pivot.html) contains a nice example of canvas fallback content <canvas style="border: 1px solid;" height="500" width="600" id="can">You need a good browser, like Firefox, Chrome or Safari</canvas> also a canvas based vertical slider widget
  98. # [14:23] <pimpbot> Title: JS Pivot (at joshua.worth.id.au)
  99. # [15:05] <hsivonen> yet another use of <canvas> that would be better as SVG
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  101. # [15:23] <YoklJO> Stevef: yeah, I did the slider today just using what I already knew, since I only really learned JS like 3 days ago. The slider bit uses a line with round caps
  102. # [15:24] <YoklJO> oh another thing, if you right click on a frame thumbnail, a menu pops up
  103. # [15:25] <YoklJO> when you click the menu dissappears, except under windows where you must click twice. yes, thats right, i said under Windows.
  104. # [15:27] <YoklJO> I have tried both Firefox and Chrome under Linux, and Safari on the Mac. They all work properly with the menu, but both Chrome and Firefox under Windows you must click twice to make the menu dissappear
  105. # [15:27] <YoklJO> I am completely baffled
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  107. # [15:45] <pimpbot> planet: Make HTML5 code look beautiful! <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2657658/make-html5-code-look-beautiful>
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  111. # [15:56] <Stevef> YokiJO: can't help you with the right click thing I'm afraid. as far as the slider goes, suggest you use a javascript based slider widget such as http://docs.dojocampus.org/dijit/form/Slider, which has built in keyboard and accessibility support
  112. # [16:01] <YoklJO> thanks for the help :) but I think ill just stick with the current slider
  113. # [16:01] <Stevef> YokiJO: in regards to the canvas fallback content, i was being ironic (apologies). the fallback is supposed to contain an accessible version of the canvas content, if the canvas content itslef cannot be made accessible. But putting fallback of that kind in the canvas is somewhat as waste of time at the moment, as it is only displayed/navigable when canvas is not supported. Anyway if you are...
  114. # [16:01] <Stevef> ...intersted in making your demo more accessible, providing keyboard support for the functionality would be a good start.
  115. # [16:02] <YoklJO> heh alright
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  117. # [16:03] <YoklJO> Well my goal at the moment is basically to clone all the features of Pivot Stickfigure animator, so I'll stick to that for the time being
  118. # [16:06] <Stevef> YokiJO: np
  119. # [16:07] <YoklJO> Oh also, do you know how I would go about preventing the text cursor/selection on stuff like menu items and buttons etc
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  123. # [16:26] <YoklJO> Actually dont worry
  124. # [16:26] <YoklJO> I'm going to bed
  125. # [16:26] <YoklJO> cya
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  135. # [17:45] <pimpbot> planet: HTML 4, HTML 5, XHTML, MIME types - the definitive resource <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2662508/html-4-html-5-xhtml-mime-types-the-definitive-resource>
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  165. # [20:46] <pimpbot> planet: Wysiwyg with image copy/paste <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2008958/wysiwyg-with-image-copy-paste>
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  173. # [22:21] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9593] New: Anchors in spec are not consistent <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Apr/0800.html>
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