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  7. # [00:16] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9887] parsing algorithm should allow HTML content in MathML <annotation-xml> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jun/0207.html>
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  10. # [00:42] <pimpbot> planet: ContentEditable DIV - disabling drag and drop <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3033130/contenteditable-div-disabling-drag-and-drop>
  11. # [00:44] <webben> Is it normal to receive no response to a W3C Invited Expert Application to HTML WG?
  12. # [00:45] <webben> (after more than a month)
  13. # [00:45] <webben> Does no response mean a rejection?
  14. # [00:46] <webben> Vaguely @ MikeSmith I guess.
  15. # [00:46] <MikeSmith> webben: no, not normal
  16. # [00:46] <MikeSmith> unless I missed the notification
  17. # [00:46] <MikeSmith> but I can check on it now
  18. # [00:47] <MikeSmith> is this an application you submitted yourself?
  19. # [00:47] <webben> Yep
  20. # [00:47] <MikeSmith> OK, lemme check now
  21. # [00:47] <webben> Thanks! :)
  22. # [00:50] <MikeSmith> webben: I do remember seeing your app now
  23. # [00:50] <MikeSmith> April 25
  24. # [00:50] <MikeSmith> and I thought I processed it
  25. # [00:50] <MikeSmith> but I'm checking again
  26. # [00:51] <MikeSmith> (sorry I am also scribing on a telcon here at the same time)
  27. # [00:52] <webben> MikeSmith: Oh please feel free to check at a more convenient time for you - there's no huge rush, just wanted to chase up on it.
  28. # [00:52] <MikeSmith> if I wait, I may forget to get back to it :)
  29. # [00:53] <MikeSmith> webben: Ok, done
  30. # [00:54] <MikeSmith> sorry, not sure how I missed processing that when I got it
  31. # [00:54] <MikeSmith> but you should be good to go now
  32. # [00:55] <webben> awesome, thanks very much MikeSmith :)
  33. # [00:56] <MikeSmith> np
  34. # [00:56] <webben> MikeSmith: hmm when I go to http://www.w3.org/2004/01/pp-impl/40318/join it says [not authorized to join] and I can't tick any checkboxes
  35. # [00:57] <webben> MikeSmith: Does it just take time for the system to process the change of status?
  36. # [00:57] <MikeSmith> webben: hmm, maybe
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  45. # [01:47] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9767] Consider ignoring document.write() when IE ignores it if IE has a sane condition for ignoring it <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jun/0208.html>
  46. # [01:47] <MikeSmith> webben: after you try again (in the morning or whenever), if it's still not working, please ping me again
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  51. # [04:43] <pimpbot> planet: IE’s Compatibility Features for Site Developers <http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2010/06/16/ie-s-compatibility-features-for-site-developers.aspx> ** How would I know if I should consider HTML 5 for a specific project? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3058355/how-would-i-know-if-i-should-consider-html-5-for-a-specific-project>
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  67. # [06:44] <pimpbot> planet: What is HTML5 and are there any benefits to it over Flash? [closed] <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3058711/what-is-html5-and-are-there-any-benefits-to-it-over-flash>
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  77. # [09:44] <pimpbot> planet: Sprite-Sheet BLIT with HTML 5 Canvas? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3059522/sprite-sheet-blit-with-html-5-canvas>
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  83. # [11:19] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9767] Consider ignoring document.write() when IE ignores it if comes from the network task source <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jun/0217.html> ** [Bug 9941] New: If a script gets inserted into a document it will "run" and its "already started" flag will be set. How can the conditions of being in a document and child nodes being changed or src attribute being set ever apply? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives
  84. # [11:49] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9887] parsing algorithm should allow HTML content in MathML <annotation-xml> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jun/0218.html>
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  87. # [12:19] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9941] If a script gets inserted into a document it will "run" and its "already started" flag will be set. How can the conditions of being in a document and child nodes being changed or src attribute being set ever apply? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jun/0222.html> ** [Bug 9942] The sentence "The shadowBlur attribute specifies the size of the blurring effect." is misleading, It should say "The shadowBlur a
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  90. # [12:45] <pimpbot> planet: iPad/iPhone HTML5 video loading <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3007797/ipad-iphone-html5-video-loading> ** Thankyous for Introducing HTML5 <http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2010/thankyous-for-introducing-html5/>
  91. # [12:50] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9943] Add a sudoku puzzle as an example table to demonstrate a table without headers. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jun/0224.html> ** [Bug 9887] parsing algorithm should allow HTML content in MathML <annotation-xml> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jun/0223.html>
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  114. # [14:46] <pimpbot> planet: Adding h.264 <video> support to XULRunner <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3061518/adding-h-264-video-support-to-xulrunner>
  115. # [15:46] <pimpbot> planet: <audio> elements not working on WordPress <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3061829/audio-elements-not-working-on-wordpress> ** Sencha Touch: The end of native; A new touch framework for the Web <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ajaxian/~3/G_ieUAxoyUM/sencha-touch> ** AViewer beta <http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/?p=635>
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  125. # [16:47] <pimpbot> planet: iPad: Mobile Safari, HTML5 <video>, and jquery transitions <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3046293/ipad-mobile-safari-html5-video-and-jquery-transitions> ** Animated GIF in HTML5 canvas <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3062229/animated-gif-in-html5-canvas> ** Should I not use those XHTML elements/tags/attributes which will not be in the HTML 5 spec? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3050290/should-i-not-use-those-xhtml-elem
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  137. # [17:47] <pimpbot> planet: How do I disable auto- poster image generation on the video tag? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3062915/how-do-i-disable-auto-poster-image-generation-on-the-video-tag>
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  143. # [18:01] <mjs> hi all
  144. # [18:01] <paulc> hi
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  146. # [18:01] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
  147. # [18:01] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference
  148. # [18:01] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  149. # [18:01] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  151. # [18:01] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be HTML
  152. # [18:01] <Zakim> HTML matches both WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM and HTML_WG()12:00PM
  153. # [18:02] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  154. # [18:02] <trackbot> Date: 17 June 2010
  155. # [18:02] <rubys> zakim, this will be HTML_WG
  156. # [18:02] <Zakim> ok, rubys, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  157. # [18:02] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
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  159. # [18:02] <Eliot> zakim, [Microsoft.a] is me
  160. # [18:02] <Zakim> +Eliot; got it
  161. # [18:02] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
  162. # [18:02] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  163. # [18:02] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  164. # [18:02] <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft.a] has adrianba
  165. # [18:02] <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
  166. # [18:02] <rubys> scribe: rubys
  167. # [18:02] <Zakim> +Bryan_Sullivan
  168. # [18:03] <Zakim> +Radhika_Roy
  169. # [18:03] <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2010AprJun/0020.html
  170. # [18:03] <pimpbot> Title: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2010-06-17: actions, issues, publication status from Maciej Stachowiak on 2010-06-16 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from April to June 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
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  174. # [18:06] <paulc> We have 20+ people on IRC
  175. # [18:06] * rubys maciej: you are clear
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  178. # [18:06] <rubys> topic: 1. ACTIONS due this week
  179. # [18:07] <rubys> mjs: we should wait on plh
  180. # [18:07] * plh zakim, call plh-work
  181. # [18:07] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
  182. # [18:07] <Zakim> +Plh
  183. # [18:07] <rubys> action-29?
  184. # [18:07] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-29
  185. # [18:07] <trackbot> ACTION-29 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to follow up on the idea of a free-software-compatible license for a note on HTML authoring -- due 2010-06-17 -- OPEN
  186. # [18:07] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/29
  187. # [18:07] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-29 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  188. # [18:07] <Zakim> +Julian_Reschke
  189. # [18:07] <rubys> plh: the psig came agreement on wording on the license, and are working on a FAQ.
  190. # [18:08] <rubys> plh: the remaining item is to verify that the license is GPL compliant, and will likely be checking with Eben
  191. # [18:08] <Zakim> +Laura_Carlson
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  193. # [18:08] <rubys> plh: I would suggest a checkpoint in two weeks.
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  195. # [18:09] <janina> zakim, call janina
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  197. # [18:09] <Dzung_Tran> Present+ Dzung_Tran
  198. # [18:09] <Zakim> ok, janina; the call is being made
  199. # [18:09] <Zakim> +Janina
  200. # [18:09] <MikeSmith> zakim, call Mike
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  202. # [18:09] <rubys> mjs: OK. It would be helpful to send a link to the working group with the license text once it becomes available.
  203. # [18:09] <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper
  204. # [18:09] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
  205. # [18:09] <Zakim> +Mike
  206. # [18:09] <rubys> topic: 2. Items that close this week (by Thu Jun 10)
  207. # [18:09] <rubys> mjs: none
  208. # [18:09] <rubys> topic: 3. New Issues This Week
  209. # [18:09] <rubys> mjs: none
  210. # [18:10] <rubys> topic: 4. New Calls for Proposals/Counter Proposals/Consensus this week
  211. # [18:10] <rubys> issue-109?
  212. # [18:10] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-109
  213. # [18:10] <trackbot> ISSUE-109 -- change ARIA section title and add extra text about use of ARIA -- open
  214. # [18:10] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/109
  215. # [18:10] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-109 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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  217. # [18:10] <rubys> mjs: originally raised by Steve, the accessibility task force has indicated that they are not interested in taking a position.
  218. # [18:11] <rubys> mjs: so the next step is to call for counter proposals
  219. # [18:11] <rubys> issue-101?
  220. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-101
  221. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-101 -- Spec reference for US-ASCII -- open
  222. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/101
  223. # [18:11] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-101 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  224. # [18:12] <rubys> mjs: there has been a lot of follow up discussion and input. We have an objection which came with a counter-proposal. We are still evaluating whether that counter proposal has the appropriate level of detail
  225. # [18:12] <rubys> ISSUE-105?
  226. # [18:12] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-105
  227. # [18:12] <trackbot> ISSUE-105 -- allow image maps on the canvas element -- open
  228. # [18:12] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/105
  229. # [18:12] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-105 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  230. # [18:12] <rubys> mjs: so far no-one has opposed the idea, if you have input speak up.
  231. # [18:12] <rubys> ISSUE-107?
  232. # [18:12] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-107
  233. # [18:12] <trackbot> ISSUE-107 -- Politics in fallback example for plugin usage -- open
  234. # [18:12] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/107
  235. # [18:12] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-107 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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  237. # [18:13] <rubys> mjs: originally there were two proposals, but one was withdrawn in favor of the second one. If you have any input, now would be the time to speak up.
  238. # [18:13] <rubys> mjs: questions?
  239. # [18:13] <rubys> topic: 5. WG Decision Policy update
  240. # [18:14] <rubys> mjs: we are a little behind, the next target is to have something for WG review by July 15th at the latest. That will include all bugs raised by last month, it may not resolve bugs raised since then.
  241. # [18:14] <rubys> mjs: questions?
  242. # [18:14] <rubys> topic: 6. Heartbeat Working Drafts & First Public Working Drafts
  243. # [18:15] <rubys> mjs: we have 6 heartbeat draft and 2 FPWD, but there is an issue which is blocking publishing.
  244. # [18:15] <rubys> docs include: HTML5, RDFa, Microdata, Canvas, H:TML, diffs, as well as two new documents: polyglot and alt text
  245. # [18:16] <rubys> mjs: the issue remaining concerns the introduction section and what should be said there with respect to the relationship to the WHATWG
  246. # [18:16] <rubys> mjs: questions?
  247. # [18:16] <rubys> s/docs include/mjs: docs include/
  248. # [18:16] <rubys> topic: 7. Nov F2F meeting at TPAC meeting, Lyon, France
  249. # [18:17] <Julian> q+ to remind people of http://www.ietf.org/meeting/78/index.html
  250. # [18:17] * Zakim sees Julian on the speaker queue
  251. # [18:17] <pimpbot> Title: IETF 78 - Maastricht, Netherlands (at www.ietf.org)
  252. # [18:17] <rubys> mjs: registration for TPAC and AC is now open. paulc has sent info to the mailing list
  253. # [18:17] <rubys> paulc: confirms
  254. # [18:17] <paulc> Info on registration for Nov F2F: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jun/0432.html
  255. # [18:17] <pimpbot> Title: RE: HTML WG F2F meeting, Nov 4-5 at TPAC 2010, Lyon, France from Paul Cotton on 2010-06-16 (public-html@w3.org from June 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
  256. # [18:17] <paulc> WG will meet Thu-Fri Nov 4-5 in Lyon France
  257. # [18:18] <paulc> Technical Plenary will be on Wed Nov 3
  258. # [18:18] <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
  259. # [18:18] <rubys> paulc: this will be an all week technical plenary meeting. The advisory committee is also meeting. Wednesday will be a joint meeting.
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  262. # [18:19] <cyns> zakim, who is on the phone?
  263. # [18:19] <Zakim> On the phone I see [Microsoft], Eliot, [Microsoft.a], Bryan_Sullivan (muted), Radhika_Roy, Sam, +1.415.595.aaaa, Plh, Julian_Reschke, Laura_Carlson, Michael_Cooper, Janina, Mike,
  264. # [18:19] <rubys> rubys: the HTML WG will be meeting on thursday and friday; other wgs are meeting on monday/tuesday
  265. # [18:19] <Zakim> ... [IPcaller]
  266. # [18:19] <Zakim> [Microsoft.a] has adrianba
  267. # [18:19] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
  268. # [18:19] <rubys> s/rubys:/paulc:/
  269. # [18:19] <rubys> paulc: the link contains additional information
  270. # [18:19] <cyns> Zakim, IPcaller is me
  271. # [18:19] <Zakim> +cyns; got it
  272. # [18:19] <rubys> mjs: questions or comments?
  273. # [18:19] <mjs> ack Julian
  274. # [18:19] <Zakim> Julian, you wanted to remind people of http://www.ietf.org/meeting/78/index.html
  275. # [18:19] <pimpbot> Title: IETF 78 - Maastricht, Netherlands (at www.ietf.org)
  276. # [18:19] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  277. # [18:20] <rubys> juian: the IETF is meeting at the end of the month and will cover a number of topics of interest to the HTML WG
  278. # [18:20] <rubys> julian: I will send an email once the dates are determined
  279. # [18:21] <rubys> mjs: I encourage wg members to check that out
  280. # [18:21] <adrianba> s/juian/julian/
  281. # [18:21] <rubys> mjs: any other questions or comments?
  282. # [18:21] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 9872] trigger a conformance error when javascript is included in href attribute" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jun/0227.html> ** [Bug 9871] provide normative advice to conformance checkers about use of onevent handler attributes <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jun/0225.html>
  283. # [18:21] <rubys> topic: 8. Other Business
  284. # [18:21] <rubys> mjs: any other topics?
  285. # [18:22] <rubys> topic: 9. Scribe for next meeting
  286. # [18:22] <rubys> mjs: volunteers?
  287. # [18:22] <rubys> paulc: I can do that
  288. # [18:22] <rubys> mjs: thanks!
  289. # [18:22] <rubys> topic: 10. Adjournment
  290. # [18:22] <rubys> mjs: thanks everybody!
  291. # [18:23] <Zakim> -Bryan_Sullivan
  292. # [18:23] <Laura> bye
  293. # [18:23] <Zakim> -Julian_Reschke
  294. # [18:23] <Zakim> - +1.415.595.aaaa
  295. # [18:23] <Zakim> -cyns
  296. # [18:23] <Zakim> -Plh
  297. # [18:23] <Zakim> -Janina
  298. # [18:23] <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
  299. # [18:23] <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
  300. # [18:23] <rubys> rrsagent, publish minutes
  301. # [18:23] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/06/17-html-wg-minutes.html rubys
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  319. # [18:24] <Zakim> Attendees were Eliot, paulc, [Microsoft], adrianba, Bryan_Sullivan, Radhika_Roy, Sam, +1.415.595.aaaa, Plh, Julian_Reschke, Laura_Carlson, Janina, Michael_Cooper, Mike, cyns
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  391. # [23:52] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9948] New: In "Any other end tag" the generate implied end tags should probably be excluding the name of the token otherwise we tend to pop everything off the stack <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jun/0232.html>
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