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  11. # [00:56] <pimpbot> planet: IE9 supports Canvas…. hardware accelerated! <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ajaxian/~3/ibyDyJdKP6k/ie9-supports-canvas-hardware-accelerated> ** Detect the specific iPhone/iPod touch model in Javascript <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3093899/detect-the-specific-iphone-ipod-touch-model-in-javascript>
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  36. # [04:29] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10003] New: In the vCard person's name example, the exclusion of quotes around itemprop=fn is inconsistent with the rest of the examples. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jun/0345.html>
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  42. # [06:58] <pimpbot> planet: Resources & Frameworks for mobile development (iphone,android) using HTML5 <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3031643/resources-frameworks-for-mobile-development-iphone-android-using-html5> ** Improved WebM performance on x86_64 Linux and Win64 <http://blog.pearce.org.nz/2010/06/improved-webm-performance-on-x8664.html>
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  47. # [09:00] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Make the change requested by Sam in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jun/0562.html and revert r4768 in the WHATWG version. (whatwg r5108) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Jun/0087.html>
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  66. # [10:59] <pimpbot> planet: FavBrowser.com: Google Launches HTML5 Rocks Web Site <http://www.favbrowser.com/google-launches-html5-rocks-web-site/>
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  68. # [11:31] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9241] Explicitly state, "For guidance on accessibility requirements for text alternatives authors should consult WCAG 2.0" and link to WCAG 2.0 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jun/0346.html>
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  79. # [12:59] <pimpbot> planet: Is there a way to use DRM on HTML5 video? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2983555/is-there-a-way-to-use-drm-on-html5-video>
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  98. # [13:59] <pimpbot> planet: ExtensionFM: A case study on a sexy app, turn extension <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ajaxian/~3/mEU4-x-acl4/extensionfm-a-case-study-on-a-sexy-app-turn-extension>
  99. # [14:01] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10006] New: clearTimeout/clearInterval are not clear what the behaviour should be if handle is not in the list <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jun/0347.html>
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  117. # [17:00] <pimpbot> planet: Video: the track element and webM codec <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/html5doctor/~3/ipfQBqbXmpo/>
  118. # [17:02] <pimpbot> changes: sam: Link to Leif's change proposal for 101 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Jun/0088.html>
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  126. # [17:53] <taptapir> is this the right channel for questions about canvas and javascript?
  127. # [17:54] <taptapir> I'll shoot anyway :) http://pastebin.com/udHCxTAH -> in this code, won't the application halt until the image is loaded?
  128. # [17:54] <taptapir> and why is "cat.src" is after the "cat.onload"? it seems strange coming from a C background where everything is designed top-down. thanks.
  129. # [17:54] <pimpbot> Title: var canvas = docum - Anonymous - udHCxTAH - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
  130. # [17:54] <Philip> taptapir: It's not the wrong channel, though it's not necessarily the most active channel
  131. # [17:55] <Philip> taptapir: Where would the application halt?
  132. # [17:55] <taptapir> while downloading the image?
  133. # [17:56] <Philip> The script will set up the image then reach the end and return control, and in the background the browser will download the image and once it's down it'll call the onload handler
  134. # [17:56] <Philip> It's all asynchronous so it won't ever wait inside the script
  135. # [17:59] <Philip> I think (not with much confidence) some browsers in some cases might call the onload handler as soon as the src attribute is set (e.g. if the image is cached and is already available), so it's safer to set onload before setting src, which is probably why the script does that
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  137. # [17:59] <taptapir> I see. what happens when I have lots of images then?
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  139. # [17:59] <Philip> (though I believe HTML5 requires that onload won't be called until after the current script has finished executing)
  140. # [17:59] <taptapir> downloading will surely take some time right?
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  142. # [18:00] <taptapir> and since it's all async, the application won't halt right?
  143. # [18:00] <Philip> If you have lots, you'd probably want to create all the Image objects at once and give them each an onload that counts whether this is the last image to have been loaded, and if it's the last then you do whatever you wanted to do
  144. # [18:00] <pimpbot> planet: Web Sockets questions <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3092313/web-sockets-questions>
  145. # [18:01] <mjs> good morning
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  147. # [18:01] <rubys> morning
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  149. # [18:01] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
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  156. # [18:01] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be HTML
  157. # [18:01] <Zakim> HTML matches both WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM and HTML_WG()12:00PM
  158. # [18:01] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  159. # [18:01] <trackbot> Date: 24 June 2010
  160. # [18:01] <rubys> zakim, this will be HTML_WG
  161. # [18:01] <Zakim> ok, rubys, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  162. # [18:01] <Philip> taptapir: It'll only halt if you do lots and lots of computation in the script, or use alert or synchronous XMLHttpRequest etc
  163. # [18:01] <taptapir> Philip: hmm that should work thanks
  164. # [18:02] <Philip> taptapir: Hmm, if you want to continue discussion then I suggest #whatwg on Freenode since it'll get noisy in here for a bit
  165. # [18:02] <Zakim> +Sam
  166. # [18:02] <Julian> Zakim, who's on the phone?
  167. # [18:02] <Zakim> On the phone I see Radhika_Roy, ??P12, Sam
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  169. # [18:02] <Zakim> -??P12
  170. # [18:02] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10009] excellent thank you for all <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jun/0351.html> ** [Bug 10010] excellent!!! thank you for all <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jun/0350.html> ** [Bug 10010] New: excellent!!! thank you for all <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jun/0349.html> ** [Bug 10009] New: excellent thank you for all <http://lis
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  175. # [18:03] <janina> zakim, call janina
  176. # [18:03] <Zakim> ok, janina; the call is being made
  177. # [18:03] <Mark> Mark Foladare (Mark) fro AT&T is on the phone
  178. # [18:03] <Zakim> +Janina
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  181. # [18:04] <paulc> zakim, [Microsft] has paulc
  182. # [18:04] <Zakim> sorry, paulc, I do not recognize a party named '[Microsft]'
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  185. # [18:04] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
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  187. # [18:04] <adrianba> zakim, aabb is me
  188. # [18:04] <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
  189. # [18:04] <paulc> scribe: paulc
  190. # [18:04] <krisk> zakim, [Microsoft.a] is krisk
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  195. # [18:05] <Zakim> +??P27
  196. # [18:06] <MikeSmith> zakim, call Mike
  197. # [18:06] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
  198. # [18:06] <Zakim> +Mike
  199. # [18:06] <Julian> Zakim, +??P27 is me
  200. # [18:06] <Zakim> sorry, Julian, I do not recognize a party named '+??P27'
  201. # [18:06] <rubys> topic: ACTION items due by Thu Jun 24
  202. # [18:06] <Julian> Zakim, P27 is me
  203. # [18:06] <Zakim> sorry, Julian, I do not recognize a party named 'P27'
  204. # [18:06] <Julian> Zakim, ?P27 is me
  205. # [18:06] <Zakim> sorry, Julian, I do not recognize a party named '?P27'
  206. # [18:06] <paulc> No action items to discuss
  207. # [18:06] <Julian> Zakim, ??P27 is me
  208. # [18:06] <Zakim> +Julian; got it
  209. # [18:06] * Julian sighs
  210. # [18:06] <rubys> topic: Items that close this week (by Thu Jun 24)
  211. # [18:06] <rubys> ISSUE-105?
  212. # [18:06] <paulc> issue-105?
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  214. # [18:07] <mjs> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/105
  215. # [18:07] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-105 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  216. # [18:07] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-105
  217. # [18:07] <trackbot> ISSUE-105 -- allow image maps on the canvas element -- open
  218. # [18:07] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/105
  219. # [18:07] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-105 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  220. # [18:07] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-105
  221. # [18:07] <trackbot> ISSUE-105 -- allow image maps on the canvas element -- open
  222. # [18:07] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/105
  223. # [18:08] <paulc> Status of 105: Objection from the Editor is being discussed.
  224. # [18:08] <paulc> The objection is being evaluated.
  225. # [18:08] <paulc> Janina: related to a proposal from Charles.
  226. # [18:09] <paulc> Janina: Should I report on this now?
  227. # [18:09] <paulc> Janina: A11Y TF made a proposal here which caused Charles to come forward.
  228. # [18:09] <paulc> Janina: The TF recommends that this discussion be done in the WG decision process.
  229. # [18:10] <paulc> Janina: It look like the people involved are working on another proposal which would include Charles's input.
  230. # [18:11] <paulc> No other discussion.
  231. # [18:11] <paulc> Issue-107?
  232. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-107
  233. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-107 -- Politics in fallback example for plugin usage -- open
  234. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/107
  235. # [18:11] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-107 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  236. # [18:11] * Julian sighs again
  237. # [18:11] <paulc> This change proposal passed , the editor made a change not exactly matching the proposed change and the change was not made in the WHAT WG spec.
  238. # [18:11] <paulc> This is being discussed on the mailing list.
  239. # [18:12] <paulc> Issue is still Open until the WG decision is verified as being made.
  240. # [18:12] <Zakim> - +1.206.850.aaaa
  241. # [18:12] <paulc> Topic: New issues
  242. # [18:12] <paulc> None
  243. # [18:12] <paulc> Topic: New surveys
  244. # [18:12] <rubys> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/issue-30-objection-poll/
  245. # [18:12] <Zakim> + +1.206.850.aadd
  246. # [18:12] <paulc> There are 2 new surveys for Issue 30 and 88
  247. # [18:13] <paulc> Issue-30?
  248. # [18:13] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-30
  249. # [18:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-30 -- Should HTML 5 include a longdesc attribute for images -- open
  250. # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/30
  251. # [18:13] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-30 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  252. # [18:13] <paulc> Issue-88?
  253. # [18:13] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-88
  254. # [18:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-88 -- Should meta/@content allow a list of languages instead of just a single language? -- open
  255. # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/88
  256. # [18:13] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-88 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  257. # [18:13] <rubys> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/issue-88-objection-poll/
  258. # [18:13] <paulc> Surveys opened June 23 and close on Wed Jun 30
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  260. # [18:13] <paulc> No discussion.
  261. # [18:13] <paulc> Topic Workgroup decisions
  262. # [18:14] <Zakim> +Laura_Carlson
  263. # [18:14] <paulc> Issues-93, 95, 96 and 97 are awaiting Chair decision. No progress to report.
  264. # [18:14] <paulc> Issue-93
  265. # [18:14] <paulc> Issue-93?
  266. # [18:14] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-93
  267. # [18:14] <trackbot> ISSUE-93 -- Delete Details Element -- open
  268. # [18:14] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/93
  269. # [18:14] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-93 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  270. # [18:14] <paulc> Issue-95?
  271. # [18:14] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-95
  272. # [18:14] <trackbot> ISSUE-95 -- Remove/Discard the Hidden Attribute -- open
  273. # [18:14] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/95
  274. # [18:14] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-95 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  275. # [18:14] <paulc> Issue-96?
  276. # [18:14] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-96
  277. # [18:14] <trackbot> ISSUE-96 -- Remove/Discard the Progress Element -- open
  278. # [18:14] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/96
  279. # [18:14] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-96 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  280. # [18:14] <paulc> Issue-97?
  281. # [18:14] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-97
  282. # [18:14] <trackbot> ISSUE-97 -- Remove/Discard the Meter Element -- open
  283. # [18:14] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/97
  284. # [18:14] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-97 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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  287. # [18:14] <paulc> No discussion.
  288. # [18:15] <paulc> Topic Heartbeat WDs and First Public WDs
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  290. # [18:15] <paulc> Target publication date is today (Jun 24) and alternate date is Mon Jun 28
  291. # [18:15] <paulc> We should be good to go today?
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  293. # [18:16] <janina> zakim, who is on the phone?
  294. # [18:16] <Zakim> On the phone I see Radhika_Roy, Sam, Michael_Cooper, [Microsoft], Janina, adrianba, krisk, mjs, Julian, Mike, +1.206.850.aadd, Laura_Carlson
  295. # [18:16] <rubys> MikeSmith?
  296. # [18:16] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
  297. # [18:16] <paulc> MikeSmith: Are we good to go with the publications today?
  298. # [18:17] <paulc> Topic: Task Force Reports
  299. # [18:17] <paulc> A11Y TF report:
  300. # [18:17] <paulc> Janina: We discussed canvas-usemap earlier in the call (issue-105)
  301. # [18:17] <paulc> Janina: ARIA mappings sub-group has provided the TF a report
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  303. # [18:18] <Eliot> zakim, +1.206.850.aadd is me
  304. # [18:18] <Zakim> +Eliot; got it
  305. # [18:18] <paulc> Janina: The recommendation is to re-write a complete section (3.2.4.6?)
  306. # [18:18] <paulc> Janina: There is questiona about whether there should be individual bugs filed for each low level change in light of the desire to do a complete re-write
  307. # [18:19] <paulc> Correction: section number is 3.2.6
  308. # [18:19] <paulc> Janina: The TF feels there was little Accessibility expert input on this section and thus the desire to re-write the entire section.
  309. # [18:20] <Zakim> +Rich
  310. # [18:20] <paulc> Janina: How do we do this in face of the current WG Decision Policy?
  311. # [18:20] <paulc> Janina: A11Y TF is looking for guidance.
  312. # [18:20] <paulc> Sam: The minimum is at least one bug.
  313. # [18:20] <paulc> Maciej: I believe that 10 or 100's is required.
  314. # [18:21] <paulc> Correction: Maciej: I believe that 10 or 100 is NOT required.
  315. # [18:21] <Laura> ISSUE-35: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/35
  316. # [18:21] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-35.
  317. # [18:21] <trackbot> ISSUE-35 Need to define processing requirements for aria states and properties when used in html notes added
  318. # [18:21] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-35 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  319. # [18:22] <Laura> ISSUE-14: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/14
  320. # [18:22] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-14.
  321. # [18:22] <trackbot> ISSUE-14 Integration of WAI-ARIA roles into HTML5 notes added
  322. # [18:22] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-14 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  323. # [18:22] <paulc> Janina: Issues 14 and 35 might be appropriate bugs to reference. They are closed.
  324. # [18:22] <paulc> Sam: Why cannot we start with new bugs?
  325. # [18:23] <paulc> Sam: A single bug with the rationale for the entire re-write is the "minimum" required here.
  326. # [18:23] <paulc> Janina: Okay I will take this back to the TF.
  327. # [18:24] <paulc> Paul: We should be looking for the "minimum required to declare victory" AND to be in sync with the Decision Policy.
  328. # [18:24] <paulc> Janina: Working on media accessibility - the good news is that there appears to be more agreement than initially thought
  329. # [18:25] <paulc> Janina: Very please with Media Group progress.
  330. # [18:25] <paulc> Janina: Working on Drag and Drop
  331. # [18:25] <paulc> janina: Working on Access Key which is coming via PF WG.
  332. # [18:25] <Zakim> -Rich
  333. # [18:26] <paulc> Janina: No ETA's on the Media Group, Drag and Drop or Access Key issue change proposals.
  334. # [18:27] <paulc> Sam: Any more discussion.
  335. # [18:27] <paulc> No more discussion
  336. # [18:27] <paulc> Testing TF report:
  337. # [18:28] <krisk> Group Meets again on 6/29
  338. # [18:28] <paulc> Kris: more activity this month
  339. # [18:28] <krisk> Philip Taylor will be submitting a very large set of canvas tests
  340. # [18:28] <krisk> Microsoft has submitted a few batches of tests for Audio, Video, Canvas, XHTML5, getElementsByClassName and Selection
  341. # [18:28] <krisk> I hope for more participation and feedback on submitted test
  342. # [18:28] <paulc> 1 Approved test with no bugs
  343. # [18:29] <paulc> TF has about 200 and is expecting another 800 canvas tests RSN
  344. # [18:30] <krisk> I hope for more participation and feedback on submitted test
  345. # [18:30] <paulc> Kris: Is hoping for more approved test in the future. We need feedback on the submitted tests.
  346. # [18:30] <paulc> Topic: Any other Business
  347. # [18:31] <paulc> issue-9?
  348. # [18:31] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-9
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  350. # [18:31] <trackbot> ISSUE-9 -- how accessibility works for <video> is unclear -- open
  351. # [18:31] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/9
  352. # [18:31] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-9 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  353. # [18:31] <paulc> Janina: Document exists, survey was run in TF, trying to revise document in TF
  354. # [18:32] <paulc> Janina: There is effort to get agreement and the draft change proposal (V2) is being worked on.
  355. # [18:32] <Laura> Media Accessibility Requirements Survey: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/44061/20080526_media-requirements/results
  356. # [18:32] <pimpbot> Title: Results of Questionnaire Review of Media Accessibility Requirements - Web-Based Straw-poll and Balloting System (at www.w3.org)
  357. # [18:32] <paulc> Janina: ETA for V2 change proposal is mid-July.
  358. # [18:32] <paulc> janina: Early fall for a "recommendation".
  359. # [18:33] <paulc> Sam: Target date was May 27.
  360. # [18:33] <Laura> Media Accessibility Requirements Draft: Media Accessibility Requirements
  361. # [18:33] <Laura> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Media_Accessibility_Requirements
  362. # [18:33] <pimpbot> Title: Media Accessibility Requirements - HTML accessibility task force Wiki (at www.w3.org)
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  364. # [18:34] <paulc> Janina: The May 27 date was for a Requirements document which was met.
  365. # [18:35] <paulc> Correction: references to "change proposal" should have been "requirements documents"
  366. # [18:35] <paulc> Janina: it is going to take several months to take the Requirements to one or more change proposals.
  367. # [18:36] <rubys> issue-9?
  368. # [18:36] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-9
  369. # [18:36] <trackbot> ISSUE-9 -- how accessibility works for <video> is unclear -- open
  370. # [18:36] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/9
  371. # [18:36] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-9 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  372. # [18:36] <paulc> Sam: What do we do with the status of Issue-9?
  373. # [18:36] <paulc> Janina: It need to stay open since we need to add spec material on media accessibility.
  374. # [18:36] <paulc> Sam: Any other discussion.
  375. # [18:36] <paulc> No more discussion.
  376. # [18:37] <paulc> Issue-27?
  377. # [18:37] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-27
  378. # [18:37] <trackbot> ISSUE-27 -- @rel value ownership, registry consideration -- open
  379. # [18:37] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/27
  380. # [18:37] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-27 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  381. # [18:37] <Julian> Iana status: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2010AprJun/0022.html
  382. # [18:37] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-27, was: Fwd: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2010-07-24: issues, surveys, decisions, publication status, TF reports from Julian Reschke on 2010-06-23 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from April to June 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
  383. # [18:37] <Julian> q+
  384. # [18:37] * Zakim sees Julian on the speaker queue
  385. # [18:37] <paulc> Sam: On hold for a registry - past Apr 13 hold date.
  386. # [18:38] <paulc> Julian: IANA is a bit confused about the spec description of the registry.
  387. # [18:39] <paulc> Julian: Not sure of this internal discussion but I suggest we test the registry once it is there.
  388. # [18:39] <paulc> Julian: The document for the link relationship needs to be prepared.
  389. # [18:39] <paulc> Ian and Lief have volunteered to test the registry but we still need to have access to it.
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  391. # [18:41] <paulc> Action: on paulc to followup with Mark Nottingham about the status of the IANA registry needed for Issue-27
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  393. # [18:41] <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - on
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  395. # [18:41] <paulc> Action: paulc to followup with Mark Nottingham about the status of the IANA registry needed for Issue-27
  396. # [18:41] * trackbot noticed an ACTION. Trying to create it.
  397. # [18:41] * RRSAgent records action 2
  398. # [18:41] <trackbot> Created ACTION-182 - Followup with Mark Nottingham about the status of the IANA registry needed for Issue-27 [on Paul Cotton - due 2010-07-01].
  399. # [18:42] <paulc> Topic: Next meeting
  400. # [18:43] <Julian> On the IANA registry: I believe this is currently being discussed between IANA and IESG; not sure what the current status is.
  401. # [18:43] * MichaelC *Canada's* national day, distinguished from *Quebec's* which is today ;)
  402. # [18:43] <paulc> Sam and Paul give regrets for Jul 1 - Sam is travelling, Paul is celebrating Canada Day
  403. # [18:43] <Julian> In any case, testing the registry will require a spec for a link relation, so I suggest those who want to test the registry to start preparing it.
  404. # [18:43] <paulc> Maciej will chair next week
  405. # [18:43] <paulc> Any volunteers to scribe?
  406. # [18:43] * Parts: taptapir (cosku@95.70.199.163)
  407. # [18:44] <paulc> No volunteers.
  408. # [18:44] * adrianba Regrets for next two weeks - will scribe when i return.
  409. # [18:44] <Laura> bye
  410. # [18:44] <Zakim> -mjs
  411. # [18:44] <paulc> Topic: Adjournment
  412. # [18:44] <Zakim> -Julian
  413. # [18:44] <Zakim> -krisk
  414. # [18:44] <Zakim> -Janina
  415. # [18:44] <Zakim> -Sam
  416. # [18:44] <Zakim> -Eliot
  417. # [18:44] <Zakim> -Radhika_Roy
  418. # [18:44] <Zakim> -Laura_Carlson
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  420. # [18:44] <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
  421. # [18:44] <paulc> Meeting adjourned at 12:42 ET
  422. # [18:44] <Zakim> -adrianba
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  438. # [19:33] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10001] For <ol> and <ul>, it would be very useful to have an array containing all top-level elements of the list, such as 'HTMLOListElement.listItems' <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jun/0352.html>
  439. # [19:33] <Zakim> -Mike
  440. # [19:33] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  441. # [19:33] <Zakim> Attendees were Radhika_Roy, Sam, Michael_Cooper, Janina, +1.206.850.aaaa, +1.206.922.aabb, paulc, adrianba, krisk, mjs, Mike, Julian, Laura_Carlson, Eliot, Rich
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  463. # [22:33] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10011] New: "then the UA should obtain the resource" should say WHEN rel=stylesheet obtains the resource (when the element is created?) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jun/0353.html>
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  467. # [23:04] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9965] White space in attributes - please justify why multiple spaces/linebreaks are problematic - or delete this requirement <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jun/0354.html>
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