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  1. # Session Start: Mon Jun 28 00:00:00 2010
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  3. # [00:51] <pimpbot> planet: How to flip images horizontally with HTML5 <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3129099/how-to-flip-images-horizontally-with-html5>
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  5. # [01:52] <pimpbot> planet: 2010-06-27 Trunk builds <http://www.squarefree.com/burningedge/2010/06/27/2010-06-27-trunk-builds/>
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  11. # [02:52] <pimpbot> planet: HTML5 Interoperability <http://intertwingly.net/blog/2010/06/27/HTML5-Interoperability>
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  21. # [05:55] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10024] New: A WebSRT cue identifier presumably needs to be followed by a WebSRT line terminator. This is not mentioned. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jun/0389.html>
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  36. # [10:26] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9289] What about polyglot documents which are *both* HTML5 and XHTML5 ? I think it would make a lot of sense to spend a few words on that because virtually nobody will use XHMTL5 with the correct MIME-type because of the legacy browsers. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jun/0390.html>
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  39. # [10:54] <pimpbot> planet: Looking for a book flip library/plugin <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3130964/looking-for-a-book-flip-library-plugin>
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  46. # [14:27] <pimpbot> changes: sam: Fix link to poll on issue 88 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Jun/0100.html> ** mike: added 'This document is informative only.' to the Status section <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Jun/0099.html>
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  49. # [14:48] <Philip> Hmm, apparently the Hg thing was fixed and some other people have pushed but I still can't :-(
  50. # [14:49] * Philip wonders if he could/should just clone the repository onto Bitbucket or something, so at least his changes are visible
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  53. # [15:16] <MikeSmithXX> Philip: are you getting a 500 error or something different nwo?
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  55. # [15:17] <Philip> MikeSmith: Still 500
  56. # [15:20] <MikeSmith> Philip: at the same point? on authentication?
  57. # [15:20] <MikeSmith> or after?
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  59. # [15:21] <MikeSmith> Philip: I'm told it's not just you
  60. # [15:21] <MikeSmith> apparently there is some intermittent problem
  61. # [15:21] <MikeSmith> please try the commit again now
  62. # [15:22] <Philip> Now it fails because of multiple heads
  63. # [15:22] * Philip tries to remember how to merge
  64. # [15:24] <MikeSmith> hg pull && hg merge
  65. # [15:24] <MikeSmith> ?
  66. # [15:25] <Philip> http://pastebin.com/1EHUDDQ8
  67. # [15:25] <pimpbot> Title: using https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/h - Anonymous - 1EHUDDQ8 - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
  68. # [15:27] <MikeSmith> Philip: thanks -- pinging systems team now
  69. # [15:28] * Philip wishes he knew a way to see the HTTP response received by hg
  70. # [15:29] <MikeSmith> yeah, me too
  71. # [15:30] <MikeSmith> Philip: it this a large commit?
  72. # [15:30] <MikeSmith> or is it otherwise exceptional in some way?
  73. # [15:32] <plh> I tried to do a commit 20 minutes and it worked btw, though that doesn't help here..
  74. # [15:33] <Philip> MikeSmith: sending 346638 bytes
  75. # [15:33] <Philip> so it's not tiny, but not ginormous
  76. # [15:34] <MikeSmith> Philip: can you please try the commit now
  77. # [15:34] <MikeSmith> one of the systems team is monitoring the logs now
  78. # [15:36] * Philip was trying a few times on the test repository
  79. # [15:36] <Philip> (It gives the same 500 message if I use an incorrect username)
  80. # [15:36] <Philip> MikeSmith: Will do
  81. # [15:37] <Philip> MikeSmith: Done so
  82. # [15:37] <MikeSmith> hai
  83. # [15:37] <Philip> http://pastebin.com/8axRr5W8
  84. # [15:37] <pimpbot> Title: $ hg push --verbose --debug; d - Anonymous - 8axRr5W8 - Pastebin.com (at pastebin.com)
  85. # [15:37] <MikeSmith> Philip: it gives you the same 500 error, but it fails earlier onw, right?
  86. # [15:37] <Philip> (That one includes the exact time)
  87. # [15:38] <Philip> MikeSmith: It looks like it's failing at the same point
  88. # [15:39] <MikeSmith> Philip: yeah, it seems there is a problem with the Apache server on the mercurial host contacting the ldap server
  89. # [15:40] <MikeSmith> but the cause of that is not understood
  90. # [15:40] <MikeSmith> and it it intermittent
  91. # [15:40] <MikeSmith> except in your case
  92. # [15:40] <MikeSmith> where it's not intermittent
  93. # [15:40] <MikeSmith> so you should feel special!
  94. # [15:42] <MikeSmith> seriously, if others can commit sometimes but you never can, then it must be something more than just a simple intermittent network problem or what not
  95. # [15:46] <Philip> MikeSmith: Fun
  96. # [15:48] <MikeSmith> maybe we can set up ssh auth as an alternative
  97. # [15:51] <MikeSmith> Philip: I will be around for a while yet and will let you know what/when I hear more from systems team
  98. # [15:51] <MikeSmith> but I think the one problem is that that we have Apache in the equation to begin with
  99. # [15:52] <MikeSmith> maybe I'm a bigot but I don't think a version-control system should have a dependency on Apache just for people to do commits
  100. # [15:55] <MikeSmith> Philip: system team asks that you try one commit now, with your proper username and password
  101. # [15:55] <Philip> I've always found that a bit of a pain with SVN, since Apache processes are quite heavy
  102. # [15:55] <MikeSmith> it will fail
  103. # [15:55] <MikeSmith> Philip: exactly
  104. # [15:55] <pimpbot> planet: CSS3-based Carousel in Any Direction Regardless of Order <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3126268/css3-based-carousel-in-any-direction-regardless-of-order>
  105. # [15:56] <Philip> MikeSmith: Done
  106. # [15:56] <MikeSmith> I think it's a serious misfeature in SVN as well
  107. # [15:56] <Philip> (I do hope this is my proper username and password...)
  108. # [16:02] <Philip> (Oh, crumbs)
  109. # [16:02] <Philip> (It isn't)
  110. # [16:03] <Philip> MikeSmith: Hmm, yeah, it worked when I actually used the correct password :-/
  111. # [16:03] <MikeSmith> aha
  112. # [16:03] * Philip must have changed it at some unknown unremembered point in the past and not written it down anywhere
  113. # [16:03] <MikeSmith> so it seems like using the correct password is the recommended fix?
  114. # [16:03] * MikeSmith makes some notes
  115. # [16:04] <Philip> Yeah, I think that helps
  116. # [16:04] <MikeSmith> heh
  117. # [16:04] <Philip> The 500 error on incorrect password doesn't help so much
  118. # [16:04] <MikeSmith> true
  119. # [16:04] <MikeSmith> it's useless
  120. # [16:04] <MikeSmith> anyway, I'm glad you got the stuff checked in
  121. # [16:04] * Philip apologises slightly for wasting people's time on this
  122. # [16:04] * MikeSmith goes to check the repo
  123. # [16:04] <Philip> (but only slightly since there ought to be better diagnostics :-p )
  124. # [16:05] <MikeSmith> Philip: you got enough good karma built up to balance it out 10^n-something times over
  125. # [16:05] <Philip> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html/raw-file/tip/tests/submission/PhilipTaylor/canvas/index.html
  126. # [16:05] <pimpbot> Title: Canvas tests - index (at dvcs.w3.org)
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  128. # [16:07] <plh> and they're on http://test.w3.org/html/tests/submission/PhilipTaylor/ as well
  129. # [16:07] <pimpbot> Title: Index of /html/tests/submission/PhilipTaylor (at test.w3.org)
  130. # [16:12] <Philip> plh: Aha, thanks
  131. # [16:24] <jgraham> Philip: awesome :)
  132. # [16:25] <Philip> Oh no, I broke time
  133. # [16:25] <Philip> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html/shortlog isn't monotonic any more :-(
  134. # [16:25] <pimpbot> Title: html: Shortlog — W3C Mercurial repositories (at dvcs.w3.org)
  135. # [16:27] <Philip> jgraham: I shall expect reviews of all test cases by tomorrow morning
  136. # [16:37] <jgraham> Philip: glwt
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  138. # [16:55] <pimpbot> planet: Is there any way to tell when an SVG animation is complete? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3133107/is-there-any-way-to-tell-when-an-svg-animation-is-complete>
  139. # [16:57] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10025] a <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jun/0392.html> ** [Bug 10025] New: a <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jun/0391.html>
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  143. # [17:27] <pimpbot> changes: steve: new sub-section 'Is alt attribute content a replacement for an image?' - unfinished <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Jun/0101.html>
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  148. # [17:56] <pimpbot> planet: HTML 5 video or audio playlist <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2551859/html-5-video-or-audio-playlist> ** How is scribd html5? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3081396/how-is-scribd-html5>
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  154. # [20:28] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 10025] a" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jun/0393.html>
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  161. # [22:57] <pimpbot> planet: Is it too early to use HTML5 <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3135580/is-it-too-early-to-use-html5> ** JW Player on iPad causes issues <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3135342/jw-player-on-ipad-causes-issues>
  162. # [22:59] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10026] New: Scope attribute for TD <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jun/0394.html>
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  164. # [23:29] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9829] <button> should be scoping for the purpose of implicitly closing <p> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jun/0395.html>
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  166. # [23:57] <pimpbot> planet: How to turn contentEditable into a structured markup editor? <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3136124/how-to-turn-contenteditable-into-a-structured-markup-editor>
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