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  3. # [00:04] <pimpbot> planet: Ben and Dion Step Down as Editors of Ajaxian.com <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ajaxian/~3/VXinK69xCro/ben-and-dion-step-down-as-editors-of-ajaxian-com>
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  21. # [02:04] <pimpbot> planet: 100 Chrome Experiments and counting! <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Egta/~3/9-tmmJ9Hzk0/100-chrome-experiments-and-counting.html>
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  28. # [02:57] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 10083] Remove references to Microdata from within the document" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0139.html>
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  39. # [03:57] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 10083] Remove references to Microdata from within the document" (3 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0140.html>
  40. # [04:27] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 10083] Remove references to Microdata from within the document" (4 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0141.html>
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  56. # [09:00] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Captions - Stage 20.1: wip for API definitions. (whatwg r5137) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Jul/0019.html>
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  61. # [10:06] <pimpbot> planet: Thankyous for Introducing HTML5 <http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2010/thankyous-for-introducing-html5/>
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  68. # [11:00] <pimpbot> changes: mjs: Update entries for issues with surveys that have closed. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Jul/0020.html>
  69. # [11:00] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 10068] Suggest making noscript obsolete but conforming" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0143.html>
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  73. # [11:31] <pimpbot> changes: mjs: Update status for issues 31 and 56. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Jul/0022.html> ** mjs: Update deadlines for issues 74 and 105. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Jul/0021.html>
  74. # [11:31] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 10068] Suggest making noscript obsolete but conforming" (3 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0144.html>
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  77. # [12:01] <pimpbot> changes: mjs: Update deadlines on issues 80, 85, 100. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Jul/0023.html>
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  102. # [17:02] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9122] Obsolete but Conforming <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0145.html>
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  116. # [17:59] <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jul/0010.html
  117. # [17:59] <pimpbot> Title: FW: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2010-07-08: actions, issues, decisions, revised proposals, future surveys, TF reports from Paul Cotton on 2010-07-07 (public-html@w3.org from July 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
  118. # [17:59] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
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  122. # [18:02] <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
  123. # [18:02] <Zakim> sorry, MikeSmith, I don't know what conference this is
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  125. # [18:02] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
  126. # [18:02] <Zakim> sorry, paulc, I do not recognize a party named '[Microsoft]'
  127. # [18:02] <MikeSmith> trackbot, start meeting
  128. # [18:02] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference
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  130. # [18:02] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/07/08-html-wg-irc
  131. # [18:02] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  132. # [18:02] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
  133. # [18:02] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be HTML
  134. # [18:02] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  135. # [18:02] <trackbot> Date: 08 July 2010
  136. # [18:02] <Zakim> HTML matches both HTML_WG()12:00PM and WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM
  137. # [18:02] <MikeSmith> Zakim, this will be HTML_WG
  138. # [18:02] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  139. # [18:02] <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
  140. # [18:02] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
  141. # [18:02] <Zakim> +Mike
  142. # [18:02] <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jul/0010.html
  143. # [18:02] <mjs> good day
  144. # [18:02] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  145. # [18:02] <pimpbot> Title: FW: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2010-07-08: actions, issues, decisions, revised proposals, future surveys, TF reports from Paul Cotton on 2010-07-07 (public-html@w3.org from July 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
  146. # [18:03] <Eliot> Zakim, [Microsoft] is me
  147. # [18:03] <Zakim> +Eliot; got it
  148. # [18:03] <paulc> test
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  151. # [18:04] <MikeSmith> Zakim, who's on the phone?
  152. # [18:04] <Zakim> On the phone I see Radhika_Roy, Cynthia_Shelly, Michael_Cooper, Mike, Eliot
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  154. # [18:04] <Zakim> +Laura_Carlson
  155. # [18:05] <paulc> Having trouble joining call.
  156. # [18:05] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  157. # [18:05] <Zakim> +Julian_Reschke
  158. # [18:05] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
  159. # [18:05] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  160. # [18:06] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  161. # [18:06] <paulc> Maciej: Are you ready to take minutes?
  162. # [18:06] <krisk> zakim Microsoft.a is krisk
  163. # [18:06] <MikeSmith> mjs, you calling in?
  164. # [18:06] <mjs> MikeSmith: yes, just fumbling the dialing a bit, I should be in shortly
  165. # [18:06] <paulc> Who is here?
  166. # [18:07] <paulc> zakim, who is here?
  167. # [18:07] <Zakim> On the phone I see Radhika_Roy, Cynthia_Shelly, Michael_Cooper, Mike, Eliot, Laura_Carlson, [Microsoft], Julian_Reschke, [Microsoft.a]
  168. # [18:07] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
  169. # [18:07] <Zakim> On IRC I see Stevef, krisk, RRSAgent, Zakim, Mark, Laura, paulc, Eliot, Lachy, miketaylr, aroben, Philip, laplink, anne, MikeSmith, matiassingers, tlr, mjs, Julian, arronei,
  170. # [18:07] <Zakim> ... dmiles_afk, gavin, karl, shepazu, hober, Yudai, krijn, gsnedders, Dashiva, gavin_, drry, ed_work_, scotfl, CIA-1, Hixie, Slaanesh, jwm, jgraham, jmb, trackbot, webben, pimpbot,
  171. # [18:07] <Zakim> ... Shunsuke, inimino, phenny
  172. # [18:07] <krisk> zakim, [Microsoft.a] is krisk
  173. # [18:07] <Zakim> +krisk; got it
  174. # [18:08] <paulc> test
  175. # [18:09] <Zakim> +Wayne_Carr
  176. # [18:09] <MikeSmith> scribe: MikeSmith
  177. # [18:09] <paulc> Topic: ACTION items due by Thursday, July 8
  178. # [18:09] <MikeSmith> Chair: Paul
  179. # [18:09] <paulc> No action items are due.
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  182. # [18:10] <paulc> Topic: New Issues This Week
  183. # [18:10] <paulc> None
  184. # [18:10] <paulc> topic: Working Group decisions
  185. # [18:10] <Zakim> + +1.415.595.aaaa
  186. # [18:10] <mjs> paulc, I'm in now
  187. # [18:11] <MikeSmith> scribe: mjs
  188. # [18:11] <paulc> issue-30?
  189. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-30
  190. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-30 -- Should HTML 5 include a longdesc attribute for images -- open
  191. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/30
  192. # [18:11] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-30 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  193. # [18:11] <mjs> ISSUE-30 and ISSUE-88 are two issues that had surveys close last week
  194. # [18:11] <mjs> issue-88?
  195. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-88
  196. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-88 -- Should meta/@content allow a list of languages instead of just a single language? -- open
  197. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/88
  198. # [18:11] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-88 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  199. # [18:12] <mjs> 95, 96 and 97 are outstanding - the chairs are working on all 3 of those
  200. # [18:12] <paulc> Issue-95?
  201. # [18:12] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-95
  202. # [18:12] <trackbot> ISSUE-95 -- Remove/Discard the Hidden Attribute -- open
  203. # [18:12] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/95
  204. # [18:12] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-95 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  205. # [18:12] <mjs> we apologize for the backlog
  206. # [18:12] <paulc> issue-96?
  207. # [18:12] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-96
  208. # [18:12] <trackbot> ISSUE-96 -- Remove/Discard the Progress Element -- open
  209. # [18:12] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/96
  210. # [18:12] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-96 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  211. # [18:12] <paulc> Issue-97?
  212. # [18:12] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-97
  213. # [18:12] <trackbot> ISSUE-97 -- Remove/Discard the Meter Element -- open
  214. # [18:12] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/97
  215. # [18:12] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-97 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  216. # [18:12] <paulc> Topic: Issues needing revised proposals
  217. # [18:13] <paulc> The Chairs will be requesting revised proposals for the following issues.
  218. # [18:13] <mjs> on issues 31, 56, 80, 85 and 100, we asked for revised proposals
  219. # [18:14] <paulc> Issues 31, 56, 80, 85, 100
  220. # [18:14] <paulc> Issue-31?
  221. # [18:14] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-31
  222. # [18:14] <trackbot> ISSUE-31 -- What to do when a reasonable text equivalent is unknown/unavailable? -- open
  223. # [18:14] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/31
  224. # [18:14] <Zakim> -Mike
  225. # [18:14] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-31 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  226. # [18:14] <paulc> Issue-56?
  227. # [18:14] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-56
  228. # [18:14] <trackbot> ISSUE-56 -- Bring "URLs" section/definition and IRI specification in alignment. -- open
  229. # [18:14] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/56
  230. # [18:14] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-56 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  231. # [18:14] <paulc> Issue-80?
  232. # [18:14] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-80
  233. # [18:14] <trackbot> ISSUE-80 -- document conformance and device dependent display of title attribute content -- open
  234. # [18:14] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/80
  235. # [18:14] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-80 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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  237. # [18:14] <paulc> issue-85?
  238. # [18:14] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-85
  239. # [18:14] <trackbot> ISSUE-85 -- ARIA roles added to the a element should be conforming in HTML5 -- open
  240. # [18:14] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/85
  241. # [18:14] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-85 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  242. # [18:14] <paulc> issue-100?
  243. # [18:14] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-100
  244. # [18:14] <trackbot> ISSUE-100 -- Remove the srcdoc attribute from the HTML5 specification -- open
  245. # [18:14] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/100
  246. # [18:14] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-100 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  247. # [18:14] <paulc> Laura updated 31, Adam will update 56
  248. # [18:15] <mjs> Adam Barth responded on issue-56, saying he would update it in time
  249. # [18:15] <paulc> It appears that the 85 item is abandoned.
  250. # [18:15] <mjs> On issue-85, steve f said it was abandoned
  251. # [18:15] <MikeSmithX> Zakim, call Mike
  252. # [18:15] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmithX; the call is being made
  253. # [18:15] <Zakim> +Mike
  254. # [18:15] <paulc> These revisions are due on Jul 15.
  255. # [18:15] <paulc> Topic: Issues ready for survey processing
  256. # [18:16] <mjs> Topic: upcoming surveys
  257. # [18:16] <paulc> We will consider starting surveys on Issue 4 and 84.
  258. # [18:16] <mjs> Surveys likely coming soon on ISSUE-4 and ISSUE-84
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  260. # [18:16] <mjs> Julian pointed out that Larry is on holiday
  261. # [18:17] <paulc> Other surveys are for 101 and 103
  262. # [18:17] <mjs> others under consideration: 101, 103
  263. # [18:17] <paulc> issue-4?
  264. # [18:17] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-4
  265. # [18:17] <trackbot> ISSUE-4 -- HTML Versioning and DOCTYPEs -- open
  266. # [18:17] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/4
  267. # [18:17] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-4 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  268. # [18:17] <paulc> Issue-101?
  269. # [18:17] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-101
  270. # [18:17] <trackbot> ISSUE-101 -- Spec reference for US-ASCII -- open
  271. # [18:17] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/101
  272. # [18:17] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-101 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  273. # [18:17] <paulc> issue-103?
  274. # [18:17] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-103
  275. # [18:17] <trackbot> ISSUE-103 -- XML escaping in iframe/@srcdoc -- open
  276. # [18:17] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/103
  277. # [18:17] <Julian> q+
  278. # [18:17] * Zakim sees Julian on the speaker queue
  279. # [18:17] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-103 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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  281. # [18:17] <paulc> ack Julian
  282. # [18:17] <mjs> ack Julian
  283. # [18:17] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
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  285. # [18:17] <mjs> Julian: I wanted to know if the issue 100 might make issue 103 moot
  286. # [18:17] <paulc> The outcome of issue-103 depends on issue-100.
  287. # [18:18] <mjs> paulc: so your advice is to make 103 dependent on first processing 100
  288. # [18:18] <mjs> Julian: yes
  289. # [18:18] <paulc> Julian: it might save some time to hold issue-103 until we dispose of issue-100.
  290. # [18:19] <paulc> topic: linked issues
  291. # [18:19] <mjs> paulc: any other comments?
  292. # [18:19] <mjs> topic: Linked issues
  293. # [18:19] <mjs> paulc: we had a call for consensus on issue 105
  294. # [18:19] <mjs> paulc: as a result of follow-on discussion, we realized issues 74 and 105 need to be treated together
  295. # [18:19] <mjs> paulc: both extended to a common date of July 30th
  296. # [18:19] <paulc> issue-74?
  297. # [18:19] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-74
  298. # [18:19] <trackbot> ISSUE-74 -- How accessibility works for <canvas> is unclear. -- open
  299. # [18:19] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/74
  300. # [18:19] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-74 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  301. # [18:19] <mjs> paulc: any comments?
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  303. # [18:20] <paulc> issue-105?
  304. # [18:20] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-105
  305. # [18:20] <trackbot> ISSUE-105 -- allow image maps on the canvas element -- open
  306. # [18:20] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/105
  307. # [18:20] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-105 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  308. # [18:20] <MikeSmithX> Zakim, mute Mike
  309. # [18:20] <Zakim> Mike should now be muted
  310. # [18:20] <mjs> topic: task force reports
  311. # [18:20] <paulc> topic: TF reports
  312. # [18:20] <mjs> paulc: testing task force first
  313. # [18:20] <mjs> krisk: we had a meeting recently
  314. # [18:20] <mjs> krisk: we approved 45 test cases
  315. # [18:21] <krisk> 11 xhtml5
  316. # [18:21] <krisk> 3 audio
  317. # [18:21] <krisk> 12 vidoe cases
  318. # [18:21] <krisk> 11 canvas cases
  319. # [18:21] <krisk> 10 foreign content cases
  320. # [18:21] <mjs> krisk: there are more test cases that still need to be approved
  321. # [18:22] <mjs> krisk: one issue that came up - should SVG be overflow: auto or clipped?
  322. # [18:23] <mjs> q+
  323. # [18:23] * Zakim sees mjs on the speaker queue
  324. # [18:23] <mjs> krisk: I think a spec needs to be updated, I'm not sure if it's HTML5 or SVG
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  326. # [18:24] <oedipus> regrets+ Gregory_Rosmaita
  327. # [18:24] <paulc> Action: krisk and Testing TF to open bug on default mode when embedding SVG in HTML
  328. # [18:24] * trackbot noticed an ACTION. Trying to create it.
  329. # [18:24] <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - krisk
  330. # [18:24] * RRSAgent records action 1
  331. # [18:24] <mjs> mjs: I think this is an issue for the SVG spec
  332. # [18:25] <mjs> paulc: make sure to mention relevant sections in both HTML and SVG
  333. # [18:25] <krisk> try kkrueger
  334. # [18:25] <paulc> Action: kkrueger and Testint TF to open bug on default mode when embedding SVG in HTML
  335. # [18:25] * RRSAgent records action 2
  336. # [18:25] * trackbot noticed an ACTION. Trying to create it.
  337. # [18:25] <trackbot> Created ACTION-183 - And Testint TF to open bug on default mode when embedding SVG in HTML [on Kris Krueger - due 2010-07-15].
  338. # [18:26] <mjs> krisk: we need a harness for these tests
  339. # [18:26] <paulc> krisk: next week the TF will take the Canvas tests (700+) not yet approved
  340. # [18:27] <paulc> krisk: TF is working on figuring out how to get results for the current approved tests.
  341. # [18:27] <mjs> paulc: any other comments?
  342. # [18:28] <paulc> krisk: I plan to submit something that will permit easier execution of the existing approved test cases.
  343. # [18:28] <MikeSmithX> Zakim, unmute Mike
  344. # [18:28] <Zakim> Mike should no longer be muted
  345. # [18:28] <paulc> Next is the Accessbility TF
  346. # [18:28] <MikeSmithX> http://www.w3.org/2010/07/08-html-a11y-minutes.html
  347. # [18:28] <pimpbot> Title: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference -- 08 Jul 2010 (at www.w3.org)
  348. # [18:29] <MikeSmithX> http://www.w3.org/2010/07/01-html-a11y-minutes.html
  349. # [18:29] <pimpbot> Title: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference -- 01 Jul 2010 (at www.w3.org)
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  351. # [18:29] <MikeSmithX> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Media_Accessibility_Requirements
  352. # [18:29] <pimpbot> Title: Media Accessibility Requirements - HTML accessibility task force Wiki (at www.w3.org)
  353. # [18:29] <mjs> MikeSmithX: the focus currently is the media subteam
  354. # [18:29] <mjs> MikeSmithX: working on requirements document
  355. # [18:29] <MikeSmithX> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Media_Accessibility_Requirements#Captioning
  356. # [18:29] <pimpbot> Title: Media Accessibility Requirements - HTML accessibility task force Wiki (at www.w3.org)
  357. # [18:29] <mjs> MikeSmithX: that includes a very high priority item, which is requirements for captioning
  358. # [18:30] <Laura> HTML Accessibility Task Force Minute Archive: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Meetings/Minutes
  359. # [18:30] <pimpbot> Title: Meetings/Minutes - HTML accessibility task force Wiki (at www.w3.org)
  360. # [18:30] <mjs> MikeSmithX: I think this will unblock the multitrack mechanism and the <track> mechanism
  361. # [18:30] <mjs> MikeSmithX: was present and then removed
  362. # [18:31] <mjs> MikeSmithX: requirements will be done by the end of this week
  363. # [18:31] <mjs> q+
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  365. # [18:31] <mjs> MikeSmithX: after that we will begin to deal with the technical details
  366. # [18:31] <paulc> ack mjs
  367. # [18:31] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  368. # [18:32] <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
  369. # [18:32] <mjs> mjs: will the requirements document be submitted to the HTML WG
  370. # [18:32] <paulc> Maciej: will Requirements document be submitted to the WG?
  371. # [18:32] <MikeSmithX> issue-9?
  372. # [18:32] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-9
  373. # [18:32] <trackbot> ISSUE-9 -- how accessibility works for <video> is unclear -- open
  374. # [18:32] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/9
  375. # [18:32] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-9 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  376. # [18:33] <MikeSmithX> last deadline was May 27
  377. # [18:33] <mjs> MikeSmithX: last deadline was to submit the requirements document by May 27th
  378. # [18:34] <MikeSmithX> so we are more than a month past the deadline we had set
  379. # [18:34] <mjs> MikeSmithX: I agree the next deliverable is the requirements document and it should be done ASAP
  380. # [18:34] <mjs> paulc: we also need a date for a proposed solution, in addition to the requirements document
  381. # [18:35] <mjs> paulc: W3C Team is asking us when we are going to get to last call - if we don't have a date for this issue, it becomes the long pole
  382. # [18:35] <Zakim> + +1.732.859.aabb
  383. # [18:36] <mjs> paulc: I interrupted you earlier - would you like to continue?
  384. # [18:36] <paulc> zakim, who is here?
  385. # [18:36] <Zakim> On the phone I see Radhika_Roy, Michael_Cooper, Mike, Eliot, Laura_Carlson, [Microsoft], Julian_Reschke, krisk, Wayne_Carr, +1.415.595.aaaa, +1.732.859.aabb
  386. # [18:36] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
  387. # [18:36] <Zakim> On IRC I see sjm, oedipus, johndrinkwater, kennyluck, MikeSmithX, Lachy, Stevef, krisk, RRSAgent, Zakim, Mark, Laura, paulc, Eliot, miketaylr, aroben, Philip, laplink, anne,
  388. # [18:36] <Zakim> ... matiassingers, tlr, mjs, Julian, arronei, dmiles_afk, gavin, karl, shepazu, hober, Yudai, krijn, gsnedders, Dashiva, gavin_, drry, ed_work_, scotfl, CIA-1, Hixie, Slaanesh,
  389. # [18:36] <Zakim> ... jwm, jgraham, jmb, trackbot, webben, pimpbot, Shunsuke, inimino, phenny
  390. # [18:36] <mjs> MikeSmithX: along with this pending deadline for the requirements document, and a proposed solution on video, we also have an open item to provide a response about how ARIA should be integrated into HTML5
  391. # [18:37] <MikeSmithX> http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/misc/HTML5/aria-html5-proposal.html
  392. # [18:37] <pimpbot> Title: ARIA - HTML5 proposal (at www.paciellogroup.com)
  393. # [18:37] <MikeSmithX> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/ARIAinHTML5
  394. # [18:37] <pimpbot> Title: ChangeProposals/ARIAinHTML5 - HTML WG Wiki (at www.w3.org)
  395. # [18:37] <mjs> MikeSmithX: Steve F wrote a Change Proposal and opened a bug
  396. # [18:38] <Laura> Steve's Bug: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10066
  397. # [18:38] <paulc> http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-085
  398. # [18:38] <pimpbot> 10066: faulkner.steve@gmail.com, P2, NEW, replace section 3.2.6 with the alternative spec text provided
  399. # [18:38] <pimpbot> Title: Change Proposal Status (at dev.w3.org)
  400. # [18:38] <MikeSmithX> issue-85?
  401. # [18:38] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-85
  402. # [18:38] <trackbot> ISSUE-85 -- ARIA roles added to the a element should be conforming in HTML5 -- open
  403. # [18:38] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/85
  404. # [18:38] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-85 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  405. # [18:38] <mjs> MikeSmithX: this is meant to be a proposal for how ARIA is allowed to be used in HTML
  406. # [18:39] <mjs> paulc: should bug 10066 be linked to issue 85, or does it make issue 85 moot?
  407. # [18:39] <pimpbot> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10066 faulkner.steve@gmail.com, P2, NEW, replace section 3.2.6 with the alternative spec text provided
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  409. # [18:39] <mjs> MikeSmithX: the latter
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  412. # [18:40] <mjs> paulc: so issue 85 was a specific issue, and 10066 is more general
  413. # [18:40] <MikeSmithX> issue-85: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10066
  414. # [18:40] * trackbot attempting to add a note to ISSUE-85.
  415. # [18:40] <trackbot> ISSUE-85 ARIA roles added to the a element should be conforming in HTML5 notes added
  416. # [18:40] <pimpbot> 10066: faulkner.steve@gmail.com, P2, NEW, replace section 3.2.6 with the alternative spec text provided
  417. # [18:40] <Laura> change proposal as it is superseded by the new proposal: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jul/0022.html
  418. # [18:40] <pimpbot> Title: Re: ISSUE-85 anchor-roles partial Change Proposal from Steven Faulkner on 2010-07-08 (public-html@w3.org from July 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
  419. # [18:40] <mjs> paulc: we should update the Change Proposal page
  420. # [18:41] <mjs> MikeSmithX: we have been having some discussion about whether changes are needed for DnD
  421. # [18:42] <mjs> paulc: thanks for the report
  422. # [18:43] <Laura> need implementor feedback on allowing keyboard activation of drag-and-drop events: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Jun/0260.html
  423. # [18:43] <pimpbot> Title: Re: need implementor feedback on allowing keyboard activation of drag-and-drop events from Michael(tm) Smith on 2010-06-30 (public-html-a11y@w3.org from June 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
  424. # [18:43] <paulc> Topic: Other business
  425. # [18:43] <paulc> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10083
  426. # [18:43] <pimpbot> 10083: shelleyp@burningbird.net, P2, REOPENED, Remove references to Microdata from within the document
  427. # [18:43] <mjs> paulc: Julian wanted to discuss bug 10083
  428. # [18:43] <pimpbot> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10083 shelleyp@burningbird.net, P2, REOPENED, Remove references to Microdata from within the document
  429. # [18:44] <mjs> Julian: I understand wanting to add useful information, but I don't think it's good to add information about Microdata but not RDFa
  430. # [18:45] <mjs> MikeSmithX: I responded in great detail in the bug
  431. # [18:45] <mjs> MikeSmithX: I don't think this is a change in scope
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  433. # [18:46] <mjs> MikeSmithX: I think it's useful data
  434. # [18:46] <mjs> MikeSmithX: I can see some people disagreed with publishing Microdata, but it is published as a deliverable
  435. # [18:47] <mjs> MikeSmithX: I disagree with the argument that the markup language document can't reference other deliverables
  436. # [18:47] <Julian> q+
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  438. # [18:47] <mjs> paulc: there seems to be sentiment that this is undoing a previous decision
  439. # [18:48] <mjs> MikeSmithX: my document doesn't currently include any additional attributes from RDFa or from Microdata
  440. # [18:48] <mjs> MikeSmithX: but there is a difference that is characteristic of Microdata - there is a closer binding between Microdata and the HTML language
  441. # [18:49] <mjs> MikeSmithX: the corresponding information doesn't exist for RDFa
  442. # [18:49] <paulc> ack julian
  443. # [18:49] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  444. # [18:51] <mjs> Julian: what I hear is that Mike is not intending to add RDFa or Microdata attributes
  445. # [18:51] <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
  446. # [18:51] <mjs> MikeSmithX: I'm saying that I haven't added them yet
  447. # [18:51] <mjs> Julian: people may be sensitive about this topic
  448. # [18:51] <mjs> Julian: I'm confused about the Microdata reference
  449. # [18:52] <mjs> MikeSmithX: I believe I addressed this in comments about the bug
  450. # [18:52] <mjs> MikeSmithX: I have other out-of-context information that is not directly tied, but is a helpful reference
  451. # [18:54] <mjs> Julian: is the current state temporary?
  452. # [18:54] <mjs> MikeSmithX: I do intend to add descriptions
  453. # [18:55] <mjs> paulc: if there is a Microdata reference and no RDFa reference, people will file bugs
  454. # [18:56] <mjs> MikeSmithX: there isn't equivalent information on RDFa to what I have for Microdata
  455. # [18:56] <mjs> Julian: I will have to think about it
  456. # [18:56] <mjs> Julian: I think it's confusing
  457. # [18:56] <mjs> MikeSmithX: I disagree that it's confusing
  458. # [18:57] <Julian> q+
  459. # [18:57] * Zakim sees Julian on the speaker queue
  460. # [18:57] <mjs> paulc: I think one thing that would be valuable would be for you to describe in prose what you think the scope of the document is, beyond what the status section is, and what additional items may be needed in the spec
  461. # [18:57] <mjs> ack Julian
  462. # [18:57] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  463. # [18:57] <paulc> ack julian
  464. # [18:57] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  465. # [18:58] <mjs> Julian: now that this is a WD, the WG should know more about the plans
  466. # [18:59] <mjs> Julian: I don't necessarily disagree with where the document should go, but I'd like to know more about the plans
  467. # [18:59] <mjs> paulc: can you think about my plans?
  468. # [18:59] <mjs> MikeSmithX: thanks
  469. # [19:00] <paulc> topic: scribe for next week
  470. # [19:00] <paulc> Any volunteers?
  471. # [19:00] <mjs> (no volunteers)
  472. # [19:00] <paulc> paul Cotton will volunteer to scribe next week.
  473. # [19:00] <paulc> topic: adjournment
  474. # [19:00] <mjs> topic: adjournment
  475. # [19:00] <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
  476. # [19:00] <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
  477. # [19:00] <Zakim> -Radhika_Roy
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  480. # [19:00] <Zakim> -Wayne_Carr
  481. # [19:01] <Zakim> -krisk
  482. # [19:01] <Zakim> -Julian_Reschke
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  484. # [19:01] <MikeSmithX> . RRSAgent, make minutes
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  486. # [19:01] <mjs> RRSAgent, make minutes
  487. # [19:01] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/08-html-wg-minutes.html mjs
  488. # [19:01] <Zakim> -Laura_Carlson
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  494. # [19:02] <MikeSmithX> Zakim, drop Mike
  495. # [19:02] <Zakim> Mike is being disconnected
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  512. # [21:03] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10112] New: should element.click() also set focus on the clicked element? This is not clear from the steps given for the click() method <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0146.html>
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  517. # [22:03] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10113] New: make </rt> optional (in syntax and parser) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0147.html>
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  522. # [22:33] <pimpbot> changes: mike: added RDFa usage note to descriptions of the lang and xml:lang attributes <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Jul/0025.html> ** mike: added "RDFa evaluation context" subsection for <base>, <html>, and <body> elements; not sure that is the best title for the section, but could not think of a better one... <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Jul/0024.html>
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  530. # [23:34] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10083] Remove references to Microdata from within the document <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0149.html> ** [Bug 9959] Remove the wording"polyglot document" and incorporate formulations from title instead <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0148.html>
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