/irc-logs / w3c / #html-wg / 2010-07-23 / end

Options:

  1. # Session Start: Fri Jul 23 00:00:00 2010
  2. # Session Ident: #html-wg
  3. # [00:40] * Quits: aroben (aroben@71.58.77.15) (Quit: aroben)
  4. # [00:46] * Quits: plh (plh@128.30.52.28) (Quit: always accept cookies)
  5. # [01:03] * Joins: laplink (link@193.157.66.13)
  6. # [01:08] * Quits: mjs (mjs@17.246.18.237) (Quit: mjs)
  7. # [01:09] * Joins: mjs (mjs@17.246.18.237)
  8. # [01:13] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Ensure <video> controls don't overlap captions. (whatwg r5190) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Jul/0068.html>
  9. # [01:17] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10228] write-neutralized is a horrible, horrible name <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0393.html> ** [Bug 10228] New: write-neutralized is a horrible, horrible name <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0392.html>
  10. # [01:38] * Quits: tH (Rob@87.102.89.10) (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.0.1/2008072406])
  11. # [02:27] * Quits: laplink (link@193.157.66.13) (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
  12. # [02:37] * Quits: karl (karlcow@128.30.54.58) (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
  13. # [02:47] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10229] New: "for timed tracks whose kind is chapters, the user agent is making available to the user a mechanism by which the user can navigate to any point in the media resource by selecting a cue" says the spec, but how is not actually defined anywhere <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0394.html>
  14. # [03:41] <pimpbot> planet: Mozilla Add-ons Workshop – London Wrap-up <http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2010/07/22/mozilla-add-ons-workshop-london-wrap-up/>
  15. # [03:51] * Quits: MikeSmithX (MikeSmith@111.188.28.64) (Quit: Till kicked and torn and beaten out he lies, and leaves his hold and crackles, groans, and dies.)
  16. # [04:11] * Joins: miketaylr (miketaylr@24.42.95.108)
  17. # [04:38] * Joins: karl (karlcow@128.30.54.58)
  18. # [05:11] * Quits: gavin (gavin@99.226.207.11) (Ping timeout)
  19. # [05:17] * Joins: gavin (gavin@99.226.207.11)
  20. # [05:19] * Quits: mjs (mjs@17.246.18.237) (Quit: mjs)
  21. # [06:13] * Joins: mjs (mjs@69.181.42.237)
  22. # [06:42] <pimpbot> planet: 2010-07-22 Trunk builds <http://www.squarefree.com/burningedge/2010/07/22/2010-07-22-trunk-builds/>
  23. # [06:44] * Quits: miketaylr (miketaylr@24.42.95.108) (Client exited)
  24. # [07:17] * Quits: gavin (gavin@99.226.207.11) (Ping timeout)
  25. # [07:18] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9919] samp and kbd are practically unused and just clutter the language. They should be removed, like acronym, and code should be broadened to include their semantics (or maybe tt should be re-permitted and defined in the fashion of b and i). <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0395.html>
  26. # [07:22] * Joins: gavin (gavin@99.226.207.11)
  27. # [07:27] * Joins: Julian (chatzilla@80.143.248.230)
  28. # [08:41] * Joins: MikeSmith (MikeSmith@114.48.45.206)
  29. # [08:45] * Quits: Julian (chatzilla@80.143.248.230) (Ping timeout)
  30. # [09:16] * Joins: Julian (chatzilla@217.91.35.233)
  31. # [09:28] * Quits: Julian (chatzilla@217.91.35.233) (Connection reset by peer)
  32. # [09:30] * Joins: tH (Rob@87.102.89.10)
  33. # [09:34] * Joins: Julian (chatzilla@217.91.35.233)
  34. # [09:50] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10224] please add IDs to each attribute row in "List of event handler content attributes" table <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0397.html> ** [Bug 10197] xml:space is not listed as a global attribute <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0396.html>
  35. # [10:15] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: add ids for MikeSmith (whatwg r5193) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Jul/0079.html> ** workers; hixie: Make a WebSRT-only view for Jonas. (whatwg r5192) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Jul/0078.html> ** SSE; hixie: Make a WebSRT-only view for Jonas. (whatwg r5192) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Jul/0077.html> ** webDB; hixie: Make a WebSRT
  36. # [10:18] <MikeSmith> @more
  37. # [10:18] <pimpbot> MikeSmith: Error: You haven't asked me a command; perhaps you want to see someone else's more. To do so, call this command with that person's nick.
  38. # [10:18] <MikeSmith> @changes
  39. # [10:18] <pimpbot> MikeSmith: hixie: add ids for MikeSmith (whatwg r5193) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Jul/0079.html> ** workers; hixie: Make a WebSRT-only view for Jonas. (whatwg r5192) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Jul/0078.html> ** SSE; hixie: Make a WebSRT-only view for Jonas. (whatwg r5192) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html- (34 more messages)
  40. # [10:18] <MikeSmith> @more
  41. # [10:18] <pimpbot> MikeSmith: diffs/2010Jul/0077.html> ** webDB; hixie: Make a WebSRT-only view for Jonas. (whatwg r5192) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Jul/0076.html> ** webstorage; hixie: Make a WebSRT-only view for Jonas. (whatwg r5192) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Jul/0075.html> ** websocket; hixie: Make a WebSRT-only view for Jonas. (whatwg r5192) (33 more messages)
  42. # [10:20] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 10224] please add IDs to each attribute row in "List of event handler content attributes" table" (3 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0399.html>
  43. # [10:41] * Quits: Julian (chatzilla@217.91.35.233) (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.7/20100713130626])
  44. # [10:45] * Joins: Julian (chatzilla@217.91.35.233)
  45. # [10:51] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 10224] please add IDs to each attribute row in "List of event handler content attributes" table" (4 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0400.html>
  46. # [11:02] * Quits: Lachy (Lachlan@84.215.59.50) (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
  47. # [11:16] * Joins: Lachy (Lachlan@213.236.208.22)
  48. # [11:21] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 10224] please add IDs to each attribute row in "List of event handler content attributes" table" (5 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0401.html>
  49. # [11:35] * Quits: Lachy (Lachlan@213.236.208.22) (Quit: Leaving)
  50. # [11:35] * Joins: Lachy (Lachlan@213.236.208.22)
  51. # [11:44] * Joins: MikeSmithX (MikeSmith@114.48.2.95)
  52. # [11:46] * Quits: MikeSmith (MikeSmith@114.48.45.206) (Ping timeout)
  53. # [11:51] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 10224] please add IDs to each attribute row in "List of event handler content attributes" table" (6 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0402.html>
  54. # [12:22] * Joins: tlr (tlr@128.30.52.169)
  55. # [14:13] * Joins: plh (plh@128.30.52.28)
  56. # [14:15] * Quits: Julian (chatzilla@217.91.35.233) (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.7/20100713130626])
  57. # [14:15] * Joins: Julian (chatzilla@217.91.35.233)
  58. # [15:20] * Joins: miketaylr (miketaylr@24.42.95.108)
  59. # [15:24] <MikeSmithX> issue-4?
  60. # [15:24] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-4
  61. # [15:24] <trackbot> ISSUE-4 -- HTML Versioning and DOCTYPEs -- open
  62. # [15:24] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/4
  63. # [15:24] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-4 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  64. # [15:24] <MikeSmithX> issue-84?
  65. # [15:24] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-84
  66. # [15:24] <trackbot> ISSUE-84 -- Should spec discourage use of "legacy" doctypes? -- open
  67. # [15:24] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/84
  68. # [15:24] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-84 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  69. # [15:31] * Joins: aroben (aroben@71.58.77.15)
  70. # [15:46] <pimpbot> changes: mike: make spec links for window event-handler attributes point to the right place <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Jul/0080.html>
  71. # [15:59] <Julian> "I object to this change proposal, because it changes the ASCII reference to something that doesn't define ASCII in terms of Unicode code points."
  72. # [15:59] <Julian> Henri, that's also the case for the current spec text.
  73. # [16:08] <hsivonen> Julian: really? I thought the RFC defined things in terms of Unicode even if in a roundabout way
  74. # [16:08] <hsivonen> s/defined/described/
  75. # [16:10] <Julian> RFC 1345? :-)
  76. # [16:10] <Julian> Nope.
  77. # [16:11] <hsivonen> Julian: see page 5 and onwards
  78. # [16:12] <hsivonen> Julian: 2nd field is the ISO 2DIS 10646 code in hexadecimal.
  79. # [16:13] <Julian> ok, I see. Thanks for the clarification.
  80. # [16:13] <Julian> I agree that having this would be good, but that still doesn't make 1345 the right ref.
  81. # [16:15] * Philip suggests just writing a new definition of ASCII in the WHATWG's complete.html and then not needing any external references at all
  82. # [16:16] * jgraham suggests using http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ascii
  83. # [16:16] <pimpbot> Title: Let me google that for you (at lmgtfy.com)
  84. # [16:17] <hsivonen> I think this should be left to the editor's discretion instead of bikeshedding
  85. # [16:22] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10230] New: Decisions need to be made in timely manner <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0404.html> ** [Bug 10084] Please consider adding a section on Chair recusal in deciding escalated issues <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0403.html>
  86. # [16:40] <Julian> I think it would be great if we had a stable document that defines US-ASCII (charset) as a subset of Unicode and US-ASCII (encoding) as the simple encoding it is.
  87. # [16:40] <Julian> but we don't have that (yet)
  88. # [16:40] <Julian> in the meantime pointing to something just because it's an RFC doesn't solve the issue
  89. # [16:41] <Julian> if it was bikeshedding, the simplest fix would be to apply the change as proposed by those in the IETF who care
  90. # [16:41] <Julian> but that's why we have a poll now, let's execute it
  91. # [16:52] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10230] Decisions need to be made in timely manner <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0405.html>
  92. # [17:01] * Joins: sjm (stanmanosk@71.41.165.57)
  93. # [17:01] * Quits: sjm (stanmanosk@71.41.165.57) (Quit: sjm)
  94. # [17:02] * Joins: stan (sjm@71.41.165.57)
  95. # [17:03] * Quits: stan (sjm@71.41.165.57) (Quit: stan)
  96. # [17:34] * Quits: mjs (mjs@69.181.42.237) (Quit: mjs)
  97. # [17:42] * Joins: mjs (mjs@69.181.42.237)
  98. # [17:46] * Quits: MikeSmithX (MikeSmith@114.48.2.95) (Ping timeout)
  99. # [17:47] * Quits: Julian (chatzilla@217.91.35.233) (Ping timeout)
  100. # [17:51] * Quits: mjs (mjs@69.181.42.237) (Quit: mjs)
  101. # [17:52] * Joins: MikeSmithX (MikeSmith@114.48.23.48)
  102. # [18:23] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10231] New: When a track element is created, it must be associated with a new timed track (with its value set as defined below) and its corresponding new TimedTrack object. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0406.html>
  103. # [18:29] * Joins: Julian (chatzilla@80.143.248.230)
  104. # [18:42] * Quits: tlr (tlr@128.30.52.169) (Client exited)
  105. # [19:01] * Quits: Lachy (Lachlan@213.236.208.22) (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
  106. # [19:14] * Joins: Lachy (Lachlan@84.215.59.50)
  107. # [19:15] * Quits: Lachy (Lachlan@84.215.59.50) (Quit: Leaving)
  108. # [19:19] * Quits: arronei (arronei@131.107.0.103) (Ping timeout)
  109. # [19:23] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9824] comentariu destul de mare pentru ca editorul sa il inteleeaga <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0407.html>
  110. # [19:24] * Joins: arronei (arronei@131.107.0.81)
  111. # [19:39] * Joins: sierk (sbornema@89.204.153.203)
  112. # [19:40] * Quits: sierk (sbornema@89.204.153.203) (Quit: sierk)
  113. # [19:43] * Joins: Lachy (Lachlan@84.215.59.50)
  114. # [20:23] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 9919] Remove kbd, samp, and maybe var, like acronym; expand <code>/<tt>/<i> or whatever to replace them" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0409.html>
  115. # [20:49] * Joins: laplink (link@193.157.66.13)
  116. # [21:21] * Quits: laplink (link@193.157.66.13) (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
  117. # [21:28] * Joins: laplink (link@193.157.66.13)
  118. # [21:55] * Quits: miketaylr (miketaylr@24.42.95.108) (Quit: miketaylr)
  119. # [22:04] * Joins: miketaylr (miketaylr@24.42.95.108)
  120. # [22:09] * Quits: laplink (link@193.157.66.13) (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
  121. # [22:48] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Typo (whatwg r5194) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Jul/0081.html>
  122. # [23:02] * Quits: plh (plh@128.30.52.28) (Quit: always accept cookies)
  123. # [23:18] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: typo (whatwg r5195) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Jul/0082.html>
  124. # [23:21] * Quits: Julian (chatzilla@80.143.248.230) (Ping timeout)
  125. # [23:36] * Quits: miketaylr (miketaylr@24.42.95.108) (Client exited)
  126. # [23:44] * Joins: MikeSmithXX (MikeSmith@111.188.4.224)
  127. # [23:46] * Quits: MikeSmithX (MikeSmith@114.48.23.48) (Ping timeout)
  128. # Session Close: Sat Jul 24 00:00:00 2010

The end :)