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  1. # Session Start: Wed Aug 11 00:00:00 2010
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  4. # [00:21] <pimpbot> changes: sam: Add issue 116 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Aug/0085.html> ** sam: Various updates <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Aug/0084.html>
  5. # [00:21] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10343] width and height are said to be DOMStrings in this interface, but in fact Chrome, Firefox, and Opera all output "number" on this test. data:text/html,<!doctype html><script>alert(typeof document.createElement("video").width);</script> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Aug/0148.html> ** [Bug 10343] New: width and height are said to be DOMStrings in this interface, but in fact Chrome, Firefox, and Opera a
  6. # [00:51] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Make target=_self override the seamless attribute's navigation mechanism. (whatwg r5275) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Aug/0086.html>
  7. # [00:51] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10344] New: col.span and colgroup.span should not be limited to only non-negative numbers greater than zero. Chrome, Firefox, Opera, and Safari all agree that this alerts "false" (didn't test in IE because it doesn't support data URLs properly, too lazy): data:text/ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Aug/0149.html>
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  10. # [01:21] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10344] col.span, colgroup.span, textarea.cols, textarea.rows should not be limited to only non-negative numbers greater than zero <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Aug/0151.html> ** [Bug 10344] col.span and colgroup.span should not be limited to only non-negative numbers greater than zero. Chrome, Firefox, Opera, and Safari all agree that this alerts "false" (didn't test in IE because it doesn't support data U
  11. # [01:51] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: img.complete should be true if src=''. (whatwg r5276) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Aug/0087.html>
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  24. # [03:21] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8490] Shouldn't postMessage throw SYNTAX_ERR when targetOrigin is a relative URL (e.g. '/')? [sp] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Aug/0152.html>
  25. # [03:23] <pimpbot> changes: postmsg; hixie: drop support for '/' origins in postMessage(), and require that paths be ignored. (whatwg r5277) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Aug/0088.html>
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  30. # [05:54] <pimpbot> changes: microdata; hixie: Try to clarify an example (whatwg r5278) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Aug/0093.html> ** device; hixie: Try to clarify an example (whatwg r5278) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Aug/0091.html> ** postmsg; hixie: Try to clarify an example (whatwg r5278) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Aug/0090.html> ** 2Dapi; hixie: Try to clarif
  31. # [06:52] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10345] hspace and vspace on HTMLImageElement are signed long in DOM 2 HTML. Was there a good reason for the incompatible change to unsigned long? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Aug/0154.html> ** [Bug 10345] New: hspace and vspace on HTMLImageElement are signed long in DOM 2 HTML. Was there a good reason for the incompatible change to unsigned long? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzill
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  47. # [10:47] <pimpbot> planet: Progress 20100811 <http://bluegriffon.org/post/2010/08/11/Progress-20100811>
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  58. # [13:11] <anne5> hmm
  59. # [13:11] <anne5> still no resources/testharness.js
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  65. # [14:22] <anne5> so go edit Julian!
  66. # [14:22] <anne5> jesus
  67. # [14:23] <anne5> way to reiterate old arguments a thousand times for no apparent benefit
  68. # [14:23] <anne5> ooh, plh, any updates?
  69. # [14:23] <plh> nope :(
  70. # [14:23] <plh> sorry
  71. # [14:23] <plh> several of our folks are on vacation
  72. # [14:24] <anne5> why is hg access partitioned?
  73. # [14:25] <anne5> i guess that is mostly the bottleneck here
  74. # [14:30] <plh> not sure what you mean here. are you asking why hg configuration can only be changed by our system folks?
  75. # [14:30] <plh> or why do we have several repositories on dvcs?
  76. # [14:30] <anne5> aah, I guess not everything on dvcs is on test.w3.org
  77. # [14:31] <anne5> I thought it was more like dev.w3.org
  78. # [14:32] <anne5> where you can do pretty much anything with an account
  79. # [14:33] <plh> not exactly, because each hg repository chooses how it wants to be unfolded on test.w3.org
  80. # [14:34] <plh> in html and webapps, it's only the tip
  81. # [14:34] <plh> and not all hg repositories are mirrored on test.w3.org
  82. # [14:35] <anne5> yeah, I realize that now
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  84. # [15:54] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10230] Decisions need to be made in timely manner <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Aug/0155.html>
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  87. # [16:55] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 10230] Decisions need to be made in timely manner" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Aug/0156.html>
  88. # [16:57] <pimpbot> changes: sam: Straw polls <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Aug/0094.html>
  89. # [17:25] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 10230] Decisions need to be made in timely manner" (3 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Aug/0157.html>
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  92. # [17:33] <plh> anne5, you should be all set. see http://test.w3.org/resources/
  93. # [17:33] <pimpbot> Title: Index of /resources (at test.w3.org)
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  95. # [17:40] <anne5> oh sweet, gonna play with that tonight
  96. # [17:47] <jgraham> plh: Cool
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  98. # [17:55] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 10346] Should define 'class' better" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Aug/0160.html> ** [Bug 10346] New: Shoudl define clas better: "may be used for labelling, styling or indicating meaning" c/f use of class in microformats <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Aug/0158.html>
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  109. # [18:49] <pimpbot> planet: Don’t Build from Scratch. You Now Have an HTML5 Boilerplate to Work With <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ajaxian/~3/al8IGiDtoao/dont-build-from-scratch-you-now-have-an-html5-boilerplate-to-work-with>
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  117. # [20:18] <anne5> plh, hey, http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/webapps/file/5814514eeba4/tests/XMLHttpRequest/ are not live?
  118. # [20:19] <pimpbot> Title: webapps: files (at dvcs.w3.org)
  119. # [20:19] <anne5> plh, on http://test.w3.org/webapps/tests/XMLHttpRequest/ that is
  120. # [20:19] <pimpbot> Title: Index of /webapps/tests/XMLHttpRequest (at test.w3.org)
  121. # [20:19] <plh> they're supposed to
  122. # [20:19] <plh> I thought they fixed that :(
  123. # [20:19] <plh> obviously, there is a bug somewhere
  124. # [20:19] <plh> argh
  125. # [20:20] <plh> this one might not be fixed until next week :-/
  126. # [20:20] <anne5> that is somewhat unfortunate, but I guess it can all wait
  127. # [20:21] <plh> sorry about that
  128. # [20:21] <plh> sending email around
  129. # [20:21] <plh> worksd fine in the html repository. maybe I should make a new charter to move xhr into the html wg :)
  130. # [20:22] <anne5> it used to there :)
  131. # [20:23] <gsnedders> Did it?
  132. # [20:23] * gsnedders thought it went WHAT WG -> WebApps
  133. # [20:23] <plh> I think it was in Web API at some point as well
  134. # [20:23] <gsnedders> Like, back in '06 prior to the new HTML WG
  135. # [20:24] <anne5> sure, same same
  136. # [20:24] <gsnedders> plh: Well, yeah. Web Apps and its predessor
  137. # [20:34] <plh> anne5, looking at the vacation calendar, it might take up to the 17 to get this fixed :-/ I managed to find a workaround for /resources but don't think I'll be able to on that one unfortunately
  138. # [20:35] <anne5> k, i'll go work on something else then
  139. # [20:58] <pimpbot> changes: 2Dapi; hixie: compositing clarifications (whatwg r5280) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Aug/0096.html> ** 2Dapi; hixie: Try to reduce confusion over the transformation API's arguments (whatwg r5279) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Aug/0095.html>
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  142. # [21:28] <pimpbot> changes: sam: Link to correct survey (props: shelleyp) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Aug/0097.html>
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  147. # [22:26] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 10345] hspace and vspace on HTMLImageElement are signed long in DOM 2 HTML. Was there a good reason for the incompatible change to unsigned long?" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Aug/0164.html> ** [Bug 9914] hspace, vspace are long, not unsigned long <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Aug/0162.html>
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  150. # [22:50] <pimpbot> planet: Firefox 4 Beta: Latest Update is Here – Experimenting With Multi-touch <http://hacks.mozilla.org/2010/08/firefox4-beta3/>
  151. # [22:58] <pimpbot> changes: 2Dapi; hixie: Fix all the bits that referred to img.complete and assumed it was not returning 'true' when src was missing (that changed recently). (whatwg r5282) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Aug/0101.html> ** hixie: Fix all the bits that referred to img.complete and assumed it was not returning 'true' when src was missing (that changed recently). (whatwg r5282) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-
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  153. # [23:26] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9828] Update "Embedding custom non-visible data" with guidance for library authors to avoid naming collisions <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Aug/0165.html>
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  156. # [23:56] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10331] What do "defined to contain a URL" and "defined to contain one or more URLs" mean? There are some cases that are unclear. For instance, useMap can only contain (a subset of) valid URLs AFAICT, does that count? Also, obsolete stuff like applet.src has n <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Aug/0166.html>
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