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  1. # Session Start: Tue Oct 12 00:00:00 2010
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  3. # [00:03] <pimpbot> planet: IndexedDB, Milestone 8, ES5 Strict Mode and progress on Print Preview <http://peter.sh/2010/10/indexeddb-milestone-8-es5-strict-mode-and-progress-on-print-preview/>
  4. # [00:05] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: add a note about script execution (whatwg r5597) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0036.html>
  5. # [00:07] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10539] Please add a note about script moving a script that blocks the parser <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2087.html> ** [Bug 10841] We require a method to allow the user to control playback timing in order to have more time to understand the material. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2086.html> ** [Bug 10539] Please add a note about script moving a script that
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  10. # [00:35] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Mention Format=Flowed explicitly. (whatwg r5598) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0037.html>
  11. # [00:37] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 10743] This is no longer correct -> In the following fragment, however, the attribute's value is actually "?original=1©=2", not the intended "?original=1&copy=2":" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2093.html> ** [Bug 10624] [Selection] Selection anchorNode/anchorOffset/focusNode/focusOffset do not match existing browser behaviour <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-htm
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  15. # [01:05] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Update the syntax error example in light of changes to the conformance rules. (whatwg r5599) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0038.html>
  16. # [01:08] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10901] Use same parsing for HTML <script> and SVG <script> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2101.html> ** [Bug 10933] add link types that create hyperlinks to 7.4.2 Focus management <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2100.html> ** [Bug 10827] i18n comment 23 : script dialog text direction <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2099.html
  17. # [01:38] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11008] New: testing annotations to see if it appears automatically on the web page. This is like CY Comments that I developed earlier but never released it in the fear of "CYBERLITTERING" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2102.html>
  18. # [02:08] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11008] testing annotations to see if it appears automatically on the web page. This is like CY Comments that I developed earlier but never released it in the fear of "CYBERLITTERING" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2103.html>
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  20. # [02:36] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: legend { display: list-item } should no longer get a bullet (whatwg r5602) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0041.html> ** hixie: <input type=reset> resets <input type=file> too, oops (whatwg r5601) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0040.html> ** hixie: Redefine how we interact with RFC 2388 (multipart/form-data) in submission (whatwg r5600) <http://lists.w3.org/Archi
  21. # [02:38] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10546] It looks like at least some browsers restrict legend display values to "block" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2110.html> ** [Bug 10771] User agents disagree with each other and with the spec on rendering of multiple legends if the first one is styled <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2109.html> ** [Bug 10546] It looks like at least some browsers restrict le
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  24. # [04:04] <pimpbot> planet: On HTML5 And The Future Of Privacy <http://robert.accettura.com/blog/2010/10/11/on-html5-and-the-future-of-privacy/>
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  27. # [06:39] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11009] New: Hixie: TJs recommds .cgi case: main / / home <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2111.html>
  28. # [08:09] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10956] If you were to say: The Business Continuity Institute (BCI) ... should you write it as <dfn>The Business Continuity Institute (<abbr title="The Business Continuity Institute">BCI</abbr>)</dfn> or The Business Continuity Institute (<dfn><abbr title="The <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2112.html>
  29. # [08:39] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 10411] Why are all the RFCs referenced in .txt versions? The HTML versions are more convenient (and it's silly for HTML to avoid the HTML versions!)." (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2130.html> ** "[Bug 10450] Allow lists to be used as menus or tab sets" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2128.html> ** [Bug 10823] i18n
  30. # [09:07] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: try to clarify the applicable spec stuff (whatwg r5605) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0049.html> ** workers; hixie: update ietf refs (whatwg r5604) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0048.html> ** webDB; hixie: update ietf refs (whatwg r5604) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0047.html> ** webstorage; hixie: update ietf refs (whatw
  31. # [09:09] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7471] JimJJewett gmail: Make explicit reasons for *not* exposing aspect ratio/clipping. (Security vs simplification). Deals with http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/2007/12/SMIL-AudioVideoControlConcepts.html#L2398 note1 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2137.html> ** [Bug 10966] This page kept crashing my Safari browser (v5.02). It happens after a few scroll up/down and clicking on links with combination of back
  32. # [09:39] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10914] Allow multiple space separated values for the ARIA role attribute <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2145.html> ** [Bug 10975] from gmail, JimJJewett said: Audio and Video should show the fallback content (for older browsers) if they do not understand the codec -- even if they understand video (or audio) itself <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2144.html> ** [B
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  34. # [10:08] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: EUC-JP reference. (whatwg r5607) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0051.html> ** hixie: remove some non-normative text that was confusing some readers (whatwg r5606) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0050.html>
  35. # [10:10] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10559] blur() is handy, and should not be ignored <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2153.html> ** "[Bug 7444] EUC-JP and ISO-2022-JP also need replacement encodings: CP51932 (or eucJP-ms) and CP50221." (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2152.html> ** [Bug 10802] Limit the number of identical items on the list of active formatting elements by rem
  36. # [10:40] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 10984] HTMLBaseElement.href reflects incorrectly" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2160.html> ** [Bug 10771] User agents disagree with each other and with the spec on rendering of multiple legends if the first one is styled <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2158.html> ** [Bug 10905] clarify how assigning an accesskey to an element affects the
  37. # [11:08] <pimpbot> changes: websocket; hixie: typo (whatwg r5609) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0053.html> ** hixie: base.href shouldn't resolve twice... (whatwg r5608) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0052.html>
  38. # [11:10] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10481] Default role of <IMG> should be "img" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2173.html> ** [Bug 10462] merge ARIA mapping tables and list <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2172.html> ** [Bug 10449] Consider allowing various command-like ARIA roles for h1-h6 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2171.html> ** [Bug 10448] Consider
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  43. # [11:38] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: remove redundant requirement (whatwg r5611) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0055.html> ** hixie: ref the polyglot spec (whatwg r5610) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0054.html>
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  46. # [11:40] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10812] i18n comment 7 : line breaks in textarea and pre elements <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2190.html> ** [Bug 10909] Clarify how fieldset's first legend should behave if the fieldset is disabled because of another disabled fieldset <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2189.html> ** [Bug 9659] Initial U+0000 should not set frameset-ok to "not ok" <http://lists
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  48. # [11:46] <anne> Julian, yeah "unless something changes"; enjoying the trolling?
  49. # [11:48] <Julian> no, enjoying to point people to things you didn't say in the blog comment.
  50. # [11:48] <Julian> since when is citing people "trolling"?
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  52. # [12:08] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Try to remove legacy crazy. If this breaks any pages please let me know. (whatwg r5613) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0057.html> ** hixie: fix bitrot (whatwg r5612) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0056.html>
  53. # [12:10] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10355] Kill most or all of the special IDL attributes for marquee <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2207.html> ** [Bug 10824] i18n comment 20 : list item marker display and position <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2206.html> ** [Bug 10748] Second example snippet is incompatible with accompanying text <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010
  54. # [12:38] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: ref fix (whatwg r5615) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0059.html> ** hixie: xref (whatwg r5614) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0058.html>
  55. # [12:40] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10828] i18n comment 4 : new attribute: bidibreak <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2223.html> ** [Bug 10807] i18n comment 1 : new attribute: ubi <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2222.html> ** [Bug 11004] Add an example of suggestion labels being used and rendered for input type="range" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2221.html>
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  58. # [13:09] <anne> selectively quoting and then drawing false conclusions is trolling
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  60. # [13:10] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10962] Change <param> to be dynamic <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2243.html> ** [Bug 10583] [Selection] toString should return only the text within the selection that is visible to the user <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2242.html> ** [Bug 9514] [Selection] Specify Selection.modify() <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2241.htm
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  64. # [13:38] <pimpbot> changes: sam: Add bug 10066 to issue-129 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0061.html> ** sam: Record issue 129 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0060.html>
  65. # [13:40] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10815] i18n comment 10 : block elements with display:inline should get ubi instead of default dir <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2246.html> ** [Bug 8000] ARIA roles added to the a element should be conforming in HTML5 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2245.html> ** [Bug 10814] i18n comment 9 : block-display elements should act as UBA paragraph breaks <http://li
  66. # [14:11] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8000] ARIA roles added to the a element should be conforming in HTML5 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2249.html> ** [Bug 11011] New: Since Javascript does not support mode specifiers inside the regular expression, there is no simple way of matching a single word case-insensitively besides turning into [Ww][Oo][Rr][Dd] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2248.html> **
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  68. # [14:41] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10853] HTML5 lacks a verbose description mechanism <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2257.html> ** [Bug 10921] put back direct link to the W3C version of the canvas 2d context spec <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2256.html> ** [Bug 9936] onclick attributes on any element that is not focusable should trigger a conformance error <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Publi
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  70. # [15:07] <pimpbot> planet: Opera Developer Network: Schöne neue Welt von HTML5 - WebTech 2010 Mainz <http://my.opera.com/ODIN/blog/show.dml/19031532>
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  72. # [15:11] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11011] Since Javascript does not support mode specifiers inside the regular expression, there is no simple way of matching a single word case-insensitively besides turning into [Ww][Oo][Rr][Dd] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2260.html> ** [Bug 10899] DOMActivate is deprecated in DOM L3 Events <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2259.html> ** [Bug 11011] Since Javasc
  73. # [15:41] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10905] clarify how assigning an accesskey to an element affects the elements default role <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2264.html> ** [Bug 10975] from gmail, JimJJewett said: Audio and Video should show the fallback content (for older browsers) if they do not understand the codec -- even if they understand video (or audio) itself <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2263
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  76. # [16:11] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11012] Also say that <area>/image maps is an alternative to @longdesc <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2266.html> ** [Bug 11013] Don't honor <meta> pragmas that don't come from the network stream or document.write <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2265.html>
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  80. # [17:11] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 10963] Table prohibited from being used as a layout aid" (4 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2270.html>
  81. # [17:41] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8716] Replace img Guidance for Conformance Checkers with Suggested Text for Short Text Alternatives <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2279.html> ** [Bug 8171] Implement the text alternatives proposal from WAI <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2278.html> ** [Bug 10708] change normative alt text authoring requirements to informative advice <http://lists.w3.org/Archi
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  85. # [18:07] <pimpbot> planet: Progress 20101012 <http://bluegriffon.org/post/2010/10/12/Progress-20101012>
  86. # [18:09] <pimpbot> changes: sam: Issue 130 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0062.html>
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  96. # [20:40] <pimpbot> changes: sam: Associate bug 10720 with issue-41 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0063.html>
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  98. # [20:42] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10963] Table prohibited from being used as a layout aid <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2312.html> ** [Bug 10720] Remove modifications to Extensibility section <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2311.html> ** [Bug 11011] Since Javascript does not support mode specifiers inside the regular expression, there is no simple way of matching a single word case-insensitivel
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  103. # [21:12] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 10720] Remove modifications to Extensibility section" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2314.html>
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  111. # [21:42] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11013] Don't honor <meta> pragmas that don't come from the network stream or document.write <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2319.html> ** [Bug 11012] Also say that <area>/image maps is an alternative to @longdesc <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2318.html> ** [Bug 10975] from gmail, JimJJewett said: Audio and Video should show the fallback content (for older brows
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  115. # [22:12] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10975] from gmail, JimJJewett said: Audio and Video should show the fallback content (for older browsers) if they do not understand the codec -- even if they understand video (or audio) itself <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2322.html> ** [Bug 10167] HTML5 Polyglot spec breaks RDFa case sensitivity <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2321.html> ** [Bug 10899] DOMActi
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  118. # [22:43] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11011] Since Javascript does not support mode specifiers inside the regular expression, there is no simple way of matching a single word case-insensitively besides turning into [Ww][Oo][Rr][Dd] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2327.html> ** [Bug 10902] <video> element needs to support some form of DRM solution <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2326.html> ** [Bug 109
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  126. # [23:43] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 9767] Consider ignoring document.write() when IE ignores it if comes from the network task source" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2332.html> ** [Bug 10167] HTML5 Polyglot spec breaks RDFa case sensitivity <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2330.html> ** "[Bug 10642] No alternative text description for video key frame (poster)" (2 messages in
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