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  5. # [00:11] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Move Selection to DOM Range. (whatwg r5617) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0065.html>
  6. # [00:13] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10901] Use same parsing for HTML <script> and SVG <script> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2340.html> ** [Bug 10798] [Selection] Find a new home for Selection <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2339.html> ** "[Bug 10583] [Selection] toString should return only the text within the selection that is visible to the user" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/A
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  17. # [01:39] <pimpbot> planet: Speaking and moving <http://adactio.com/journal/1703/>
  18. # [01:43] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11016] New: Give the TimedTrackCueList getter operation an identifier <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2344.html> ** "[Bug 10642] No alternative text description for video key frame (poster)" (3 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2343.html>
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  21. # [02:13] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10899] DOMActivate is deprecated in DOM L3 Events <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2345.html>
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  25. # [03:15] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10899] DOMActivate is deprecated in DOM L3 Events <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2348.html> ** [Bug 10901] Use same parsing for HTML <script> and SVG <script> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2347.html> ** [Bug 11011] Since Javascript does not support mode specifiers inside the regular expression, there is no simple way of matching a single word case-insensitivel
  26. # [03:45] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10546] It looks like at least some browsers restrict legend display values to "block" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2349.html>
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  31. # [05:46] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10901] Use same parsing for HTML <script> and SVG <script> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2350.html>
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  42. # [10:17] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 10901] Use same parsing for HTML <script> and SVG <script>" (3 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2352.html>
  43. # [10:47] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10902] <video> element needs to support some form of DRM solution <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2355.html> ** [Bug 10798] [Selection] Find a new home for Selection <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2354.html> ** [Bug 11017] New: Decrease heading level for "APIs for the text field selections" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/235
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  45. # [11:18] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10202] use of "codecs" parameter <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2358.html> ** [Bug 10902] <video> element needs to support some form of DRM solution <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2357.html> ** [Bug 10320] [WebSRT voice] Allow an arbitrary string as the voice for forwards compatilbity <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2356.htm
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  49. # [11:48] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10202] use of "codecs" parameter <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2361.html> ** [Bug 10901] Use same parsing for HTML <script> and SVG <script> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2360.html> ** [Bug 11019] New: The interface HTMLTableCellElement should provide a readonly attribute, that returns a NodeList of th elements which have been assigned to a cell via the "algo
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  51. # [12:18] <pimpbot> changes: workers; hixie: wd pub preparation (whatwg r5618) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0074.html> ** webDB; hixie: wd pub preparation (whatwg r5618) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0076.html> ** webstorage; hixie: wd pub preparation (whatwg r5618) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0073.html> ** websocket; hixie: wd pub preparation (whatwg r56
  52. # [12:18] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11013] Don't honor <meta> pragmas that don't come from the network stream or document.write <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2364.html> ** [Bug 11021] New: Drop UndoManager from the W3C version since it's not mature enough to be called LC. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2363.html> ** [Bug 11020] New: Update the style sheet for the W3C copy to set the font-size fo
  53. # [12:48] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11011] Since Javascript does not support mode specifiers inside the regular expression, there is no simple way of matching a single word case-insensitively besides turning into [Ww][Oo][Rr][Dd] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2371.html> ** [Bug 8806] iframe srcdoc examples <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2370.html> ** [Bug 10419] <video> should allow muted as a c
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  57. # [13:01] * Topic is 'HTML WG timeline: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Sep/0074.html + discussion guidelines: http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/DiscussionGuidelines'
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  59. # [13:18] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10901] Use same parsing for HTML <script> and SVG <script> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2380.html> ** [Bug 10902] <video> element needs to support some form of DRM solution <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2379.html> ** [Bug 11016] Give the TimedTrackCueList getter operation an identifier <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2378
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  62. # [13:48] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11022] New: http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seo-directmail-lists.com%2F <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2381.html>
  63. # [14:18] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11024] New: asfasdfasdf <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2384.html> ** [Bug 11023] New: asfasdfasdf <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2383.html> ** [Bug 10899] DOMActivate is deprecated in DOM L3 Events <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2382.html>
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  67. # [14:48] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10801] Limit the number of iterations in the loops in the AAA <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2385.html>
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  71. # [15:19] <pimpbot> changes: sam: Update status on 32, 100, 103, 125, 126 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0077.html>
  72. # [15:19] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11026] New: "there must be a space character separating the two" The validator doesn't seem to know about this. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2387.html> ** [Bug 10802] Limit the number of identical items on the list of active formatting elements by removing previous duplicates when adding new items <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2386.html>
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  75. # [15:49] <pimpbot> changes: sam: Update issues 74, 105, and 131 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0078.html>
  76. # [15:49] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10902] <video> element needs to support some form of DRM solution <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2389.html> ** [Bug 10419] <video> should allow muted as a content attribute <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2388.html>
  77. # [16:19] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10902] <video> element needs to support some form of DRM solution <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2399.html> ** [Bug 10770] Should it really be OK to have timestamps with trailing garbage like <00:01.500b0rk>? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2398.html> ** [Bug 10937] Add track element to list of elements where itemValue reflects the src attribute. <http://list
  78. # [17:19] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11027] New: provide text alternatives for images feedback from Everett Zufelt <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2400.html>
  79. # [17:49] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10167] HTML5 Polyglot spec breaks RDFa case sensitivity <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2404.html> ** [Bug 10807] i18n comment 1 : new attribute: ubi <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2403.html> ** [Bug 11013] Don't honor <meta> pragmas that don't come from the network stream or document.write <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/240
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  85. # [18:19] <pimpbot> changes: sam: Record change proposal for ISSUE-122 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0079.html>
  86. # [18:19] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10419] <video> should allow muted as a content attribute <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2406.html> ** [Bug 11024] asfasdfasdf <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2405.html>
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  89. # [18:49] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11028] New: please allow true/false (or some way to have a value but switch the attribute off). this has always been annoying. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2408.html> ** [Bug 10898] Additional attributes should be wired up to window when on body <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2407.html>
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  91. # [18:58] <Julian> MikeSmith, is this "This is an out-of-date copy" banner new?
  92. # [18:59] <Julian> it doesn't seem to disappear, even if I follow the link
  93. # [19:02] <MikeSmith> Julian: it is new, and the intent is that it will not be present in the Editor's Draft after we publish the updated WD
  94. # [19:03] <MikeSmith> that is, the ED will be reverted and it will only show up on the WD
  95. # [19:06] <Julian> ah, so this is temporary...?
  96. # [19:06] <Julian> BTW: I disagree that this warning is a good thing. If we all agreed it was, we wouldn't be publishing Working Drafts, right?
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  98. # [19:15] <MikeSmith> Julian: it's temporary unless/until I can actually get agreement from our comm team to include it in some form
  99. # [19:16] <MikeSmith> it is arguably a little too much "in your face" than it needs to be
  100. # [19:16] <MikeSmith> but the reason for having it is a good one
  101. # [19:17] <MikeSmith> we have had problems with implementors using the WD versions when they really should be using the ED
  102. # [19:17] <MikeSmith> and those problems can end up wasting valuable time
  103. # [19:18] <MikeSmith> there certainly are some people in the group who would argue that it's counter-productive for us to be published WDs at all
  104. # [19:18] <MikeSmith> I don't agree with that
  105. # [19:20] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11028] please allow true/false (or some way to have a value but switch the attribute off). this has always been annoying. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2410.html> ** [Bug 10828] i18n comment 4 : new attribute: bidibreak <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2409.html>
  106. # [19:20] <MikeSmith> Julian: think there is a place for publishing WDs as long as we make it clear that it is a snapshot of the spec and that they should be aware of the ED and should consult it instead if they are currently working on an implementation
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  114. # [19:50] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10801] Limit the number of iterations in the loops in the AAA <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2411.html>
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  118. # [20:20] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10821] i18n comment 17 : setting input and textarea element direction through browser UI should set the dir attribute and trigger oninput event <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2417.html> ** [Bug 10802] Limit the number of identical items on the list of active formatting elements by removing previous duplicates when adding new items <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2416
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  124. # [20:50] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: remove unexpected damage in yesterday's checkin (no idea what happened - disk corruption?) (whatwg r5619) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0080.html>
  125. # [20:50] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10801] Limit the number of iterations in the loops in the AAA <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2421.html> ** [Bug 10802] Limit the number of identical items on the list of active formatting elements by removing previous duplicates when adding new items <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2420.html> ** [Bug 11028] please allow true/false (or some way to have a value bu
  126. # [21:20] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11013] Don't honor <meta> pragmas that don't come from the network stream or document.write <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2424.html> ** [Bug 9895] HTMLImageElement's "complete" attribute definition implies immediate image decoding <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2423.html> ** [Bug 10902] <video> element needs to support some form of DRM solution <http://list
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  135. # [22:20] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10815] i18n comment 10 : block elements with display:inline should get ubi instead of default dir <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2429.html> ** [Bug 10814] i18n comment 9 : block-display elements should act as UBA paragraph breaks <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2428.html>
  136. # [22:50] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Move scrollIntoView() to CSSOM View and update the other scroll algorithm to use the CSSOM View definition. (whatwg r5620) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0081.html>
  137. # [22:50] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10481] Default role of <IMG> should be "img" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2437.html> ** [Bug 10462] merge ARIA mapping tables and list <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2436.html> ** [Bug 10818] i18n comment 14 : title and alt attribute direction and two new attributes: titledir and altdir <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2435
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  143. # [23:21] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8000] ARIA roles added to the a element should be conforming in HTML5 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2439.html> ** [Bug 10819] i18n comment 15 : option element should support the dir attribute and be displayed accordingly both in the dropdown and after being chosen <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2438.html>
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