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  8. # [01:21] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 10625] Spec should cover stopping parsing on location.href = "foo"" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2783.html>
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  11. # [01:51] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10821] i18n comment 17 : setting input and textarea element direction through browser UI should set the dir attribute and trigger oninput event <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2784.html>
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  15. # [02:21] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10625] Spec should cover stopping parsing on location.href = "foo" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2786.html> ** [Bug 11112] New: If the timed track cue writing direction is horizontal, the timed track cue alignment is middle, the timed track cue text position is greater than 50, and direction is 'rtl':Let maximum size be the timed track cue text position multiplied by two. - this <http://lists.w3.org
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  34. # [08:53] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10828] i18n comment 4 : new attribute: bidibreak <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2789.html> ** [Bug 11112] If the timed track cue writing direction is horizontal, the timed track cue alignment is middle, the timed track cue text position is greater than 50, and direction is 'rtl':Let maximum size be the timed track cue text position multiplied by two. - this <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public
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  37. # [09:53] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10828] i18n comment 4 : new attribute: bidibreak <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2791.html> ** [Bug 10419] <video> should allow muted as a content attribute <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2790.html>
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  49. # [13:17] <CIA-1> v.nu-syntax: hsivonen * r566 /trunk/relaxng/datatype/java/src/org/whattf/datatype/ (Language.java data/LanguageData.java): Support RFC 5646. Thanks to Felix Sasaki.
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  61. # [14:24] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10808] i18n comment 2 : new dir attribute value: auto, and a new attribute: autodirmethod <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2792.html>
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  71. # [16:25] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 10808] i18n comment 2 : new dir attribute value: auto, and a new attribute: autodirmethod" (3 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2794.html>
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  91. # [17:59] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
  92. # [17:59] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference
  93. # [17:59] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  94. # [17:59] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  96. # [17:59] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  97. # [17:59] <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
  98. # [17:59] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  99. # [17:59] <trackbot> Date: 21 October 2010
  100. # [17:59] <paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2010OctDec/0003.html
  101. # [17:59] <pimpbot> Title: {agenda} HTML WG Telecon 2010-10-21: status of actions, calls, issues, heartbeat drafts, and TPAC from Sam Ruby on 2010-10-20 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from October to December 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
  102. # [18:01] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
  103. # [18:01] <Zakim> +Julian
  104. # [18:01] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  105. # [18:01] <Zakim> +Sam
  106. # [18:01] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
  107. # [18:01] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  108. # [18:02] <paulc> Chair: Sam Ruby
  109. # [18:02] <paulc> ScribeNick: paulc
  110. # [18:02] <paulc> zakim, code?
  111. # [18:02] <Zakim> the conference code is 4865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), paulc
  112. # [18:02] <oedipus> regrets+ Gregory_Rosmaita
  113. # [18:02] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  114. # [18:02] <paulc> zakim, who is here?
  115. # [18:02] <Zakim> On the phone I see Julian, [Microsoft], Sam, [Microsoft.a]
  116. # [18:02] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
  117. # [18:02] <Zakim> On IRC I see paulc, rubys, adrianba, anne, aroben_, tH, MikeSmith, oedipus, plh, Julian, tlr, arronei, karl, Hixie, Martijnc, webben, Dashiva, krijnh, gavin__, sideshow, gavin,
  118. # [18:03] <Zakim> ... ed_work, Philip, shepazu, pimpbot, inimino, jmb, Jedi, CIA-1, gsnedders, hober, Yudai, drry, hsivonen, jwm, trackbot, jgraham, RRSAgent, Shunsuke
  119. # [18:03] <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft.a] has adrianba, franko
  120. # [18:03] <Zakim> +adrianba, franko; got it
  121. # [18:03] <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike-goog
  122. # [18:03] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
  123. # [18:03] <Zakim> +Mike
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  129. # [18:05] * dsinger_ zakim, mute dsinger
  130. # [18:05] * Zakim dsinger should now be muted
  131. # [18:06] <dsinger_> zakim, who is here?
  132. # [18:06] <Zakim> On the phone I see Julian, [Microsoft], Sam, [Microsoft.a], Mike, dsinger (muted)
  133. # [18:06] <Zakim> [Microsoft.a] has adrianba, franko
  134. # [18:06] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
  135. # [18:06] <Zakim> On IRC I see dsinger_, kennyluck, Zakim, paulc, rubys, adrianba, anne, aroben_, tH, MikeSmith, oedipus, plh, Julian, tlr, arronei, karl, Hixie, Martijnc, webben, Dashiva, krijnh,
  136. # [18:06] <Zakim> ... gavin__, sideshow, gavin, ed_work, Philip, shepazu, pimpbot, inimino, jmb, Jedi, CIA-1, gsnedders, hober, Yudai, drry, hsivonen, jwm, trackbot, jgraham, RRSAgent, Shunsuke
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  138. # [18:06] <janina> zakim, call janina
  139. # [18:06] <Zakim> ok, janina; the call is being made
  140. # [18:06] <Zakim> +Janina
  141. # [18:06] <paulc> Topic: Action items due this week
  142. # [18:06] <paulc> ACTION-187?
  143. # [18:06] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-187
  144. # [18:06] <trackbot> ACTION-187 -- Maciej Stachowiak to inform the group that no comments on issue-9 requirements means they will be accepted -- due 2010-10-21 -- OPEN
  145. # [18:06] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/187
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  147. # [18:06] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-187 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  148. # [18:06] <paulc> No update from Maciej.
  149. # [18:07] <paulc> ACTION-187 due in one week
  150. # [18:07] * trackbot attempting to change due date on ACTION-187.
  151. # [18:07] <trackbot> ACTION-187 Inform the group that no comments on issue-9 requirements means they will be accepted due date now in one week
  152. # [18:07] <paulc> ACTION-188?
  153. # [18:07] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-188
  154. # [18:07] <trackbot> ACTION-188 -- Sam Ruby to assign a member of the HTML WG to follow up on link-relations registry requests -- due 2010-10-07 -- CLOSED
  155. # [18:07] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/188
  156. # [18:07] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-188 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  157. # [18:07] <paulc> See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Oct/0347.html
  158. # [18:07] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-188: Check on the status of the request for spec additions from Paul Cotton on 2010-10-21 (public-html@w3.org from October 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
  159. # [18:07] <paulc> Close ACTION-188
  160. # [18:07] * trackbot attempting to close ACTION-188.
  161. # [18:07] <trackbot> ACTION-188 Assign a member of the HTML WG to follow up on link-relations registry requests closed
  162. # [18:07] <paulc> Topic: New issues this week
  163. # [18:08] <paulc> None
  164. # [18:08] <Julian> q+
  165. # [18:08] * Zakim sees Julian on the speaker queue
  166. # [18:08] <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
  167. # [18:08] <paulc> Chairs will convert outstanding 8 tracker requests into issues.
  168. # [18:08] <rubys> ack next
  169. # [18:08] * Zakim sees Julian at the head of the speaker queue
  170. # [18:08] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  171. # [18:08] <paulc> Julian will handle his two TrackerRequests himself. Thank you Julian.
  172. # [18:08] <Zakim> + +33.6.72.99.aaaa
  173. # [18:08] <paulc> Zakim, who is on call?
  174. # [18:08] <Zakim> I don't understand your question, paulc.
  175. # [18:09] <paulc> Topic: Items closed last week
  176. # [18:09] * plh zakim, call plh-mobile
  177. # [18:09] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
  178. # [18:09] * dsinger_ zakim, who is on the phone?
  179. # [18:09] <Zakim> +Plh
  180. # [18:09] <paulc> ISSUE-89?
  181. # [18:09] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-89
  182. # [18:09] * Zakim sees on the phone: Julian, [Microsoft], Sam, [Microsoft.a], Mike, dsinger (muted), Janina, Cynthia_Shelly, +33.6.72.99.aaaa, Plh (muted)
  183. # [18:09] <trackbot> ISSUE-89 -- Remove Section 4.12 Common Idioms without dedicated Elements -- open
  184. # [18:09] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/89
  185. # [18:09] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-89 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  186. # [18:09] * Zakim [Microsoft.a] has adrianba, franko
  187. # [18:09] <dpenkler> zakim,aaaa is dpenkler
  188. # [18:09] * Zakim [Microsoft] has paulc
  189. # [18:09] <Zakim> +dpenkler; got it
  190. # [18:09] <paulc> Closed on oct 13
  191. # [18:09] * plh zakim, mute me
  192. # [18:09] * Zakim Plh should now be muted
  193. # [18:09] <paulc> ISSUE-118?
  194. # [18:09] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-118
  195. # [18:09] <trackbot> ISSUE-118 -- Specification breaks semantics of existing link relations "index" and "first" -- open
  196. # [18:09] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/118
  197. # [18:09] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-118 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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  199. # [18:09] <paulc> Change proposal was received on time and we will proceed with a counter proposal call.
  200. # [18:09] <paulc> ISSUE-122?
  201. # [18:09] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-122
  202. # [18:09] <trackbot> ISSUE-122 -- alt text and description for Lady of Shalott example -- open
  203. # [18:09] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/122
  204. # [18:10] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-122 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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  206. # [18:10] <paulc> We received a null change proposal but no actual change proposal for the requested change.
  207. # [18:10] <paulc> We will proceed to a call for consensus.
  208. # [18:10] <paulc> ISSUE-123?
  209. # [18:10] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-123
  210. # [18:10] <trackbot> ISSUE-123 -- Autofocus attribute security concerns -- closed
  211. # [18:10] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/123
  212. # [18:10] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-123 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  213. # [18:10] <Zakim> +eliot
  214. # [18:10] <paulc> No ontime change proposal received, Issue is closed without prejudice.
  215. # [18:11] <eliot> zakim, mute me
  216. # [18:11] <Zakim> eliot should now be muted
  217. # [18:11] <paulc> TOPIC: Items closing this week
  218. # [18:11] <paulc> ISSUE-85?
  219. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-85
  220. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-85 -- ARIA roles added to the a element should be conforming in HTML5 -- open
  221. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/85
  222. # [18:11] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-85 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  223. # [18:11] <Zakim> + +1.415.595.aabb
  224. # [18:11] <mjs> Zakim, +1.415.595.aabb is me
  225. # [18:11] <Zakim> +mjs; got it
  226. # [18:11] <paulc> Call for consensus closed yesterday. There were no objections.
  227. # [18:11] <paulc> ISSUE-32?
  228. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-32
  229. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-32 -- how to provide a summary of a table, e.g. for unsighted navigation? -- open
  230. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/32
  231. # [18:11] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-32 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  232. # [18:11] <paulc> This straw poll for objections closes today.
  233. # [18:12] <paulc> ISSUE-74?
  234. # [18:12] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-74
  235. # [18:12] <trackbot> ISSUE-74 -- How accessibility works for <canvas> is unclear. -- open
  236. # [18:12] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/74
  237. # [18:12] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-74 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  238. # [18:12] <paulc> ISSUE-105?
  239. # [18:12] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-105
  240. # [18:12] <trackbot> ISSUE-105 -- allow image maps on the canvas element -- open
  241. # [18:12] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/105
  242. # [18:12] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-105 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  243. # [18:12] <paulc> Survey closes today on the combined -74, -105 survey.
  244. # [18:12] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Oct/0327.html
  245. # [18:12] <pimpbot> Title: Re: question about canvas survey and issue-131 from Sam Ruby on 2010-10-20 (public-html@w3.org from October 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
  246. # [18:13] <paulc> Question 4 in the original survey was deferred and we will process this with ISSUE-131
  247. # [18:13] <paulc> Topic: Items closing next week
  248. # [18:13] <paulc> ISSUE-119?
  249. # [18:13] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-119
  250. # [18:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-119 -- Certain relationships take on a special meaning when repeated; other solutions may be cleaner -- raised
  251. # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/119
  252. # [18:13] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-119 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  253. # [18:13] <paulc> Change proposals are due Oct 24.
  254. # [18:13] <paulc> ISSUE-27?
  255. # [18:13] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-27
  256. # [18:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-27 -- @rel value ownership, registry consideration -- open
  257. # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/27
  258. # [18:13] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-27 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  259. # [18:13] <Julian> q+
  260. # [18:13] * Zakim sees Julian on the speaker queue
  261. # [18:13] <paulc> Alternate or counter proposals due Oct 27.
  262. # [18:14] <paulc> Julian: A change proposal for ISSUE-119 has been submitted.
  263. # [18:14] <paulc> Chair: This is recorded on the issue page.
  264. # [18:14] <rubys> http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-119
  265. # [18:14] <pimpbot> Title: Change Proposal Status (at dev.w3.org)
  266. # [18:14] <rubys> ack next
  267. # [18:14] * Zakim sees Julian at the head of the speaker queue
  268. # [18:14] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  269. # [18:14] <paulc> Topic: New surveys this week
  270. # [18:14] <paulc> None.
  271. # [18:15] <paulc> Topic: New Calls this week
  272. # [18:15] <paulc> ISSUE-127?
  273. # [18:15] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-127
  274. # [18:15] <trackbot> ISSUE-127 -- Simplify characterization of link types -- raised
  275. # [18:15] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/127
  276. # [18:15] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-127 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  277. # [18:15] <paulc> Call for proposals due Nov 21
  278. # [18:15] <paulc> ISSUE-129?
  279. # [18:15] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-129
  280. # [18:15] <trackbot> ISSUE-129 -- replace or modify the ARIA section of the HTML5 spec -- raised
  281. # [18:15] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/129
  282. # [18:15] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-129 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  283. # [18:15] <paulc> Call for proposals due Nov 21.
  284. # [18:15] <paulc> ISSUE-118?
  285. # [18:15] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-118
  286. # [18:15] <trackbot> ISSUE-118 -- Specification breaks semantics of existing link relations "index" and "first" -- open
  287. # [18:15] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/118
  288. # [18:15] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-118 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  289. # [18:15] <paulc> Call for counter proposals due Nov 21.
  290. # [18:16] <paulc> ISSUE-122?
  291. # [18:16] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-122
  292. # [18:16] <trackbot> ISSUE-122 -- alt text and description for Lady of Shalott example -- open
  293. # [18:16] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/122
  294. # [18:16] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-122 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  295. # [18:16] <Julian> q+
  296. # [18:16] * Zakim sees Julian on the speaker queue
  297. # [18:16] <paulc> Call for consensus closes Oct 27.
  298. # [18:16] <rubys> ack next
  299. # [18:16] * Zakim sees Julian at the head of the speaker queue
  300. # [18:16] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  301. # [18:16] <Zakim> + +1.732.294.aacc
  302. # [18:16] <paulc> Julian: Why does -122 show up twice in the agenda.
  303. # [18:17] <janina> q+
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  306. # [18:17] * Julian apologies
  307. # [18:17] <paulc> Chair: We are progressing -122 to the next stage in this agenda item.
  308. # [18:17] <rubys> ack next
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  313. # [18:18] <janina> ack janina
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  315. # [18:18] <paulc> Topic: Heart beat publications
  316. # [18:19] <paulc> MikeSmith: All 8 drafts that we queued for publication are in the final stages of getting thru pubrules.
  317. # [18:19] <paulc> MikeSmith: Getting thru pubrules checker problems is taking longer than expected. Mike is working with WebMaster to get them fixed.
  318. # [18:20] <paulc> MikeSmith: Hoping to get the pubrules problems fixed before the end of this week.
  319. # [18:20] <paulc> MikeSmith: Announcement for w3.org home page is ready to go.
  320. # [18:20] <paulc> q+
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  322. # [18:20] <rubys> ack next
  323. # [18:20] <paulc> ack paulc
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  326. # [18:20] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  327. # [18:21] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  328. # [18:21] <paulc> PaulC: Why are editors not doing pubrules checker work?
  329. # [18:21] <paulc> MikeSmith: I agree that the Editors should do this kind of work in the future.
  330. # [18:22] <paulc> MikeSmith: Part of the problem is URL links between the published documents. The build process impacts these links.
  331. # [18:22] * Julian nods
  332. # [18:23] <paulc> MikeSmith: This kind of problem is not the Editor's fault so this is why MikeSmith is taking care of the problem and why there is a delay.
  333. # [18:23] <paulc> MikeSmith: Getting eight drafts is a bigger job.
  334. # [18:24] <paulc> MikeSmith: I will let the WG know when the pub cycle is done.
  335. # [18:24] <paulc> Topic: Issue updates
  336. # [18:24] <paulc> ISSUE-27?
  337. # [18:24] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-27
  338. # [18:24] <trackbot> ISSUE-27 -- @rel value ownership, registry consideration -- open
  339. # [18:24] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/27
  340. # [18:24] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-27 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  341. # [18:24] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Oct/0067.html
  342. # [18:24] <pimpbot> Title: volunteer needed to raise new HTML5 spec bug proposing general link-relations spec change [was: ACTION-188 (was: ACTION-185 (register link relations))] from Michael(tm) Smith on 2010-10-06 (public-html@w3.org from October 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
  343. # [18:24] <paulc> ISSUE-109?
  344. # [18:24] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-109
  345. # [18:24] <trackbot> ISSUE-109 -- change ARIA section title and add extra text about use of ARIA -- open
  346. # [18:24] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/109
  347. # [18:24] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-109 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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  349. # [18:25] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Oct/0135.html
  350. # [18:25] <pimpbot> Title: Re: Issue-85 (was: ISSUE-129: replace or modify the ARIA section of the HTML5 spec) from Steven Faulkner on 2010-10-12 (public-html@w3.org from October 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
  351. # [18:25] <Zakim> +[Apple]
  352. # [18:25] <dsinger> zakim, [apple] has dsinger
  353. # [18:25] <Zakim> +dsinger; got it
  354. # [18:25] <Zakim> -dsinger
  355. # [18:25] <paulc> ISSUE-109 will be resolved after ISSUE-74.
  356. # [18:25] <paulc> ISSUE-9?
  357. # [18:25] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-9
  358. # [18:25] <trackbot> ISSUE-9 -- how accessibility works for <video> is unclear -- open
  359. # [18:25] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/9
  360. # [18:25] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-9 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  361. # [18:26] <paulc> See results of ACTION-188?
  362. # [18:26] <paulc> ACTION-188?
  363. # [18:26] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-188
  364. # [18:26] <trackbot> ACTION-188 -- Sam Ruby to assign a member of the HTML WG to follow up on link-relations registry requests -- due 2010-10-07 -- CLOSED
  365. # [18:26] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/188
  366. # [18:26] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-188 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  367. # [18:26] * plh wonders if there is a reminder for TPAC on the agenda?
  368. # [18:27] <paulc> ACTION-189?
  369. # [18:27] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-189
  370. # [18:27] <trackbot> ACTION-189 -- Paul Cotton to check on the status of the request for spec additions related to the <track> element -- due 2010-10-21 -- OPEN
  371. # [18:27] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/189
  372. # [18:27] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-189 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  373. # [18:27] <paulc> fixup:
  374. # [18:27] <paulc> ACTION-189 is closed.
  375. # [18:27] <paulc> close ACTION-189
  376. # [18:27] * trackbot attempting to close ACTION-189.
  377. # [18:27] <trackbot> ACTION-189 Check on the status of the request for spec additions related to the <track> element closed
  378. # [18:28] <paulc> ACTION-187?
  379. # [18:28] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-187
  380. # [18:28] <trackbot> ACTION-187 -- Maciej Stachowiak to inform the group that no comments on issue-9 requirements means they will be accepted -- due 2010-10-21 -- OPEN
  381. # [18:28] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/187
  382. # [18:28] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-187 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  383. # [18:29] <Julian> We still need to re-open ACTION-188, right?
  384. # [18:30] <rubys> julian: action-188 was previously closed
  385. # [18:30] <paulc> Maciej: I am working on a draft statement and will submit first to co-chairs and TF facilitator before the end of the week.
  386. # [18:30] <paulc> Topic: Other business
  387. # [18:30] <Julian> rubys: when?
  388. # [18:30] <paulc> nov 4 weekly WG conference is cancelled.
  389. # [18:31] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Oct/0067.html
  390. # [18:31] <pimpbot> Title: volunteer needed to raise new HTML5 spec bug proposing general link-relations spec change [was: ACTION-188 (was: ACTION-185 (register link relations))] from Michael(tm) Smith on 2010-10-06 (public-html@w3.org from October 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
  391. # [18:31] <plh> q+
  392. # [18:32] * Zakim sees plh on the speaker queue
  393. # [18:32] * plh zakim, unmute me
  394. # [18:32] * Zakim Plh should no longer be muted
  395. # [18:32] <Julian> q+
  396. # [18:32] * Zakim sees plh, Julian on the speaker queue
  397. # [18:32] <plh> q+ later
  398. # [18:32] * Zakim sees plh, Julian, plh on the speaker queue
  399. # [18:32] <plh> q- plh
  400. # [18:32] * Zakim sees Julian, plh on the speaker queue
  401. # [18:32] <paulc> Lack of volunteers will have to factored into the issue.
  402. # [18:32] <rubys> ack next
  403. # [18:32] * Zakim sees Julian at the head of the speaker queue
  404. # [18:32] * Zakim sees plh on the speaker queue
  405. # [18:33] <paulc> Julian: Once we have progress on whether we will use the registry, Julian will volunteer to update/create the necessary change proposal.
  406. # [18:33] <plh> ack plh
  407. # [18:33] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  408. # [18:34] * plh zakim, mute me
  409. # [18:34] * Zakim Plh should now be muted
  410. # [18:34] <Julian> Rephrasing the link definitions depends on how we decide on ISSUE-27.
  411. # [18:35] <paulc> Chair: We do have a problem with ISSUE-27 and we may have to take a decision based on the status ie lack of volunteers.
  412. # [18:35] <paulc> Julian: Are the Chairs proposing to proceed on ISSUE-27?
  413. # [18:36] <paulc> Chair: We are currently waiting until Oct 27 for a counter proposals for ISSUE-27.
  414. # [18:37] <rubys> http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-027
  415. # [18:37] <pimpbot> Title: Change Proposal Status (at dev.w3.org)
  416. # [18:37] <paulc> Julian: What is needed is a proposal that covers 15 link relations and Julian does not want to do this work if the WG decided against this approach.
  417. # [18:37] <paulc> Restating: Nov 4 Weekly WG meeting is cancelled.
  418. # [18:38] <paulc> TP HTML.next panel:
  419. # [18:38] <plh> q+ to remind about TPAC registration
  420. # [18:38] * Zakim sees plh on the speaker queue
  421. # [18:38] <paulc> http://www.w3.org/2010/11/TPAC/PlenaryAgenda.html
  422. # [18:38] <pimpbot> Title: TPAC 2010: Plenary Day Meeting (at www.w3.org)
  423. # [18:38] <plh> q+ to talk about HTML5 Demos
  424. # [18:38] * Zakim sees plh on the speaker queue
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  426. # [18:40] <paulc> The HTML.next panel is currently described at the above link and will occur just before lunch.
  427. # [18:40] <paulc> The panel will be preceded by an HTML5 demo 30+ min session.
  428. # [18:40] <rubys> ack next
  429. # [18:40] * Zakim sees plh at the head of the speaker queue
  430. # [18:40] * Zakim unmutes Plh
  431. # [18:40] <Zakim> plh, you wanted to remind about TPAC registration and to talk about HTML5 Demos
  432. # [18:40] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  433. # [18:41] <paulc> plh: HTML5: Google, Mozilla, Opera and MSFT will show HTML5 implementations ie eye-candy session.
  434. # [18:41] <paulc> URGENT: Registration fee increases significantly after Oct 22
  435. # [18:41] <paulc> q+
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  437. # [18:41] <rubys> ack next
  438. # [18:41] * Zakim sees paulc at the head of the speaker queue
  439. # [18:41] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  440. # [18:43] <paulc> Paulc: The TAG has requested a joint meeting in Lyon. The Chairs are working on determing the topics for such a joint meeting.
  441. # [18:43] <paulc> Topic: Chair and scribe for next meeting
  442. # [18:43] <paulc> Chair will be Maciej.
  443. # [18:43] <paulc> volunteers for Scribe?
  444. # [18:44] <paulc> Default will be Sam if no one else volunteers.
  445. # [18:44] <paulc> Topic: Adjournment
  446. # [18:44] <Zakim> -[Apple]
  447. # [18:44] <Zakim> -Plh
  448. # [18:44] <paulc> The meeting was adjourned at :41 mins
  449. # [18:44] <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
  450. # [18:44] <Zakim> -Janina
  451. # [18:44] <Zakim> -dpenkler
  452. # [18:44] <Zakim> -eliot
  453. # [18:44] <Zakim> -Sam
  454. # [18:44] <Zakim> -Julian
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  456. # [18:44] <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
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  458. # [18:44] <Zakim> -Mike
  459. # [18:44] <rubys> rrsagent, publish minutes
  460. # [18:44] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/21-html-wg-minutes.html rubys
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  462. # [18:45] <Zakim> -mjs
  463. # [18:47] <Zakim> - +1.732.294.aacc
  464. # [18:48] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  465. # [18:48] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  466. # [18:48] <Zakim> Attendees were Julian, Sam, paulc, [Microsoft], adrianba, franko, Mike, dsinger, Janina, Cynthia_Shelly, +33.6.72.99.aaaa, Plh, dpenkler, eliot, mjs, +1.732.294.aacc
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  470. # [18:53] <pimpbot> planet: Google Developer Day - After Japan, Ready for Brazil and Europe <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Dcni/~3/Ux_yy5G1bjA/google-developer-day-after-japan-ready.html>
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  510. # [23:26] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10901] Use same parsing for HTML <script> and SVG <script> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2807.html> ** [Bug 11011] Since Javascript does not support mode specifiers inside the regular expression, there is no simple way of matching a single word case-insensitively besides turning into [Ww][Oo][Rr][Dd] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2806.html>
  511. # [23:53] * Quits: anne (annevk@83.85.115.123) (Quit: anne)
  512. # [23:56] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11107] Make the expected rendering of datetime controls and number controls clearer <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/2808.html>
  513. # Session Close: Fri Oct 22 00:00:00 2010

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