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  3. # [00:27] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10988] add slider element <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/3024.html>
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  6. # [00:57] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 10988] add slider element" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/3025.html>
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  10. # [01:27] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 10988] add slider element" (3 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/3026.html>
  11. # [01:39] <pimpbot> planet: Data theft with CSS <http://www.owlfolio.org/htmletc/css-data-theft/>
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  25. # [04:58] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10812] i18n comment 7 : line breaks in textarea and pre elements <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/3027.html>
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  33. # [06:41] <pimpbot> planet: <button> styling issues in Firefox… invisible gap at the top? <http://doctype.com/button-styling-issues-firefox%E2%80%A6-invisible-gap-top>
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  37. # [07:29] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11150] New: Canvas Page cannot contain uppercase letters. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/3029.html> ** [Bug 11151] New: Canvas Page cannot contain uppercase letters. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/3028.html>
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  47. # [09:59] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11150] Canvas Page cannot contain uppercase letters. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/3032.html> ** [Bug 11151] Canvas Page cannot contain uppercase letters. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/3031.html> ** [Bug 11150] Canvas Page cannot contain uppercase letters. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/3030.html>
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  79. # [14:00] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11149] @-rules in CSS are document-global by default. <style scoped> should specify that @-rules used in it are only available within the single scoped sheet (and any imported sheets). <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/3033.html>
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  86. # [14:30] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10900] HTML to Platform Accessibility APIs Implementation Guide <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/3034.html>
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  88. # [15:01] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11096] s element still listed as absent <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/3035.html>
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  91. # [15:43] <pimpbot> planet: <div><h3>Disable Java NOW / Why does the New York Times Chicken-Little HTML5 When Java Exploits Are Real?</h3></div> <http://tantek.com/2010/300/b1/disable-java-now>
  92. # [15:55] <MikeSmith> Julian: nothing is formally published in dev.w3.org space
  93. # [15:55] <MikeSmith> it is editor's draft space
  94. # [15:55] <Julian> it would be nice if it was readable when I need to read it :-) why all the gray-in-gray?
  95. # [15:56] <MikeSmith> it's grayed out intentionally
  96. # [15:56] <Julian> so I can't read it?
  97. # [15:57] <MikeSmith> there is an upstream editor's draft
  98. # [15:57] <Julian> I'm *not* going to use http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/, it's a different doc, and having the link there is totally misleading
  99. # [15:57] <MikeSmith> they are both editor's drafts
  100. # [15:58] <Julian> ok
  101. # [15:58] <Julian> what spec am I supposed to look at when writing a CP?
  102. # [15:58] <Julian> Last TR version?
  103. # [15:59] <MikeSmith> if you want the version that reflects the editor's latest responses to bugzilla comments, see the upstream editor's draft
  104. # [16:00] <Julian> and the URI for that is?
  105. # [16:00] <MikeSmith> but if the section you are writing a CP for has not changed recently, see the TR
  106. # [16:00] <MikeSmith> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/
  107. # [16:00] <pimpbot> Title: HTML5 (including next generation additions still in development) (at www.whatwg.org)
  108. # [16:00] <MikeSmith> http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/
  109. # [16:00] <pimpbot> Title: HTML5 (including next generation additions still in development) (at www.whatwg.org)
  110. # [16:00] <Julian> that doesn't work for me, it's not the W3C spec
  111. # [16:01] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 10427] Object should be a little less scoping" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/3037.html>
  112. # [16:02] <Julian> so this is temporary only?
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  123. # [18:44] <pimpbot> planet: Adobe announces the HTML5 Video Player widget « Adobe Dreamweaver Team Blog <http://blogs.adobe.com/dreamweaver/2010/10/adobe-announces-the-html5-video-player-widget.html>
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  138. # [20:02] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11152] New: Polyglot spec should mention accessibility <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/3039.html>
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  146. # [21:32] <pimpbot> changes: sam: Update issue 122 and add issue 140 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0157.html>
  147. # [21:32] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9178] add definition of "conforming document" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/3041.html>
  148. # [22:33] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10809] i18n comment 3 : new attribute: submitdir <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/3042.html>
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  151. # [22:58] <Julian> ok, so I *thought* the current boilerplate had to do with WD publication, but it appears the drafs were published last week (pun intended)
  152. # [22:58] <Julian> so what is going on here?
  153. # [22:58] <Julian> Can we please have a W3C copy that is readable, and doesn't have misleading redirect in the boilerplate?
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  156. # [23:03] <pimpbot> changes: manu: Changed warning for HTML5 spec to point to latest W3C working draft. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0158.html>
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  160. # [23:09] <hober> Julian: looks like Manu's made that change for you ^^
  161. # [23:10] <Julian> i just noticed
  162. # [23:10] <hober> It surprises me that he'd edit a draft of which he's not editor, but YMMV.
  163. # [23:10] <Julian> it would be great if the CSS was fixed as well (that was my original complaint, actually=
  164. # [23:10] <Julian> absolutely
  165. # [23:10] <Julian> me too
  166. # [23:15] <hober> Yeah, the gray is way more annoying than wherever the link points. That said, the link pointing to whatwg doesn't bother me.
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  169. # [23:23] <Julian> I still don't understand what's going on.
  170. # [23:23] <Julian> why is the editor's draft "out of data"
  171. # [23:24] <Julian> who put this in?
  172. # [23:25] <Philip> Seems surprising to link to a 4-month-old draft and claim it's a latest version, too
  173. # [23:29] <Julian> that was Manu's edit, well-intented, I'm sure
  174. # [23:30] <Julian> the more interesting question is why the text Manu attempted to fix was added at all (and the related CSS change)
  175. # [23:30] <anne> yeah, unlike Hixie's edit, which was just pure evil
  176. # [23:31] <Philip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Oct/0156.html
  177. # [23:31] <pimpbot> Title: hixie: add a warning while we try to resolve the publishing problem from poot on 2010-10-26 (public-html-diffs@w3.org from October 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
  178. # [23:31] <Philip> Ask someone who is aware of what the publishing problem is, I guess
  179. # [23:31] * Philip is unfortunately unaware
  180. # [23:31] <Julian> nor am I
  181. # [23:32] <Julian> but the fix seems to be worse than the problem whatever it is
  182. # [23:33] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11153] New: current editor's draft has broken CSS and misleading redirect <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Oct/3043.html>
  183. # [23:34] <Julian> Manu: maybe yo
  184. # [23:34] <Julian> ..u should have removed the change completely
  185. # [23:36] <Philip> Reverting changes because you don't understand the reason doesn't seem like a good idea, before discussing it with people who do understand the reason
  186. # [23:37] <hober> indeed
  187. # [23:39] <Julian> can we please blame the person who caused this, instead of somebody who was trying to fix it?
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