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  17. # [01:39] <MikeSmith> issue-124?
  18. # [01:39] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-124
  19. # [01:39] <trackbot> ISSUE-124 -- nofollow/noreferrer not allowed on <link> -- open
  20. # [01:39] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/124
  21. # [01:39] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-124: nofollow/noreferrer not allowed on - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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  28. # [01:59] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Add dirname='' feature (may still be renamed or changed if someone comes up with a better solution) (whatwg r5676) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Nov/0009.html>
  29. # [01:59] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10807] i18n comment 1 : new attribute: ubi <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0438.html> ** [Bug 10821] i18n comment 17 : setting input and textarea element direction through browser UI should set the dir attribute and trigger oninput event <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0437.html> ** [Bug 10809] i18n comment 3 : new attribute: submitdir <http://lists.w3.org/Arc
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  36. # [02:29] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Reword some <ubi> requirements and correct some typos. (whatwg r5677) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Nov/0010.html>
  37. # [02:29] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 10807] i18n comment 1 : new attribute: ubi" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0439.html>
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  41. # [02:59] <pimpbot> changes: 2Dapi; hixie: allow warning to be closed <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Nov/0013.html> ** microdata; hixie: allow warning to be closed <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Nov/0012.html> ** hixie: allow warning to be closed <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Nov/0011.html>
  42. # [02:59] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11196] Please add a way to hide the Working Draft warning <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0440.html>
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  44. # [03:30] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: tweak wording and add an example to make things clearer (whatwg r5678) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Nov/0014.html>
  45. # [03:30] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11289] New: *novels*? Please cite at least one of them, it sounds interesting! <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0443.html> ** "[Bug 10827] i18n comment 23 : script dialog text direction" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0442.html>
  46. # [04:00] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11211] Need a way to force a line wrap with the bidi semantics of LINE SEPARATOR when necessary. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0445.html> ** [Bug 11289] *novels*? Please cite at least one of them, it sounds interesting! <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0444.html>
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  67. # [08:01] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 8506] The value of a hidden-state input element as defined here does not have a concept of a defaultValue. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0447.html> ** [Bug 11291] New: fuck you bitch suck my cock <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0446.html>
  68. # [09:01] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11291] fuck you bitch suck my cock <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0448.html>
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  74. # [10:01] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10809] i18n comment 3 : new attribute: submitdir <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0452.html> ** [Bug 11294] New: update prose about HTTP Link header <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0451.html> ** [Bug 11293] New: please update WEBLINK ref <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0450.html> ** [Bug 11292] New: The poster attribute gi
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  76. # [10:31] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11295] New: Make script-inserted external scripts that have .async=false execute in the insertion order, default to true <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0454.html> ** [Bug 11292] The poster attribute gives the address of an image file that the user <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0453.html>
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  87. # [11:32] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11289] *novels*? Please cite at least one of them, it sounds interesting! <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0456.html> ** [Bug 8885] Fallback mechanism for embedded content <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0455.html>
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  89. # [12:02] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11297] New: ß@˜Ó×ö¾ÍŒ¦ÁË Logo Google Ëь¤ Ëь¤ Ëь¤ Cross Frame: Åc²»Í¬¾WÓòµÄ Frame ×ö»¥„Ó ´ËƪÎÄÕÂ×î½ü¸üЕrégžé2010-10-07 11:52:56 Ä¿Ç°¹²ÓÐ1ƪÁôÑÔ ÏàêP˜Ë»`£º * flash iframe ²»Í¬ html * ²»Í¬¾WÓò * Cross Document Messaging * flash Cross Frame * fr <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0458.html> ** [Bug 11296] New: dirn
  90. # [12:02] <pimpbot> planet: First impressions of Tokyo <http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2010/first-impressions-of-tokyo/>
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  97. # [13:02] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11298] New: Surrogate catching doesn't belong in input stream preprocessing <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0459.html>
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  100. # [13:32] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11299] The IDL for HTMLVideoElement has a syntax error: "[PutForwards=value attribute DOMSettableTokenList audio;" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0462.html> ** [Bug 11299] New: The IDL for HTMLVideoElement has a syntax error: "[PutForwards=value attribute DOMSettableTokenList audio;" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0461.html> ** [Bug 9659] Initial U+0000 should
  101. # [14:02] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 11274] Missing ] after [PutForwards=value for HTMLVideoElement.audio" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0465.html> ** "[Bug 11299] The IDL for HTMLVideoElement has a syntax error: "[PutForwards=value attribute DOMSettableTokenList audio;"" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0463.html>
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  147. # [17:03] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11291] fuck you bitch suck my cock <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0466.html>
  148. # [17:03] <pimpbot> planet: HTML5 Script Execution Changes in Firefox 4 Beta 7 <http://hsivonen.iki.fi/script-execution/>
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  172. # [18:03] <paulc> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2010OctDec/0012.html
  173. # [18:03] <pimpbot> Title: {agenda} HTML WG Telecon 2010-11-11: status of actions, calls, issues, Task Force reports from Maciej Stachowiak on 2010-11-10 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from October to December 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
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  175. # [18:03] <paulc> scribenick: paulc
  176. # [18:03] <paulc> chair: mjs
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  178. # [18:04] <mjs> good morning folks
  179. # [18:04] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
  180. # [18:04] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference
  181. # [18:04] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  182. # [18:04] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  184. # [18:04] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  185. # [18:04] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  186. # [18:04] <Julian> Zakim, who's on the phone?
  187. # [18:04] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  188. # [18:04] <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.251.280.aaaa, [Microsoft], [Apple]
  189. # [18:04] <trackbot> Date: 11 November 2010
  190. # [18:04] <rubys> scribenick: paulc
  191. # [18:04] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
  192. # [18:04] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  193. # [18:04] <rubys> chair: mjs
  194. # [18:04] <Julian> Zakim, +1.251.280.aaaa is me
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  196. # [18:04] <Zakim> + +1.206.850.aabb
  197. # [18:04] <Zakim> +Julian; got it
  198. # [18:04] <Zakim> +Radhika_Roy
  199. # [18:04] <eliot> zakim, +1.206.850.aab is me
  200. # [18:04] <Zakim> +eliot; got it
  201. # [18:05] <rubys> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2010OctDec/0012.html
  202. # [18:05] <pimpbot> Title: {agenda} HTML WG Telecon 2010-11-11: status of actions, calls, issues, Task Force reports from Maciej Stachowiak on 2010-11-10 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from October to December 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
  203. # [18:05] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  204. # [18:05] <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft.a] has adrianba
  205. # [18:05] <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
  206. # [18:05] <Zakim> + +1.919.247.aacc
  207. # [18:06] <rubys> zakim, aacc is me
  208. # [18:06] <Zakim> +rubys; got it
  209. # [18:06] * MikeSmith Zakim, call Mike-goog
  210. # [18:06] <paulc> what conference is this?
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  212. # [18:06] * Zakim ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
  213. # [18:06] <Zakim> +Mike
  214. # [18:07] <paulc> zakim, what conference is this?
  215. # [18:07] <Zakim> this is HTML_WG()12:00PM conference code 4865
  216. # [18:07] * MikeSmith Zakim, Mike is me
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  218. # [18:07] * Zakim +MikeSmith; got it
  219. # [18:07] <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper
  220. # [18:07] <janina> zakim, call janina
  221. # [18:07] <Zakim> ok, janina; the call is being made
  222. # [18:07] <Zakim> +Janina
  223. # [18:07] <paulc> is plh here yet?
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  225. # [18:07] <paulc> zakim, who is here?
  226. # [18:07] <Zakim> On the phone I see Julian, [Microsoft], [Apple], eliot, Radhika_Roy, [Microsoft.a], rubys, MikeSmith, Michael_Cooper, Janina
  227. # [18:07] * Quits: kliehm (kliehm@80.146.185.162) (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.12/20101026210630])
  228. # [18:07] <Zakim> [Microsoft.a] has adrianba
  229. # [18:08] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
  230. # [18:08] <Zakim> On IRC I see arronei, janina, Dzung_Tran, adrianba, Zakim, eliot, mjs, mfoladar, paulc, rubys, tH, fantasai, Martijnc, gavin, Marco_Ranon, aroben, pimpbot, kliehm, oedipus,
  231. # [18:08] <Zakim> ... MikeSmith, anne, davidb, sideshow, Jedi, gsnedders, CIA-1, ed, Yudai, Julian, kennyluck, Hixie, gavin__, inimino, heycam, krijnh, Dashiva, jwm, jmb, Shunsuke, Philip, jgraham,
  232. # [18:08] <oedipus> regrets+ Gregory_Rosmaita
  233. # [18:08] <Zakim> ... webben, drry, karl, trackbot, RRSAgent
  234. # [18:08] <paulc> Topic: ACTION items due this week
  235. # [18:08] <paulc> ACTION-29?
  236. # [18:08] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-29
  237. # [18:08] <trackbot> ACTION-29 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to follow up on the idea of a free-software-compatible license for a note on HTML authoring -- due 2010-11-07 -- OPEN
  238. # [18:08] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/29
  239. # [18:08] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-29: Follow up on the idea of a free-software-compatible license for a note on HTML authoring - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  240. # [18:08] <paulc> PLH is not present to comment.
  241. # [18:08] * Quits: Marco_Ranon (chatzilla@195.99.188.20) (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.12/20101026210630])
  242. # [18:09] <paulc> ACTION-29 due in one week
  243. # [18:09] * trackbot attempting to change due date on ACTION-29.
  244. # [18:09] <trackbot> ACTION-29 Follow up on the idea of a free-software-compatible license for a note on HTML authoring due date now in one week
  245. # [18:09] <paulc> TOPIC: New issues this week
  246. # [18:09] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aa]
  247. # [18:09] <paulc> ISSUE-141?
  248. # [18:09] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-141
  249. # [18:09] <trackbot> ISSUE-141 -- Allow definition lists to markup dialogue -- raised
  250. # [18:09] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/141
  251. # [18:09] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-141: Allow definition lists to markup dialogue - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  252. # [18:10] <paulc> Asks that the elements for definitions be also usable for dialogues.
  253. # [18:10] <MikeSmith> q?
  254. # [18:10] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  255. # [18:10] <paulc> Topic: Items closes last week
  256. # [18:10] <paulc> Issue-121?
  257. # [18:10] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-121
  258. # [18:10] <trackbot> ISSUE-121 -- Do not ignore HTTP caching rules -- closed
  259. # [18:10] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/121
  260. # [18:10] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-121: Do not ignore HTTP caching rules - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  261. # [18:10] <paulc> This issue was closed without prejudice since no change proposal was submitted by the deadline.
  262. # [18:11] <paulc> Topic: Items closing this week
  263. # [18:11] <paulc> Issue-125?
  264. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-125
  265. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-125 -- Requirement to break RFC 2616 compliance with respect to single quotes not needed for legacy content -- raised
  266. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/125
  267. # [18:11] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-125: Requirement to break RFC 2616 compliance with respect to single quotes not needed for legacy content - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  268. # [18:11] <paulc> Change proposals are due Nov 13
  269. # [18:11] <paulc> Issue-126?
  270. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-126
  271. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-126 -- Requirement to break RFC 2616 compliance with respect to backslashes not needed for legacy content -- raised
  272. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/126
  273. # [18:11] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-126: Requirement to break RFC 2616 compliance with respect to backslashes not needed for legacy content - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  274. # [18:11] <paulc> Change proposals are due Nov 13
  275. # [18:12] * Quits: anne (annevk@83.85.115.123) (Ping timeout)
  276. # [18:12] <Julian> q+
  277. # [18:12] * Zakim sees Julian on the speaker queue
  278. # [18:12] <mjs> http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html
  279. # [18:12] <pimpbot> Title: Change Proposal Status (at dev.w3.org)
  280. # [18:12] <Julian> q-
  281. # [18:12] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  282. # [18:12] <paulc> Julian: I intend to do a change proposal for -125 but maybe not -126.
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  284. # [18:13] <paulc> Topic: Items closing next week
  285. # [18:13] <paulc> None
  286. # [18:13] <paulc> Topic: New calls this week
  287. # [18:13] <paulc> There are 7 new calls.
  288. # [18:13] <paulc> 4 calls for new issues.
  289. # [18:13] <paulc> issue-130?
  290. # [18:13] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-130
  291. # [18:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-130 -- allow tables to be used for layout purposes -- raised
  292. # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/130
  293. # [18:13] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-130: allow tables to be used for layout purposes - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  294. # [18:14] <paulc> issue-132?
  295. # [18:14] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-132
  296. # [18:14] <trackbot> ISSUE-132 -- Drop the color input type -- raised
  297. # [18:14] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/132
  298. # [18:14] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-132: Drop the color input type - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  299. # [18:14] <paulc> Change proposals for issue -130 and -132 are due Dec 10.
  300. # [18:14] <paulc> issue-133?
  301. # [18:14] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-133
  302. # [18:14] <trackbot> ISSUE-133 -- Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) -- raised
  303. # [18:14] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/133
  304. # [18:14] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-133: Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  305. # [18:15] <paulc> Issue-137?
  306. # [18:15] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-137
  307. # [18:15] <trackbot> ISSUE-137 -- Since Javascript does not support mode specifiers inside the regular expression, there is no simple way of matching a single word case-insensitively besides turning into [Ww][Oo][Rr][Dd] -- raised
  308. # [18:15] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/137
  309. # [18:15] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-137: Since Javascript does not support mode specifiers inside the regular expression, there is no simple way of matching a single word case-insensitively besides turning into [Ww][Oo][Rr][Dd] - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  310. # [18:15] <paulc> Change proposals for -133 and -137 are also due by Dec 10.
  311. # [18:16] <paulc> Chair: Any questions on first four?
  312. # [18:16] <paulc> WG; No questions
  313. # [18:16] <paulc> Issue-124?
  314. # [18:16] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-124
  315. # [18:16] <trackbot> ISSUE-124 -- nofollow/noreferrer not allowed on <link> -- open
  316. # [18:16] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/124
  317. # [18:16] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-124: nofollow/noreferrer not allowed on - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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  319. # [18:17] <paulc> There was a call for counter proposals for -124 and this has caused immediate activity - eg. counter proposal and revision to the original proposal.
  320. # [18:17] <paulc> Julian: Do you have comments?
  321. # [18:17] <paulc> Julian: The granularity for this proposal may be incorrect.
  322. # [18:17] <paulc> Julian: There may be two separate issues here.
  323. # [18:18] <paulc> Julian: Perhaps issue -124's target could be changed.
  324. # [18:18] <paulc> Chair: Chairs will take this under advisement - either do two questions in the survey or split the original issue.
  325. # [18:19] <paulc> Julian: I will probably do two separate change propoals for -124 for the two parts.
  326. # [18:19] <paulc> issue-128?
  327. # [18:19] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-128
  328. # [18:19] <trackbot> ISSUE-128 -- Authors should be able to use <figure> where <img> can be used -- open
  329. # [18:19] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/128
  330. # [18:19] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-128: Authors should be able to use where can be used - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  331. # [18:20] <paulc> The Chairs have issued a call for interest in further proposals for -128 since we already have a proposal and counter-proposal.
  332. # [18:20] <paulc> This plan saves 3 weeks of time.
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  334. # [18:20] <paulc> The response on -128 is due Nov 17.
  335. # [18:20] <paulc> ISSUE-27?
  336. # [18:20] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-27
  337. # [18:20] <trackbot> ISSUE-27 -- @rel value ownership, registry consideration -- open
  338. # [18:20] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/27
  339. # [18:20] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-27: @rel value ownership, registry consideration - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  340. # [18:21] <paulc> There are new proposals as a result of the F2F discussion.
  341. # [18:21] <paulc> Therefore since there are a lot of proposals here the Chairs have issue a call for "expression of support for the existing proposals" by Nov 19.
  342. # [18:21] <paulc> Topic: Task Force reports
  343. # [18:22] <paulc> Testing Task force first?
  344. # [18:22] <paulc> Neither Kris or Philippe are here.
  345. # [18:22] <paulc> mjs: We had two sessions at the F2F.
  346. # [18:23] <paulc> mjs: The F2F stepped thru the wiki instructions on how to create tests and mjs believes we improved them since new participants were able to submit new tests.
  347. # [18:23] <paulc> mjs: It is not that difficult to create tests as evidenced by the F2F success of creating new tests.
  348. # [18:24] <paulc> Accessibility Task Force?
  349. # [18:24] <paulc> Janina: The A11Y sessions at TPAC made a lot of progress.
  350. # [18:24] <paulc> Janina: We have some way to go on Canvas but made a lot of progress on Media.
  351. # [18:24] <paulc> Janina: ARIA integration should be done soon as well.
  352. # [18:25] <paulc> Janina: Concerns are that Canvas could be used as a UI and this needs to be made accessible.
  353. # [18:25] <paulc> Janina: The Canvas sub-team is going to start meeting weekly.
  354. # [18:25] <paulc> Janina: ARIA sub-team should be done next week.
  355. # [18:26] * MikeSmith Zakim, call Mike-goog
  356. # [18:26] * Zakim ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
  357. # [18:26] <Zakim> +Mike
  358. # [18:26] <paulc> Janina: Frank O stepped the F2F thru all the Media User Requirements and the meeting discovered that most were User Agent requirements.
  359. # [18:26] <MikeSmith> Zakim, drop Mike
  360. # [18:26] <Zakim> Mike is being disconnected
  361. # [18:26] <Zakim> -Mike
  362. # [18:26] * MikeSmith Zakim, call Mike
  363. # [18:26] * Zakim ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
  364. # [18:26] <paulc> Janina: There were only 11 requirements on the main HTML5 spec itself.
  365. # [18:26] <Zakim> +Mike
  366. # [18:26] * MikeSmith Zakim, Mike is me
  367. # [18:26] * Zakim +MikeSmith; got it
  368. # [18:27] <paulc> Janina: Many of the requirements are on the captioning format.
  369. # [18:27] <paulc> Janina: Media task force will be looking at TTML and WebSRT next week in a longer session - 3.5 hours!
  370. # [18:27] <paulc> Janina: The TPAC has given the work quite a boost.
  371. # [18:28] <paulc> No questions.
  372. # [18:28] <paulc> Topic: Other busines
  373. # [18:28] <paulc> None.
  374. # [18:28] <paulc> Topic: Scribe and chair for next meeting
  375. # [18:28] <paulc> Paul C will chair.
  376. # [18:29] <paulc> Any volunteers to scribe.
  377. # [18:29] <paulc> MJS volunteers to scribe.
  378. # [18:29] <Zakim> -[Microsoft.aa]
  379. # [18:29] <paulc> Topic: Adjournment
  380. # [18:29] <Zakim> -Julian
  381. # [18:29] <Zakim> -Radhika_Roy
  382. # [18:29] <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
  383. # [18:29] <Zakim> -Janina
  384. # [18:29] <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
  385. # [18:29] <Zakim> -rubys
  386. # [18:29] <Zakim> -[Apple]
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  389. # [18:29] <paulc> Meeting adjourned at :26 mins after the hour.
  390. # [18:29] <Zakim> -eliot
  391. # [18:29] <Zakim> -MikeSmith.a
  392. # [18:29] <paulc> rrsagent, generate the minutes
  393. # [18:29] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/11/04-html-wg-minutes.html paulc
  394. # [18:29] <pimpbot> Title: HTML WG F2F meeting (room 3A) -- 04 Nov 2010 (at www.w3.org)
  395. # [18:30] <paulc> oops the date on the minutes is wrong
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  397. # [18:30] <paulc> RRSAgent thinks we are still in Lyon
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  400. # [18:31] <eliot> eliot agrees w/ RRSAgent that we should still be in France.....
  401. # [18:31] * paulc slaps MikeSmith around a bit with a large fishbot
  402. # [18:31] <paulc> Mike: are you still here?
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  404. # [18:31] <MikeSmith> yup
  405. # [18:31] <paulc> How do we fix the minutes?
  406. # [18:32] <paulc> RRSAgent thinks we are still doing the Nov 4 minutes.
  407. # [18:32] * MikeSmith is thinking
  408. # [18:32] <MikeSmith> lemme ask the systems team
  409. # [18:32] <paulc> I think we told the agent that the meeting covered more than one day and have not turned that off
  410. # [18:32] <oedipus> mikesmith, you might have to hand-edit the minutes to separate them at this point...
  411. # [18:33] <paulc> When you get the minutes fixed at http://www.w3.org/2010/11/11-html-wg-minutes.html please let me know and I will send them out.
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  413. # [18:33] <MikeSmith> paulc: will do
  414. # [18:33] <paulc> Thanks.
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  421. # [18:45] <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, start a new log
  422. # [18:45] <RRSAgent> ok, MikeSmith; I will start a new log at midnight
  423. # [18:49] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  424. # [19:04] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11300] New: Remove form owner from scope chain in event handlers <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0467.html>
  425. # [19:04] <pimpbot> planet: Making your add-on compatible with Firefox 4 <http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2010/11/11/making-add-on-compatible-firefox-4/> ** Firefox 4: HTML5 Forms <http://hacks.mozilla.org/2010/11/firefox-4-html5-forms/>
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  430. # [19:34] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11291] fuck you bitch suck my cock <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0471.html> ** [Bug 11295] Make script-inserted external scripts that have .async=false execute in the insertion order, default to true <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0470.html> ** [Bug 11301] "Run" and "execute" shouldn't mean different things, it's extremely confusing. Rename "run" to "attempt t
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  432. # [19:37] <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, MikeSmith, in HTML_WG()12:00PM
  433. # [19:37] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  434. # [19:37] <Zakim> Attendees were [Apple], paulc, +1.206.850.aabb, Julian, Radhika_Roy, eliot, [Microsoft], adrianba, +1.919.247.aacc, rubys, MikeSmith, Michael_Cooper, Janina
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  439. # [20:35] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 11211] Need a way to force a line wrap with the bidi semantics of LINE SEPARATOR when necessary." (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0474.html> ** [Bug 11300] Remove form owner from scope chain in event handlers <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0472.html>
  440. # [20:46] * Zakim excuses himself; his presence no longer seems to be needed
  441. # [20:46] * Parts: Zakim (rrs-bridgg@128.30.52.169)
  442. # [21:04] * Parts: fantasai (fantasai@69.162.163.148)
  443. # [21:05] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11299] The IDL for HTMLVideoElement has a syntax error: "[PutForwards=value attribute DOMSettableTokenList audio;" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0476.html> ** [Bug 11297] �@����͌��� Logo Google �ь� �ь� �ь� Cross Frame: �c��ͬ�W��� Frame ��� ��ƪ��ï
  444. # [21:05] <pimpbot> planet: Take advantage of Windows Summit 2010 to learn about IE9 <http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2010/11/11/take-advantage-of-windows-summit-2010-to-learn-about-ie9.aspx> ** Check out Google’s latest cloud technologies at Cloudstock! <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Dcni/~3/nc1BI9iTLX0/check-out-googles-latest-cloud.html>
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  448. # [22:05] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11289] *novels*? Please cite at least one of them, it sounds interesting! <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0478.html> ** [Bug 11302] New: In 'A start tag whose tag name is "select"' perhaps the first step needs to be somethiing like: "If the current node is an option element then act as if an end tag with the tag name "option"had been seen." Similar statements in the same section for the op <http://lis
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  451. # [22:35] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11304] New: Update "(the item="" and itemprop="" attributes)" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0480.html> ** [Bug 11303] New: "extensions to the predefined set of link types" is not xreffed <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Nov/0479.html>
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