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  33. # [02:07] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11261] Bogus reference to CDATA attributes <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Dec/0305.html>
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  36. # [02:37] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11505] New: the problem i try to solve is spam pop ups and aggressive spam page authoring (which ban you from going backward and is obviously made up for banks and exploited by spammers). my idea is to depreciate (not allow) pop ups and also the annoying backward bro <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Dec/0306.html>
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  38. # [03:07] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11261] Bogus reference to CDATA attributes <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Dec/0307.html>
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  41. # [03:51] <pimpbot> planet: <GAME_ON> 2010: +150 gamer geeks pack out London <http://mozillalabs.com/gaming/2010/12/09/game_on-2010-150-gamer-geeks-pack-out-london/>
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  49. # [05:52] <pimpbot> planet: Firefox/Gecko Delivery Meeting Minutes: 2010-12-08 <http://blog.mozilla.com/meeting-notes/archives/450>
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  54. # [06:52] <pimpbot> planet: sideshowbarker: @paul_irish the flood of @html5 tweets was an unintended side effect of getting a mirror of the spec sources set up at bitbucket. sorry… <http://twitter.com/sideshowbarker/statuses/10942345147060224>
  55. # [07:08] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11506] New: i'd love to be able to comment but as this page has never fully loaded and shut down my computer each time i've tried ...there goes again. good work w3 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Dec/0308.html>
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  57. # [07:38] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11506] i'd love to be able to comment but as this page has never fully loaded and shut down my computer each time i've tried ...there goes again. good work w3 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Dec/0309.html>
  58. # [07:52] <pimpbot> planet: hober: @shelleypowers which is to say: there is no vast, browser-wing conspiracy. /cc @glazou #html5 <http://twitter.com/hober/statuses/12610185621151744> ** brucel: RT @stshank: In hardware-based WebM decoding news: http://bit.ly/elOZgC #html5 <http://twitter.com/brucel/statuses/12502051888046081> ** brucel: Due to a protocol vulnerability Web Sockets will be behind a preference in Opera 11. Hopefully protocol gets fixed fast. via @an
  59. # [08:22] <pimpbot> planet: paul_irish: @getify awesome headers post today. do you think theres anything we can bake into the html5boilerplate apache config as a default? <http://twitter.com/paul_irish/statuses/12676351010021376> ** beverloo: WebKit now supports the "hidden" attribute http://goo.gl/PkekV #HTML5 #WebKit <http://twitter.com/beverloo/statuses/12265858529234944> ** zcorpan: Pop Quiz: How Many Mistakes Can You Find In http://dev.w3.org/html5/html-xhtm
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  63. # [08:37] <MikeSmith> issue-133?
  64. # [08:37] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-133
  65. # [08:37] <trackbot> ISSUE-133 -- Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) -- raised
  66. # [08:37] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/133
  67. # [08:37] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-133: Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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  69. # [09:53] <pimpbot> planet: brucel: Lifehacker interview me about #html5. I use bad language (but I was in Australia), and I'm nice about Flash. http://bit.ly/gPoR0I <http://twitter.com/brucel/statuses/12773017021063168>
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  78. # [11:53] <pimpbot> planet: Can HTML5 apps pass information to Paypal? <http://doctype.com/html5-apps-pass-information-paypal>
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  95. # [14:54] <pimpbot> planet: brucel: I'm talking on #html5 multimedia at Web Directions, UK in May. Buy tix before end of year to avoid VAT increase http://bit.ly/idDsgs #wdx <http://twitter.com/brucel/statuses/12853443785920512>
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  98. # [16:40] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11508] New: suboptimal CDATA example <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Dec/0311.html> ** [Bug 11507] New: entities reference too broad <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Dec/0310.html>
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  107. # [17:08] <pimpbot> changes: sam: One survey done, another started, and a change proposal received <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Dec/0036.html>
  108. # [17:12] <MikeSmith> issue-122?
  109. # [17:12] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-122
  110. # [17:12] <trackbot> ISSUE-122 -- alt text and description for Lady of Shalott example -- open
  111. # [17:12] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/122
  112. # [17:12] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-122: alt text and description for Lady of Shalott example - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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  114. # [17:13] <MikeSmith> bug 9452?
  115. # [17:13] <pimpbot> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9452 silviapfeiffer1, P2, ASSIGNED, Handling of additional tracks of a multitrack audio/video resource
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  117. # [17:19] <MikeSmith> issue-122?
  118. # [17:19] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-122
  119. # [17:19] <trackbot> ISSUE-122 -- alt text and description for Lady of Shalott example -- open
  120. # [17:19] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/122
  121. # [17:19] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-122: alt text and description for Lady of Shalott example - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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  126. # [17:41] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 9452] Handling of additional tracks of a multitrack audio/video resource" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Dec/0314.html> ** [Bug 11261] Bogus reference to CDATA attributes <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Dec/0312.html>
  127. # [17:55] <pimpbot> planet: stevefaulkner: enjoying being back on the #W3C HTML A11Y taskforce calls with @oedipusnj et al. #html5 #accessibility <http://twitter.com/stevefaulkner/statuses/12902193359233025>
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  129. # [17:58] <mjs> hi everyone
  130. # [17:59] <mjs> the telecon may start a few minutes late today
  131. # [17:59] <mjs> apparently all of northern california has a giant fog bank covering it today
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  134. # [18:01] * rubys changes topic to 'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2010OctDec/0019.html'
  135. # [18:02] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
  136. # [18:02] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference
  137. # [18:02] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  138. # [18:02] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  140. # [18:02] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  141. # [18:02] <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute
  142. # [18:02] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  143. # [18:02] <trackbot> Date: 09 December 2010
  144. # [18:03] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
  145. # [18:03] <Zakim> +Sam
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  148. # [18:03] <Zakim> + +49.251.280.aaaa
  149. # [18:03] <Julian> Zakim, +49.251.280.aaaa is me
  150. # [18:03] <Zakim> +Julian; got it
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  152. # [18:04] <mjs> rubys: I'll be dialing in approximately 5 minutes (commuter shuttle is behind schedule)
  153. # [18:04] <mjs> I have the agenda up so I'll be ready to go as soon as it arrives
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  155. # [18:04] <rubys> mjs: ok...
  156. # [18:04] <Zakim> +[HP]
  157. # [18:04] * plh zakim, call plh-work
  158. # [18:04] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
  159. # [18:04] <Zakim> +Plh
  160. # [18:04] <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper
  161. # [18:05] <dpenkler> zakim, dpenkler at [HP]
  162. # [18:05] <Zakim> I don't understand 'dpenkler at [HP]', dpenkler
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  164. # [18:05] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  165. # [18:05] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  166. # [18:05] <rubys> chair: Maciej Stachowiak
  167. # [18:05] <rubys> scribenick: rubys
  168. # [18:05] <dpenkler> zakim,[HP] has dpenkler
  169. # [18:05] <Zakim> +dpenkler; got it
  170. # [18:05] <eliot> zakim, [Microsoft.a] is me
  171. # [18:05] <Zakim> +eliot; got it
  172. # [18:06] <paulc_> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
  173. # [18:06] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  174. # [18:06] <paulc_> paulc is on mute
  175. # [18:06] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
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  177. # [18:07] <cyns> zakim, who is on the phone?
  178. # [18:07] <Zakim> On the phone I see Sam, Julian, [HP], Plh, Michael_Cooper, eliot, [Microsoft], [Microsoft.a]
  179. # [18:07] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
  180. # [18:07] <Zakim> [HP] has dpenkler
  181. # [18:07] <cyns> zakim, microsoft has me
  182. # [18:07] <Zakim> +cyns; got it
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  185. # [18:10] <paulc_> FYI, waiting for MJS to arrive to chair meeting.
  186. # [18:11] <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
  187. # [18:11] <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper
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  189. # [18:12] * MichaelC zakim, who's on the phone?
  190. # [18:12] * Zakim sees on the phone: Sam, Julian, [HP], Plh, eliot, [Microsoft], [Microsoft.a], Michael_Cooper
  191. # [18:12] * Zakim [Microsoft] has cyns
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  193. # [18:12] * MichaelC hears no audio except static
  194. # [18:13] <paulc_> Waiting for mjs who is on a commuter shuttle which is behind schedule.
  195. # [18:13] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  196. # [18:13] <Zakim> -eliot
  197. # [18:13] <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
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  199. # [18:13] <Zakim> + +1.212.220.aabb
  200. # [18:14] <paulc_> Lost my phone connection.
  201. # [18:14] <eliot> me too
  202. # [18:14] * plh microsoft bridge down?
  203. # [18:14] <Zakim> + +1.415.595.aacc
  204. # [18:14] <paulc_> Possibly, it will no answer.
  205. # [18:14] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  206. # [18:15] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
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  208. # [18:15] <eliot> zakim, [Microsoft.a] has me
  209. # [18:15] <Zakim> +eliot; got it
  210. # [18:15] <paulc_> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
  211. # [18:15] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  212. # [18:15] <rubys> topic: ACTION items due by Thursday, December 9
  213. # [18:15] <Zakim> +??P39
  214. # [18:15] <rubys> ACTION-190?
  215. # [18:15] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-190
  216. # [18:15] <trackbot> ACTION-190 -- Michael(tm) Smith to fix pubrules problems with "author-only" view of the HTML5 specification -- due 2010-12-10 -- OPEN
  217. # [18:15] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/190
  218. # [18:15] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-190: Fix pubrules problems with "author-only" view of the HTML5 specification - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  219. # [18:16] <rubys> plh: Mike is not here, he hasn't done it, but it won't hold up publication
  220. # [18:16] <rubys> mjs: that's all of the status we need to know
  221. # [18:16] <rubys> topic: New Issues This Week
  222. # [18:16] <rubys> mjs: there are none
  223. # [18:16] * plh zakim, who is making noise?
  224. # [18:16] * Zakim plh, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: +1.415.595.aacc (81%), [Microsoft.a] (29%)
  225. # [18:16] <rubys> topic: Items Closed Last Week
  226. # [18:17] <rubys> mjs: none
  227. # [18:17] * rubys zakim, mute aacc
  228. # [18:17] * Zakim +1.415.595.aacc should now be muted
  229. # [18:17] <mjs> rubys: I think you just muted me
  230. # [18:17] <rubys> zakim, unmute aacc
  231. # [18:17] <Zakim> +1.415.595.aacc should no longer be muted
  232. # [18:17] <plh> zakim, unmute aacc
  233. # [18:17] <Zakim> +1.415.595.aacc was not muted, plh
  234. # [18:17] <rubys> topic: Items Closing This Week
  235. # [18:18] <rubys> issue-128?
  236. # [18:18] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-128
  237. # [18:18] <trackbot> ISSUE-128 -- Authors should be able to use <figure> where <img> can be used -- open
  238. # [18:18] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/128
  239. # [18:18] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-128: Authors should be able to use where can be used - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  240. # [18:18] <rubys> mjs: closed on December 8
  241. # [18:18] <eliot> zakim, mute me
  242. # [18:18] <Zakim> sorry, eliot, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
  243. # [18:18] <rubys> issue-124?
  244. # [18:18] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-124
  245. # [18:18] <trackbot> ISSUE-124 -- nofollow/noreferrer not allowed on <link> -- open
  246. # [18:18] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/124
  247. # [18:18] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-124: nofollow/noreferrer not allowed on - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  248. # [18:18] <rubys> mjs: alternate proposals due december 10
  249. # [18:18] <rubys> issue-130?
  250. # [18:18] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-130
  251. # [18:18] <trackbot> ISSUE-130 -- allow tables to be used for layout purposes -- raised
  252. # [18:18] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/130
  253. # [18:18] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-130: allow tables to be used for layout purposes - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  254. # [18:18] <rubys> mjs: also due dec 10
  255. # [18:18] <rubys> issue-132?
  256. # [18:18] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-132
  257. # [18:18] <trackbot> ISSUE-132 -- Drop the color input type -- raised
  258. # [18:18] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/132
  259. # [18:18] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-132: Drop the color input type - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  260. # [18:18] <rubys> mjs: also due dec 10
  261. # [18:19] <rubys> issue-133?
  262. # [18:19] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-133
  263. # [18:19] <trackbot> ISSUE-133 -- Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) -- raised
  264. # [18:19] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/133
  265. # [18:19] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-133: Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  266. # [18:19] <rubys> issue-137?
  267. # [18:19] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-137
  268. # [18:19] <trackbot> ISSUE-137 -- Since Javascript does not support mode specifiers inside the regular expression, there is no simple way of matching a single word case-insensitively besides turning into [Ww][Oo][Rr][Dd] -- raised
  269. # [18:19] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/137
  270. # [18:19] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-137: Since Javascript does not support mode specifiers inside the regular expression, there is no simple way of matching a single word case-insensitively besides turning into [Ww][Oo][Rr][Dd] - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  271. # [18:19] <Zakim> +Laura_Carlson
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  273. # [18:19] <rubys> mjs: above are all due december 10... for many we have not received a proposal. If you wish to make a proposal, please do so now.
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  275. # [18:19] <rubys> mjs: comments, questions?
  276. # [18:19] <rubys> topic: Items Closing Next Week
  277. # [18:19] <rubys> mjs: none
  278. # [18:20] <rubys> mjs: 118 survey will be covered later in the agenda
  279. # [18:20] <rubys> topic: New Calls this week
  280. # [18:20] <rubys> mjs: lots, all due in January
  281. # [18:20] <rubys> issue-120?
  282. # [18:20] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-120
  283. # [18:20] <trackbot> ISSUE-120 -- Use of prefixes is too complicated for a Web technology -- raised
  284. # [18:20] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/120
  285. # [18:20] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-120: Use of prefixes is too complicated for a Web technology - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  286. # [18:20] <Zakim> +Radhika_Roy
  287. # [18:20] <rubys> mjs: raised against the RDFa spec
  288. # [18:20] <rubys> ISSUE-135?
  289. # [18:20] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-135
  290. # [18:20] <trackbot> ISSUE-135 -- put back direct link to the W3C version of the canvas 2d context spec -- raised
  291. # [18:20] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/135
  292. # [18:21] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-135: put back direct link to the W3C version of the canvas 2d context spec - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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  294. # [18:21] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aa]
  295. # [18:21] <rubys> mjs: there has been some discussion of this item on the list, and the recent update to the wiki may, for some people, be sufficient to resolve this issue
  296. # [18:21] <cyns> zakim, microsoft.aa is me
  297. # [18:21] <Zakim> +cyns; got it
  298. # [18:21] <rubys> issue-139?
  299. # [18:21] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-139
  300. # [18:21] <trackbot> ISSUE-139 -- HTML5 spec mentions Microdata in Acknowledgements -- raised
  301. # [18:21] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/139
  302. # [18:21] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-139: HTML5 spec mentions Microdata in Acknowledgements - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  303. # [18:22] <rubys> There is a micro data ack that appears in the html5 spec rather than the microdata spec
  304. # [18:22] <rubys> issue-140?
  305. # [18:22] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-140
  306. # [18:22] <trackbot> ISSUE-140 -- clarify the applicability of the term "conforming document" in cases where "applicable specifications" had been used to augment or change the base HTML5 specification -- raised
  307. # [18:22] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/140
  308. # [18:22] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-140: clarify the applicability of the term "conforming document" in cases where "applicable specifications" had been used to augment or change the base HTML5 specification - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  309. # [18:22] <rubys> mjs: Noah described his concerns in the TPAC
  310. # [18:22] <rubys> issue-141?
  311. # [18:22] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-141
  312. # [18:22] <trackbot> ISSUE-141 -- Allow definition lists to markup dialogue -- raised
  313. # [18:22] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/141
  314. # [18:22] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-141: Allow definition lists to markup dialogue - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  315. # [18:23] <Zakim> -cyns
  316. # [18:23] <rubys> mjs: was previously given as an example in HTML4
  317. # [18:23] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  318. # [18:23] <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
  319. # [18:23] <rubys> issue-143?
  320. # [18:23] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-143
  321. # [18:23] <trackbot> ISSUE-143 -- Remove the newly added "s" element -- raised
  322. # [18:23] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/143
  323. # [18:23] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-143: Remove the newly added "s" element - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  324. # [18:23] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  325. # [18:23] <paulc_> was dropped again
  326. # [18:23] <cyns> zakim, microsoft has me
  327. # [18:23] <Zakim> +cyns; got it
  328. # [18:23] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  329. # [18:24] <rubys> issue-129?
  330. # [18:24] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-129
  331. # [18:24] <trackbot> ISSUE-129 -- replace or modify the ARIA section of the HTML5 spec -- open
  332. # [18:24] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/129
  333. # [18:24] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-129: replace or modify the ARIA section of the HTML5 spec - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  334. # [18:24] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aa]
  335. # [18:24] <paulc_> zakim, [Microsoft.a] has me
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  337. # [18:24] <Zakim> +paulc_; got it
  338. # [18:24] <eliot> Zakim, [Microsoft.aa] is me
  339. # [18:24] <Zakim> +eliot; got it
  340. # [18:24] <eliot> zakim, mute me
  341. # [18:24] <Zakim> eliot should now be muted
  342. # [18:24] <rubys> mjs: we have an initial proposal, and we are asking for defense of the status quo or for a new proposal
  343. # [18:24] <rubys> mjs: any questions or comments?
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  345. # [18:24] <rubys> topic: New Surveys this week
  346. # [18:24] <rubys> issue-118?
  347. # [18:24] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-118
  348. # [18:24] <trackbot> ISSUE-118 -- Specification breaks semantics of existing link relations "index" and "first" -- open
  349. # [18:24] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/118
  350. # [18:25] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-118: Specification breaks semantics of existing link relations "index" and "first" - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  351. # [18:25] <rubys> mjs: I suggest looking at the survey
  352. # [18:25] <rubys> topic: Decisions this week
  353. # [18:26] <rubys> issue-97?
  354. # [18:26] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-97
  355. # [18:26] <trackbot> ISSUE-97 -- Remove/Discard the Meter Element -- closed
  356. # [18:26] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/97
  357. # [18:26] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-97: Remove/Discard the Meter Element - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  358. # [18:26] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Dec/0056.html
  359. # [18:26] <pimpbot> Title: Working Group Decision on ISSUE-97 meter from Maciej Stachowiak on 2010-12-08 (public-html@w3.org from December 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
  360. # [18:26] <rubys> mjs: any questions?
  361. # [18:26] <rubys> topic: New round of Working Drafts
  362. # [18:27] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2010OctDec/0019.html
  363. # [18:27] <pimpbot> Title: {agenda} HTML WG Telecon 2010-12-09: status of actions, calls, new decisions from Maciej Stachowiak on 2010-12-08 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from October to December 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
  364. # [18:27] <rubys> mjs: at this time, all pre-lc bugs have been addressed
  365. # [18:27] <rubys> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9452
  366. # [18:27] <pimpbot> 9452: silviapfeiffer1, P2, ASSIGNED, Handling of additional tracks of a multitrack audio/video resource
  367. # [18:28] <paulc_> q+
  368. # [18:28] * Zakim sees paulc_ on the speaker queue
  369. # [18:28] <rubys> mjs: the chairs plans to mark this as NEEDSINFO and TrackerRequest
  370. # [18:28] <rubys> ack next
  371. # [18:28] * Zakim sees paulc_ at the head of the speaker queue
  372. # [18:28] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
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  374. # [18:29] <rubys> paulc: I explained in the task force what we intend to do, and have already marked it as TrackerRequest
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  376. # [18:29] <rubys> paulc: I volunteered to attend the media subteam calls
  377. # [18:30] <rubys> mjs: I set the status to NEEDSINFO
  378. # [18:30] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Dec/0056.html
  379. # [18:30] <pimpbot> Title: Working Group Decision on ISSUE-97 meter from Maciej Stachowiak on 2010-12-08 (public-html@w3.org from December 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
  380. # [18:30] <rubys> cynthia: where can I find decisions?
  381. # [18:30] <rubys> rubys: on the WG home page
  382. # [18:31] <rubys> topic: Other Business
  383. # [18:31] <rubys> mjs: No telecons on December 23rd and December 30th.
  384. # [18:31] <rubys> mjs: there will be a telecon on December 16, so only one more before the break
  385. # [18:31] <rubys> mjs: other items?
  386. # [18:32] <rubys> topic: Scribe for next meeting
  387. # [18:32] <rubys> mjs: any volunteers?
  388. # [18:32] <rubys> paulc: I will chair
  389. # [18:32] <rubys> mjs: I will scribe
  390. # [18:32] <rubys> topic: Adjournment
  391. # [18:32] <Zakim> -Julian
  392. # [18:32] <rubys> mjs: see you all next week
  393. # [18:32] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  394. # [18:32] <eliot> thank you!
  395. # [18:32] <Zakim> - +1.212.220.aabb
  396. # [18:32] <Zakim> -Radhika_Roy
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  400. # [18:32] <Zakim> -Plh
  401. # [18:32] <Zakim> -eliot
  402. # [18:32] <rubys> rrsagent, publish minutes
  403. # [18:32] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/12/09-html-wg-minutes.html rubys
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  405. # [18:32] <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
  406. # [18:32] <Zakim> - +1.415.595.aacc
  407. # [18:32] <Zakim> -Sam
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  411. # [18:33] <Zakim> -Laura_Carlson
  412. # [18:33] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  413. # [18:33] <Zakim> Attendees were Sam, Julian, Plh, Michael_Cooper, dpenkler, eliot, paulc, cyns, +1.212.220.aabb, +1.415.595.aacc, Laura_Carlson, Radhika_Roy, [Microsoft], paulc_
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  417. # [18:41] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 9452] Handling of additional tracks of a multitrack audio/video resource" (3 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Dec/0315.html>
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  422. # [18:55] <pimpbot> planet: beverloo: The &lt;figure&gt; and &lt;figcaption&gt; elements are now supported by #WebKit as well http://goo.gl/NJaXU #HTML5 <http://twitter.com/beverloo/statuses/12910621804724224>
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  449. # [20:55] <pimpbot> planet: nimbuin: @joshmckenney you could ask in the HTML5Boilerplate mailing list: https://github.com/paulirish/html5-boilerplate/wiki/FAQs <http://twitter.com/nimbuin/statuses/12942809313050624>
  450. # [21:09] <pimpbot> changes: eliot: Added sentence in Section 4 about about:legacy-compat & XML per bug 11057; Added new section, "Comments in Polyglot Markup" per bug 11260; fixed malformed sample per bug 11516; Fixed attribute value decription per bug 11261; <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Dec/0037.html>
  451. # [21:11] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11057] doctype about:legacy-compat, t <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Dec/0322.html> ** [Bug 11260] Constraints on comments <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Dec/0321.html> ** [Bug 11261] Bogus reference to CDATA attributes <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Dec/0320.html> ** "[Bug 11516] sample document not well formed" (3 messages in th
  452. # [21:18] <CIA-1> html-spec: ia...@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * e9c7b4ec605e r5716 / (index complete.html): [e] (0) tweak the scripts to let people know about the multipage copies
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  462. # [22:56] <pimpbot> planet: RT @html5douche: JUST BECAUSE YOU USED THE HTML5 DOCTYPE ON YOUR ALL-FLASH SITE DOESNT MAKE IT HTML5. WELL. MAYBE IT DOES. BUT YOU CAN S ... <http://twitter.com/diveintomark/statuses/12979809604866049> ** zcorpan: RT @gisardo: "We are the first to implement #WebSockets". Fun video at http://bit.ly/en30Z6 :) #HTML5 <http://twitter.com/zcorpan/statuses/12972589819371520>
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