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  1. # Session Start: Sat Jan 08 00:00:00 2011
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  3. # [00:06] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 33fcf7ff0408 r5749 / (index complete.html source): [e] (0) ack for last checkin
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  10. # [00:23] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11020] Update the style sheet for the W3C copy to set the font-size for <code> elements to 1em. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0156.html>
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  13. # [00:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 92a5e4dd08d9 r5750 / (index complete.html source):
  14. # [00:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) Add best-practices sections for media elements.
  15. # [00:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11243
  16. # [00:50] <pimpbot> 11243: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, we should have a media element best practices section
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  19. # [00:53] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 11243] we should have a media element best practices section" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0158.html>
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  40. # [07:07] <CIA-1> validator: Michael(tm) Smith <mike@w3.org> * 7224d22402cd r597 syntax/relaxng/datatype/java/src/org/whattf/datatype/IriRef.java:
  41. # [07:07] <CIA-1> validator: Make IRI checker use current Rhino API.
  42. # [07:07] <CIA-1> validator: Rhino docs say Context.enter() is deprecated, so switched to using
  43. # [07:07] <CIA-1> validator: current ContextFactory.getGlobal().enterContext() instead.
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  47. # [07:55] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11295] Make script-inserted external scripts that have .async=false execute in the insertion order, default to true <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0159.html>
  48. # [08:25] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 11295] Make script-inserted external scripts that have .async=false execute in the insertion order, default to true" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0160.html>
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  58. # [12:26] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11695] import java.util.*; public class GeneralCalculation { static Scanner reader = new Scanner(System.in); public static void main(String[] args) { int Spearman, Slinger, Swordman, Planx, Archer, Sniper, Giro, Giant, Bomber, Ram, Catapult, Mortar, Doctor, Cook <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0162.html> ** [Bug 11605] how to get forms values <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2
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  61. # [12:52] <PC_Nerd> since html is still a working progress as such, is there any official validation media for documents which pass current validation?
  62. # [12:54] <MikeSmith> PC_Nerd: dunno what you mean by validation media
  63. # [12:54] <MikeSmith> you mean badges?
  64. # [12:56] <PC_Nerd> Well, whatever you call the media on: http://www.w3.org/QA/Tools/Icons
  65. # [12:56] <pimpbot> Title: The W3C "validation" icons (at www.w3.org)
  66. # [12:56] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11670] "The setTransform(a, b, c, d, e, f) method must [...] invoke the transform(a, b, c, d, e, f) method" - so if I set CanvasRenderingContext2D.prototype.transform=function(){alert()}, then calling setTransform would trigger the alert? Probably this shouldn't <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0163.html>
  67. # [12:57] <PC_Nerd> is there any official draft or such that I should use at this point in time?
  68. # [12:57] <MikeSmith> no
  69. # [12:57] <MikeSmith> we're not going to be providing any similar badges for HTML5 validation
  70. # [12:58] <PC_Nerd> ok, so is there any general objection for developers to create their own, as long as W3C logo etc isnt duplicated for (c) reasons?
  71. # [12:59] <MikeSmith> no objection
  72. # [12:59] <PC_Nerd> brilliant - thankyou!
  73. # [12:59] <MikeSmith> any logo/link that encourages other people to use the validator is definitely welcome
  74. # [13:00] <PC_Nerd> I try and link to it on all my documents/design's etc - however I wanted to check as I move to specific HTML 5 markup etc.
  75. # [13:01] <PC_Nerd> definately useful for QQ'ing at browser rendering bugs etc.
  76. # [13:01] <PC_Nerd> :)
  77. # [13:01] <MikeSmith> yup
  78. # [13:02] <MikeSmith> I think if you start using the HTML5 validator you're going to find that it does a lot of very useful checks that the current validator doesn't and can't
  79. # [13:03] <MikeSmith> e.g., just implemented support in the HTML5 validator today for checking the values of event-handler attributes
  80. # [13:03] <MikeSmith> onload, etc.
  81. # [13:03] <PC_Nerd> I've noticed a few things in the CSS validator too, but yes - I've definately fixed stuff that the validator has warned about - and when I looked twice at something I ended up with cleaner markup :)
  82. # [13:03] <PC_Nerd> ahh ok.
  83. # [13:03] <MikeSmith> the current CSS validator needs to be replaced too
  84. # [13:04] <PC_Nerd> so does that do any sort of "post" checking - where onclick events etc are added by javascript ( such as jquery?)
  85. # [13:04] <MikeSmith> no, because it doesn't check DOMs
  86. # [13:04] <PC_Nerd> ahh ok :)
  87. # [13:05] <PC_Nerd> doesnt support CSS3 from memory - didnt recognise border-radius earlier today
  88. # [13:05] <MikeSmith> right
  89. # [13:05] <PC_Nerd> and was showing browser specific extensions as errors...
  90. # [13:05] <MikeSmith> there is a fix for that one ready
  91. # [13:05] <MikeSmith> at least
  92. # [13:05] <MikeSmith> that should land soonish
  93. # [13:05] <MikeSmith> some Google guys made a patch for it
  94. # [13:05] <PC_Nerd> I know this is the html not css group - but does the css3 standard specify that -moz and similar vendor specific tags are errors?
  95. # [13:05] <PC_Nerd> ahh kelw
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  98. # [13:15] <PC_Nerd> welcome back :)
  99. # [13:17] <MikeSmith> it specifies that they are not errors
  100. # [13:17] <PC_Nerd> ahh ok - so hopefully the validator will be fixed soonish then for tha t:)
  101. # [13:17] <PC_Nerd> it was displaying them as errors :)
  102. # [13:19] <MikeSmith> yeah
  103. # [13:19] <MikeSmith> that fix should land within the next couple weeks
  104. # [13:19] <MikeSmith> I think
  105. # [13:29] <PC_Nerd> that would be great! :)
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  109. # [17:27] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11699] New: When calling input.focus(), should (a) the cursor be at the start, (b) the cursor be at the end or (c) the contents be selected? Please define <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0164.html>
  110. # [18:58] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11699] When calling input.focus(), should (a) the cursor be at the start, (b) the cursor be at the end or (c) the contents be selected? Please define <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0165.html>
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  113. # [21:28] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11295] Make script-inserted external scripts that have .async=false execute in the insertion order, default to true <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0166.html>
  114. # [23:59] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10808] text with unknown direction gets corrupted when inserted in content with opposite direction <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0168.html> ** [Bug 10828] i18n comment 4 : at least by default, <br> should constitute a bidi paragraph break <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0167.html>
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