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  11. # [01:02] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Disallow action='' and formaction='' since those get processed in an unexpected way. (whatwg r5784) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Jan/0081.html> ** hixie: xref (whatwg r5783) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Jan/0080.html> ** hixie: placate julian (whatwg r5782) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Jan/0079.html>
  12. # [01:02] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10693] Need a means for navigating between related timed tracks of media elements <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0493.html> ** [Bug 11557] Authors should not be allowed to specify roles on elements that they already have by default <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0492.html> ** "[Bug 10659] GET -> "Mutate action"" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Ar
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  14. # [01:18] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 65357d122b42 r5784 / (index complete.html source):
  15. # [01:18] <CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (1) make .action and .formAction handle the empty string more like the content attribute gets processed, for sanity (even though that value is technically not valid anyway)
  16. # [01:18] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11161
  17. # [01:18] <pimpbot> 11161: mounir.lamouri, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, form.action, button.formAction and input.formAction IDL attributes should return the document location when the content attribute is the empty string
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  19. # [01:32] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: make .action and .formAction handle the empty string more like the content attribute gets processed, for sanity (even though that value is technically not valid anyway) (whatwg r5785) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Jan/0082.html>
  20. # [01:32] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11745] Feature request: element.replaceSelection(str) for text fields <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0497.html> ** [Bug 11745] New: Feature request: element.replaceSelection(str) should change the text field's value by replacing the current selection with the provided string, which should then be the new selection. This is apparently supported well in IE's proprietary equivalent, and <http://lists.w3
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  22. # [02:02] <pimpbot> planet: sideshowbarker: @kylebarrow so UndoManager remains unimplemented for now & becomes a "next generation addition still in development", not core HTML5 feature <http://twitter.com/sideshowbarker/statuses/25337216981016576> ** sideshowbarker: @kylebarrow I think you asked by about UndoManager at one time; note that it's now been dropped from the W3C HTML5 draft http://goo.gl/aVy8s <http://twitter.com/sideshowbarker/statuses/25336067041267712>
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  55. # [09:34] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11746] New: Add video, object, img, input[type=image], embed, canvas { overflow: hidden; } since people don't expect these elements to overflow in combination with object-fit:cover (see https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52103 ) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0498.html>
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  58. # [10:02] <CIA-1> validator: Michael[tm] Smith <mike@w3.org> * 5967ff8930db r599 syntax/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Check text content of script. b=706, r=hsivonen
  59. # [10:04] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11557] Authors should not be allowed to specify roles on elements that they already have by default <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0500.html> ** [Bug 10486] References to "image" ARIA role should be "img" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0499.html>
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  62. # [10:23] <CIA-1> validator: Michael[tm] Smith <mike@w3.org> * a221bc155eba r600 syntax/relaxng/ (6 files in 2 dirs): Check event-handler attributes. b=808, r=hsivonen
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  70. # [11:34] <CIA-1> validator: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi> * 12b681f14a71 r691 htmlparser/src/nu/validator/htmlparser/dom/Dom2Sax.java: Make Dom2Sax robust against null local names in the DOM.
  71. # [11:34] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 11557] Authors should not be allowed to specify roles on elements that they already have by default" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0501.html>
  72. # [12:08] <CIA-1> validator: Michael[tm] Smith <mike@w3.org> * 3f9226defca8 r601 syntax/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Check for multiple default track. b=809, r=hsivonen
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  78. # [13:33] <CIA-1> validator: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi> * 7205dc3d1d0e r692 htmlparser/pom.xml: Update the Maven .pom for version 1.3.
  79. # [13:33] <CIA-1> validator: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi> * cb9f6e229896 r693 htmlparser/LICENSE.txt: Increment the copyright year in LICENSE.txt.
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  83. # [14:35] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10483] <figcaption> should be considered the caption of <figure> _itself_ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0502.html>
  84. # [15:05] <pimpbot> planet: hsivonen: Released new version of the Validator.nu HTML Parser for Java http://⌘.ws/parser and updated the JS version, too http://⌘.ws/ld #html5 <http://twitter.com/hsivonen/statuses/25545375695769601> ** Henri Sivonen: Version 1.3 of the Validator.nu HTML Parser Released <http://blog.whatwg.org/vnu-parser-1_3> ** stevefaulkner: there's politics then there's #HTML5 change proposal required to get a link in HTML5 to canvas 2d contex
  85. # [15:05] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11161] form.action, button.formAction and input.formAction IDL attributes should return the document location when the content attribute is the empty string <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0503.html>
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  87. # [15:35] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 11557] Authors should not be allowed to specify roles on elements that they already have by default" (5 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0509.html> ** [Bug 11499] make clear whether value attribute on input[type='button'] element can be empty <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0504.html>
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  91. # [16:06] <pimpbot> planet: brucel: Goodness! Microsoft dislikes webM http://bit.ly/eeEQ3m! Who'd've thunk it? Let's check my handy infographic: http://flic.kr/p/99JonL #html5 <http://twitter.com/brucel/statuses/25559024950841344>
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  95. # [16:14] <MikeSmith> issue-122?
  96. # [16:14] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-122
  97. # [16:14] <trackbot> ISSUE-122 -- alt text and description for Lady of Shalott example -- open
  98. # [16:14] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/122
  99. # [16:14] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-122: alt text and description for Lady of Shalott example - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  100. # [16:31] <MikeSmith> issue-80?
  101. # [16:31] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-80
  102. # [16:31] <trackbot> ISSUE-80 -- document conformance and device dependent display of title attribute content -- open
  103. # [16:31] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/80
  104. # [16:31] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-80: document conformance and device dependent display of title attribute content - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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  106. # [16:36] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11748] New: The "size" attribute is disallowed, but may be useful on input="file". IE, Firefox and Opera all implement it, allowing you to reliably change the size of the file path textbox (Webkit browsers don't use a textbox). Styling the file upload file using CSS, <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0510.html>
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  108. # [17:06] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11592] Browsers use customizable dictionaries to correct spelling and tend to mark some names as wrong, that it shouldn't. Maybe each website can inform the browser of words/names it expects to be used and add it (in the scope of that page) to the exceptions. If <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0511.html>
  109. # [17:07] <MikeSmith> issue-133?
  110. # [17:07] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-133
  111. # [17:07] <trackbot> ISSUE-133 -- Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) -- closed
  112. # [17:07] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/133
  113. # [17:07] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-133: Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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  124. # [17:58] <MikeSmith> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/summary_element
  125. # [17:58] <pimpbot> Title: ChangeProposals/summary element - HTML WG Wiki (at www.w3.org)
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  127. # [17:58] <MikeSmith> agenda+ http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/summary_element needs to be added to http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-032
  128. # [17:58] <pimpbot> Title: ChangeProposals/summary element - HTML WG Wiki (at www.w3.org)
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  130. # [17:59] <MikeSmith> agenda+ http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/summary_element needs to be added to http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-032
  131. # [17:59] * Zakim notes agendum 1 added
  132. # [17:59] <pimpbot> Title: ChangeProposals/summary element - HTML WG Wiki (at www.w3.org)
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  134. # [18:00] <MikeSmith> agenda+ http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-html5-20110113/
  135. # [18:00] * Zakim notes agendum 2 added
  136. # [18:00] <pimpbot> Title: HTML5 (at www.w3.org)
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  138. # [18:01] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
  139. # [18:01] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference
  140. # [18:01] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  141. # [18:01] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
  142. # [18:01] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  143. # [18:01] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  144. # [18:01] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  145. # [18:01] <trackbot> Date: 13 January 2011
  146. # [18:02] <rubys> chair: mjs
  147. # [18:02] <rubys> scribe: rubys
  148. # [18:02] * rubys changes topic to 'http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2011JanMar/0002.html'
  149. # [18:02] <Zakim> +[Apple]
  150. # [18:02] <mjs> Zakim, [Apple] is me
  151. # [18:02] <Zakim> +mjs; got it
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  155. # [18:03] <Julian> Zakim, who's on the phone?
  156. # [18:03] <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.215.286.aaaa, +25186aabb, mjs, +1.315.294.aacc
  157. # [18:03] <Zakim> +Sam
  158. # [18:03] <Zakim> - +1.315.294.aacc
  159. # [18:03] <Julian> Zakim, +25186aabb is me
  160. # [18:03] <Zakim> +Julian; got it
  161. # [18:03] <Kimberly> Zakim, +1.215.286.aaaa is me
  162. # [18:03] <Zakim> +Kimberly; got it
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  166. # [18:04] <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
  167. # [18:05] <mjs> Zakim, who is making noise?
  168. # [18:05] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
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  170. # [18:05] <Zakim> +Mike
  171. # [18:05] <janina> zakim, call janina
  172. # [18:05] <Zakim> ok, janina; the call is being made
  173. # [18:05] <Zakim> +Janina
  174. # [18:05] <Zakim> mjs, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: mjs (4%), +1.315.294.aadd (31%), Mike (14%)
  175. # [18:05] <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper
  176. # [18:05] <MikeSmith> Zakim, mute Mike
  177. # [18:05] <mjs> who is the 315 number?
  178. # [18:05] <Zakim> Mike should now be muted
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  180. # [18:06] <mjs> zakim, mute +1.315.294.aadd
  181. # [18:06] <Zakim> +1.315.294.aadd should now be muted
  182. # [18:06] <pimpbot> planet: brucel: "Is the removal of H.264 from Chrome a step backward for openness?" - No, says @opvard http://bit.ly/eBKey6 #html5 <http://twitter.com/brucel/statuses/25591152803577857> ** Anne van Kesteren: Why the Web needs WebM <http://annevankesteren.nl/2011/01/why-webm>
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  187. # [18:08] <Julian> yes
  188. # [18:08] * janina Yes, can hear you fine!
  189. # [18:08] <Zakim> + +1.732.859.aaee
  190. # [18:08] <rubys> 1. ACTION items due by Thursday, January 13
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  192. # [18:08] <rubys> action-193?
  193. # [18:08] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-193
  194. # [18:08] <trackbot> ACTION-193 -- Paul Cotton to and co-chairs to investigate how to handle standardization of websrt -- due 2010-12-16 -- OPEN
  195. # [18:08] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/193
  196. # [18:08] <rubys> mjs: this was deferred two weeks from last week
  197. # [18:09] <rubys> ACTION-193 due next week
  198. # [18:09] * trackbot attempting to change due date on ACTION-193.
  199. # [18:09] <trackbot> ACTION-193 And co-chairs to investigate how to handle standardization of websrt due date now next week
  200. # [18:09] <rubys> ACTION-29?
  201. # [18:09] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-29
  202. # [18:09] <trackbot> ACTION-29 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to follow up on the idea of a free-software-compatible license for a note on HTML authoring -- due 2011-01-13 -- OPEN
  203. # [18:09] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/29
  204. # [18:09] <rubys> mjs: plh?
  205. # [18:09] <rubys> mjs: moving on...
  206. # [18:09] <Zakim> +adrianba
  207. # [18:09] <rubys> ACTION-29 due next week
  208. # [18:09] * trackbot attempting to change due date on ACTION-29.
  209. # [18:09] <trackbot> ACTION-29 Follow up on the idea of a free-software-compatible license for a note on HTML authoring due date now next week
  210. # [18:09] <rubys> ACTION-190?
  211. # [18:09] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-190
  212. # [18:09] <trackbot> ACTION-190 -- Michael[tm] Smith to fix pubrules problems with "author-only" view of the HTML5 specification -- due 2011-01-13 -- OPEN
  213. # [18:09] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/190
  214. # [18:10] <MikeSmith> Zakim, unmute Mike
  215. # [18:10] <Zakim> Mike should no longer be muted
  216. # [18:10] <rubys> mjs: mike?
  217. # [18:10] <MikeSmith> close action-190
  218. # [18:10] * trackbot attempting to close ACTION-190.
  219. # [18:10] <trackbot> ACTION-190 Fix pubrules problems with "author-only" view of the HTML5 specification closed
  220. # [18:10] <rubys> mjs: not complete yet
  221. # [18:10] <rubys> s/mjs/mike/
  222. # [18:11] <rubys> 2. New Issues This Week:
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  225. # [18:11] <rubys> mjs: none
  226. # [18:11] <rubys> 3. Items Closed Last Week
  227. # [18:11] <rubys> mjs: none
  228. # [18:11] <rubys> 4. Items Closing This Week
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  230. # [18:11] <rubys> issue-119?
  231. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-119
  232. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-119 -- Certain relationships take on a special meaning when repeated; other solutions may be cleaner -- open
  233. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/119
  234. # [18:11] <rubys> mjs: alternate or counter proposals were due yesterday
  235. # [18:11] <rubys> issue-125?
  236. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-125
  237. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-125 -- Requirement to break RFC 2616 compliance with respect to single quotes not needed for legacy content -- open
  238. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/125
  239. # [18:12] <Zakim> +??P8
  240. # [18:12] <rubys> mjs: also due yesterday
  241. # [18:12] <rubys> issue-126?
  242. # [18:12] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-126
  243. # [18:12] <trackbot> ISSUE-126 -- Requirement to break RFC 2616 compliance with respect to backslashes not needed for legacy content -- open
  244. # [18:12] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/126
  245. # [18:12] <rubys> mjs: also due yesterday
  246. # [18:12] <rubys> mjs: any questions or comments?
  247. # [18:12] <rubys> issue-134?
  248. # [18:12] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-134
  249. # [18:12] <trackbot> ISSUE-134 -- Provide tablist and tab states for menu and command elements respectively -- raised
  250. # [18:12] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/134
  251. # [18:12] <shan> Zakim, ??P8 is me
  252. # [18:12] <Zakim> +shan; got it
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  254. # [18:12] <rubys> mjs: change proposals were due yesterday
  255. # [18:13] <rubys> issue-136?
  256. # [18:13] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-136
  257. # [18:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-136 -- would the <small> element be better handled in CSS? -- raised
  258. # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/136
  259. # [18:13] <rubys> mjs: also due yesterday
  260. # [18:13] <rubys> ISSUE-138?
  261. # [18:13] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-138
  262. # [18:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-138 -- "mutate action" for issueing a GET request is misleading -- raised
  263. # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/138
  264. # [18:13] <rubys> mjs: also due yesterday... we have a discussion on the mailing list that may result in amicable resolution
  265. # [18:13] <rubys> mjs: any questions or comments?
  266. # [18:13] <rubys> 5. Items Closing Next Week
  267. # [18:13] <rubys> issue-129?
  268. # [18:13] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-129
  269. # [18:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-129 -- replace or modify the ARIA section of the HTML5 spec -- open
  270. # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/129
  271. # [18:14] <rubys> mjs: alternate or counter proposals due Jan 17
  272. # [18:14] <rubys> mjs: any questions or comments?
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  274. # [18:14] <rubys> 6 calls for proposals due next week...
  275. # [18:14] <rubys> ISSUE-141?
  276. # [18:14] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-141
  277. # [18:14] <trackbot> ISSUE-141 -- Allow definition lists to markup dialogue -- raised
  278. # [18:14] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/141
  279. # [18:15] <rubys> mjs: suggests that the dl element be made conforming (as it was in HTML4)
  280. # [18:15] <rubys> ISSUE-143?
  281. # [18:15] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-143
  282. # [18:15] <trackbot> ISSUE-143 -- Remove the newly added "s" element -- raised
  283. # [18:15] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/143
  284. # [18:15] <rubys> mjs: suggests removing the s element (it was recently added back)
  285. # [18:15] <rubys> ISSUE-120?
  286. # [18:15] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-120
  287. # [18:15] <trackbot> ISSUE-120 -- Use of prefixes is too complicated for a Web technology -- raised
  288. # [18:15] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/120
  289. # [18:15] <rubys> mjs: suggests getting rid of prefixes
  290. # [18:15] <rubys> ISSUE-135?
  291. # [18:15] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-135
  292. # [18:15] <trackbot> ISSUE-135 -- put back direct link to the W3C version of the canvas 2d context spec -- raised
  293. # [18:15] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/135
  294. # [18:16] <rubys> mjs: due on the 19th
  295. # [18:16] <rubys> ISSUE-139
  296. # [18:16] <rubys> ISSUE-139?
  297. # [18:16] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-139
  298. # [18:16] <trackbot> ISSUE-139 -- HTML5 spec mentions Microdata in Acknowledgements -- raised
  299. # [18:16] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/139
  300. # [18:16] <rubys> mjs: this one concerns where the ack is placed
  301. # [18:16] <rubys> ISSUE-140?
  302. # [18:16] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-140
  303. # [18:16] <trackbot> ISSUE-140 -- clarify the applicability of the term "conforming document" in cases where "applicable specifications" had been used to augment or change the base HTML5 specification -- raised
  304. # [18:16] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/140
  305. # [18:16] <rubys> mjs: defines how a conforming document is defined
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  307. # [18:16] <rubys> mjs: any questions or comments?
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  309. # [18:17] <rubys> topic: New Calls this week
  310. # [18:17] <rubys> ISSUE-150?
  311. # [18:17] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-150
  312. # [18:17] <trackbot> ISSUE-150 -- consider reducing verbosity when talking about code points -- raised
  313. # [18:17] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/150
  314. # [18:17] <rubys> ISSUE-127?
  315. # [18:17] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-127
  316. # [18:17] <trackbot> ISSUE-127 -- Simplify characterization of link types -- open
  317. # [18:17] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/127
  318. # [18:17] <rubys> ISSUE-130?
  319. # [18:17] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-130
  320. # [18:17] <trackbot> ISSUE-130 -- allow tables to be used for layout purposes -- open
  321. # [18:17] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/130
  322. # [18:18] <rubys> mjs: issue-130 is mislabeled in the agenda
  323. # [18:18] <rubys> mjs: there are very few tracker issues left, we are closing in on the deadline
  324. # [18:19] <rubys> mjs: for bugs in the pre-LC component, now is the time to check and now is the time to do it. The final cut-off will be the 22nd. Any issues raised on these bugs after that date will be treated as a last call comment.
  325. # [18:19] <rubys> topic: Pending publications
  326. # [18:20] <rubys> mjs: we had a call for consensus late last year, and this draft should have initial resolution of all bugs
  327. # [18:20] <rubys> mjs: that publication will occur on the 13th
  328. # [18:20] <rubys> mjs: any questions or comments?
  329. # [18:20] <rubys> topic: Other Business
  330. # [18:20] * Zakim hears +1.315.294.aadd's hand up
  331. # [18:20] * Zakim sees +1.315.294.aadd on the speaker queue
  332. # [18:20] <rubys> mjs: any other business?
  333. # [18:21] * Zakim hears +1.315.294.aadd's hand up
  334. # [18:21] * Zakim sees +1.315.294.aadd on the speaker queue
  335. # [18:21] <MikeSmith> q+ to say http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/summary_element needs to be added to http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-032
  336. # [18:21] * Zakim sees +1.315.294.aadd, MikeSmith on the speaker queue
  337. # [18:21] <mjs> Zakim , unmute +1.315.294.aadd
  338. # [18:21] <mjs> Zakim, unmute +1.315.294.aadd
  339. # [18:21] <Zakim> +1.315.294.aadd was not muted, mjs
  340. # [18:23] <MikeSmith> Othmane Benyoucef
  341. # [18:23] <rubys> Othmane: emails are unorganized
  342. # [18:24] <rubys> Othmane: was wondering if his proposals would be accepted at this time
  343. # [18:24] <rubys> mjs: suggests bringing this up on the mailing list
  344. # [18:24] <MikeSmith> q+ to ask that chairs take a look at http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-html5-20110113/ while we are on the telcon
  345. # [18:24] * Zakim sees +1.315.294.aadd, MikeSmith on the speaker queue
  346. # [18:24] <rubys> mjs: as for technical proposals, no need to ask permission, simply post the proposals to the mailing lists
  347. # [18:24] <MikeSmith> ack +1
  348. # [18:24] * Zakim sees MikeSmith on the speaker queue
  349. # [18:25] <rubys> mjs: does this address the question?
  350. # [18:25] <rubys> http://dev.w3.org/html5/decision-policy/decision-policy.html
  351. # [18:25] <rubys> mike: please add summary_element change proposal to the issue-status page
  352. # [18:26] <rubys> mjs: please post these requests to the list
  353. # [18:26] <rubys> mike: ok
  354. # [18:26] <MikeSmith> ack Mike
  355. # [18:26] <Zakim> MikeSmith, you wanted to say http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/summary_element needs to be added to http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-032 and to
  356. # [18:26] <Zakim> ... ask that chairs take a look at http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-html5-20110113/ while we are on the telcon
  357. # [18:26] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  358. # [18:26] <rubys> mike: I have a draft of the spec that I would like the co-chairs to look at
  359. # [18:27] <rubys> mjs: looks like a working draft... I guess I don't have any specific comments
  360. # [18:27] <rubys> sam: neither do I
  361. # [18:27] <rubys> mike: I am still working on the other drafts
  362. # [18:27] <rubys> mike: it could be Friday before everything is published
  363. # [18:28] <rubys> mjs: ok
  364. # [18:28] <rubys> mjs: any other other business?
  365. # [18:28] <rubys> topic: Scribe for next meeting
  366. # [18:28] <Zakim> -eliot
  367. # [18:28] <rubys> mjs: any volunteers?
  368. # [18:28] * adrianba will scribe
  369. # [18:29] <rubys> adrian: volunteers
  370. # [18:29] <rubys> mjs: thanks adrian
  371. # [18:29] <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
  372. # [18:29] <rubys> topic: Adjournment
  373. # [18:29] <Zakim> - +1.732.859.aaee
  374. # [18:29] <Zakim> -Janina
  375. # [18:29] <MikeSmith> Zakim, drop Mike
  376. # [18:29] <Zakim> Mike is being disconnected
  377. # [18:29] <Zakim> -Mike
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  379. # [18:29] <Zakim> -Radhika_Roy
  380. # [18:29] <Zakim> -Kimberly
  381. # [18:29] <Zakim> -adrianba
  382. # [18:29] <Julian> bye
  383. # [18:29] <Zakim> -mjs
  384. # [18:29] <Zakim> -Julian
  385. # [18:29] <rubys> rrsagent, publish minutes
  386. # [18:29] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/01/13-html-wg-minutes.html rubys
  387. # [18:29] <Zakim> - +1.315.294.aadd
  388. # [18:29] <Zakim> -shan
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  406. # [19:38] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  407. # [19:38] <Zakim> Attendees were mjs, +1.315.294.aacc, Sam, Julian, Kimberly, +1.315.294.aadd, eliot, Mike, Janina, Michael_Cooper, Radhika_Roy, +1.732.859.aaee, adrianba, shan
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