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  33. # [05:47] <pimpbot> planet: Planet Opera: Choose Opera: Human HTML5 demo? <http://my.opera.com/chooseopera/blog/show.dml/24903032>
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  39. # [06:33] <CIA-1> validator: Michael[tm] Smith <mike@w3.org> * 3b751270f499 r605 syntax/relaxng/applications.rnc: Correct the broken checking of dropzone att. b=811
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  42. # [07:04] <CIA-1> validator: Michael[tm] Smith <mike@w3.org> * dc4d70a03fab r606 syntax/relaxng/datatype/java/src/org/whattf/datatype/ (IriRef.java FunctionBody.java):
  43. # [07:04] <CIA-1> validator: Force rhino to check for JS FunctionBody. b=812
  44. # [07:04] <CIA-1> validator: Thanks to ar112 for the patch.
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  47. # [07:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 2200d2575a13 r5788 / (index complete.html): [e] (0) minor edits
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  53. # [08:56] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11819] New: var c = document.getElementById('canvas'); var ctx = c.getContext('2d'); ctx.drawSvg(SVG_XML_OR_PATH_TO_SVG, dx, dy, dw, dh); <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0640.html>
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  55. # [10:26] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11820] New: du huensohn lass mich bearbeiten you are motherfucker <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0641.html>
  56. # [10:48] <pimpbot> planet: ercimomweb: HTML5 logo has arrived <http://openmediaweb.eu/2011/01/20/html5-logo-has-arrived/>
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  58. # [11:26] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11794] We should handle the case of a bunch of required controls all being hidden at once — the author shouldn't have to also go in an remove the 'required' attribute on each one. Maybe make hidden="" bar things from constraint validation? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0642.html>
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  61. # [11:56] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 11794] We should handle the case of a bunch of required controls all being hidden at once — the author shouldn't have to also go in an remove the 'required' attribute on each one. Maybe make hidden="" bar things from constraint validation?" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0643.html>
  62. # [12:17] <CIA-1> validator: Michael[tm] Smith <mike@w3.org> * 2e424c709c15 r607 syntax/relaxng/datatype/java/src/org/whattf/datatype/IriRef.java: simplify something slightly
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  65. # [12:27] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11822] New: applet[align=bottom], embed[align=bottom], iframe[align=bottom], img[align=bottom], input[type=image][align=bottom], object[align=bottom] should not have vertical-align:baseline, but bottom <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0644.html>
  66. # [12:49] <pimpbot> planet: Bruce Lawson: Two cheers for the W3C’s HTML5 logo <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/html5doctor/~3/9u_yPQilLOc/>
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  71. # [14:27] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11819] var c = document.getElementById('canvas'); var ctx = c.getContext('2d'); ctx.drawSvg(SVG_XML_OR_PATH_TO_SVG, dx, dy, dw, dh); <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0645.html>
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  73. # [14:57] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 11819] var c = document.getElementById('canvas'); var ctx = c.getContext('2d'); ctx.drawSvg(SVG_XML_OR_PATH_TO_SVG, dx, dy, dw, dh);" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0646.html>
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  79. # [15:57] <pimpbot> changes: sam: Call for proposals complete <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Jan/0106.html>
  80. # [15:57] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11794] We should handle the case of a bunch of required controls all being hidden at once — the author shouldn't have to also go in an remove the 'required' attribute on each one. Maybe make hidden="" bar things from constraint validation? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0649.html> ** [Bug 11797] <richtext> </richtext> This will provide a default rich text widget which is scriptable and should also
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  108. # [18:02] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
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  110. # [18:02] <Zakim> +Sam
  111. # [18:02] <Zakim> +Julian
  112. # [18:02] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
  113. # [18:02] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference
  114. # [18:02] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  115. # [18:02] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
  116. # [18:02] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  117. # [18:02] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  118. # [18:02] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  119. # [18:02] <trackbot> Date: 20 January 2011
  120. # [18:03] <Zakim> +[Apple]
  121. # [18:03] <mjs> Zakim, [Apple] is me
  122. # [18:03] <Zakim> +mjs; got it
  123. # [18:03] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
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  125. # [18:04] <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft] has adrianba,krisk
  126. # [18:04] <Zakim> +adrianba, krisk; got it
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  128. # [18:04] <adrianba> ScribeNick: adrianba
  129. # [18:04] <adrianba> Scribe: Adrian Bateman
  130. # [18:04] <adrianba> Chair: Sam Ruby
  131. # [18:04] <adrianba> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2011JanMar/0003.html
  132. # [18:04] <pimpbot> Title: {agenda} HTML WG Telecon 2010-01-20: status of actions, calls; task force reports from Sam Ruby on 2011-01-18 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from January to March 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
  133. # [18:05] <Zakim> + +39.535.8.aaaa
  134. # [18:05] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  135. # [18:05] <eliot> zakim, microsoft.a is me
  136. # [18:05] <Zakim> +eliot; got it
  137. # [18:05] <dpenkler> zakim,aaa is me
  138. # [18:05] <Zakim> sorry, dpenkler, I do not recognize a party named 'aaa'
  139. # [18:05] <dpenkler> zakim,aaaa is me
  140. # [18:05] <Zakim> +dpenkler; got it
  141. # [18:07] <eliot> I hear both of you
  142. # [18:07] <adrianba> TOPIC: ACTION items due by Thursday, January 20
  143. # [18:07] <adrianba> ACTION-29?
  144. # [18:07] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-29
  145. # [18:07] <trackbot> ACTION-29 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to follow up on the idea of a free-software-compatible license for a note on HTML authoring -- due 2011-01-20 -- OPEN
  146. # [18:07] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/29
  147. # [18:07] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-29: Follow up on the idea of a free-software-compatible license for a note on HTML authoring - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  148. # [18:08] <adrianba> mjs: if anything needed to be reported, it would come from plh
  149. # [18:08] <adrianba> ...nothing to report at the moment from me
  150. # [18:08] <adrianba> TOPIC: New Issues This Week
  151. # [18:08] <adrianba> ISSUE-153?
  152. # [18:08] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-153
  153. # [18:08] <trackbot> ISSUE-153 -- link type "external" either not useful or underspecified -- raised
  154. # [18:08] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/153
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  156. # [18:08] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-153: link type "external" either not useful or underspecified - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  157. # [18:08] <adrianba> ISSUE-154?
  158. # [18:08] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-154
  159. # [18:08] <trackbot> ISSUE-154 -- "sidebar" might not be a proper use of a link relation -- raised
  160. # [18:08] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/154
  161. # [18:08] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-154: "sidebar" might not be a proper use of a link relation - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  162. # [18:09] <adrianba> rubys: both of these will be last call issues since the bugs came after the cut-off
  163. # [18:09] <adrianba> ISSUE-155?
  164. # [18:09] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-155
  165. # [18:09] <trackbot> ISSUE-155 -- make <table border="1" cellpadding="10" cellspacing="0"> conforming -- open
  166. # [18:09] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/155
  167. # [18:09] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-155: make conforming - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  168. # [18:09] <adrianba> rubys: call for proposals issued and received first change proposal
  169. # [18:09] <adrianba> ISSUE-156?
  170. # [18:09] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-156
  171. # [18:09] <trackbot> ISSUE-156 -- Permit closing tag for new, void elements - for legacy compatibility = XHTML alignment -- raised
  172. # [18:09] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/156
  173. # [18:09] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-156: Permit closing tag for new, void elements - for legacy compatibility = XHTML alignment - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  174. # [18:09] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  175. # [18:09] <adrianba> rubys: opened since i sent the agenda
  176. # [18:09] <Zakim> +Radhika_Roy
  177. # [18:09] <adrianba> ...as we're getting close to the deadline i'll open a call for proposals after the meeting
  178. # [18:09] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft.a] has paulc
  179. # [18:09] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  180. # [18:09] <Julian> q+
  181. # [18:09] * Zakim sees Julian on the speaker queue
  182. # [18:10] <rubys> ack next
  183. # [18:10] * Zakim sees Julian at the head of the speaker queue
  184. # [18:10] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  185. # [18:10] <adrianba> julian: i thought the last call cut off was in jan
  186. # [18:10] <adrianba> rubys: the original deadline for bugs was in oct
  187. # [18:10] <adrianba> ...doesn't mean we can't accept issues, etc but won't hold up last call
  188. # [18:10] <adrianba> TOPIC: Items Closed Last Week
  189. # [18:11] <adrianba> ISSUE-119?
  190. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-119
  191. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-119 -- Certain relationships take on a special meaning when repeated; other solutions may be cleaner -- open
  192. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/119
  193. # [18:11] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-119: Certain relationships take on a special meaning when repeated; other solutions may be cleaner - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  194. # [18:11] <adrianba> ISSUE-125?
  195. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-125
  196. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-125 -- Requirement to break RFC 2616 compliance with respect to single quotes not needed for legacy content -- open
  197. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/125
  198. # [18:11] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-125: Requirement to break RFC 2616 compliance with respect to single quotes not needed for legacy content - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  199. # [18:11] <adrianba> ISSUE-126?
  200. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-126
  201. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-126 -- Requirement to break RFC 2616 compliance with respect to backslashes not needed for legacy content -- open
  202. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/126
  203. # [18:11] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-126: Requirement to break RFC 2616 compliance with respect to backslashes not needed for legacy content - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  204. # [18:11] <adrianba> rubys: these we have calls for amicable resolution and ongoing discussion on the mailing list
  205. # [18:11] <adrianba> ISSUE-134?
  206. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-134
  207. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-134 -- Provide tablist and tab states for menu and command elements respectively -- closed
  208. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/134
  209. # [18:11] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-134: Provide tablist and tab states for menu and command elements respectively - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  210. # [18:11] <adrianba> ISSUE-136?
  211. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-136
  212. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-136 -- would the <small> element be better handled in CSS? -- closed
  213. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/136
  214. # [18:11] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-136: would the element be better handled in CSS? - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  215. # [18:11] <adrianba> rubys: both closed without prejudice as we are yet to receive a change proposal
  216. # [18:12] <adrianba> ISSUE-138?
  217. # [18:12] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-138
  218. # [18:12] <trackbot> ISSUE-138 -- "mutate action" for issueing a GET request is misleading -- pending review
  219. # [18:12] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/138
  220. # [18:12] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-138: "mutate action" for issueing a GET request is misleading - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  221. # [18:12] <adrianba> rubys: change proposal received and call for amicable resolution based on this (change already made)
  222. # [18:12] <adrianba> TOPIC: Items Closing This Week
  223. # [18:12] <adrianba> ISSUE-120?
  224. # [18:12] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-120
  225. # [18:12] <trackbot> ISSUE-120 -- Use of prefixes is too complicated for a Web technology -- open
  226. # [18:12] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/120
  227. # [18:12] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-120: Use of prefixes is too complicated for a Web technology - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  228. # [18:12] <adrianba> ISSUE-135?
  229. # [18:12] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-135
  230. # [18:12] <trackbot> ISSUE-135 -- put back direct link to the W3C version of the canvas 2d context spec -- open
  231. # [18:12] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/135
  232. # [18:13] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-135: put back direct link to the W3C version of the canvas 2d context spec - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  233. # [18:13] <adrianba> ISSUE-139?
  234. # [18:13] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-139
  235. # [18:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-139 -- HTML5 spec mentions Microdata in Acknowledgements -- open
  236. # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/139
  237. # [18:13] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-139: HTML5 spec mentions Microdata in Acknowledgements - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  238. # [18:13] <adrianba> ISSUE-140?
  239. # [18:13] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-140
  240. # [18:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-140 -- clarify the applicability of the term "conforming document" in cases where "applicable specifications" had been used to augment or change the base HTML5 specification -- open
  241. # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/140
  242. # [18:13] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-140: clarify the applicability of the term "conforming document" in cases where "applicable specifications" had been used to augment or change the base HTML5 specification - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  243. # [18:13] <adrianba> rubys: change proposal and counter proposal for 139
  244. # [18:13] <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike-goog
  245. # [18:13] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
  246. # [18:13] <Zakim> +Mike
  247. # [18:13] <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper
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  249. # [18:13] <adrianba> rubys: change proposal for 140
  250. # [18:14] <adrianba> rubys: nothing received for the others
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  252. # [18:14] <adrianba> TOPIC: Items Closing Next Week
  253. # [18:14] <adrianba> ISSUE-142?
  254. # [18:14] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-142
  255. # [18:14] <trackbot> ISSUE-142 -- No alternative text description for video key frame (poster) -- raised
  256. # [18:14] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/142
  257. # [18:14] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-142: No alternative text description for video key frame (poster) - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  258. # [18:14] <adrianba> ISSUE-144?
  259. # [18:14] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-144
  260. # [18:14] <trackbot> ISSUE-144 -- <u> should be conforming -- raised
  261. # [18:14] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/144
  262. # [18:14] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-144: should be conforming - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  263. # [18:14] <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
  264. # [18:14] <adrianba> ISSUE-145?
  265. # [18:14] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-145
  266. # [18:14] <trackbot> ISSUE-145 -- use of "codecs" parameter -- raised
  267. # [18:14] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/145
  268. # [18:14] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-145: use of "codecs" parameter - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  269. # [18:14] <adrianba> ISSUE-146?
  270. # [18:14] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-146
  271. # [18:14] <trackbot> ISSUE-146 -- <video> should allow muted as a content attribute -- raised
  272. # [18:14] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/146
  273. # [18:14] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-146: should allow muted as a content attribute - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  274. # [18:14] <adrianba> rubys: all of these due jan 26
  275. # [18:15] <Julian> we do have a proposal for ISSUE-135, right?
  276. # [18:15] <adrianba> TOPIC: New Calls this week
  277. # [18:15] * Julian wast just checking because this was way too fast
  278. # [18:15] <adrianba> rubys: (correction - we did receive proposals on all items closing this week - next status will be issue a call for counter proposals)
  279. # [18:16] <Zakim> -Mike
  280. # [18:16] <adrianba> ISSUE-138?
  281. # [18:16] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-138
  282. # [18:16] <trackbot> ISSUE-138 -- "mutate action" for issueing a GET request is misleading -- pending review
  283. # [18:16] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/138
  284. # [18:16] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-138: "mutate action" for issueing a GET request is misleading - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  285. # [18:16] <adrianba> ISSUE-119?
  286. # [18:16] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-119
  287. # [18:16] <trackbot> ISSUE-119 -- Certain relationships take on a special meaning when repeated; other solutions may be cleaner -- open
  288. # [18:16] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/119
  289. # [18:16] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-119: Certain relationships take on a special meaning when repeated; other solutions may be cleaner - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  290. # [18:16] <adrianba> ISSUE-125?
  291. # [18:16] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-125
  292. # [18:16] <trackbot> ISSUE-125 -- Requirement to break RFC 2616 compliance with respect to single quotes not needed for legacy content -- open
  293. # [18:16] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/125
  294. # [18:16] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-125: Requirement to break RFC 2616 compliance with respect to single quotes not needed for legacy content - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  295. # [18:16] <adrianba> ISSUE-126?
  296. # [18:16] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-126
  297. # [18:16] <trackbot> ISSUE-126 -- Requirement to break RFC 2616 compliance with respect to backslashes not needed for legacy content -- open
  298. # [18:16] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/126
  299. # [18:16] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-126: Requirement to break RFC 2616 compliance with respect to backslashes not needed for legacy content - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  300. # [18:17] <Zakim> -Julian
  301. # [18:17] <adrianba> rubys: calls for consensus on all these (as mentioned earlier in the agenda)
  302. # [18:17] <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike-goog
  303. # [18:17] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
  304. # [18:17] <Zakim> +Mike
  305. # [18:17] <adrianba> ISSUE-131?
  306. # [18:17] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-131
  307. # [18:17] <trackbot> ISSUE-131 -- Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? -- raised
  308. # [18:17] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/131
  309. # [18:17] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-131: Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  310. # [18:17] <adrianba> ISSUE-152?
  311. # [18:17] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-152
  312. # [18:17] <trackbot> ISSUE-152 -- Handling of additional tracks of a multitrack audio/video resource -- raised
  313. # [18:17] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/152
  314. # [18:17] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-152: Handling of additional tracks of a multitrack audio/video resource - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  315. # [18:17] <adrianba> ISSUE-155?
  316. # [18:17] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-155
  317. # [18:17] <trackbot> ISSUE-155 -- make <table border="1" cellpadding="10" cellspacing="0"> conforming -- open
  318. # [18:17] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/155
  319. # [18:17] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-155: make conforming - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  320. # [18:17] <adrianba> rubys: all due feb 21
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  322. # [18:17] <MikeSmith> q+ to say that (at end of normal agenda) I have a question about who other than the original commenter can move bugs to CLOSED, and when
  323. # [18:17] * Zakim sees MikeSmith on the speaker queue
  324. # [18:17] <janina> zakim, call janina
  325. # [18:17] <Zakim> ok, janina; the call is being made
  326. # [18:17] <Zakim> +Janina
  327. # [18:17] <Zakim> +Julian
  328. # [18:17] <adrianba> rubys: i also plan to make a call for change proposals on ISSUE-156 after this call
  329. # [18:18] <adrianba> TOPIC: New Surveys this week
  330. # [18:18] <adrianba> rubys: None
  331. # [18:18] <adrianba> TOPIC: Task Force Reports - Testing Task Force
  332. # [18:18] <adrianba> krisk: met as planned last tuesday
  333. # [18:18] <adrianba> ...talked a little about the canvas test approval
  334. # [18:19] <adrianba> ...move the vast majority into the approved folder
  335. # [18:19] <adrianba> ...group also talked about the upcoming server name change that plh and the w3c team are working on
  336. # [18:19] <adrianba> ...some discussion about php support and that it would be best for plh to work with webapps xhr as a good sample for using php
  337. # [18:19] <adrianba> ...group meets again this coming tuesday
  338. # [18:20] <adrianba> ...going to start looking at submitted audio and video cases - there about 200 of these
  339. # [18:20] <adrianba> ...need to get consensus and we can move these to the approved folder too
  340. # [18:20] <adrianba> ...that's it - any questions?
  341. # [18:20] <adrianba> TOPIC: Task Force Reports - Accessibility Task Force
  342. # [18:21] <adrianba> janina: top news item is that we've scheduled a f2f mar 19/20 in san diego
  343. # [18:21] <adrianba> ...there is an annual conference for a11y and many people will be there anyway
  344. # [18:21] <adrianba> ...also ahead of an important date in LC timeline
  345. # [18:21] <adrianba> ...expect to close issues there
  346. # [18:21] <adrianba> ...will extend an invitation to wider community than typical wed meeting
  347. # [18:22] <adrianba> ...moving forward - getting lots of bugs dealt with
  348. # [18:22] <adrianba> ...in some cases closed, in other cases more work to do but making good progress
  349. # [18:22] <adrianba> ...mike and i are continuing to emphasise that we need to be closing and getting to consensus on change proposals
  350. # [18:22] <adrianba> ...good activity on aria mappings - good feedback from the editor
  351. # [18:23] <adrianba> ...healthy interaction
  352. # [18:23] <adrianba> ...canvas is making progress and getting more vendors involved
  353. # [18:23] <adrianba> ...in media we were talking about video poster but we had under specified the user requirement and we are unclear about how to resolve on the engineering side
  354. # [18:24] <adrianba> ...we need to get a bug filed here and find out if there are potential issues for the spec or if it us an author issue
  355. # [18:24] <adrianba> ...this is related to autoplay of media that can be an a11y issue
  356. # [18:24] <adrianba> ...as a screen reader if something starts playing and i can't control it that is a problem
  357. # [18:24] <adrianba> ...we're not accustomed to dealing with media requirements and so we missed this
  358. # [18:25] <adrianba> MikeSmith: one other thing i wanted to mention about the TF call
  359. # [18:25] <adrianba> ...we have a bug triage team for a few months going through the open bugs relating to a11y
  360. # [18:25] <adrianba> ...and closing and commenting and making recommendations
  361. # [18:25] <adrianba> ...the decision policy doesn't seem to give complete guidance for bugs that have been verified for more than two weeks
  362. # [18:26] <adrianba> ...what is supposed to happen is that we assume no response is coming and the disposition of comments could say that
  363. # [18:26] <adrianba> ...it doesn't say we can close it though
  364. # [18:26] <adrianba> ...so i think myself that it should be fine for anyone to close at that point
  365. # [18:26] <adrianba> ...i assume what we should do is file a bug against decision policy
  366. # [18:26] <adrianba> rubys: yes
  367. # [18:26] <MikeSmith> q?
  368. # [18:26] * Zakim sees MikeSmith on the speaker queue
  369. # [18:26] <MikeSmith> ack MikeSmith
  370. # [18:26] <Zakim> MikeSmith, you wanted to say that (at end of normal agenda) I have a question about who other than the original commenter can move bugs to CLOSED, and when
  371. # [18:26] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  372. # [18:27] <adrianba> mjs: i think this might be dealt with - bugs get closed when they timeout
  373. # [18:27] <adrianba> MikeSmith: okay, i'll look - if it is already covered then i won't file a bug - i need to get back to the triage team
  374. # [18:27] <adrianba> TOPIC: Other Business
  375. # [18:27] <adrianba> rubys: anybody have any other business?
  376. # [18:27] <adrianba> rubys: i have none and hear no others
  377. # [18:27] <adrianba> TOPIC: Scribe for next meeting
  378. # [18:28] <adrianba> rubys: any volunteers?
  379. # [18:28] <adrianba> rubys: hearing no other volunteers, i will volunteer
  380. # [18:29] <adrianba> TOPIC: Adjournment
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  382. # [18:29] <adrianba> rubys: if no objections, we will adjourn
  383. # [18:29] <Zakim> -mjs
  384. # [18:29] * rubys GREAT job adrianba, particularly keeping up with janina!
  385. # [18:29] <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
  386. # [18:29] <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
  387. # [18:29] <Zakim> -Janina
  388. # [18:29] <Zakim> -Sam
  389. # [18:29] * Parts: janina (janina@66.92.170.178)
  390. # [18:29] <Zakim> -Julian
  391. # [18:29] <Zakim> -eliot
  392. # [18:29] <Zakim> -dpenkler
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  394. # [18:29] * MikeSmith Zakim, drop Mike
  395. # [18:29] * Zakim Mike is being disconnected
  396. # [18:29] <Zakim> -Mike
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  398. # [18:29] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  399. # [18:30] <adrianba> zakim, bye
  400. # [18:30] <Zakim> leaving. As of this point the attendees were Sam, Julian, mjs, adrianba, krisk, +39.535.8.aaaa, [Microsoft], eliot, dpenkler, Radhika_Roy, paulc, Mike, Michael_Cooper,
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  404. # [18:30] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/01/20-html-wg-minutes.html adrianba
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  414. # [19:28] <pimpbot> changes: sam: CfP for 156 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Jan/0107.html>
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  421. # [20:29] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11311] At http://dev.w3.org/html5/2dcontext/ The link under "This Version:" is not working. http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-2dcontext-20101109/ returns Error 404, "Sorry, Not Found." <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0652.html>
  422. # [21:29] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11825] New: math-parse02.html invalid <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0653.html>
  423. # [21:48] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * bfc87b333200 r5789 / (index complete.html source): [giow] (0) Fix the IDL for DataTransfer, and change the emphasis of the section to put the new API first.
  424. # [21:48] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 2eb2f8ecde31 r5790 / (index complete.html source):
  425. # [21:48] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) fix nomenclature
  426. # [21:48] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11226
  427. # [21:48] <pimpbot> 11226: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, "the element selected in by the previous step" should be "/context/"
  428. # [21:48] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * dd3f77e776e5 r5791 / (index complete.html source): [e] (0) typo
  429. # [21:59] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: typo (whatwg r5792) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Jan/0110.html> ** hixie: fix nomenclature (whatwg r5791) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Jan/0109.html> ** hixie: Fix the IDL for DataTransfer, and change the emphasis of the section to put the new API first. (whatwg r5790) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Jan/0108.html>
  430. # [21:59] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 11226] "the element selected in by the previous step" should be "/context/"" (3 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0657.html> ** [Bug 11191] Run scripts based on a parser flag rather than on being a fragment parser <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0654.html>
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  434. # [22:29] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11826] New: Your leading nav element has no title, thus is in contradiction to the proposal. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0658.html>
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