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  3. # [00:05] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: simplify the CDATA syntax description (whatwg r5926) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Mar/0021.html> ** eliot: Edited the example in Section 7, Attributes, to include escaped characters for less-than and greater-than characters. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Mar/0020.html>
  4. # [00:05] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12062] UTF-8 BOM should not be forbidden in Polyglot Markup <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0097.html> ** [Bug 10788] @srcdoc in polyglot documents <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0096.html>
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  10. # [00:35] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Drop forminput and formchange events, and their associated machinery, since you can now put oninput and onchange everywhere which makes them far less compelling. (whatwg r5928) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Mar/0023.html> ** hixie: Forgot to update this text when we added dropzone. (whatwg r5927) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Mar/0022.html>
  11. # [00:35] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12062] UTF-8 BOM should not be forbidden in Polyglot Markup <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0103.html> ** [Bug 11959] Hi, user agents are "encouraged" to make it possible to view tooltips without the use of a pointing device (it means while browsing with the keyboard for instance). Why don't we make this an obligation instead of an encouragement ? If we don't make it a " <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/
  12. # [00:45] <pimpbot> planet: Ragavan: First developer release of Web Apps Project <http://mozillalabs.com/blog/2011/03/first-developer-release-of-web-apps-project/> ** Susan Taing: Press Start: launching Google Game Developer Central <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Dcni/~3/aqZScUUDvWw/press-start-launching-google-game.html>
  13. # [01:05] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: clarify that this is an 'or' list. (whatwg r5930) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Mar/0026.html> ** hixie: this was supposed to be a note (whatwg r5929) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Mar/0025.html> ** sam: Correct link to first CP for issue-127 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Mar/0024.html>
  14. # [01:05] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 11963] The namedItem(key) method must return the first node in the collection that matches the following requirements: •It is an a, applet, area, embed, form, frame, frameset, iframe, img, or object element with a name attribute equal to key, or, •It is an e" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0110.html> ** "[Bug 11946] "The discarded bits mean that, for instance, atob("YQ"
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  19. # [01:35] <pimpbot> changes: postmsg; hixie: typo <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Mar/0029.html> ** hixie: typo (whatwg r5932) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Mar/0028.html> ** hixie: consistency (whatwg r5931) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Mar/0027.html>
  20. # [01:35] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11912] HTML5 provides an opportunity to fix a long-running problem with HTTP Authentication. HTTP Authentication is important, because it is the only way to execute a request with 100% certainty that the user has provided an authentication secret. Furthermore, <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0117.html> ** [Bug 11368] Missing Typographic Convention - Switch Construct <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Publi
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  23. # [01:45] <pimpbot> planet: A Googler: Press Start: launching Google Game Developer Central <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Dcni/~3/aqZScUUDvWw/press-start-launching-google-game.html>
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  26. # [02:05] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Be better about how we define the creation of scripts for event handler attributes (specifically, how we interact with the JS spec). (whatwg r5933) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Mar/0030.html>
  27. # [02:05] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 11579] Support for IDNs in e-mail addresses should be "should" or "must", not just "may"" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0121.html> ** "[Bug 11977] HTML5 spec. seems to unnecessarily ban strict mode event handlers" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0119.html>
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  36. # [02:35] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Abstract out an algorithm for Anne. (whatwg r5937) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Mar/0034.html> ** hixie: typo (whatwg r5936) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Mar/0033.html> ** hixie: typo (whatwg r5935) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Mar/0032.html> ** hixie: s/may/should/ on IDN support in input. (whatwg r5934) <http://lists.w3.org/Ar
  37. # [02:35] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 12005] It would be nice if "constructing the form data set" was an actual algorithm term and included the steps before about gathering the controls associated with the form. That way FormData(HTMLFormElement) is easier to define. And I like easy." (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0134.html> ** [Bug 11368] Missing Typographic Convention - Switch Construct <http://lists.w3.org/Arc
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  40. # [03:06] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: typo (whatwg r5939) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Mar/0037.html> ** eliot: Corrected date and reverted less-than characters from escaped characters in the example in section 7. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Mar/0036.html> ** hixie: multipart/form-data MIME type needs to include the boundary (whatwg r5938) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Mar/
  41. # [03:06] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12021] Is <time>2011</time> acceptable? The formulation "precisedate" suggests that it is not, but an example says that "the year is not marked up at all, since marking it up would not be particularly useful", implying (IMHO) that it would be _possible_ to use < <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0151.html> ** [Bug 12022] Shouldn't the iframe element be made into a void element? You're saying its descendent
  42. # [03:36] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: clarify <time> example (whatwg r5941) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Mar/0039.html> ** hixie: typo in the allowed UTF-8 ranges (whatwg r5940) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Mar/0038.html>
  43. # [03:36] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 11912] HTML5 provides an opportunity to fix a long-running problem with HTTP Authentication. HTTP Authentication is important, because it is the only way to execute a request with 100% certainty that the user has provided an authentication secret. Furthermore," (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0160.html> ** [Bug 11253] Description of input event doesn't seem to match what browsers
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  48. # [04:06] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Fix the UTF-8 decoder error handling to handle a few errors I'd missed, including in particular surrogate halves. This may be a mistake; if I'm forgetting something please let me know so I can fix it. (e.g. did we decide not to catch surrogates or something?) (whatwg r5942) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Mar/0040.html>
  49. # [04:06] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11960] Consider making the global scope pollution by names/ids quirks-only <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0171.html> ** [Bug 11298] Surrogate catching doesn't belong in input stream preprocessing <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0170.html> ** [Bug 12023] How shall invalid code points from U+D800 to U+DFFF be handled - a replacement character U+FFFD REPLACEMENT CH
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  52. # [04:36] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10723] Support stopping at the time given by a media resource's fragment identifier <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0172.html>
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  56. # [05:46] <pimpbot> planet: Planet Opera: Karl Dubost: HTML5, a better documentation <http://my.opera.com/karlcow/blog/show.dml/26861281>
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  73. # [08:37] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9452] Handling of additional tracks of a multitrack audio/video resource <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0174.html> ** [Bug 11977] HTML5 spec. seems to unnecessarily ban strict mode event handlers <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0173.html>
  74. # [08:47] <pimpbot> planet: Ali Pasha: Press Start: launching Google Game Developer Central <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Dcni/~3/aqZScUUDvWw/press-start-launching-google-game.html>
  75. # [09:07] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12235] Make <xmp> conforming <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0175.html>
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  79. # [09:37] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12236] New: s/port of a sequence/part of a sequence/ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0176.html>
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  89. # [10:07] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11988] "then set to true." +it <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0177.html>
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  94. # [10:37] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11956] restrict use of role=presentation <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0179.html> ** [Bug 12237] New: The MIME type for multipart/form-data needs "boundary=" inserted as well. Please do not make it part of the boundary string by the way. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0178.html>
  95. # [10:47] <pimpbot> planet: Susan Taing: Press Start: launching Google Game Developer Central <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Dcni/~3/aqZScUUDvWw/press-start-launching-google-game.html>
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  97. # [11:08] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12230] From this algorithm it does not seem to follow that dispatching a synthetic non-canceled submit event at a form causes it to be submitted. Yet that is what browsers implement. So that forms have a default handler for submit events should probably be split <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0180.html>
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  106. # [11:38] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11129] Remove forminput, formchange and related dispatch methods <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0181.html>
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  111. # [12:38] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10788] @srcdoc in polyglot documents <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0183.html> ** [Bug 12165] The requirement on the plaintext element conflicts with its old definition and usage. It is better to avoid requiring any support than to require support that breaks legacy usage. The plaintext element should be regarded as undefined in HTML5. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar
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  131. # [16:39] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10723] Support stopping at the time given by a media resource's fragment identifier <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0186.html> ** [Bug 12239] New: DrawImage() typographic error <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0185.html>
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  135. # [17:49] <pimpbot> planet: A Googler: Press Start: launching Google Game Developer Central <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Dcni/~3/aqZScUUDvWw/press-start-launching-google-game.html>
  136. # [18:09] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12239] DrawImage() typographic error <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0190.html> ** "[Bug 12240] "The values 'true' and 'false' are not allowed on boolean attributes." - this also implies that "false" is not a valid attribute name, since ... false="false" ... (meaning the "false" property is 'true') would not be permitted in XML serialization" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public
  137. # [18:39] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12235] Make <xmp> conforming <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0192.html> ** [Bug 9452] Handling of additional tracks of a multitrack audio/video resource <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0191.html>
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  140. # [19:09] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11956] restrict use of role=presentation <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0196.html> ** [Bug 12240] "The values 'true' and 'false' are not allowed on boolean attributes." - this also implies that "false" is not a valid attribute name, since ... false="false" ... (meaning the "false" property is 'true') would not be permitted in XML serialization <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla
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  144. # [19:40] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 11960] Consider making the global scope pollution by names/ids quirks-only" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0200.html> ** [Bug 11956] restrict use of role=presentation <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0198.html> ** [Bug 12235] Make <xmp> conforming <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0197.html>
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  149. # [20:10] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11960] Consider making the global scope pollution by names/ids quirks-only <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0203.html> ** [Bug 12091] HTMLdocument named-item getter and object fallback <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0202.html> ** [Bug 12235] Make <xmp> conforming <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0201.html>
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  155. # [20:40] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12241] Should form="" always make the input unassociated? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0207.html> ** [Bug 12241] New: Should form="" always make the input unassociated? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0206.html> ** "[Bug 11956] restrict use of role=presentation" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Mar/0205.ht
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