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  6. # [00:18] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) mention the problem with UAs that don't support playbackRate reliably.
  7. # [00:18] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10837
  8. # [00:18] <pimpbot> 10837: franko, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, playbackrate: undefined behavior when the user agent can't play back at the requested rate
  9. # [00:21] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: mention the problem with UAs that don't support playbackRate reliably. (whatwg r6033) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Apr/0107.html>
  10. # [00:21] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 10837] playbackrate: undefined behavior when the user agent can't play back at the requested rate" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0666.html>
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  12. # [00:52] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12561] Add the @action in the <form> so that there is a way to submit to the same page <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0668.html> ** [Bug 12555] The informative note has contents that should be clearer in the normative text. Namely, a regular expression with alternate branches (a|ab) will match the string 'ab' in a more "greedy" way if compiled as the informative note suggests. As-is, implementat <htt
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  18. # [01:52] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12267] <video> Make video state transitions happen in the same task as firing events <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0671.html>
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  32. # [03:22] <pimpbot> changes: sam: Issue-147 commit <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Apr/0108.html>
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  37. # [05:53] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11239] Canvas support accessible caret tracking independent of Focus Ring tracking <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0672.html>
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  41. # [07:23] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12565] New: This section should clarify whether the following code should work: 'document.getElementsByTagName("html")[0].setAttribute("manifest", "offline.manifest");' <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0673.html>
  42. # [07:53] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11239] Canvas support accessible caret tracking independent of Focus Ring tracking <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0674.html>
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  44. # [08:50] <pimpbot> planet: A Googler: Getting smoother animated web content while reducing CPU usage <http://blog.chromium.org/2011/03/getting-smoother-animated-web-content.html> ** Ali Pasha: Fridaygram <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Dcni/~3/Nj-L-D0-pFY/fridaygram_22.html>
  45. # [08:54] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12566] New: draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie published as RFC 6265 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0675.html>
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  48. # [09:24] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12563] Make standard to play these codecs in <video> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0678.html> ** [Bug 12562] ARIA role example used as a conformance error is not a conformance error in HTML5 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0677.html> ** [Bug 12563] Make standard to play these codecs in <video> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr
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  51. # [09:54] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12564] This, for me is definately the way to go with text tracks. Since the text is embedded in the media file "In-Band" it means the content never gets lost. This is how we treat audio with video and is how DVD treated text too. Some devices such as iOS may not <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0680.html>
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  54. # [10:24] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 12545] MEDIA CONTROLLER requires loop attribute for grouped multitrack" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0683.html> ** [Bug 12563] Make standard to play these codecs in <video> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0681.html>
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  57. # [10:54] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12267] <video> Make video state transitions happen in the same task as firing events <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0684.html>
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  60. # [11:24] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12545] MEDIA CONTROLLER requires loop attribute for grouped multitrack <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0687.html> ** "[Bug 12175] <video> the order of the loadedmetadata, loadeddata and suspend event is not defined" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0686.html>
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  74. # [14:52] <pimpbot> planet: A Googler: Getting smoother animated web content while reducing CPU usage <http://blog.chromium.org/2011/03/getting-smoother-animated-web-content.html>
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  81. # [16:25] <pimpbot> changes: : Satisfy Peruvian beer sippers Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12500 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Apr/0112.html> ** : <video> example Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12437 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Apr/0111.html> ** : changes from ... to ... Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12436 <http://lists.w3.org/Archive
  82. # [16:25] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12500] "Previous Versions" not updated <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0693.html> ** [Bug 12437] Change <video src="ogg"></video> to <video src="example.webm"></video> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0692.html> ** [Bug 12436] Fix heading in changelogs section <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0691.html> ** [Bug 12435] remov
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  93. # [17:54] <pimpbot> planet: brett: Popcorn 0.5: now with Soundcloud! <http://webmademovies.org/popcorn-0-5-now-with-soundcloud>
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  97. # [18:02] <paulc> Good morning, Sam.
  98. # [18:02] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
  99. # [18:02] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference
  100. # [18:03] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  101. # [18:03] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  103. # [18:03] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  104. # [18:03] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  105. # [18:03] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  106. # [18:03] <trackbot> Date: 28 April 2011
  107. # [18:03] <paulc> zakim, who is on the call?
  108. # [18:03] <Zakim> On the phone I see Paul_Cotton, Radhika_Roy
  109. # [18:03] <rubys> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2011AprJun/0005.html
  110. # [18:03] <pimpbot> Title: RE: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2011-04-28: ISSUE-152, Decisions, TF reports, Last Call schedule from Paul Cotton on 2011-04-27 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from April to June 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
  111. # [18:03] <rubys> scribenick: rubys
  112. # [18:03] <rubys> chair: Paul Cotton
  113. # [18:03] <Zakim> +Sam
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  115. # [18:04] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  116. # [18:04] <eliot> zakim, microsoft is me
  117. # [18:04] <Zakim> +eliot; got it
  118. # [18:05] <Zakim> +[Apple]
  119. # [18:05] <hober> Zakim, Apple has me
  120. # [18:05] <Zakim> +hober; got it
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  124. # [18:08] <krisk> zakim, who is here?
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  126. # [18:09] <rubys> zakim, who is on the call?
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  130. # [18:10] <rubys> zakim, who is on the call?
  131. # [18:10] <Zakim> sorry, rubys, I don't know what conference this is
  132. # [18:10] <Zakim> On IRC I see oedipus, Zakim, janina, Lachy, krisk, eliot, MarkF, paulc, cjones, rubys, webr3, Martijnc_, kliehm, Lutoma, davidb, MikeSmith, ed, arronei, pingo, Dashiva, pimpbot,
  133. # [18:10] <oedipus> regrets+ Gregory_Rosmaita
  134. # [18:10] <Zakim> ... RRSAgent, krijnh, [tm], gavin__, Hixie, webben, gsnedders, Philip, gavin, hober, inimino, CIA-1, Jedi, jgraham, hsivonen, jmb, trackbot, heycam
  135. # [18:10] <rubys> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  136. # [18:10] <Zakim> ok, rubys, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  137. # [18:10] <oedipus> regrets+ Gregory_Rosmaita
  138. # [18:10] <rubys> zakim, who is on the call?
  139. # [18:10] <Zakim> On the phone I see Paul_Cotton, Radhika_Roy, Sam, eliot, [Apple], [Microsoft], ??P61
  140. # [18:10] <rubys> topic: ACTION items due by Thursday, April 28
  141. # [18:10] * oedipus is now known as oedipus_away
  142. # [18:10] <janina> zakim, ??P61 is janina
  143. # [18:10] <Zakim> +janina; got it
  144. # [18:10] <krisk> zakim, Microsoft is me
  145. # [18:10] <Zakim> +krisk; got it
  146. # [18:11] <rubys> paulc: there are none
  147. # [18:11] <rubys> topic: 2. New Issues This Week
  148. # [18:11] <rubys> paulc: there are none
  149. # [18:11] <rubys> topic: Items Closed Last Week
  150. # [18:11] <rubys> issue-152?
  151. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-152
  152. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-152 -- Handling of additional tracks of a multitrack audio/video resource -- open
  153. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/152
  154. # [18:11] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-152: Handling of additional tracks of a multitrack audio/video resource - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  155. # [18:11] <rubys> paulc: the decision is later on the agenda
  156. # [18:11] <rubys> topic: Items Closing This Week
  157. # [18:11] <rubys> paulc: there are none
  158. # [18:11] <rubys> topic: Items Closing Next Week
  159. # [18:11] <rubys> paulc: there are none
  160. # [18:12] <rubys> topic: New Calls this week
  161. # [18:12] <rubys> paulc: there are none
  162. # [18:12] <rubys> topic: New Surveys this week
  163. # [18:12] <rubys> paulc: none; but we have an impending survey
  164. # [18:12] <rubys> ... on the HTML5 license
  165. # [18:12] <rubys> topic: Decisions this week
  166. # [18:12] <rubys> paulc: issue-152 was closed without prejudice
  167. # [18:12] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Apr/0687.html
  168. # [18:12] <pimpbot> Title: Working Group Decision on Issue-152 multitrack-media-resources: Closed without Prejudice from Sam Ruby on 2011-04-27 (public-html@w3.org from April 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
  169. # [18:13] <rubys> paulc: the editor has made a set of changes; and work continues via pursuing 5 bug reports
  170. # [18:13] <rubys> topic: Testing Task Force
  171. # [18:13] <rubys> krisk: we met as planned on the 19th
  172. # [18:13] <krisk> Notes -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2011Apr/0013.html
  173. # [18:13] <pimpbot> Title: RE: HTML Testing Task Force Conf Call Agenda 4/19/2011 from Kris Krueger on 2011-04-28 (public-html-testsuite@w3.org from April 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
  174. # [18:14] <rubys> krisk: we are down to two bugs and an approved test
  175. # [18:14] <rubys> krisk: some discussion about harness changes (additive only)
  176. # [18:14] <rubys> krisk: there is some discussion about the webapps testing process
  177. # [18:14] <rubys> krisk: some more submissions from ms2ger and henri
  178. # [18:15] <rubys> krisk: still looking for feedback on the attribute reflection tests
  179. # [18:15] <rubys> paulc: quantitative size of the test suite?
  180. # [18:16] <rubys> krisk: we have about a 1000 in submission plus another couple of thousand in the pipeline
  181. # [18:16] <rubys> paulc: the chairs will be providing a report to the AC in mid may, so if you can send a note to the WG after your meeting next week that summarizes the number of approved and pending test that would help
  182. # [18:16] <rubys> krisk: ok
  183. # [18:17] <rubys> paulc: any questions?
  184. # [18:17] <rubys> topic: Accessibility Task Force
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  186. # [18:17] <rubys> janina: media is very active (on issue 152)... it seems that we are still very much on path for the May deadline
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  188. # [18:18] <rubys> janina: we believe that we are down to 4 items in work
  189. # [18:18] <rubys> janina: continuing to work the bugs
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  191. # [18:19] <rubys> janina: we are working on a defined list of alternative media types
  192. # [18:20] <rubys> janina: we are working on a canonical list of such types for multiple groups; working on where and how such a list be published (it has applicability outside of HTML5)
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  195. # [18:20] <janina> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Track_Kinds
  196. # [18:20] <pimpbot> Title: Track Kinds - HTML accessibility task force Wiki (at www.w3.org)
  197. # [18:20] <hober> mark watson?
  198. # [18:21] <Zakim> +Radhika_Roy.a
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  200. # [18:22] <rubys> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12544
  201. # [18:22] <pimpbot> 12544: jfoliot, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, MEDIA CONTROLLER requires track kind for in-band tracks
  202. # [18:22] <rubys> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12548
  203. # [18:22] <pimpbot> 12548: jfoliot, P2, NEW, MEDIA CONTROLLER requires onended event
  204. # [18:23] <paulc> resolution of 12548 is pending
  205. # [18:24] <rubys> janina: not clear that we would agree to proceed to last call unless these bugs are resolved
  206. # [18:24] <rubys> janina: other activity relates to new features that showed up the spec
  207. # [18:26] <rubys> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11239#c26
  208. # [18:26] <pimpbot> 11239: schwer, P2, NEW, Canvas support accessible caret tracking independent of Focus Ring tracking
  209. # [18:26] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12548] MEDIA CONTROLLER requires onended event <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0695.html> ** [Bug 12547] MEDIA CONTROLLER requires readyState for grouped multitrack <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0698.html> ** [Bug 12546] MEDIA CONTROLLER requires autoplay attribute for grouped multitrack <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0699.
  210. # [18:26] <paulc> Proposed patch: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/attachment.cgi?id=979
  211. # [18:26] <rubys> rubys: the change has not been made to the spec yet, it is just a proposed patch
  212. # [18:26] <rubys> paulc: we will cover this later in the agenda with 131
  213. # [18:28] <rubys> janina: we have a subteam looking at alternative text; they are on track for submitting a reconsideration request next week
  214. # [18:28] <rubys> paulc: one issue or several?
  215. # [18:28] <rubys> janina: plural
  216. # [18:28] <rubys> topic: Last Call schedule
  217. # [18:28] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Mar/0759.html
  218. # [18:28] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-152 survey and Last Call schedule from Paul Cotton on 2011-03-31 (public-html@w3.org from March 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
  219. # [18:29] <rubys> paulc: issue 152 survey would have run through tomorrow; instead we had everyone agree for the editor to commit his text as a starting point
  220. # [18:30] <rubys> paulc: working group members should be looking at the editor's draft
  221. # [18:30] <rubys> http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/
  222. # [18:30] <pimpbot> Title: HTML5 (at dev.w3.org)
  223. # [18:30] <rubys> topic: Applying the ISSUE-131 decision
  224. # [18:31] <rubys> paulc: editor was initially indicated that he couldn't implement the decision; the editor has posted a possible set of changes and they are under discussion
  225. # [18:31] <rubys> rubys: I'll also note that Rich posted a delta
  226. # [18:31] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Apr/0657.html
  227. # [18:31] <pimpbot> Title: Re: CP is incoherent, and the decision is a vague change to the CP from Richard Schwerdtfeger on 2011-04-26 (public-html@w3.org from April 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
  228. # [18:31] <paulc> Editor's proposed patch: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/attachment.cgi?id=979
  229. # [18:32] <rubys> topic: Applying the ISSUE-147 decision
  230. # [18:33] <rubys> paulc: initially the chairs didn't mark this bug properly; once this was corrected and brought to the editor's attention, it was promptly addressed
  231. # [18:33] <rubys> topic: Apr 22 -May 8 : WG reviews Apr 22 Editor's drafts
  232. # [18:33] <rubys> paulc: original plan was for the WG to review all but 152. The current editor's draft is dated yesterday.
  233. # [18:33] <paulc> Editor's draft: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/ dated April 27
  234. # [18:34] <pimpbot> Title: HTML5 (at dev.w3.org)
  235. # [18:34] <rubys> paulc: this contains all decisions including 152 and 147, but does not include 131 nor all of the bugs based on the change required for 152
  236. # [18:35] <rubys> paulc: we need to have all of the material implemented by May 8th (approximately 10 days from now)
  237. # [18:35] <rubys> janina: is this one stable and we should review it?
  238. # [18:35] <rubys> paulc: definitely
  239. # [18:36] <paulc> ISSUE status page: http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html
  240. # [18:36] <pimpbot> Title: Change Proposal Status (at dev.w3.org)
  241. # [18:36] <rubys> paulc: the above page links to all of the deltas and contains the status (in terms of needs verification)
  242. # [18:36] <rubys> janina: understood, thank you
  243. # [18:37] <rubys> topic: Revised draft HTML5 license survey
  244. # [18:37] <rubys> http://intertwingly.net/tmp/html5-license-poll-v2.html
  245. # [18:37] <pimpbot> Title: HTML5 license: Which license should be used for the W3C HTML5 specifications? - Preference Poll - Web-Based Straw-poll and Balloting System (at intertwingly.net)
  246. # [18:38] <paulc> Paul's announcement of V2: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Apr/0666.html
  247. # [18:38] <pimpbot> Title: Revised draft HTML5 license survey from Paul Cotton on 2011-04-27 (public-html@w3.org from April 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
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  249. # [18:38] <rubys> paulc: we added an additional question based on a request by Mozilla
  250. # [18:38] <rubys> paulc: there were additional editorial changes
  251. # [18:39] <rubys> paulc: we have several outstanding questions; in particular we have asked for another option to be added:
  252. # [18:39] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Apr/0696.html
  253. # [18:39] <pimpbot> Title: Mozilla Second Proposal for HTML5 Spec Licence from Gervase Markham on 2011-04-27 (public-html@w3.org from April 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
  254. # [18:40] <rubys> paulc: we didn't add MIT previously as nobody had specifically requested
  255. # [18:40] <rubys> paulc: we likely need a v3 license
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  257. # [18:41] <rubys> s/v3 license/v3 draft of the license survey/
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  259. # [18:41] <rubys> paulc: we want to strongly encourage everybody to participate in this survey; this is not a call for objections, it is a preference poll
  260. # [18:42] <rubys> janina: can you cc the task force?
  261. # [18:42] <rubys> paulc: I'll forward the announcement (in lieu of cross-posting)
  262. # [18:42] <rubys> topic: Other Business
  263. # [18:42] <rubys> janina: regrets for next week (PF is meeting F2F)
  264. # [18:43] <rubys> topic: Scribe for next meeting
  265. # [18:43] <rubys> paulc: I'll volunteer to scribe if nobody else does...
  266. # [18:43] <rubys> topic: Adjournment
  267. # [18:43] <Zakim> -Radhika_Roy.a
  268. # [18:43] <Zakim> -Radhika_Roy
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  271. # [18:43] <Zakim> -Sam
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  274. # [18:43] <rubys> rrsagent, publish minutes
  275. # [18:43] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/04/28-html-wg-minutes.html rubys
  276. # [18:43] <Zakim> -[Apple]
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  287. # [18:56] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11956] restrict use of role=presentation <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0700.html>
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  302. # [19:38] <Zakim> Attendees were Paul_Cotton, Radhika_Roy, Sam, eliot, [Apple], janina, krisk
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  305. # [19:56] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: try to clarify the issue here (whatwg r6035) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Apr/0113.html>
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  310. # [20:26] <pimpbot> changes: 2Dapi; hixie: sync 2dcontext with latest pub system changes (mark 2) (whatwg r6036) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Apr/0114.html>
  311. # [20:26] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11239] Canvas support accessible caret tracking independent of Focus Ring tracking <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0703.html> ** [Bug 12568] New: A diagram might be helpful. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0702.html> ** [Bug 12567] New: "return the value obtained using the following steps" doesn't specify that it refers to "determine the value of a named property
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  325. # [21:27] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Make :enabled/:disabled match <fieldset>. (whatwg r6038) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Apr/0116.html> ** hixie: Minor tweaks to make sure location.reload() works correctly with document.open()-created-documents. (whatwg r6037) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Apr/0115.html>
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  331. # [21:57] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12501] Describe the loop attribute on <marquee> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Apr/0704.html>
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