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  4. # [00:03] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 7ece8e27f3a4 r6045 / (index complete.html source):
  5. # [00:03] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) apply chair request
  6. # [00:03] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11557
  7. # [00:03] <pimpbot> 11557: contributor, P3, ASSIGNED, Authors should not be allowed to specify roles on elements that they already have by default
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  10. # [00:21] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: apply chair request (whatwg r6046) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011May/0001.html>
  11. # [00:21] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 11557] Authors should not be allowed to specify roles on elements that they already have by default" (3 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/0014.html>
  12. # [00:51] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12584] outerHTML should probably merge with adjacent text nodes if applicable. IE seems to do this to some extent, and WebKit just changed to do it: <https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=52686> This test shows behavior for outerText and outerHTML: <http://so <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/0016.html> ** [Bug 12584] New: outerHTML should probably merge with adjacent text nodes if applicable. IE seems t
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  16. # [01:18] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * d916abbdc2fb r6046 / (index complete.html source): [e] (0) clarification
  17. # [01:18] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 2588b5a62524 r6047 / (index complete.html source): [giow] (0) Say what a line break is when editing a textarea.
  18. # [01:21] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: clarification (whatwg r6047) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011May/0002.html>
  19. # [01:51] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Say what a line break is when editing a textarea. (whatwg r6048) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011May/0003.html>
  20. # [01:51] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 12585] DOMTokenList itself should have .value, even if that means that there'd be two ways to change the classList of an element with a single string." (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/0020.html> ** [Bug 12585] New: DOMTokenList itself should have .value, even if that means that there'd be two ways to change the classList of an element with a single string. <http://lists.w3.org/
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  32. # [03:18] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) Try to warn implementors about XSLT.
  33. # [03:18] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11090
  34. # [03:18] <pimpbot> 11090: hsivonen, P1, RESOLVED FIXED, Add a note about XSLT-created scripts
  35. # [03:21] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Try to warn implementors about XSLT. (whatwg r6049) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011May/0004.html>
  36. # [03:21] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 11090] Add a note about XSLT-created scripts" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/0022.html>
  37. # [03:29] <CIA-1> validator: Michael[tm] Smith <mike@w3.org> * 9c3db92994eb r620 syntax/relaxng/media.rnc: Add the mediagroup attribute. b=831
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  42. # [04:22] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12586] New: Suggest using Typed Array for ImageData pixels. Add a new 'buffer' attribute that references ArrayBuffer of the pixel data. Convert 'data' (CanvasPixelArray) to Uint8Array view of 'buffer'. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/0023.html>
  43. # [04:52] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12587] New: AT shouldn't see img@alt="" and img@role=presentation as 100% synonyms <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/0026.html> ** "[Bug 12586] Suggest using Typed Array for ImageData pixels. Add a new 'buffer' attribute that references ArrayBuffer of the pixel data. Convert 'data' (CanvasPixelArray) to Uint8Array view of 'buffer'." (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html
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  45. # [05:50] <pimpbot> planet: Jesper Kristensen: Mozilla Project Meeting Minutes: 2011-05-02 <http://blog.mozilla.com/meeting-notes/archives/545>
  46. # [06:50] <pimpbot> planet: Mike Marchak: Fridaygram <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Dcni/~3/B0_l8-1Vd7U/fridaygram_29.html> ** Mike Marchak: Chime in on #io2011 and check out After Hours <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Dcni/~3/452QKqBoJGY/chime-in-on-io2011-and-check-out-after.html>
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  48. # [08:51] <pimpbot> planet: Mike Marchak: Fridaygram <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Dcni/~3/B0_l8-1Vd7U/fridaygram_29.html> ** Mike Marchak: Chime in on #io2011 and check out After Hours <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Dcni/~3/452QKqBoJGY/chime-in-on-io2011-and-check-out-after.html> ** A Googler: Getting smoother animated web content while reducing CPU usage <http://blog.chromium.org/2011/03/getting-smoother-animated-web-content.html>
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  50. # [08:53] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12587] AT shouldn't see img@alt="" and img@role=presentation as 100% synonyms <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/0027.html>
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  54. # [09:23] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12586] Suggest using Typed Array for ImageData pixels. Add a new 'buffer' attribute that references ArrayBuffer of the pixel data. Convert 'data' (CanvasPixelArray) to Uint8Array view of 'buffer'. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/0028.html>
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  56. # [09:51] <pimpbot> planet: A Googler: Fridaygram <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Dcni/~3/B0_l8-1Vd7U/fridaygram_29.html> ** A Googler: Chime in on #io2011 and check out After Hours <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Dcni/~3/452QKqBoJGY/chime-in-on-io2011-and-check-out-after.html>
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  59. # [10:53] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12588] New: thehat your comment is descriptive enough that the editor can understand it. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/0029.html>
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  61. # [11:52] <pimpbot> planet: Remy Sharp: Get your HTML5 prescription filled at @media <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/html5doctor/~3/aBgHKZLQ6CA/>
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  63. # [13:24] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12587] AT shouldn't see img@alt="" and img@role=presentation as 100% synonyms <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/0030.html>
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  91. # [16:53] <pimpbot> planet: david.humphrey: Popcorn.js and Khan Academy <http://vocamus.net/dave/?p=1309> ** Pippa: School of Webcraft – How we’re stacking up so far. <http://learninglearning.wordpress.com/2011/05/02/school-of-webcraft-how-were-stacking-up-so-far/>
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  101. # [18:53] <pimpbot> planet: msurman: The challenge: reinvent ‘TV news’ online <http://commonspace.wordpress.com/2011/05/03/reinven-tv-news/> ** Susan Taing: Fridaygram <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Dcni/~3/B0_l8-1Vd7U/fridaygram_29.html> ** Susan Taing: Chime in on #io2011 and check out After Hours <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Dcni/~3/452QKqBoJGY/chime-in-on-io2011-and-check-out-after.html>
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  105. # [19:53] <pimpbot> planet: Tab Atkins Jr.: Finishing Out the Lists Module <http://www.xanthir.com/blog/b4Bc1> ** A Googler: Fridaygram <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Dcni/~3/B0_l8-1Vd7U/fridaygram_29.html> ** A Googler: Chime in on #io2011 and check out After Hours <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Dcni/~3/452QKqBoJGY/chime-in-on-io2011-and-check-out-after.html>
  106. # [19:55] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12590] New: @role=presentation for IMG should also require that @title is empty <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/0033.html>
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  113. # [20:56] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11239] Canvas support accessible caret tracking independent of Focus Ring tracking <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/0034.html>
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  116. # [21:26] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9593] Anchors in spec are not consistent <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/0036.html> ** "[Bug 11239] Canvas support accessible caret tracking independent of Focus Ring tracking" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/0035.html>
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  119. # [21:33] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) make ids more consistent (this might break some links, sorry)
  120. # [21:33] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=9593
  121. # [21:33] <pimpbot> 9593: jirka, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, Anchors in spec are not consistent
  122. # [21:33] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 052868473621 r6050 / (index complete.html source):
  123. # [21:33] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) add a note to clarify interaction with rfc 2388
  124. # [21:33] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12065
  125. # [21:33] <pimpbot> 12065: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, Please point out that for <input type=file multiple> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2388#section-4.2 should not be used. Instead each file should have its own field. Otherwise you break PHP.
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  128. # [21:48] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) remove <hgroup> from the w3c spec by request of steven faulkner
  129. # [21:48] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11828
  130. # [21:48] <pimpbot> 11828: webmaster, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, Drop hgroup completely until more research has been conducted
  131. # [21:48] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 29e247eef9ae r6052 / (index complete.html source):
  132. # [21:48] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) xref
  133. # [21:48] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12075
  134. # [21:48] <pimpbot> 12075: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, Step 12/17: header xref'd to #the-header-element
  135. # [21:54] <pimpbot> planet: Ali Pasha: Fridaygram <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Dcni/~3/B0_l8-1Vd7U/fridaygram_29.html> ** Ali Pasha: Chime in on #io2011 and check out After Hours <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Dcni/~3/452QKqBoJGY/chime-in-on-io2011-and-check-out-after.html>
  136. # [21:56] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: remove <hgroup> from the w3c spec by request of steven faulkner (whatwg r6052) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011May/0007.html> ** hixie: add a note to clarify interaction with rfc 2388 (whatwg r6051) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011May/0006.html> ** hixie: make ids more consistent (this might break some links, sorry) (whatwg r6050) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/publ
  137. # [21:56] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12084] application/microdata+json fragment identifiers not really defined <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/0045.html> ** [Bug 12075] Step 12/17: header xref'd to #the-header-element <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/0044.html> ** [Bug 11737] Change content model of <hgroup> to single <hx> + zero or more <sh> (sub/suphead) elements <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Pu
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  141. # [22:03] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) Update ARIA role for <summary>.
  142. # [22:03] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12053
  143. # [22:03] <pimpbot> 12053: faulkner.steve, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, The current default ARIA role for the summary element in HTML5 is nonsensical
  144. # [22:18] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 2ad45b420a1c r6054 / (index complete.html source):
  145. # [22:18] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) xref
  146. # [22:18] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12061
  147. # [22:18] <pimpbot> 12061: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, step 3 says to "set the node to the context element", but I do not see "context element" defined anywhere. Should that be the "current node" or perhaps "current table"?
  148. # [22:18] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 4ba12ac0f579 r6055 / (index complete.html source):
  149. # [22:18] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) hide the DOM Range dfns for now
  150. # [22:18] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12085
  151. # [22:18] <pimpbot> 12085: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, Please drop "The following features are defined in the DOM Range specification: [DOMRANGE]" and the following list; only Selection used those terms
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  153. # [22:26] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: hide the DOM Range dfns for now (whatwg r6056) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011May/0010.html> ** hixie: xref (whatwg r6055) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011May/0009.html> ** hixie: Update ARIA role for <summary>. (whatwg r6054) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011May/0008.html>
  154. # [22:26] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11717] [pending stable DOM Core] Element.removeAttribute() needs to lowercase its argument when used on an HTML element. (Don't add anything for removeAttributeNode.) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/0059.html> ** [Bug 12043] <video> For better compatibility with .SRT, could the FULL STOP be replaced with a COMMA? So instead of 00:00:00.000 it would be 00:00:00,000 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/
  155. # [22:33] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 6dc59e382275 r6056 / (index complete.html source):
  156. # [22:33] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) matroska doesn't define this yet, apparently
  157. # [22:33] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11837
  158. # [22:33] <pimpbot> 11837: julian.reschke, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, remove Matroska example
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  160. # [22:54] <pimpbot> planet: Scott Knaster: Fridaygram <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Dcni/~3/B0_l8-1Vd7U/fridaygram_29.html> ** Scott Knaster: Chime in on #io2011 and check out After Hours <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Dcni/~3/452QKqBoJGY/chime-in-on-io2011-and-check-out-after.html>
  161. # [22:56] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: matroska doesn't define this yet, apparently (whatwg r6057) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011May/0011.html>
  162. # [22:56] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11828] Drop hgroup completely until more research has been conducted <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/0070.html> ** [Bug 11239] Canvas support accessible caret tracking independent of Focus Ring tracking <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/0066.html> ** [Bug 11837] remove Matroska example <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/0069.html>
  163. # [23:26] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 12061] step 3 says to "set the node to the context element", but I do not see "context element" defined anywhere. Should that be the "current node" or perhaps "current table"?" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/0071.html>
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  167. # [23:54] <pimpbot> planet: Mike Marchak: Fridaygram <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Dcni/~3/B0_l8-1Vd7U/fridaygram_29.html> ** Mike Marchak: Chime in on #io2011 and check out After Hours <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/Dcni/~3/452QKqBoJGY/chime-in-on-io2011-and-check-out-after.html>
  168. # [23:56] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11239] Canvas support accessible caret tracking independent of Focus Ring tracking <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/0075.html> ** "[Bug 11828] Drop hgroup completely until more research has been conducted" (4 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/0074.html>
  169. # Session Close: Wed May 04 00:00:00 2011

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