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  8. # [00:16] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12777] New HTML5 'context' meta tag [suggestion] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/0999.html>
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  12. # [00:46] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12744] The crossdomain attribute named as such may prove an attractive talisman for copy-paste/cargocult authors, such that they start applying it on _any_ out of domain img regardless of CORS, especially when they see the no attribute string form <img crossdoma <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1011.html> ** [Bug 12734] Clarify what types of changes can be made outside the decision process <http://list
  13. # [01:04] <pimpbot> planet: Philippe Le Hégaret: HTML5: Are We There Yet? <http://www.w3.org/QA/2011/05/html5_are_we_there_yet.html>
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  16. # [01:17] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12792] New: Publish the polyglot 'Sample Page' as 'application/xhtml+xml' <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1015.html> ** [Bug 12778] add "paragraphs" pseudo selector in spec <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1014.html> ** [Bug 12791] New: 4.10.7.2.8 The maxlength attribute example <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1013.html> **
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  21. # [01:47] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12781] Allow "maxlength" attribute for number fields <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1016.html>
  22. # [02:17] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12792] Publish the polyglot 'Sample Page' as 'application/xhtml+xml' <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1018.html> ** [Bug 11526] newlines in attribute values <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1017.html>
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  29. # [03:47] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12793] New: @scheme attribute conflicts with Dublin Core encoding scheme declarations <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1020.html> ** [Bug 12725] Document should be on the Note-track <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1019.html>
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  32. # [04:17] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12794] New: [video] Add a non-normative note on how to provide text alternatives for media elements <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1021.html>
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  37. # [05:06] <pimpbot> planet: Jesse Ruderman: 2011-05-25 Trunk builds <http://www.squarefree.com/burningedge/2011/05/25/2011-05-25-trunk-builds/>
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  58. # [07:18] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12792] Publish the polyglot 'Sample Page' as 'application/xhtml+xml' <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1022.html>
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  61. # [08:48] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 12793] @scheme attribute conflicts with Dublin Core encoding scheme declarations" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1025.html> ** [Bug 12777] New HTML5 'context' meta tag [suggestion] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1023.html>
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  67. # [09:49] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 12793] @scheme attribute conflicts with Dublin Core encoding scheme declarations" (3 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1026.html>
  68. # [10:07] <pimpbot> planet: dherman: I’m worried about structured clone <http://blog.mozilla.com/dherman/2011/05/25/im-worried-about-structured-clone/>
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  74. # [10:49] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12794] [video] Add a non-normative note on how to provide text alternatives for media elements <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1027.html>
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  76. # [11:19] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12777] New HTML5 'context' meta tag [suggestion] <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1028.html>
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  78. # [11:49] <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 12777] New HTML5 'context' meta tag [suggestion]" (2 messages in thread) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1029.html>
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  82. # [12:19] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12794] [video] Add a non-normative note on how to provide text alternatives for media elements <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1030.html>
  83. # [12:49] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12744] The crossdomain attribute named as such may prove an attractive talisman for copy-paste/cargocult authors, such that they start applying it on _any_ out of domain img regardless of CORS, especially when they see the no attribute string form <img crossdoma <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1032.html> ** [Bug 12786] testing ok, fine <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/
  84. # [13:08] <pimpbot> planet: Robert Nyman: HTML5 is more than cool <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/robertnyman/~3/oNGhS7zFH7I/>
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  88. # [13:20] <pimpbot> changes: mike: flip back to ED <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011May/0183.html>
  89. # [13:50] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12792] Publish the polyglot 'Sample Page' as 'application/xhtml+xml' <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1033.html>
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  91. # [14:20] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12794] [video] Add a non-normative note on how to provide text alternatives for media elements <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1034.html>
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  94. # [15:20] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12795] New: Shouldn't it be "ruby" on step 1? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1035.html>
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  97. # [15:38] <pimpbot> planet: Erica Jostedt: Mozilla Firefox, NVIDIA and YouTube Bring 3D HTML5 Video to the Web <http://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2011/05/26/mozilla-firefox-nvidia-and-youtube-bring-3d-html5-video-to-the-web/> ** Mounir Lamouri: Mozilla Tech Tour in Dakar <http://blog.oldworld.fr/index.php?post/2011/05/Mozilla-Tech-Tour-in-Dakar>
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  102. # [15:50] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12790] Polyglot markup: WWW usecases + "alternative solutions that have been identified" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011May/1036.html>
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  107. # [16:38] <pimpbot> planet: Jack Osborne: Injecting new life into the Doctor <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/html5doctor/~3/4CT2JKhyOHQ/>
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  121. # [18:03] <mjs> morning, folks
  122. # [18:03] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
  123. # [18:03] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference
  124. # [18:03] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  125. # [18:03] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  127. # [18:03] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  128. # [18:03] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  129. # [18:03] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  130. # [18:03] <trackbot> Date: 26 May 2011
  131. # [18:03] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  132. # [18:03] <rubys> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2011AprJun/0012.html
  133. # [18:03] <pimpbot> Title: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2011-05-26 Actions, Calls, Publication, TF Reports, Decision Policy from Sam Ruby on 2011-05-25 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from April to June 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
  134. # [18:03] <Zakim> +Maciej
  135. # [18:03] <rubys> Chair: Maciej Stachowiak
  136. # [18:04] <Zakim> -Kimberly
  137. # [18:04] <Zakim> +Kimberly
  138. # [18:04] <rubys> Scribe: Sam Ruby
  139. # [18:04] <rubys> scribenick: rubys
  140. # [18:04] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  141. # [18:04] <eliot> zakim, microsoft is me
  142. # [18:04] <Zakim> +eliot; got it
  143. # [18:04] <Zakim> +Sam
  144. # [18:04] <Zakim> +[Apple]
  145. # [18:04] <hober> Zakim, Apple has me
  146. # [18:04] <Zakim> +hober; got it
  147. # [18:04] <Zakim> +Julian
  148. # [18:05] <Zakim> -Maciej
  149. # [18:06] * plh zakim, call plh-work
  150. # [18:06] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
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  152. # [18:06] <Zakim> +Plh
  153. # [18:06] <Zakim> +Maciej
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  155. # [18:06] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  156. # [18:07] <Zakim> +adrianba
  157. # [18:07] <rubys> topic: 1. ACTION items due by Thursday, May 26
  158. # [18:07] <rubys> action-193?
  159. # [18:07] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-193
  160. # [18:07] <trackbot> ACTION-193 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to and co-chairs to investigate how to handle standardization of websrt -- due 2011-05-26 -- OPEN
  161. # [18:07] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/193
  162. # [18:07] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-193: And co-chairs to investigate how to handle standardization of websrt - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  163. # [18:07] <krisk> zakim, Microsoft is krisk
  164. # [18:07] <Zakim> +krisk; got it
  165. # [18:07] <rubys> plh: we are making progress; I expect to have good news within a month
  166. # [18:08] <rubys> action-193 due in 1 month
  167. # [18:08] * trackbot attempting to change due date on ACTION-193.
  168. # [18:08] <trackbot> ACTION-193 And co-chairs to investigate how to handle standardization of websrt due date now in 1 month
  169. # [18:08] <Zakim> +dpenkler
  170. # [18:08] <rubys> action-202?
  171. # [18:08] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-202
  172. # [18:08] <trackbot> ACTION-202 -- Michael[tm] Smith to reconcile W3C pubrules with editor's request to publish polyglot document in polyglot format -- due 2011-05-26 -- OPEN
  173. # [18:08] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/202
  174. # [18:08] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-202: Reconcile W3C pubrules with editors request to publish polyglot document in polyglot format - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  175. # [18:08] * plh zakim, who is on the phone?
  176. # [18:08] * Zakim sees on the phone: Kimberly, eliot, Sam, [Apple], Julian, Plh, Maciej, krisk, adrianba, dpenkler
  177. # [18:08] * Zakim [Apple] has hober
  178. # [18:09] <rubys> mjs: is mike on the call?
  179. # [18:09] <rubys> plh: I believe this was done
  180. # [18:09] <MikeSmith> will be here
  181. # [18:09] <rubys> plh: you can close that one, it was done
  182. # [18:09] <rubys> mjs: was this authorization specific to just the polyglot document
  183. # [18:09] <rubys> plh: not specific
  184. # [18:09] <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
  185. # [18:09] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
  186. # [18:09] <Zakim> +Mike
  187. # [18:09] <rubys> mjs: it would be helpful to announce that to the group
  188. # [18:09] <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper
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  190. # [18:10] <MikeSmith> q+ to comment about polyglot
  191. # [18:10] * Zakim sees MikeSmith on the speaker queue
  192. # [18:10] <MikeSmith> ack MikeSmith
  193. # [18:10] <Zakim> MikeSmith, you wanted to comment about polyglot
  194. # [18:10] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  195. # [18:10] <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
  196. # [18:10] <rubys> plh: the one requirement would be that such document are published in polyglot format
  197. # [18:11] <Zakim> +??P15
  198. # [18:11] <janina> zakim, ??P15 is Janina
  199. # [18:11] <Zakim> +Janina; got it
  200. # [18:11] <rubys> mikesmith: the requirement to publish html5 documents in polyglot format is not something that I think will fly; I (mike) see this as a problem that needs to be resolved.
  201. # [18:11] <rubys> mjs: any other questions/comments?
  202. # [18:12] <rubys> topic: 2. New Issues This Week
  203. # [18:12] <rubys> none
  204. # [18:12] <rubys> 3. Items Closed Last Week
  205. # [18:12] <rubys> none
  206. # [18:12] <rubys> 4. Items Closing This Week
  207. # [18:12] <rubys> none
  208. # [18:12] <rubys> 5. Items Closing Next Week
  209. # [18:12] <rubys> none
  210. # [18:12] <rubys> mjs: we have a break in the queue, but we are going to be firing up the process again
  211. # [18:12] <rubys> topic: 6. New Calls this week
  212. # [18:13] <rubys> issue-30?
  213. # [18:13] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-30
  214. # [18:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-30 -- Should HTML 5 include a longdesc attribute for images -- open
  215. # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/30
  216. # [18:13] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-30: Should HTML 5 include a longdesc attribute for images - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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  218. # [18:13] <rubys> mjs: a few months ago, laura and other folks submitted a request to reopen this previously resolved issue, and they provided relevant new information and a new change proposal
  219. # [18:14] <rubys> mjs: at this state of the process, we are asking anyone who wishes to do to submit alternate or counter proposals
  220. # [18:14] <rubys> mjs: jonas has volunteered to do so; feel free to work with him or prepare your own
  221. # [18:14] <rubys> issue-133?
  222. # [18:14] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-133
  223. # [18:14] <trackbot> ISSUE-133 -- Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) -- open
  224. # [18:14] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/133
  225. # [18:14] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-133: Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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  227. # [18:14] <rubys> mjs: this involve adding a suggestion to add information to cover a pretty common pattern.
  228. # [18:15] <rubys> mjs: if anyone would like to prepare a counter proposal, either with another way to address this or to argue that this should not be addressed, now would be the time to do so
  229. # [18:15] <rubys> issue-153?
  230. # [18:15] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-153
  231. # [18:15] <trackbot> ISSUE-153 -- link type "external" either not useful or underspecified -- raised
  232. # [18:15] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/153
  233. # [18:15] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-153: link type "external" either not useful or underspecified - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  234. # [18:16] <rubys> mjs: we currently have no proposals, if we don't get one within a month, we will close this without prejudice
  235. # [18:16] <rubys> issue-154?
  236. # [18:16] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-154
  237. # [18:16] <trackbot> ISSUE-154 -- "sidebar" might not be a proper use of a link relation -- raised
  238. # [18:16] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/154
  239. # [18:16] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-154: "sidebar" might not be a proper use of a link relation - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  240. # [18:16] <rubys> mjs: again a one month deadline for a proposal
  241. # [18:16] <rubys> mjs: any questions or comments?
  242. # [18:16] <rubys> topic: 7. New Surveys this week
  243. # [18:16] <rubys> mjs: none
  244. # [18:16] <rubys> topic: 8. Decisions this week
  245. # [18:17] <rubys> Publish three Working Drafts: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011May/0300.html
  246. # [18:17] <pimpbot> Title: RE: CfC: Publish three Working Drafts from Paul Cotton on 2011-05-23 (public-html@w3.org from May 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
  247. # [18:17] <rubys> Publish 6 Last Call Working Drafts: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011May/0318.html
  248. # [18:17] <pimpbot> Title: [html-chairs] WG Decision: 6 Documents proceed to Last Call from Sam Ruby on 2011-05-24 (public-html@w3.org from May 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
  249. # [18:17] <rubys> mjs: there has been a press release. It is pretty exciting that we have gotten to this milestone; though we still have plenty to do.
  250. # [18:18] <rubys> mjs: everybody should be proud of themselves
  251. # [18:18] <rubys> mjs: any questions or comments?
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  253. # [18:18] <Jack> hi
  254. # [18:18] <rubys> topic: 9. Task Force Reports
  255. # [18:18] <Jack> ?
  256. # [18:18] <rubys> mjs: kris?
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  258. # [18:18] <rubys> kris: we met last week as planned.
  259. # [18:18] <krisk> Notes -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2011May/0003.html
  260. # [18:18] <pimpbot> Title: RE: HTML Testing Task Force Conf Call Agenda 5/17/2011 from Kris Krueger on 2011-05-26 (public-html-testsuite@w3.org from May 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
  261. # [18:19] <rubys> krisk: we have agree to move to releasing the test suite on a release schedule
  262. # [18:19] <rubys> s/agree/agreement/
  263. # [18:19] <rubys> krisk: there are some variations on how you can run the parser tests
  264. # [18:20] <rubys> krisk: there will be more information on the release schedule sent out to the list
  265. # [18:20] <rubys> mjs: are the minutes accurate?
  266. # [18:20] <rubys> krisk: yes
  267. # [18:20] <rubys> topic: accessibility test force
  268. # [18:21] <rubys> janina: our various groups continue working. We went through everything we were aware of so far in support for last call.
  269. # [18:21] <rubys> janina: we have a page on that that we will maintain to help track everything
  270. # [18:21] <janina> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Work_Topics
  271. # [18:21] <pimpbot> Title: Work Topics - HTML accessibility task force Wiki (at www.w3.org)
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  273. # [18:22] <rubys> janina: the media task force is making progress; we have proposals in work for long and short text; video, etc.
  274. # [18:22] <rubys> janina: we are looking for someone with experience in clean audio
  275. # [18:23] <rubys> janina: in this context it means audio without background distractions (doors slamming, etc)
  276. # [18:23] <rubys> janina: we've put this previously on hold
  277. # [18:24] <rubys> janina: canvas is down to a handful of issues (some of which are big)
  278. # [18:24] <rubys> janina: the text subteam does have a number of fires in the oven
  279. # [18:24] <rubys> janina: we are going to take last call as an opportunity to review our procedures
  280. # [18:25] <rubys> janina: we have a published consensus procedure that doesn't talk about subteams
  281. # [18:25] <rubys> janina: we are also organization with WCAG and with PFWG for a top to bottom review
  282. # [18:26] <rubys> janina: I think that's a fair overview
  283. # [18:26] <rubys> mjs: thank you janina
  284. # [18:26] <rubys> mjs: any questions or comments?
  285. # [18:26] <rubys> topic: 10. Other Business
  286. # [18:26] <rubys> mjs: in addition, there is a third late breaking piece of news
  287. # [18:27] <rubys> mjs: first other business item is decision updates and plans
  288. # [18:27] <rubys> mjs: I recently published an update and it has addressed a number of comments that we have received
  289. # [18:28] <rubys> mjs: at this point we are looking for comments as to whether the changes that were made were ok, and on whether there are any other things that need to be addressed
  290. # [18:28] <rubys> mjs: once we clean out the list of issues, we plan to issue a call for consensus
  291. # [18:28] <rubys> mjs: next draft will be published on monday; after that point we will project a final date
  292. # [18:28] <rubys> mjs: next item: Feedback on written comments received in the Last Call survey
  293. # [18:29] <rubys> mjs: all drafts passes, all votes were pretty strongly in favor
  294. # [18:29] <rubys> mjs: the chairs did review all of the comments entered
  295. # [18:29] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011May/0347.html
  296. # [18:29] <pimpbot> Title: Responses to Last Call survey objections from Maciej Stachowiak on 2011-05-25 (public-html@w3.org from May 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
  297. # [18:29] <rubys> mjs: in most cases, the feedback is simply to file a bug
  298. # [18:30] <rubys> mjs: if anyone wants assistance entering their feedback, the chairs will help or find a volunteer
  299. # [18:30] <rubys> mjs: another significant set of input is that some of the drafts should ultimately be published as a note
  300. # [18:31] <rubys> mjs: it is not uncommon for this decision to be made after last call; ultimately this will be a decision of the WG
  301. # [18:31] <rubys> mjs: we think that the right first step is to file a bug
  302. # [18:31] <rubys> mjs: I encourage everybody who filed a comment to look at that document, you can simply search for your name
  303. # [18:32] <mjs> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011May/0349.html
  304. # [18:32] <pimpbot> Title: Re: Final decision on Issue-131 from Sam Ruby on 2011-05-25 (public-html@w3.org from May 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
  305. # [18:32] <rubys> mjs: finally, our third other business item... issue 131 was closed
  306. # [18:32] <rubys> mjs: Rich and Sam closed the loop on the changes made
  307. # [18:32] <rubys> mjs: all of the pre-last call issues are now resolved, we now have a clean slate
  308. # [18:33] <rubys> mjs: any questions or comments?
  309. # [18:33] <Julian> q+
  310. # [18:33] * Zakim sees Julian on the speaker queue
  311. # [18:33] <rubys> ack j
  312. # [18:33] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  313. # [18:33] <rubys> julian: do we have a plan to control changes to the editor'
  314. # [18:33] <rubys> s/'/'s copy/
  315. # [18:33] <rubys> julian: I don't think that new changes should go into the draft at this point
  316. # [18:34] <rubys> mjs: we have a number of ways to address this...
  317. # [18:34] <rubys> mjs: first we have a general request to the editor to not add new features; if there are borderline items don't add it without discussing it with the working group or unless somebody else asks for it
  318. # [18:35] <rubys> mjs: the second part is the revert policy; we will continue to follow that policy
  319. # [18:35] <rubys> mjs: finally we have a number of bugs against the decision policy to make this more clear
  320. # [18:35] <rubys> mjs: sam and aryeh both have bugs entered on this topic
  321. # [18:36] <rubys> mjs: there may be changes that people object to; in such cases bring that to the attention of the list, file a bug, or make a revert request
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  323. # [18:36] <plh> q+
  324. # [18:36] * Zakim sees plh on the speaker queue
  325. # [18:36] <rubys> julian: thanks for the clarification that there is a request not to add new features
  326. # [18:36] <mjs> ack plh
  327. # [18:36] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  328. # [18:37] <rubys> plh: yes, the goal is not to add new features; we also welcome discussion on what should go into the next edition
  329. # [18:37] <rubys> plh: there is a wiki page, but no clear plan on how to proceed on that just yet
  330. # [18:37] <rubys> mjs: any other other business?
  331. # [18:38] <rubys> topic: 11. Scribe for next meeting
  332. # [18:38] <rubys> mjs: any volunteers?
  333. # [18:38] <adrianba> i will scribe next week
  334. # [18:38] <rubys> mjs: thanks Adrian!
  335. # [18:38] <rubys> topic: 12. Adjournment
  336. # [18:38] <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
  337. # [18:38] <Zakim> -Kimberly
  338. # [18:38] <Zakim> -Maciej
  339. # [18:38] <rubys> mjs: congrats again on getting all of our drafts to last call
  340. # [18:38] <Zakim> -eliot
  341. # [18:38] <Zakim> -Mike
  342. # [18:38] <Zakim> -Julian
  343. # [18:38] <Zakim> -krisk
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  345. # [18:38] <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
  346. # [18:38] <Zakim> -Janina
  347. # [18:38] <Zakim> -[Apple]
  348. # [18:38] <Zakim> -Sam
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  350. # [18:38] <rubys> rrsagent, publish minutes
  351. # [18:38] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/05/26-html-wg-minutes.html rubys
  352. # [18:38] <Zakim> -adrianba
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  354. # [18:39] <Zakim> -Plh
  355. # [18:39] <Zakim> -dpenkler
  356. # [18:39] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  357. # [18:39] <Zakim> Attendees were Kimberly, Maciej, eliot, Sam, hober, Julian, Plh, adrianba, krisk, dpenkler, Mike, Michael_Cooper, Cynthia_Shelly, Janina
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