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  1. # Session Start: Thu Aug 04 00:00:00 2011
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  3. # [00:13] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13645] New: Reference section 12.1 'text/html' of HTML5 instead of RFC 3236 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0528.html> ** [Bug 13644] New: Reference latest version of HTML5 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0526.html> ** [Bug 13643] New: Reference section 12.1 'text/html' of HTML5 instead of RFC 2854 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011
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  9. # [00:43] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13142] Typo: "even when the response do include a recognized challenge" "do" -> "does" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0541.html> ** [Bug 13176] The bounds of canvas fallback content, as rendered on the canvas, are not provided by the user agent to an assistive technology. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0540.html> ** [Bug 13181] Canvas does not allow mouse event
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  11. # [01:13] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13647] New: Treat math @alttext as equivalent to @aria-label <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0548.html> ** [Bug 12639] collection[index] = new Option() as setter is supported by all modern UA(ff, opera, webkit, IE). Holes are allowed as in JS array i.e. {select.options.length = 0; select.options[10] = new Option(); select.options.length // 11} <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/
  12. # [01:19] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 5403161e47ea r6359 / (index complete.html source):
  13. # [01:19] <CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (2) Document the setter on <select> and <select>.options
  14. # [01:19] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12639
  15. # [01:19] <pimpbot> 12639: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, collection[index] = new Option() as setter is supported by all modern UA(ff, opera, webkit, IE). Holes are allowed as in JS array i.e. {select.options.length = 0; select.options[10] = new Option(); select.options.length // 11}
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  19. # [01:38] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Document the setter on <select> and <select>.options (whatwg r6360) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0020.html>
  20. # [01:44] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13649] New: Expose SVG <title> and <desc> to AAPIs <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0552.html> ** [Bug 13649] Expose SVG <title> and <desc> to AAPIs <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0554.html> ** [Bug 13648] New: SVG should have image role <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0549.html> ** [Bug 13645] Reference section 12.1 'tex
  21. # [01:49] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 3b1857540d90 r6360 / (index complete.html source): [e] (0) forgot the domintro section for this
  22. # [02:04] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 6c266f105ceb r6361 / (index complete.html source):
  23. # [02:04] <CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (2) Make setInterval() clamp at 4ms as well.
  24. # [02:04] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12285
  25. # [02:04] <pimpbot> 12285: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, setInterval should clamp to 4ms like setTimeout does, not 10ms
  26. # [02:08] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Make setInterval() clamp at 4ms as well. (whatwg r6362) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0022.html> ** hixie: forgot the domintro section for this (whatwg r6361) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0021.html>
  27. # [02:16] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12285] setInterval should clamp to 4ms like setTimeout does, not 10ms <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0559.html> ** [Bug 12285] setInterval should clamp to 4ms like setTimeout does, not 10ms <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0558.html> ** [Bug 13651] New: Missing alt should not be considered conforming in the presence of figcaptions over 50 words in length. <htt
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  30. # [02:46] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13652] New: http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/Overview.html#the-samp-element Suggestion: add that samp shall not be used to show layman examples. samp is for computer output, not everyday examples. For instance : "Some fruits (<samp>apples, oranges</samp>) are very popula <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0562.html> ** [Bug 13586] [html5] Input attributes allow form tampering <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Pu
  31. # [03:16] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13544] Video: <track> element should allow support of more than one format without content sniffing <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0563.html>
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  33. # [03:48] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13653] New: For PRE element "In the HTML syntax, a leading newline character immediately following the pre element start tag is stripped." The same should hold true for code also, when use inside a pre (<pre><code> my code </code></pre>) If not in the spec, could you <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0565.html> ** [Bug 13651] Missing alt should not be considered conforming in the presence of figcaptions ov
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  35. # [04:19] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13656] New: add examples of use of input, button, select etc. outside of form element <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0568.html> ** [Bug 13655] New: Support for viewports and positions <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0567.html> ** [Bug 13654] New: 3.5.1 does unregistering event listeners include AT? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/201
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  38. # [04:51] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13665] New: Need to define model for focus order and how to keyboard out of frame <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0580.html> ** [Bug 13664] New: what events are fired when iframe seemless attribute is changed dynamically? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0579.html> ** [Bug 13663] New: 4.8.2 how does seemless iframe impact a11y api? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives
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  40. # [05:21] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13667] New: Title attribute is overloaded <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0584.html> ** [Bug 13666] New: Improve handling of footnotes and endnotes <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0583.html> ** [Bug 12590] @role=presentation for IMG should also require that @title is empty <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0581.html> ** [Bu
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  43. # [05:53] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13668] New: Generated content must be accessible <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0586.html> ** [Bug 13544] Video: <track> element should allow support of more than one format without content sniffing <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0585.html>
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  45. # [06:23] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13067] Password hashing <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0588.html> ** [Bug 13669] New: Indicating batch changes to the DOM <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0587.html> ** [Bug 13669] Indicating batch changes to the DOM <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0590.html> ** [Bug 13668] Generated content must be accessible <http://
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  47. # [06:55] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13669] Indicating batch changes to the DOM <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0593.html>
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  52. # [08:45] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Add an example for <wbr>. (whatwg r6363) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0023.html>
  53. # [08:49] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 061184bb0909 r6362 / (index complete.html source):
  54. # [08:49] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) Add an example for <wbr>.
  55. # [08:49] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12655
  56. # [08:49] <pimpbot> 12655: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, Suggestion: For <wbr/> tag, include an example of use of <wbr/> in "text-wrap: none" ("white-space: nowrap" or "white-space: pre") content
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  58. # [08:59] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12655] Suggestion: For <wbr/> tag, include an example of use of <wbr/> in "text-wrap: none" ("white-space: nowrap" or "white-space: pre") content <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0596.html> ** [Bug 12655] Suggestion: For <wbr/> tag, include an example of use of <wbr/> in "text-wrap: none" ("white-space: nowrap" or "white-space: pre") content <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/201
  59. # [09:04] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 0fb8b39c78f9 r6363 / (source complete.html):
  60. # [09:04] <CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (0) Remove the structed data support from Web Storage.
  61. # [09:04] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12111
  62. # [09:04] <pimpbot> 12111: mike, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, spec for Storage object getItem(key) method does not match implementation behavior
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  64. # [09:15] <pimpbot> changes: webstorage; hixie: Remove the structed data support from Web Storage. (whatwg r6364) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0024.html>
  65. # [09:30] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13203] There does not seem to be a way to cancel a drag and drop operation at a point later than when `dragenter` fires. Often it is useful to be able to cancel it when the draggable item is dropped, when you know where it is being dropped. I think it would be g <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0599.html> ** [Bug 13113] Parsing algorithm should not preclude Complex Ruby <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Pu
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  70. # [10:02] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13604] CDATA sections are no allowed except in foreign content <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0602.html>
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  73. # [10:32] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13637] Cue rendering+behavior spec text should generic, not webvtt-derived <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0606.html> ** [Bug 13625] There is no way to pass audio and video content metadata to the user agent that is required in some cases for playback. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0605.html> ** [Bug 13624] The pause-on-exit flag should lead to the paused for u
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  75. # [11:04] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13138] DOM Core: set concept-document-media-type <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0612.html> ** [Bug 13333] audio, video (and source) elements require param children or equivalent <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0609.html> ** [Bug 13649] Expose SVG <title> and <desc> to AAPIs <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0607.html> ** [
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  77. # [11:34] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13671] New: http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=6359&to=6360 - shouldn't it be "If <var title="">n</var> is greater than *zero*" ? (step 4 says "If n is zero...") <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0613.html> ** [Bug 13671] http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=6359&to=6360 - shouldn't it be "If <var title="">n</var> is greater than *zero*" ? (step 4 says "If n is zero...") <http://lists.
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  84. # [13:39] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12655] Suggestion: For <wbr/> tag, include an example of use of <wbr/> in "text-wrap: none" ("white-space: nowrap" or "white-space: pre") content <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0619.html> ** [Bug 13357] Additional AudioTrack.kind categories are needed to identify tracks where audio descriptions are premixed with main dialogue. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0618.htm
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  87. # [14:09] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13142] Typo: "even when the response do include a recognized challenge" "do" -> "does" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0621.html> ** [Bug 13647] Treat math @alttext as equivalent to @aria-label <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0622.html> ** [Bug 13608] Add <menuitem> element <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0620.html>
  88. # [14:17] <pimpbot> changes: annevk: consistify with DOM Core et al <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0026.html> ** annevk: move to Anolis <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0025.html>
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  90. # [14:41] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13669] Indicating batch changes to the DOM <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0623.html> ** [Bug 13668] Generated content must be accessible <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0626.html> ** [Bug 13665] Need to define model for focus order and how to keyboard out of frame <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0629.html> ** [Bug 13664]
  91. # [14:47] <pimpbot> changes: annevk: use Anolis for references <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0027.html>
  92. # [15:11] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11239] Canvas support accessible caret tracking independent of Focus Ring tracking <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0631.html> ** [Bug 13672] New: The casing of both 'pubdate' and 'datetime' is inconsistent with IDL. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0630.html> ** [Bug 13667] Title attribute is overloaded <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/
  93. # [15:17] <pimpbot> changes: annevk: generate xref xspec using Anolis <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0028.html>
  94. # [15:43] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13656] add examples of use of input, button, select etc. outside of form element <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0636.html> ** [Bug 13655] Support for viewports and positions <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0637.html> ** [Bug 13654] 3.5.1 does unregistering event listeners include AT? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0641.html
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  96. # [16:14] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13332] Very annoying dropdowns hide the content I want to read and I can't get rid of them <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0642.html>
  97. # [16:42] <pimpbot> planet: Bruce: HTML5: notes for analysts and journalists <http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2011/html5-notes-for-analysts-and-journalists/> ** Bruce: Hello, Adobe Edge! <http://www.brucelawson.co.uk/2011/hello-adobe-edge/> ** sheppy: Firefox 6 docs: done (for a flexible definition of “done”) <http://www.bitstampede.com/2011/08/04/firefox-6-docs-done-for-a-flexible-definition-of-done/>
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  102. # [17:16] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13602] autoassist attribute for input element <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0643.html>
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  104. # [17:37] <CIA-1> validator: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi> * 1ecab80ee121 r665 syntax/relaxng/datatype/java/src/org/whattf/datatype/MetaName.java: Refresh meta name registry.
  105. # [17:47] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11486] Remove rel=archives in favor of rel=index. They are extremely similar and not that useful to have separately. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0644.html>
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  115. # [18:07] <janina> zakim, who's on the phone?
  116. # [18:08] <Julian> Zakim doesn't seem to be here.
  117. # [18:08] <janina> There is a call today, though, yes?
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  119. # [18:09] <rubys1> trackbot, start meeting
  120. # 06[18:09] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference
  121. # [18:09] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  122. # [18:09] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  124. # [18:09] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  125. # [18:09] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  126. # [18:09] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  127. # [18:09] <trackbot> Date: 04 August 2011
  128. # [18:09] <Julian> zakim, who's on the phone?
  129. # [18:09] <Zakim> On the phone I see hober, +1.251.280.aaaa, Radhika_Roy, kimberlyblessing, ??P5
  130. # [18:10] <Julian> Zakim, +1.251.280.aaaa is me
  131. # [18:10] <Zakim> +Julian; got it
  132. # [18:10] <Zakim> +[Apple]
  133. # [18:10] <janina> zakim, ??P5 is Janina
  134. # [18:10] <Zakim> +Janina; got it
  135. # [18:10] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  136. # [18:10] <mjs> Zakim, +[Apple] is me
  137. # [18:10] <Zakim> sorry, mjs, I do not recognize a party named '+[Apple]'
  138. # [18:10] <mjs> Zakim, Apple has me
  139. # [18:10] <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft] has adrianba, krisk
  140. # [18:10] <Zakim> +mjs; got it
  141. # [18:10] <mjs> Zakim, [Apple] has me
  142. # [18:10] <Zakim> +adrianba, krisk; got it
  143. # [18:10] <Zakim> mjs was already listed in [Apple], mjs
  144. # [18:11] <mjs> rubys1: I'm scribing today, right?
  145. # [18:11] <rubys1> mjs, yes, please
  146. # [18:11] <Zakim> +Sam
  147. # [18:11] <mjs> do I need to do anything else to make the bots aware that I am scribing?
  148. # [18:11] <rubys1> scribenick: rubys
  149. # [18:12] <rubys1> oops
  150. # [18:12] <rubys1> scribenick: mjs
  151. # [18:12] <mjs> Topic: Action Items Due
  152. # [18:12] <mjs> rubys: none
  153. # [18:12] <mjs> Topic: New Issues This Week
  154. # [18:12] <mjs> rubys: none
  155. # [18:13] <mjs> Topic: Items Closed Last Week
  156. # [18:13] <mjs> ISSUE-153?
  157. # 06[18:13] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-153
  158. # [18:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-153 -- link type "external" either not useful or underspecified -- open
  159. # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/153
  160. # [18:13] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-153: link type "external" either not useful or underspecified - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  161. # [18:13] <mjs> ISSUE-154?
  162. # 06[18:13] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-154
  163. # [18:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-154 -- "sidebar" might not be a proper use of a link relation -- open
  164. # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/154
  165. # [18:13] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-154: "sidebar" might not be a proper use of a link relation - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  166. # [18:13] <mjs> rubys: ISSUE-153 and ISSUE-154 did not receive any counter-proposals
  167. # [18:13] <mjs> rubys: both proceeded to a call for consensus
  168. # [18:14] <mjs> ISSUE-166?
  169. # 06[18:14] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-166
  170. # [18:14] <trackbot> ISSUE-166 -- text/html-sandboxed does not always fail closed -- open
  171. # [18:14] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/166
  172. # [18:14] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-166: text/html-sandboxed does not always fail closed - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  173. # [18:14] <mjs> rubys: We received a proposal, have given feedback
  174. # [18:14] <adrianba> q+ to ask about ISSUE-166 change proposal
  175. # [18:14] <mjs> rubys: issued a call for counter-proposals
  176. # 06[18:14] * Zakim sees adrianba on the speaker queue
  177. # [18:14] <mjs> ack adrianba
  178. # [18:14] <Zakim> adrianba, you wanted to ask about ISSUE-166 change proposal
  179. # 06[18:14] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  180. # [18:15] <mjs> adrianba: Does the new proposal meet the requirements?
  181. # [18:15] <mjs> rubys: we will chat about it and send a response to the list
  182. # [18:15] <mjs> ISSUE-167?
  183. # 06[18:15] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-167
  184. # [18:15] <trackbot> ISSUE-167 -- Remove the crossorigin attribute and CORS normative dependency -- closed
  185. # [18:15] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/167
  186. # [18:15] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-167: Remove the crossorigin attribute and CORS normative dependency - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  187. # [18:15] <mjs> rubys: no change proposals received; closed without prejudice
  188. # [18:16] <mjs> Topic: Items Closing this Week
  189. # [18:16] <mjs> ISSUE-164?
  190. # 06[18:16] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-164
  191. # [18:16] <trackbot> ISSUE-164 -- remove or modify hgroup -- open
  192. # [18:16] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/164
  193. # [18:16] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-164: remove or modify hgroup - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  194. # [18:16] <mjs> ISSUE-168?
  195. # 06[18:16] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-168
  196. # [18:16] <trackbot> ISSUE-168 -- Remove typemustmatch -- raised
  197. # [18:16] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/168
  198. # [18:16] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-168: Remove typemustmatch - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  199. # [18:17] <mjs> rubys: Issues 164 and 168 closed recently
  200. # [18:17] <mjs> rubys: got proposals / counters; we will take the appropriate next step
  201. # [18:17] <mjs> ISSUE-133?
  202. # 06[18:17] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-133
  203. # [18:17] <trackbot> ISSUE-133 -- Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) -- open
  204. # [18:17] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/133
  205. # [18:17] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-133: Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  206. # [18:17] <mjs> rubys: on ISSUE-133 we were asked to make a 6-week extension; expires in 2 days
  207. # [18:17] <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
  208. # [18:18] <mjs> Topic: Items closing next week
  209. # [18:18] <mjs> ISSUE-165?
  210. # 06[18:18] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-165
  211. # [18:18] <trackbot> ISSUE-165 -- Drop rel=pingback -- open
  212. # [18:18] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/165
  213. # [18:18] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-165: Drop rel=pingback - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  214. # [18:18] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13140] The info box mentions the track.label attribute twice (the first should be track.kind) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0648.html> ** [Bug 13468] Support Microdata values that are HTML snippets <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0646.html> ** [Bug 13032] "allow-plugins" option for iframe sandbox attribute <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bug
  215. # [18:18] <mjs> rubys: First is issue 165, which closes on the 9th
  216. # [18:18] <mjs> ISSUE-153?
  217. # 06[18:18] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-153
  218. # [18:18] <trackbot> ISSUE-153 -- link type "external" either not useful or underspecified -- open
  219. # [18:18] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/153
  220. # [18:18] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-153: link type "external" either not useful or underspecified - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  221. # [18:18] <mjs> ISSUE-154?
  222. # 06[18:18] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-154
  223. # [18:18] <trackbot> ISSUE-154 -- "sidebar" might not be a proper use of a link relation -- open
  224. # [18:18] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/154
  225. # [18:18] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-154: "sidebar" might not be a proper use of a link relation - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  226. # [18:18] <mjs> rubys: we have calls for consensus on 153 and 154, both of which close on the 10th
  227. # [18:19] <mjs> rubys: next up is new calls this week
  228. # [18:19] <mjs> Topic: new calls this week
  229. # [18:19] <mjs> rubys: skipping 153 and 154 (just covered)
  230. # [18:20] <mjs> rubys: CfC: Adopt Decision Policy Version 2, closes on the 16th
  231. # [18:20] <rubys1> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Aug/0030.html
  232. # [18:20] <pimpbot> Title: CfC: Adopt Decision Policy Version 2 from Maciej Stachowiak on 2011-08-02 (public-html@w3.org from August 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
  233. # [18:20] <mjs> ISSUE-166?
  234. # 06[18:20] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-166
  235. # [18:20] <trackbot> ISSUE-166 -- text/html-sandboxed does not always fail closed -- open
  236. # [18:20] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/166
  237. # [18:20] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-166: text/html-sandboxed does not always fail closed - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  238. # [18:20] <mjs> rubys: on issue 166 we have a call for alternate proposals, closes on the 30th
  239. # [18:20] <mjs> Topic: new surveys this week
  240. # [18:21] <mjs> rubys: none
  241. # [18:21] <mjs> Topic: Decisions this week
  242. # [18:21] <mjs> rubys: none
  243. # [18:21] <mjs> Topic: Task Force Reports
  244. # [18:21] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2011Aug/0000.html
  245. # [18:21] <pimpbot> Title: RE: HTML Testing Task Force Conf Call Agenda 7/26/2011 from Kris Krueger on 2011-08-04 (public-html-testsuite@w3.org from August 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
  246. # [18:21] <mjs> krisk: discussion of using PHP
  247. # [18:22] <mjs> krisk: there are MIME type issues on the testing site
  248. # [18:22] <mjs> krisk: Microsoft submitted some structured clone tests
  249. # [18:22] <mjs> krisk: other stuff going on...
  250. # [18:22] <mjs> krisk: a couple of new participants
  251. # [18:22] <mjs> krisk: new person from Mozilla, jwatts
  252. # [18:22] <mjs> rubys: any questions?
  253. # [18:23] <mjs> rubys: moving on to Accessibility Task Force
  254. # [18:23] <mjs> janina: I'm confident that we have done a thorough job of looking for accessibility issues in the spec
  255. # [18:23] <mjs> janina: filed quite a few bugs; that has been our foucs
  256. # [18:23] <mjs> janina: 100 bugs filed, maybe more
  257. # [18:24] <mjs> rubys: any questions?
  258. # [18:24] <mjs> rubys: Other Business
  259. # [18:24] <rubys1> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13101
  260. # [18:24] <pimpbot> 13101: mike, P1, RESOLVED NEEDSINFO, TAG issue on HTML+RDFa and Microdata last call drafts
  261. # [18:24] <mjs> rubys: Overdue P1 bug (was overdue, now resolved)
  262. # 06[18:24] * plh late regrets from me. sorry.
  263. # [18:25] <mjs> rubys: Last Call Closure Logistics
  264. # [18:25] <mjs> rubys: Created new components to track LC bugs (bugs opened by the date)
  265. # [18:25] <mjs> ruby: will get responses to each of those bugs
  266. # [18:25] <mjs> rubys: Currently just under 500 bugs unresolved
  267. # [18:26] <mjs> Topic: Volunteers to scribe
  268. # [18:26] <mjs> rubys: any volunteers?
  269. # [18:26] <mjs> rubys: hearing none, Maciej and I will probably swap places as scribe and chair
  270. # [18:26] <mjs> Topic: Adjournment
  271. # [18:26] <mjs> rubys: we are now adjourned
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  273. # [18:26] <Zakim> -Radhika_Roy
  274. # [18:27] <Zakim> -Julian
  275. # [18:27] <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
  276. # [18:27] <Zakim> -kimberlyblessing
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  278. # [18:27] <Zakim> -Janina
  279. # [18:27] <Zakim> -Sam
  280. # [18:27] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  281. # [18:27] <Zakim> -hober
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  283. # [18:27] <rubys1> rrsagent, publish minutes
  284. # [18:27] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/08/04-html-wg-minutes.html rubys1
  285. # [18:27] <Zakim> -[Apple]
  286. # [18:27] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  287. # [18:27] <Zakim> Attendees were hober, Radhika_Roy, kimberlyblessing, Julian, Janina, mjs, adrianba, krisk, Sam, Cynthia_Shelly
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  289. # [18:34] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * dd923791df85 r6364 / (index complete.html source):
  290. # [18:34] <CIA-1> html-spec: [c] (0) typo
  291. # [18:34] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12795
  292. # [18:34] <pimpbot> 12795: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, <video> Shouldn't it be "ruby" on step 1?
  293. # [18:42] <pimpbot> planet: openmatt: Hack this Game: Portal for the Web <http://openmatt.wordpress.com/2011/08/04/hack-this-game-portal-for-the-web/>
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  310. # [18:48] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13468] Support Microdata values that are HTML snippets <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0656.html> ** [Bug 12995] PUB: Need to enable automatic cross-spec references somehow <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0655.html> ** [Bug 12795] <video> Shouldn't it be "ruby" on step 1? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0653.html> ** [Bug
  311. # [18:51] <Administrador> Tired of niggers?
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  317. # [18:53] <Administrador> Hi Gavin. Thank you for letting me publish this on Mozilla.org.
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  362. # [19:18] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13032] "allow-plugins" option for iframe sandbox attribute <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0657.html>
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  368. # [19:50] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13468] Support Microdata values that are HTML snippets <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0658.html>
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  372. # [20:21] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12267] <video> Make video state transitions happen in the same task as firing events <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0686.html> ** [Bug 12595] <video> Fire suspend event when/if entire resource is loaded <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0684.html> ** [Bug 13391] Add a ScrollElementIntoView function <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011A
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  376. # [20:43] <pimpbot> planet: Robert Nyman: Mozilla Hacks Weekly, August 4th 2011 <http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/08/mozilla-hacks-weekly-august-4th-2011/>
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  380. # [20:51] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13530] example in 4.10.1 has unneeded <p> around form elements <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0687.html>
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  386. # [22:19] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) More information for cue syntax.
  387. # [22:19] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12813
  388. # [22:19] <pimpbot> 12813: silviapfeiffer1, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, [WebVTT] explanation of cue settings aren't extracted into webvtt.html
  389. # [22:23] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12813] [WebVTT] explanation of cue settings aren't extracted into webvtt.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0690.html> ** [Bug 12813] [WebVTT] explanation of cue settings aren't extracted into webvtt.html <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0689.html> ** [Bug 13468] Support Microdata values that are HTML snippets <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-
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  391. # [22:55] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13468] Support Microdata values that are HTML snippets <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0691.html>
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  395. # [23:34] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * f8f4cb46eb8d r6366 / (index complete.html source):
  396. # [23:34] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) typo
  397. # [23:34] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12814
  398. # [23:34] <pimpbot> 12814: silviapfeiffer1, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, PUB: [WebVTT] missing BIDI reference
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  402. # [23:49] <CIA-1> html-spec: [] (0) Allow UAs to opt out of the storage mutex and corrupt data instead of being slow.
  403. # [23:49] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13020
  404. # [23:49] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 771e1b1a1554 r6368 / (source complete.html):
  405. # [23:49] <pimpbot> 13020: contributor, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, No user agent will implement the storage mutex so this passage does not reflect reality
  406. # [23:49] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) Mention CORS in text/event-stream security considerations.
  407. # [23:49] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13155
  408. # [23:49] <pimpbot> 13155: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, The security considerations section needs to be updated to take CORS into account.
  409. # [23:49] <pimpbot> changes: SSE; hixie: Mention CORS in text/event-stream security considerations. (whatwg r6369) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0031.html> ** hixie: Allow UAs to opt out of the storage mutex and corrupt data instead of being slow. (whatwg r6368) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0030.html> ** hixie: typo (whatwg r6367) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0
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  412. # [23:57] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13076] options argument for window . navigator . getUserMedia doesn't look very intuitive. Comma separated string with space.Maybe create e.x. array of objects? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0694.html> ** [Bug 12814] PUB: [WebVTT] missing BIDI reference <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/0693.html> ** [Bug 12814] PUB: [WebVTT] missing BIDI reference <http://lis
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