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  5. # [00:04] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) typo
  6. # [00:04] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12923
  7. # [00:04] <pimpbot> 12923: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, Setting a reflecting attribute of type HTMLElement to something with no ID should set content attribute to empty string
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  9. # [00:09] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: typo (whatwg r6409) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0071.html>
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  14. # [00:19] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) exposition
  15. # [00:19] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13312
  16. # [00:19] <pimpbot> 13312: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, After doing a bunch of reading, it appears to me that the crossorigin attribute was added to help WebGL on canvas. As far as I can tell, it is irrelevant when the img element is used in HTML (i.e., <img src="myPic.jpg">. If I am wrong, then could you pl
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  18. # [00:27] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12892] If I understand correctly the u element is for marking up iconic stuff like astrological signs, censored swearwords, etc.? As well as text that has lost its meaning because it is misspelt or otherwise corrupted? Please make the definition more clear, it i <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1226.html> ** [Bug 13312] After doing a bunch of reading, it appears to me that the crossorigin attribute was ad
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  23. # [00:39] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: exposition (whatwg r6410) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0072.html>
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  26. # [00:49] <CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (0) Try to tighten up the definition of how to serialise rgba() in canvas.
  27. # [00:49] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12824
  28. # [00:49] <pimpbot> 12824: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, This doesn't say how to serialize non-zero alpha values: how many digits should be used? The correct answer is the minimum number necessary so that the resulting string evaluates to the same floating-point number as you started with.
  29. # [00:58] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12922] Allow privacy exemption for caretBlinkRate <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1234.html> ** [Bug 13176] The bounds of canvas fallback content, as rendered on the canvas, are not provided by the user agent to an assistive technology. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1233.html> ** [Bug 13085] Enhancement: Set component for whole image? <http://lists.w3.org/Ar
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  31. # [01:04] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 814dbc8533cc r6411 / (index complete.html source):
  32. # [01:04] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) accuracy
  33. # [01:04] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12642
  34. # [01:04] <pimpbot> 12642: contributor, P4, RESOLVED FIXED, The description of article element should say ”page or article”, not ”page or section”, as clause 4.4.10 clearly specifies that the scope is the nearest enclosing body or article element.
  35. # [01:10] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: accuracy (whatwg r6412) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0073.html>
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  37. # [01:29] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13283] Current definition for [hidden] is not very useful for Web application developers. Every style rules in the author style sheet have to contain :not([hidden]) in their selectors to not override 'display' property for [hidden] elements. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1238.html> ** [Bug 12642] The description of article element should say ”page or article”, not ”page or section”,
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  41. # [02:00] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12781] Allow "maxlength" attribute for number fields <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1244.html> ** [Bug 12781] Allow "maxlength" attribute for number fields <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1243.html> ** [Bug 12513] add specification for <meta name="viewport" ...> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1242.html> ** [Bug 13754] N
  42. # [02:04] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 816c043d2acd r6412 / (index complete.html source):
  43. # [02:04] <CIA-1> html-spec: [c] (0) Semi-allow <input type=number maxlength> for legacy reasons.
  44. # [02:04] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12781
  45. # [02:04] <pimpbot> 12781: jrn, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, Allow "maxlength" attribute for number fields
  46. # [02:10] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Semi-allow <input type=number maxlength> for legacy reasons. (whatwg r6413) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0074.html>
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  52. # [04:05] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13755] New: <head> tag not closed <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1245.html>
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  58. # [04:36] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13261] Canvas Clipping <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1246.html>
  59. # [04:40] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Make Window's getter's return value slightly more specific (whatwg r6414) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0075.html>
  60. # [04:49] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 6b71ba6613c6 r6413 / (index complete.html source):
  61. # [04:49] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) Make Window's getter's return value slightly more specific
  62. # [04:49] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12869
  63. # [04:49] <pimpbot> 12869: cam, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, Window name getter return type should be more specific
  64. # [05:04] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 15006d748723 r6414 / (index complete.html source):
  65. # [05:04] <CIA-1> html-spec: [t] (0) Require non-CSS UAs to honour the default style sheet too.
  66. # [05:04] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11829
  67. # [05:04] <pimpbot> 11829: aharon.lists.lanin, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, parts of default stylesheet setting unicode-bidi and direction should be normative
  68. # [05:07] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12716] Porter duff names are confusing and currently not implemented consistently. Suggest using A*B + C*D formula. Where A,B,C,D can be Source, Destination, Source Alpha, DestAlpha, 0, 1, Inverse Source Alpha, Inverse Dest Alpha, and so on, similar to OpenGL/We <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1260.html> ** [Bug 11829] parts of default stylesheet setting unicode-bidi and direction should be normative <
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  70. # [05:11] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Require non-CSS UAs to honour the default style sheet too. (whatwg r6415) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0076.html>
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  73. # [05:38] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12586] Suggest using Typed Array for ImageData pixels. Add a new 'buffer' attribute that references ArrayBuffer of the pixel data. Convert 'data' (CanvasPixelArray) to Uint8Array view of 'buffer'. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1264.html>
  74. # [07:11] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13176] The bounds of canvas fallback content, as rendered on the canvas, are not provided by the user agent to an assistive technology. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1266.html> ** [Bug 13181] Canvas does not allow mouse events to be directed to keyboard accessible objects in fallback content <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1265.html>
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  76. # [07:43] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13424] Align the definitions of "editable" and "editing host" with the editing spec. I don't consider editing hosts editable, and there are probably some other differences in practice. Once you do that, I can change to reference HTML on this. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1267.html>
  77. # [08:14] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13756] New: création de site <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1269.html> ** [Bug 12705] setTransform spec silent on what to do with singular matrices <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1268.html>
  78. # [08:34] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 4f8235e55e6f r6415 / (index complete.html source):
  79. # [08:34] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) better grammar
  80. # [08:34] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13316
  81. # [08:34] <pimpbot> 13316: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, Higher document sizes - should it not be Larger document sizes?
  82. # [08:41] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: better grammar (whatwg r6416) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0077.html>
  83. # [08:45] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13316] Higher document sizes - should it not be Larger document sizes? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1274.html> ** [Bug 13316] Higher document sizes - should it not be Larger document sizes? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1273.html> ** [Bug 13442] Clarify cases that should NOT be "non-interactive presentation user agents" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Publi
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  85. # [09:16] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12781] Allow "maxlength" attribute for number fields <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1277.html> ** [Bug 13757] New: Remove the list of attributes that match their values case-insensitively and use http://dev.w3.org/csswg/selectors4/#attribute-case in the Rendering section <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1275.html> ** [Bug 13757] Remove the list of attributes that
  86. # [09:47] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11234] Invalidate documents whose text content contains improperly balanced bidi formatting characters <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1279.html> ** [Bug 13756] création de site <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1278.html>
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  91. # [10:18] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13176] The bounds of canvas fallback content, as rendered on the canvas, are not provided by the user agent to an assistive technology. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1280.html>
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  93. # [10:50] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12405] <video> There's a problem with overlaying a sign-language video and using native controls, because the overlaid video overlaps the native controls <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1282.html> ** [Bug 13176] The bounds of canvas fallback content, as rendered on the canvas, are not provided by the user agent to an assistive technology. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011A
  94. # [11:52] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12949] click() shouldn't have special powers over dispatching click event manually <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1283.html>
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  100. # [13:57] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12881] "is expected to hide it" is a bit vague. Clarify that it means display:none. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1285.html> ** [Bug 12881] "is expected to hide it" is a bit vague. Clarify that it means display:none. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1284.html>
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  109. # [15:29] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13240] Consider replacing <time> with <data> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1291.html> ** [Bug 13240] Consider replacing <time> with <data> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1290.html> ** [Bug 13240] Consider replacing <time> with <data> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1289.html> ** [Bug 13240] Consider replacing <time> wi
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  117. # [17:03] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13424] Align the definitions of "editable" and "editing host" with the editing spec. I don't consider editing hosts editable, and there are probably some other differences in practice. Once you do that, I can change to reference HTML on this. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1294.html> ** [Bug 13345] <details> should be allowed in <p> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/12
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  132. # [18:03] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
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  136. # [18:03] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  137. # [18:03] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  139. # [18:03] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  140. # [18:03] <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute
  141. # [18:03] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  142. # [18:03] <trackbot> Date: 11 August 2011
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  146. # [18:03] <Zakim> +??P5
  147. # [18:03] <janina> zakim, ??P5 is Janina
  148. # [18:03] <Zakim> +Janina; got it
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  152. # [18:04] <rubys> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2011JulSep/0011.html
  153. # [18:04] <pimpbot> Title: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2011-08-11: Issue progress, HTML.next from Maciej Stachowiak on 2011-08-10 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from July to September 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
  154. # [18:04] <rubys> scribenick: rubys
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  156. # [18:04] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13759] New: Should define page load processing model for video/audio <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1297.html> ** [Bug 13429] Section 7.5 contenteditable and designMode must make navigation consistent platform conventions <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1296.html>
  157. # [18:04] <rubys> chair: mjs
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  163. # [18:08] <rubys> topic: ACTION items due by Thursday, August 11
  164. # [18:08] <rubys> mjs: none
  165. # [18:08] <rubys> topic: New Issues This Week
  166. # [18:08] <rubys> mjs: none
  167. # [18:08] <rubys> topic: Items Closed Last Week
  168. # [18:09] <rubys> issue-164?
  169. # [18:09] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-164
  170. # [18:09] <trackbot> ISSUE-164 -- remove or modify hgroup -- open
  171. # [18:09] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/164
  172. # [18:09] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-164: remove or modify hgroup - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  173. # [18:09] <rubys> mjs: call for counters closed august 2nd
  174. # [18:09] <rubys> issue-168?
  175. # [18:09] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-168
  176. # [18:09] <trackbot> ISSUE-168 -- Remove typemustmatch -- closed
  177. # [18:09] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/168
  178. # [18:09] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-168: Remove typemustmatch - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  179. # [18:09] <rubys> mjs: call for counters closed august 2nd
  180. # [18:09] <rubys> issue-133?
  181. # [18:09] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-133
  182. # [18:09] <trackbot> ISSUE-133 -- Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) -- open
  183. # [18:09] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/133
  184. # [18:09] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-133: Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  185. # [18:09] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  186. # [18:10] <rubys> mjs: extended call for counters closed august 6
  187. # [18:10] <rubys> mjs: issue 168 received no proposals, and was closed without prejudice
  188. # [18:10] <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
  189. # [18:10] <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
  190. # [18:10] <rubys> mjs: issue-133 received a proposal, and steve indicated that he may be willing to withdraw his proposal in favor of this one
  191. # [18:10] <rubys> mjs: this likely will lead to a CfC
  192. # [18:10] <rubys> mjs: any questions?
  193. # [18:10] <rubys> topic: Items Closing This Week
  194. # [18:10] <rubys> issue-165?
  195. # [18:10] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-165
  196. # [18:10] <trackbot> ISSUE-165 -- Drop rel=pingback -- open
  197. # [18:10] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/165
  198. # [18:10] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-165: Drop rel=pingback - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  199. # [18:11] <Zakim> + +1.206.850.aaaa
  200. # [18:11] <rubys> mjs: call for counters closed august 9th
  201. # [18:11] <rubys> issue-153?
  202. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-153
  203. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-153 -- link type "external" either not useful or underspecified -- open
  204. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/153
  205. # [18:11] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-153: link type "external" either not useful or underspecified - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  206. # [18:11] <rubys> issue-154?
  207. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-154
  208. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-154 -- "sidebar" might not be a proper use of a link relation -- open
  209. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/154
  210. # [18:11] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-154: "sidebar" might not be a proper use of a link relation - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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  212. # [18:11] <rubys> mjs: both of these closed on the 10th
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  214. # [18:12] <rubys> topic: Items Closing Next Week
  215. # [18:12] <rubys> mjs: none
  216. # [18:12] <rubys> topic: New Calls this week
  217. # [18:12] <rubys> mjs: none
  218. # [18:12] <rubys> topic: New Surveys this week
  219. # [18:12] <rubys> mjs: none
  220. # [18:12] <rubys> topic: Decisions this week
  221. # [18:12] <rubys> mjs: none
  222. # [18:13] <rubys> mjs: lull due to previous issues working through the process; and new new issues being raised recently
  223. # [18:13] <rubys> topic: Other Business
  224. # [18:13] <rubys> mjs: HTML.next and rechartering
  225. # [18:13] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Aug/0263.html
  226. # [18:13] <pimpbot> Title: HTML.next and Rechartering from Maciej Stachowiak on 2011-08-10 (public-html@w3.org from August 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
  227. # [18:14] <rubys> mjs: there is considerable interest in plotting out the next release of HTML after HTM5 as HTML5 goes into maintenance mode
  228. # [18:14] <rubys> mjs: what we are soliciting is suggestions for new ideas which will go into a spec that is not in maintenance mode
  229. # [18:15] <rubys> mjs: we are interested in editors drafts of new versions of existing documents or even new documents; from existing editors or any working group member
  230. # [18:16] <rubys> mjs: doing so will require a charter update; and we are soliciting feedback on what would go into such a charter
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  232. # [18:16] <rubys> mjs: two basic approaches, one with specific scope called out, or one that is open ended.
  233. # [18:16] <rubys> mjs: any questions or comments?
  234. # [18:17] <eliot> zakim, who is on the phone?
  235. # [18:17] <Zakim> On the phone I see Janina, mjs, Sam, hober, Radhika_Roy, kimberlyblessing, Cynthia_Shelly, adrianba, +1.206.850.aaaa
  236. # [18:17] <eliot> zakim, +1.206.850.aaaa is me
  237. # [18:17] <Zakim> +eliot; got it
  238. # [18:17] <rubys> mjs: I encourage everyone to participate in the email thread
  239. # [18:17] <rubys> mjs: any other Other Business?
  240. # [18:17] <rubys> janina: two items...
  241. # [18:18] <rubys> janina: what is the status of the editor for the 2D spec? should the former editor being processing bugs against this spec?
  242. # [18:19] <rubys> mjs: the chairs privately had a discussion with the editor and got his commitment to let the decision stand on issue 133, and we are proceeding with him as the editor of that draft. He should be processing the bugs.
  243. # [18:19] <rubys> janina: so to be clear, he is still the editor of that draft
  244. # [18:20] <rubys> mjs: yes
  245. # [18:20] <rubys> janina: there is some discussion of pulling editing content from the HTML5 spec and not submitting this content to the W3C.
  246. # [18:20] <rubys> mjs: it certainly would be valuable for this to go through the process at some point
  247. # [18:21] <rubys> mjs: as far as removing significant chunks of content... if that reduced consensus, we would provide full opportunity for the WG to have input on that decision
  248. # [18:22] <rubys> cynthia: a bug was resolved as "out of scope" as it would be addressed by a spec that is not under the W3C process.
  249. # [18:22] <rubys> mjs: a link to the bug would be helpful
  250. # [18:23] <rubys> rubys: another option would simply be to mark this as an issue that you would like to have raised
  251. # [18:23] <rubys> mjs: any other topics?
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  254. # [18:23] <rubys> topic: Scribe for next meeting
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  256. # [18:24] <rubys> mjs: Sam will chair as Paul is on vacation... any volunteers for scribes?
  257. # [18:24] <rubys> ted: I will scribe
  258. # [18:24] <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
  259. # [18:24] <rubys> topic: Adjournment
  260. # [18:24] <Zakim> -hober
  261. # [18:24] <Zakim> -mjs
  262. # [18:24] <Zakim> -Janina
  263. # [18:24] <Zakim> -Sam
  264. # [18:24] <Zakim> -kimberlyblessing
  265. # [18:24] <Zakim> -eliot
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  268. # [18:24] <Zakim> -adrianba
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  270. # [18:24] <rubys> rrsagent, publish minutes
  271. # [18:24] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/08/11-html-wg-minutes.html rubys
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  274. # [18:32] <Zakim> -Radhika_Roy
  275. # [18:32] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  276. # [18:32] <Zakim> Attendees were Janina, mjs, Sam, hober, Radhika_Roy, kimberlyblessing, Cynthia_Shelly, adrianba, eliot
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  285. # [19:37] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13625] There is no way to pass audio and video content metadata to the user agent that is required in some cases for playback. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1298.html>
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  288. # [20:04] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) Attr is moving away from being a Node
  289. # [20:04] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12927
  290. # [20:04] <pimpbot> 12927: bzbarsky, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, Define what "content attribute's document" means
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  293. # [20:08] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12927] Define what "content attribute's document" means <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1300.html> ** [Bug 12927] Define what "content attribute's document" means <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1299.html>
  294. # [20:14] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Attr is moving away from being a Node (whatwg r6417) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0078.html>
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  306. # [22:12] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13429] Section 7.5 contenteditable and designMode must make navigation consistent platform conventions <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1306.html> ** [Bug 13429] Section 7.5 contenteditable and designMode must make navigation consistent platform conventions <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1305.html>
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  314. # [22:34] <CIA-1> html-spec: [] (0) Consistency with HTMLFormControlsCollection
  315. # [22:34] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12865
  316. # [22:34] <pimpbot> 12865: cam, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, HTMLFormElement getter return types should be more specific
  317. # [22:43] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13429] Section 7.5 contenteditable and designMode must make navigation consistent platform conventions <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1310.html> ** [Bug 12865] HTMLFormElement getter return types should be more specific <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1309.html> ** [Bug 12865] HTMLFormElement getter return types should be more specific <http://lists.w3.org/Ar
  318. # [22:45] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: This seems to be a common mistake, so let's call it out. (whatwg r6419) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0080.html> ** hixie: Consistency with HTMLFormControlsCollection (whatwg r6418) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0079.html>
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  321. # [22:49] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) This seems to be a common mistake, so let's call it out.
  322. # [22:49] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12141
  323. # [22:49] <pimpbot> 12141: jfoliot, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, <video> Specifically state that all <track> options be exposed to the end user
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  327. # [23:16] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13171] Status boxes overlap <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1315.html> ** [Bug 12964] <video>: Declarative linking of full-text transcripts to video and audio elements <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1314.html> ** [Bug 12141] <video> Specifically state that all <track> options be exposed to the end user <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla
  328. # [23:19] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 0719bb0ef513 r6419 / (index complete.html source):
  329. # [23:19] <CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (1) fix dir=auto for <textarea> and <input> text fields.
  330. # [23:19] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13482
  331. # [23:19] <pimpbot> 13482: aharon.lists.lanin, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, dir=auto needs to work on value of input and textarea elements
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  333. # [23:45] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: fix dir=auto for <textarea> and <input> text fields. (whatwg r6420) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0081.html>
  334. # [23:45] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12664] Warn about the perils of registering event handlers after <video> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1322.html> ** [Bug 12868] Allow placeholder for color and date+ types <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1320.html> ** [Bug 13482] dir=auto needs to work on value of input and textarea elements <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/
  335. # [23:49] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 9d4a7b7f046e r6420 / (index complete.html source):
  336. # [23:49] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) An intro section on avoiding common pitfalls with scripts. File bugs if you have ideas of other things to mention here.
  337. # [23:49] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12664
  338. # [23:49] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * a74320d07a5e r6421 / (index complete.html source):
  339. # [23:49] <pimpbot> 12664: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, Warn about the perils of registering event handlers after <video>
  340. # [23:49] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) be more positive
  341. # [23:49] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13157
  342. # [23:49] <pimpbot> 13157: tink, P4, RESOLVED FIXED, 4.5.13. Div element text change
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