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  1. # Session Start: Tue Aug 16 00:00:00 2011
  2. # Session Ident: #html-wg
  3. # [00:05] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 9f4c639075f7 r6463 / (index complete.html source):
  4. # [00:05] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) Example of <details> with CSS.
  5. # [00:05] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13615
  6. # [00:05] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * a78405efef09 r6464 / (index complete.html source):
  7. # [00:05] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) Loosen up the already loose requirements around rel=icon sizes=''.
  8. # [00:05] <pimpbot> 13615: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, We should include an example that shows that the "open" content attribute reflects the state of the details element. Most attributes don't work like this, so it's not immediately clear that you can use "details[open]" for this.
  9. # [00:05] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13107
  10. # [00:05] <pimpbot> 13107: contributor, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, What is an 'appropriate' size for an icon?
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  12. # [00:12] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Loosen up the already loose requirements around rel=icon sizes=''. (whatwg r6465) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0138.html> ** hixie: Example of <details> with CSS. (whatwg r6464) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0137.html>
  13. # [00:21] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12858] This doesn't actually define "align descendants". It says which descendants are to be aligned, but not what's supposed to happen to them. Is it like floating, or something else? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1795.html> ** [Bug 13107] What is an 'appropriate' size for an icon? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1794.html> ** [Bug 13107] What is an 'appropria
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  19. # [00:53] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13423] Remove the Editing APIs section. It's extremely incomplete and contradicts my editing spec on a lot of points, so it will confuse implementers. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1796.html>
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  25. # [01:57] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12915] Note that Arabic and Persian Unicode digits could be used through <input type=number> UI <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1797.html>
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  28. # [02:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 42b822acbbd7 r6465 / (index complete.html source):
  29. # [02:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: [] (0) This was a bit vague. Make it clearer that the key on its own is fine (as suggested by the examples).
  30. # [02:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13565
  31. # [02:50] <pimpbot> 13565: gcl-0039, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, User option to use unmodified keys as shortcuts
  32. # [03:00] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12924] xml:base interaction with img element <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1801.html> ** [Bug 13093] define which of Window's named properties are resolved before prototype properties <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1800.html> ** [Bug 13432] Editorial changes to The Video element (1 of 5) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1799
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  36. # [03:13] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: This was a bit vague. Make it clearer that the key on its own is fine (as suggested by the examples). (whatwg r6466) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0139.html>
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  40. # [03:31] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13432] Editorial changes to The Video element (1 of 5) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1804.html> ** [Bug 13432] Editorial changes to The Video element (1 of 5) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1803.html> ** [Bug 13432] Editorial changes to The Video element (1 of 5) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1802.html>
  41. # [03:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 2ac2389b2097 r6466 / (index complete.html source):
  42. # [03:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (0) Revamp how .muted, .volume, and muted='' are defined (shouldn't impact implementations)
  43. # [03:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13327
  44. # [03:35] <pimpbot> 13327: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, <video muted> should not fire a volumechange event
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  46. # [03:43] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Revamp how .muted, .volume, and muted='' are defined (shouldn't impact implementations) (whatwg r6467) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0140.html>
  47. # [04:02] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13327] <video muted> should not fire a volumechange event <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1806.html> ** [Bug 13327] <video muted> should not fire a volumechange event <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1805.html> ** [Bug 13550] type table in 4.10.7 should indicate control type changes based on list attribute <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzil
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  50. # [05:35] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13461] Commentary on Issue #30 (longdesc) from the Association of American Publishers <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1810.html>
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  53. # [06:06] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12442] I think that for the first level of article h1 {�}, the size should be left as normal. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1811.html>
  54. # [06:13] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: grammar (whatwg r6469) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0142.html> ** hixie: Fix onerror definitions. (whatwg r6468) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0141.html>
  55. # [06:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * c506e5f1f29e r6467 / (index complete.html source):
  56. # [06:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (0) Fix onerror definitions.
  57. # [06:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12774
  58. # [06:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 3e391332b5d5 r6468 / (index complete.html source):
  59. # [06:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) grammar
  60. # [06:20] <pimpbot> 12774: mike, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, onerror discrepencies
  61. # [06:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13182
  62. # [06:20] <pimpbot> 13182: contributor, P4, RESOLVED FIXED, "an determinate" + missing closing parenthesis
  63. # [06:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * bf28cee44e4f r6469 / (index complete.html source):
  64. # [06:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: [] (0) Allow UAs to fire 'error' events if they get, e.g., XML errors while reading subtitle files. Doesn't affect WebVTT files.
  65. # [06:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12283
  66. # [06:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 4636ff3d1c7c r6470 / (index complete.html source):
  67. # [06:35] <pimpbot> 12283: sean.hayes, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, <video> No indication of parsing error
  68. # [06:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) typo
  69. # [06:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12931
  70. # [06:35] <pimpbot> 12931: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, On line 7 of the updateIndicator example, the attribute should be textContent instead of textContext
  71. # [06:37] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12641] make dfn for "space characters" and "White_Space characters" visible in the non-implementor view <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1825.html> ** [Bug 12931] On line 7 of the updateIndicator example, the attribute should be textContent instead of textContext <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1824.html> ** [Bug 12931] On line 7 of the updateIndicator example, th
  72. # [06:44] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: impl (whatwg r6472) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0145.html> ** hixie: typo (whatwg r6471) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0144.html> ** hixie: Allow UAs to fire 'error' events if they get, e.g., XML errors while reading subtitle files. Doesn't affect WebVTT files. (whatwg r6470) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0143.html>
  73. # [06:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 47893d7f1c4c r6471 / (index complete.html source):
  74. # [06:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) impl
  75. # [06:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12641
  76. # [06:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 6054fbc15ddc r6472 / (index complete.html source):
  77. # [06:50] <pimpbot> 12641: mike, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, make dfn for "space characters" and "White_Space characters" visible in the non-implementor view
  78. # [06:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) Explain some of the conformance terminology better.
  79. # [06:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13536
  80. # [06:50] <pimpbot> 13536: travil, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, 2.2 Unclear: paragraph describing conformance of algorithms
  81. # [07:05] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 16e485cf1a32 r6473 / (index complete.html source):
  82. # [07:05] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) Mention <form accept>.
  83. # [07:05] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13086
  84. # [07:05] <pimpbot> 13086: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, Should list "accept" as an obsolete attribute of form
  85. # [07:08] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13304] It doesn't make sense that <h1> can be exposed as a menu item, link, or tree item <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1844.html> ** [Bug 12782] Extra quotation mark after "table": reprocess those character tokens using the rules given in the "anything else" entry in the in table" insertion mode. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1843.html> ** [Bug 12782] Extra q
  86. # [07:14] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: allow conformance checkers to catch some more nonsensical combinations (whatwg r6476) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0150.html> ** hixie: typo (whatwg r6475) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0149.html> ** hixie: Mention <form accept>. (whatwg r6474) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0148.html> ** microdata; hixie: Explain some of
  87. # [07:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 55c18a3f07e0 r6474 / (index complete.html source):
  88. # [07:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) typo
  89. # [07:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12782
  90. # [07:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 18d40432f2aa r6475 / (index complete.html source):
  91. # [07:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: [c] (0) allow conformance checkers to catch some more nonsensical combinations
  92. # [07:20] <pimpbot> 12782: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, Extra quotation mark after "table": reprocess those character tokens using the rules given in the "anything else" entry in the in table" insertion mode.
  93. # [07:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13304
  94. # [07:20] <pimpbot> 13304: ian, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, It doesn't make sense that <h1> can be exposed as a menu item, link, or tree item
  95. # [07:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 11221f0601fd r6476 / (index complete.html source):
  96. # [07:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) DOMContentLoaded wasn't in the summary.
  97. # [07:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13235
  98. # [07:35] <pimpbot> 13235: glenn, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, missing events from event enumerations
  99. # [07:40] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13235] missing events from event enumerations <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1848.html> ** [Bug 13235] missing events from event enumerations <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1847.html> ** [Bug 13304] It doesn't make sense that <h1> can be exposed as a menu item, link, or tree item <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1846.html>
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  101. # [07:45] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: DOMContentLoaded wasn't in the summary. (whatwg r6477) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0151.html>
  102. # [08:16] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12946] "first img element descendant of the element" doesn't define properly which element. First in document order? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1850.html> ** [Bug 12946] "first img element descendant of the element" doesn't define properly which element. First in document order? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1849.html>
  103. # [08:16] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: clarify 'first' (whatwg r6478) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0152.html>
  104. # [08:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * f3e5bb9f0afd r6477 / (index complete.html source):
  105. # [08:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) clarify 'first'
  106. # [08:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12946
  107. # [08:20] <pimpbot> 12946: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, "first img element descendant of the element" doesn't define properly which element. First in document order?
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  109. # [09:18] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13477] Typo in description of example <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1851.html>
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  111. # [09:49] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13348] I was wondering if it would be possible to extend the iframe sandbox attribute to provide additional functionality. We've been developing a HTML5 digital signage solution where the playback application is a HTML5 web page. When the solution is displaying <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1852.html>
  112. # [10:51] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13201] Flow content should be allowed in <dt> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1855.html> ** [Bug 12744] The crossdomain attribute named as such may prove an attractive talisman for copy-paste/cargocult authors, such that they start applying it on _any_ out of domain img regardless of CORS, especially when they see the no attribute string form <img crossdoma <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-
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  114. # [11:23] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13143] Put "designMode" in the title of this section so it's searchable from the TOC in the multipage version <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1867.html> ** [Bug 13416] Section 7.5, contenteditable attribute, should be renamed "editing host" and reworked <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1866.html> ** [Bug 13423] Remove the Editing APIs section. It's extremely incom
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  120. # [11:53] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12929] [MIMESNIFF] needs to point to the draft by the websec working group <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1872.html> ** [Bug 13758] there is no option for <progress> use in embed...! <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1870.html> ** [Bug 13709] [html5] Attribute value normalization is not backwards compatible <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzi
  121. # [12:25] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13791] New: Rename SignalingCallback interface to PeerConnectionSignalingCallback for consistency <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1877.html> ** [Bug 13790] New: Rename localStreams and remoteStreams to sendStreams and receiveStreams or similar since you may send a stream that is received from one peer to another and then it ends up in localStreams (although it's not local) <http://lists.w3.org/Archive
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  127. # [15:02] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13461] Commentary on Issue #30 (longdesc) from the Association of American Publishers <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1881.html> ** [Bug 13398] i18n-ISSUE-80: Default rules for the quotes property <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1880.html>
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  134. # [17:07] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12858] This doesn't actually define "align descendants". It says which descendants are to be aligned, but not what's supposed to happen to them. Is it like floating, or something else? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1884.html> ** [Bug 13793] New: "The the caption element" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1883.html> ** [Bug 13568] use of "accessible" to refer to p
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  138. # [17:38] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13403] window.self seems to be [Replaceable] in Gecko,WebKit. This is needed for compatability with some sites. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1887.html> ** [Bug 13144] designMode needs to persist when an iframe is navigated <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1885.html> ** [Bug 13676] Clarify what the code-point length of a string with isolated surrogate is. <ht
  139. # [18:09] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13423] Remove the Editing APIs section. It's extremely incomplete and contradicts my editing spec on a lot of points, so it will confuse implementers. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1888.html>
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