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  3. # [00:05] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 0a2b6d31027c r6492 / (index complete.html source):
  4. # [00:05] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) examples for <select required>
  5. # [00:05] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12694
  6. # [00:05] <pimpbot> 12694: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, Include an example for <select required>
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  9. # [00:14] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: examples for <select required> (whatwg r6493) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0168.html>
  10. # [00:14] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13410] XML serialisation incompletely defined. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1979.html> ** [Bug 13349] downloading resources needs to cite RFC 6266, not RFC 2183 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1978.html> ** [Bug 13349] downloading resources needs to cite RFC 6266, not RFC 2183 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1977.html>
  11. # [00:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * db57348bb009 r6493 / (index complete.html source):
  12. # [00:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) Update references for Content-Disposition from RFC2183 to RFC6266.
  13. # [00:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13349
  14. # [00:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 6d51e9def521 r6494 / (index complete.html source):
  15. # [00:20] <pimpbot> 13349: julian.reschke, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, downloading resources needs to cite RFC 6266, not RFC 2183
  16. # [00:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) update history for accuracy
  17. # [00:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13471
  18. # [00:20] <pimpbot> 13471: jirka, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, Typo: wrong year of HTML4 completion
  19. # [00:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 76d6ea804a56 r6495 / (index complete.html source):
  20. # [00:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) typo
  21. # [00:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12729
  22. # [00:20] <pimpbot> 12729: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, "When the element is created, if the attribute is absent, the details should be hidden; if the attribute is absent, the details should be shown." Second "absent" should be "present", I think.
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  27. # [00:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * ec241601172e r6496 / (index complete.html source):
  28. # [00:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) Remove wishy washy language
  29. # [00:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13538
  30. # [00:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 90544290954a r6497 / (index complete.html source):
  31. # [00:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) Clean up how we refer to UTF-16.
  32. # [00:35] <pimpbot> 13538: travil, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, 2.2.2 Conformance requirement to Media Queries too vague
  33. # [00:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13396
  34. # [00:35] <pimpbot> 13396: public-i18n-core, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, i18n-ISSUE-77: HTTP and defaulting to UTF-16LE
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  36. # [00:44] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Mention <td scope> (whatwg r6499) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0173.html> ** hixie: Clean up how we refer to UTF-16. (whatwg r6498) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0172.html> ** hixie: Remove wishy washy language (whatwg r6497) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0171.html> ** hixie: typo (whatwg r6496) <http://lists.w3.org/Ar
  37. # [00:46] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12711] There is no statement about the SCOPE attribute on TD elements. As it is allowed in HTML 4.01 Strict, I would expect some statement about it, like "replace TD by TH for header cells". (Apparently the idea is that every cell be classified as data cell or a <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1993.html> ** [Bug 12711] There is no statement about the SCOPE attribute on TD elements. As it is allowed in HT
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  39. # [00:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * f14f9ffb9686 r6498 / (index complete.html source):
  40. # [00:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) Mention <td scope>
  41. # [00:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12711
  42. # [00:50] <pimpbot> 12711: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, There is no statement about the SCOPE attribute on TD elements. As it is allowed in HTML 4.01 Strict, I would expect some statement about it, like "replace TD by TH for header cells". (Apparently the idea is that every cell be classified as data cell or a
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  45. # [01:16] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13411] The spec for setting selectionEnd seems incorrect (or at least incompatible with the symmetric selectionStart case) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1994.html>
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  47. # [01:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 9bd736198e48 r6500 / (index complete.html source): [e] (0) markup errors
  48. # [01:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * e51adbb35b8f r6499 / (index complete.html source):
  49. # [01:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) typo
  50. # [01:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13037
  51. # [01:35] <pimpbot> 13037: contributor, P4, RESOLVED FIXED, "otherwise the sandbox attribute would end prematurely" : shouldn't that read "the srcdoc attribute" (not "sandbox")?
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  53. # [01:44] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Be more precise about what counts as scaling for image map coordinates. (whatwg r6503) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0183.html> ** websocket; hixie: Update WebIDL blocks to use new syntax. (whatwg r6502) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0182.html> ** hixie: Update WebIDL blocks to use new syntax. (whatwg r6502) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-dif
  54. # [01:48] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13328] Dependencies - DOMException: should reference WebIDL#dfn-throw <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1999.html> ** [Bug 13453] Scaling of images and image maps <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1998.html> ** [Bug 13453] Scaling of images and image maps <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/1997.html> ** [Bug 13037] "otherwise th
  55. # [01:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * d47fa9ab23e3 r6501 / (index complete.html source): [e] (0) Update WebIDL blocks to use new syntax.
  56. # [01:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 52150d1b93f3 r6502 / (index complete.html source):
  57. # [01:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (2) Be more precise about what counts as scaling for image map coordinates.
  58. # [01:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13453
  59. # [01:50] <pimpbot> 13453: cooper, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, Scaling of images and image maps
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  63. # [02:05] <CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (0) Override specificity of previous line.
  64. # [02:05] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13382
  65. # [02:05] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 6a5ddecb9642 r6504 / (index complete.html source):
  66. # [02:05] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) More DOM Core refactoring
  67. # [02:05] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13387
  68. # [02:05] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 88d5b5c121fe r6505 / (index complete.html source):
  69. # [02:05] <pimpbot> 13382: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, I think this should be |bdi, bdi[dir], output, [dir=auto] { unicode-bidi: isolate; }|
  70. # [02:05] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) Make addTextTrack() actually create and return the MutableTextTrack object.
  71. # [02:05] <pimpbot> 13387: Ms2ger, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, Reference DOM Core "base URL change steps"
  72. # [02:05] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12864
  73. # [02:05] <pimpbot> 12864: cam, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, HTMLMediaElement.addTextTrack return value not specified
  74. # [02:06] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * b795088afc7a r6506 / (index complete.html source): [e] (0) optgroups don't actually get disabled themselves. they just have an attribute.
  75. # [02:14] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Add references to where these selectors are defined. Update references. (whatwg r6508) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0188.html> ** hixie: optgroups don't actually get disabled themselves. they just have an attribute. (whatwg r6507) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0187.html> ** hixie: Make addTextTrack() actually create and return the MutableTextTrack object. (whatw
  76. # [02:19] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13460] Show more use cases for details/summary elements <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2013.html> ** [Bug 12872] PeerConnection configuration argument should be serverConfiguration for consistency <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2012.html> ** [Bug 12872] PeerConnection configuration argument should be serverConfiguration for consistency <http://lists.w3.org/A
  77. # [02:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 1d248f4aaaa6 r6507 / (index complete.html source):
  78. # [02:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (1) Add references to where these selectors are defined. Update references.
  79. # [02:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13613
  80. # [02:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 6cb80ad46c01 r6508 / (index complete.html source):
  81. # [02:20] <pimpbot> 13613: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, Add normative reference to [CSSUI] and [SELECTORS].
  82. # [02:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) the term 'configuration' here is a bit vague and unsearchable, so use a clearer name
  83. # [02:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12872
  84. # [02:20] <pimpbot> 12872: cam, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, PeerConnection configuration argument should be serverConfiguration for consistency
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  100. # [04:58] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10830] i18n comment : Please add support for rb <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2016.html> ** [Bug 13814] New: Permit @alt on <area> even when there is no @href attribute <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2015.html> ** [Bug 13423] Remove the Editing APIs section. It's extremely incomplete and contradicts my editing spec on a lot of points, so it will confuse implem
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  109. # [07:36] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13816] New: The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2019.html> ** [Bug 13815] New: The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2018.html>
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  113. # [08:08] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12894] rel=tag should not be allowed on <link> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2020.html>
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  117. # [09:10] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13818] New: Default resolution of canvas 300x150 feels unnecessary requirement? Maybe 1x1 or 0x0 would make more sense, or even some more standard size like VGA or WVGA. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2021.html>
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  120. # [09:41] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13818] Default resolution of canvas 300x150 feels unnecessary requirement? Maybe 1x1 or 0x0 would make more sense, or even some more standard size like VGA or WVGA. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2022.html>
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  122. # [10:12] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10830] i18n comment : Please add support for rb <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2024.html> ** [Bug 13423] Remove the Editing APIs section. It's extremely incomplete and contradicts my editing spec on a lot of points, so it will confuse implementers. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2023.html>
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  128. # [11:14] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12595] <video> Fire suspend event when/if entire resource is loaded <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2029.html> ** [Bug 13410] XML serialisation incompletely defined. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2028.html> ** [Bug 13816] The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2025.html> ** [Bug 138
  129. # [11:45] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12596] <video> Explicitly state that preload=none fires a suspend event <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2030.html>
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  131. # [12:17] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13820] New: canvas mouse event <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2032.html> ** [Bug 13819] New: canvas mouse event <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2031.html>
  132. # [12:47] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10830] i18n comment : Please add support for rb <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2033.html> ** [Bug 13820] canvas mouse event <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2034.html> ** [Bug 13819] canvas mouse event <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2035.html> ** [Bug 13819] canvas mouse event <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/publ
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  141. # [14:23] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12596] <video> Explicitly state that preload=none fires a suspend event <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2037.html>
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  143. # [14:54] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10830] i18n comment : Please add support for rb <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2040.html> ** [Bug 13822] New: [putImageData domintro] first argument can't be null per WebIDL <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2039.html> ** [Bug 13423] Remove the Editing APIs section. It's extremely incomplete and contradicts my editing spec on a lot of points, so it will confuse im
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  145. # [15:26] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13825] New: Suggestion: http://www.w3.org/TR/microdata/ <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2044.html> ** [Bug 13824] New: If location.href is set in window.onload, firefox treats it as a redirect and removes the page from the session history. Consider specifying that. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2042.html> ** [Bug 13824] If location.href is set in window.onload,
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  147. # [15:27] <pimpbot> changes: sam: Use terminology consistently <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Aug/0189.html>
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  150. # [15:58] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13423] Remove the Editing APIs section. It's extremely incomplete and contradicts my editing spec on a lot of points, so it will confuse implementers. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2045.html>
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  155. # [16:29] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13826] New: This section should define that for the purposes of DOM Core dispatching (concept-event-dispatch), Window is the parent of Document. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2047.html> ** [Bug 13826] This section should define that for the purposes of DOM Core dispatching (concept-event-dispatch), Window is the parent of Document. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/20
  156. # [16:37] <CIA-1> validator: georgebina76@369101cc-9a96-11dd-8e58-870c635edf7a * f979c38203dd r2359 jing-trang/mod/schematron/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Start working on issue 23 - added basic support for ISO Schematron handling xsl:key and let expressions.
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  181. # [18:07] <rubys> trackbot start meeting
  182. # [18:08] <rubys> zakim, who is on the call?
  183. # [18:08] <Zakim> sorry, rubys, I don't know what conference this is
  184. # [18:08] <Zakim> On IRC I see rubys, Zakim, cjones, krisk, kimberlyblessing, J_Voracek, adrianba, karl, shepazu, mjs, MikeSmith, anne, Jedi, miketaylr, arronei, hiro, heycam|away, Dashiva, ed,
  185. # [18:08] <Zakim> ... kennyluck, gsnedders, krijnh, webben, inimino, jmb, Philip, jgraham, CIA-1, hober, gavin, RRSAgent, trackbot, Hixie, [tm], pimpbot, pingo
  186. # [18:08] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
  187. # [18:08] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference
  188. # [18:08] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  189. # [18:08] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
  190. # [18:08] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  191. # [18:08] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  192. # [18:08] <trackbot> Date: 18 August 2011
  193. # [18:08] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
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  196. # [18:08] <Zakim> +mjs
  197. # [18:09] <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
  198. # [18:09] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
  199. # [18:09] <Zakim> +Mike
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  203. # [18:10] * hober rubys: we're getting off the highway now; i should be in my office in <10 minutes. if someone else can scribe between now and then, i can cover the rest of the meeting
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  206. # [18:10] <janina> zakim, who's on the phone?
  207. # [18:10] <Zakim> On the phone I see hober, kimberlyblessing, [Microsoft], Radhika_Roy, Sam, Cynthia_Shelly, mjs, Mike, ??P40
  208. # [18:11] <janina> zakim, ??P40 is Janina
  209. # [18:11] <Zakim> +Janina; got it
  210. # [18:11] <janina> scribe: janina
  211. # [18:11] <krisk> Zakim, Microsoft is krisk
  212. # [18:11] <Zakim> +krisk; got it
  213. # [18:11] <janina> sam: Actions due Today ...
  214. # [18:11] <janina> sam: none
  215. # [18:11] <janina> sam: New issues this week ...
  216. # [18:11] <janina> sam: none
  217. # [18:11] <janina> sam: Items closed last week ...
  218. # [18:12] <janina> sam: issue-165
  219. # [18:12] <janina> issue-153
  220. # [18:12] <janina> issue-154
  221. # [18:12] <Zakim> +adrianba
  222. # [18:12] <janina> sam: Items closing this week ...
  223. # [18:13] <janina> sam: issue-165 closes 24th
  224. # [18:13] <janina> sam: Items closing next week ...
  225. # [18:13] <janina> sam: none
  226. # [18:13] <janina> sam: New calls this week ...
  227. # [18:13] <janina> sam: Issue-165
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  229. # [18:13] <janina> sam: New surveys this week
  230. # [18:14] <janina> sam: none
  231. # [18:14] <janina> sam: Decisions this week
  232. # [18:14] <janina> sam: Issue-153 Issue-154 by amicable consensus
  233. # [18:14] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  234. # [18:14] <eliot> zakim, microsoft has me
  235. # [18:14] <Zakim> +eliot; got it
  236. # [18:14] <janina> sam: Questions?
  237. # [18:14] <Zakim> -krisk
  238. # [18:14] <janina> {silence}
  239. # [18:14] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  240. # [18:14] <janina> sam: Task Force Reports
  241. # [18:15] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  242. # [18:15] <eliot> zakim, microsoft has me
  243. # [18:15] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  244. # [18:15] <Zakim> +eliot; got it
  245. # [18:16] <krisk> Zakim, Microsoft.a is krisk
  246. # [18:16] <Zakim> +krisk; got it
  247. # [18:16] <MikeSmith> janina: we have something over 100 bugs that have been tagged with the a11y keyword
  248. # [18:16] <MikeSmith> janina: and we have about 80 that have been formally tagged with the a11y-tf keyword
  249. # [18:17] <MikeSmith> janina: we have a long discussion on the a11y TF call today about the case of figcaption being an exception where an img doesn't require an alt
  250. # [18:17] <MikeSmith> janina: we are preparing CPs on some of the issues that we going to be asking for consideration, and those are getting close
  251. # [18:17] <krisk> We met as planned on August 9th
  252. # [18:17] <janina> sam: Chris re Testing
  253. # [18:17] <krisk> Meeing notes -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2011Aug/0007.html
  254. # [18:17] <pimpbot> Title: RE: HTML Testing Task Force Conf Call Agenda 8/9/2011 from Kris Krueger on 2011-08-18 (public-html-testsuite@w3.org from August 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
  255. # [18:18] <krisk> Consensus on an approved test bug http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13699
  256. # [18:18] <pimpbot> 13699: Ms2ger, P2, NEW, Update CanvasPixelArray tests for clamping
  257. # [18:18] <janina> chris: consens on bugs
  258. # [18:18] <krisk> Test Submissions from Opera and Microsoft for Microdata and Forms
  259. # [18:18] <krisk> See -> http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/submission/Microsoft/forms/
  260. # [18:18] <pimpbot> Title: Index of /html/tests/submission/Microsoft/forms (at w3c-test.org)
  261. # [18:18] <adrianba> s/Chris/Kris/
  262. # [18:18] <krisk> See -> http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/submission/Opera/microdata/
  263. # [18:18] <pimpbot> Title: Index of /html/tests/submission/Opera/microdata (at w3c-test.org)
  264. # [18:18] <krisk> Meeting Schedule has been extended till january 2012 email sent to list and wiki updated
  265. # [18:18] <janina> kris: extended meeting schedule and updated wiki
  266. # [18:18] <krisk> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2011Aug/0008.html
  267. # [18:18] <pimpbot> Title: Meeting Schedule - extended till January 2012 from Kris Krueger on 2011-08-18 (public-html-testsuite@w3.org from August 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
  268. # [18:18] <janina> sam: Other Business ...
  269. # [18:19] <janina> sam: Two overdue priority 1 bugs
  270. # [18:19] <janina> sam: 13176 and
  271. # [18:19] <janina> sam: 13181
  272. # [18:19] <janina> sam: Encouraging cp's or tracker raising
  273. # [18:20] <rubys> http://www.w3.org/community/editing/
  274. # [18:20] <pimpbot> Title: HTML Editing APIs Community Group (at www.w3.org)
  275. # [18:20] <janina> sam: HTML Editing Group
  276. # [18:20] <janina> sam: It's unclear how this external community effort will converge with W3C
  277. # [18:21] <MikeSmith> http://www.w3.org/community/editing/
  278. # [18:21] <pimpbot> Title: HTML Editing APIs Community Group (at www.w3.org)
  279. # [18:21] <janina> janina: Is it agreed to split this out?
  280. # [18:22] <janina> sam: Editor wants to, so we're waiting on results and proposals on how we move forward.
  281. # [18:22] <janina> sam: Other questions?
  282. # [18:22] <janina> sam: Any other other business?
  283. # [18:22] <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, make minutes
  284. # [18:22] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/08/18-html-wg-minutes.html MikeSmith
  285. # [18:22] <janina> sam: Scribe for next week
  286. # [18:22] <adrianba> i will scribe
  287. # [18:23] <janina> sam: Adjournment
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  296. # [18:23] <Zakim> -hober
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  298. # [18:23] <Zakim> -Mike
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  301. # [18:23] <Zakim> -Sam
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  303. # [18:23] <Zakim> -Janina
  304. # [18:23] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  305. # [18:23] <Zakim> Attendees were hober, kimberlyblessing, Radhika_Roy, Sam, Cynthia_Shelly, mjs, Mike, Janina, krisk, adrianba, eliot
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  314. # [20:07] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13538] 2.2.2 Conformance requirement to Media Queries too vague <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2050.html>
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  334. # [23:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * f57b92ecbb13 r6509 / (index complete.html source):
  335. # [23:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) Explain the appcache API more.
  336. # [23:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12967
  337. # [23:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 1c8cec9ca39a r6510 / (index complete.html source):
  338. # [23:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) add a note about accessibility
  339. # [23:50] <pimpbot> 12967: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, I feel this part is not clear enough. When should the developers call update()? Should they call update() before swapCache()? Must swapCache() be called before reload? I've tried that even without calling swapCache(), once manifest changed, the file will
  340. # [23:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13200
  341. # [23:50] <pimpbot> 13200: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, Please add a warning about removing the outline for focussed links, because it can cause accessibility problems.
  342. # [23:55] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13200] Please add a warning about removing the outline for focussed links, because it can cause accessibility problems. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2054.html> ** [Bug 13200] Please add a warning about removing the outline for focussed links, because it can cause accessibility problems. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2053.html> ** [Bug 12967] I feel this part
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