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  1. # Session Start: Thu Aug 25 00:00:00 2011
  2. # Session Ident: #html-wg
  3. # [00:04] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13128] Allow wrapping list items in DIV elements <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2299.html> ** [Bug 13128] Allow wrapping list items in DIV elements <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2298.html> ** [Bug 13062] HTML spec should not dictate first/last child nesting level and exact order of child siblings <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/201
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  12. # [00:36] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13118] [editing] Consider firing the 'input' event for contenteditable="" areas as well <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2306.html> ** [Bug 13416] [editing] Rename or restructure the contenteditable="" section so that the relevance of designMode is also apparent in the table of contents <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2302.html> ** [Bug 13424] [editing] Align the
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  16. # [01:06] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12792] Publish the polyglot 'Sample Page' as 'application/xhtml+xml' <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2311.html> ** [Bug 12792] Publish the polyglot 'Sample Page' as 'application/xhtml+xml' <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2310.html>
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  22. # [01:38] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13895] New: To clarify -- on getting, does the setter preprocessor still need to be run? I.e. if the input is "http://example.org:99999", should port be 0, 65535, or 99999? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2313.html> ** [Bug 13894] New: window.open() doesn't check for trusted events the way HTMLAnchorElement.click() does. We should probably move the check into the "rules for choosing a browsing context" a
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  25. # [01:52] <pimpbot> planet: Chris Pearce: New media element APIs and better media seeking resolution <http://blog.pearce.org.nz/2011/08/new-media-element-apis-and-better-media.html>
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  30. # [02:40] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12792] Publish the polyglot 'Sample Page' as both 'application/xhtml+xml' and as 'text/html' <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2314.html>
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  42. # [05:50] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13896] New: [editing] Drop UndoManager section and point to http://rniwa.com/editing/undomanager.html instead for now (will merge back in eventually assuming it gets browser implementations) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2317.html> ** [Bug 13482] dir=auto needs to work on value of input and textarea elements <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2316.html> ** [Bug 13
  43. # [05:53] <pimpbot> planet: Jesper Kristensen: Mobile Meeting Minutes: 2011-08-24 <http://blog.mozilla.com/meeting-notes/archives/636>
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  50. # [06:52] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13433] Using "Function?" for the on* IDL attribute type doesn't seem to match implementations on setting <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2318.html>
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  58. # [12:13] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13898] New: Make things simpler. Too many complicated API. like JavaScript(it is reall shit not a langueg or Script). Web programming is like jongel and not very productive. Thanks <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2319.html>
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  64. # [12:55] <pimpbot> planet: Robert Nyman: Mozilla Hacks Weekly, August 25th 2011 <http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/08/mozilla-hacks-weekly-august-25th-2011/>
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  68. # [13:55] <pimpbot> planet: Chris Heilmann: People of HTML5 – John Allsopp <http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/08/people-of-html5-john-allsopp/>
  69. # [14:21] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13899] New: Incorrect value for action and formaction <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2320.html> ** [Bug 13899] Incorrect value for action and formaction <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2321.html>
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  85. # [16:30] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13900] New: Please mention how to handle (or ignore?) non-standard "charset" parameter <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2322.html> ** [Bug 13871] <video> behavior when setting currentTime to current playback position <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2323.html>
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  87. # [17:04] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13901] New: 4.13.5 Footnotes Your recommendation for longer annotations is a bit clumsy when it comes to styling footnotes with multiple paragraphs. Would something like this be better? <section> <a id="fn1" href="#r1">[1]</a><p>This is, naturally, a lie.</p> <p>Pa <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2325.html> ** [Bug 13898] Make things simpler. Too many complicated API. like JavaScript(it is reall shit not
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  92. # [17:36] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13902] New: Have more details about the format of accessKeyLabel, like by giving examples. We don't want one browser to format it like "Alt+L" and another "alt-l". <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2329.html> ** [Bug 13068] for consistency with RFC 5988, link/@rel should allow extension relation types <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2327.html> ** [Bug 13767] Invali
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  101. # [18:06] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
  102. # [18:06] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference
  103. # [18:06] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  104. # [18:06] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  107. # [18:06] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  108. # [18:06] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  109. # [18:06] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  110. # [18:06] <trackbot> Date: 25 August 2011
  111. # [18:06] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  112. # [18:07] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  113. # [18:07] <eliot> zakim, microsoft is me
  114. # [18:07] <Zakim> +eliot; got it
  115. # [18:07] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13903] New: leftover text about "sidebar hyperlinks" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2330.html>
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  117. # [18:07] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  118. # [18:07] <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft] is me
  119. # [18:07] <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
  120. # [18:07] <Zakim> +mjs
  121. # [18:08] <rubys> http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/html-wg/20110818#l-286
  122. # [18:08] <pimpbot> Title: IRC logs: w3c / #html-wg / 20110818 (at krijnhoetmer.nl)
  123. # [18:08] <adrianba> ScribeNick: adrianba
  124. # [18:08] <adrianba> Scribe: Adrian Bateman
  125. # [18:08] <adrianba> Chair: Maciej Stachowiak
  126. # [18:08] <adrianba> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2011JulSep/0013.html
  127. # [18:08] <pimpbot> Title: {agenda} HTML WG telcon 2010-08-24: from Maciej Stachowiak on 2011-08-25 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from July to September 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
  128. # [18:08] <Zakim> +dsinger
  129. # [18:08] * dsinger zakim, mute dsinger
  130. # [18:08] * Zakim dsinger should now be muted
  131. # [18:08] * dsinger zakim, who is here?
  132. # [18:08] * Zakim sees on the phone: kimberlyblessing, Sam, eliot, adrianba, mjs, dsinger (muted)
  133. # [18:08] * Zakim sees on irc: dsinger, Norm, Zakim, Julian, eliot, adrianba, rubys, J_Voracek, plh, miketaylr, shepazu, davidb, Lachy, myakura, karl, Martijnc, MikeSmith, ed, mjs, nonge__,
  134. # [18:08] * Zakim ... arronei_, krijnh, Dashiva, gavin, heycam|away, Jedi, johndrinkwater, hiro, gsnedders, webben, inimino, jmb, Philip, jgraham, CIA-1, hober, RRSAgent, trackbot, Hixie, [tm],
  135. # [18:09] * Zakim ... pimpbot
  136. # [18:09] <adrianba> TOPIC: ACTION items due by Thursday, August 25
  137. # [18:09] <adrianba> mjs: there are none
  138. # [18:09] <adrianba> TOPIC: New Issues This Week
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  141. # [18:09] <adrianba> mjs: also none, there is one tracker request
  142. # [18:09] <Zakim> + +25186aaaa
  143. # [18:10] <mjs> http://w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML+WG&keywords=TrackerRequest
  144. # [18:10] <pimpbot> Title: Bug List (at w3.org)
  145. # [18:10] <adrianba> ...because of the confused history of this bug we've got in touch to the people that reopened/asked for tracker
  146. # [18:10] <adrianba> ...we're going to double-check with them about how to proceed - we also need title/description, etc.
  147. # [18:10] <Julian> Zakim, +25186aaaa is me
  148. # [18:10] <Zakim> +Julian; got it
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  150. # [18:10] <adrianba> ...seems like it will eventually end up in tracker
  151. # [18:10] <adrianba> TOPIC: Items Closed Last Week
  152. # [18:10] <adrianba> ISSUE-165?
  153. # [18:10] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-165
  154. # [18:10] <trackbot> ISSUE-165 -- Drop rel=pingback -- open
  155. # [18:10] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/165
  156. # [18:10] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-165: Drop rel=pingback - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  157. # [18:10] <adrianba> mjs: call for consensus closed on aug 24
  158. # [18:11] <adrianba> ...this showed us as last week and this week - this week probably more accurate
  159. # [18:11] <adrianba> ...anyway, it closed yesterday - any questions on this?
  160. # [18:11] <adrianba> ...moving on
  161. # [18:11] <adrianba> TOPIC: Items Closing This Week
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  163. # [18:12] <adrianba> mjs: already discussed ISSUE-165
  164. # [18:12] <adrianba> TOPIC: Items Closing Next Week
  165. # [18:12] <adrianba> mjs: there is one
  166. # [18:12] <adrianba> ISSUE-166?
  167. # [18:12] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-166
  168. # [18:12] <trackbot> ISSUE-166 -- text/html-sandboxed does not always fail closed -- open
  169. # [18:12] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/166
  170. # [18:12] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-166: text/html-sandboxed does not always fail closed - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  171. # [18:12] <Zakim> +??P1
  172. # [18:12] <adrianba> mjs: call for counter proposals closes aug 31
  173. # [18:12] <adrianba> ...does anyone have any questions or comments on issue-166
  174. # [18:12] <adrianba> TOPIC: New Calls this week
  175. # [18:12] <janina> zakim, ??P1 is Janina
  176. # [18:12] <Zakim> +Janina; got it
  177. # [18:12] <adrianba> mjs: there are none
  178. # [18:12] <adrianba> TOPIC: New Surveys this week
  179. # [18:13] <adrianba> mjs: there are also none
  180. # [18:13] <adrianba> TOPIC: Decisions this week
  181. # [18:13] <adrianba> mjs: there is one - v2 of the decision policy was adopted by the WG
  182. # [18:13] <mjs> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Aug/0385.html
  183. # [18:13] <pimpbot> Title: Re: CfC: Adopt Decision Policy Version 2 from Maciej Stachowiak on 2011-08-24 (public-html@w3.org from August 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
  184. # [18:13] <adrianba> ...cfc closed a little while ago but we adopted this this week
  185. # [18:14] <adrianba> ...that will shortly be put in place of the older draft and we'll continue processing bugs for a v3 to come later but this comes with new policies based on requests from the WG
  186. # [18:14] <adrianba> ...will be good to have this official
  187. # [18:14] <adrianba> ...any questions or comments on this?
  188. # [18:14] <adrianba> TOPIC: Other Business
  189. # [18:14] <adrianba> mjs: does anyone have any other topics they wish to raise today?
  190. # [18:14] <adrianba> mjs: not hearing any
  191. # [18:15] <adrianba> TOPIC: Scribe for next meeting
  192. # [18:15] <adrianba> mjs: any volunteers?
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  194. # [18:15] <adrianba> looks like i got off lightly this week - i can go again
  195. # [18:15] <adrianba> janina: regrets for next week
  196. # [18:16] <adrianba> mjs: adrian will volunteer for next week
  197. # [18:16] <adrianba> TOPIC: Adjournment
  198. # [18:16] <Zakim> -Julian
  199. # [18:16] <adrianba> mjs: this meeting is now over - i'll be away next week
  200. # [18:16] <adrianba> ...back in two weeks
  201. # [18:16] <Zakim> -mjs
  202. # [18:16] <Zakim> -dsinger
  203. # [18:16] <Zakim> -kimberlyblessing
  204. # [18:16] <eliot> bye
  205. # [18:16] <Zakim> -Janina
  206. # [18:16] <Zakim> -eliot
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  208. # [18:16] <Zakim> -adrianba
  209. # [18:16] <adrianba> zakim, bye
  210. # [18:16] <Zakim> leaving. As of this point the attendees were kimberlyblessing, Sam, eliot, adrianba, mjs, dsinger, Julian, Janina
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  214. # [18:16] <adrianba> rrsagent, make minutes
  215. # [18:16] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/08/25-html-wg-minutes.html adrianba
  216. # [18:17] <adrianba> rrsagent, make logs public
  217. # [18:17] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, adrianba
  218. # [18:18] <adrianba> s/looks like/adrianba: looks like/
  219. # [18:18] <adrianba> rrsagent, make minutes
  220. # [18:18] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/08/25-html-wg-minutes.html adrianba
  221. # [18:18] <pimpbot> Title: HTML Weekly Teleconference -- 25 Aug 2011 (at www.w3.org)
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  228. # [18:38] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13904] New: "web+" URI scheme prefix <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2332.html> ** [Bug 13871] <video> behavior when setting currentTime to current playback position <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2331.html>
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  232. # [19:42] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13902] Have more details about the format of accessKeyLabel, like by giving examples. We don't want one browser to format it like "Alt+L" and another "alt-l". <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Aug/2333.html>
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  258. # [23:58] <pimpbot> planet: Jay Patel: Congrats to our July Dev Derby winners on their amazing HTML5 video demos! <http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/08/congrats-to-our-july-dev-derby-winners-on-their-amazing-html5-video-demos/> ** Jay Patel: People of HTML5 – John Allsopp <http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/08/people-of-html5-john-allsopp/> ** Jay Patel: Introducing WebAPI <http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/08/introducing-webapi/>
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