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  4. # [00:07] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14255] New: Text Track constant OFF not consistent with mode description <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0810.html>
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  6. # [00:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 2e2e7892aec2 r6561 / (complete.html index source):
  7. # [00:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (2) When a media element ends, pause it. Same for MediaControllers. Also a bunch of minor editorial tweaks.
  8. # [00:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12559
  9. # [00:35] <pimpbot> 12559: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, <video> Make paused true at playback end
  10. # [00:38] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12667] Setting doc.title in an SVG document doesn't (necessarily) throw <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0814.html> ** [Bug 12667] Setting doc.title in an SVG document doesn't (necessarily) throw <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0813.html> ** [Bug 12559] <video> Make paused true at playback end <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/08
  11. # [00:46] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: accuracy (whatwg r6563) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Sep/0041.html> ** hixie: When a media element ends, pause it. Same for MediaControllers. Also a bunch of minor editorial tweaks. (whatwg r6562) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Sep/0040.html>
  12. # [00:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 4eabcbf1736d r6562 / (complete.html index source):
  13. # [00:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) accuracy
  14. # [00:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12667
  15. # [00:50] <pimpbot> 12667: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, Setting doc.title in an SVG document doesn't (necessarily) throw
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  18. # [01:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 89984537cb04 r6563 / (complete.html index source):
  19. # [01:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (1) Make popstate not fire onload and not fire when you go back and forth
  20. # [01:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: across documents without changing which was the last active state for that
  21. # [01:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: document. This is intended to match Firefox. It's also much more sensible than
  22. # [01:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: what we had before.
  23. # [01:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12707
  24. # [01:35] <pimpbot> 12707: jonas, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, pushState() / popstate API still not fully updated to match Firefox implementation
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  26. # [01:40] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12707] pushState() / popstate API still not fully updated to match Firefox implementation <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0817.html> ** [Bug 12707] pushState() / popstate API still not fully updated to match Firefox implementation <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0816.html> ** [Bug 14222] "render the text field with a useful width" doesn't describe the behavior of
  27. # [01:46] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: add detail (whatwg r6566) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Sep/0044.html> ** hixie: Make size and maxlength conforming on type=number for now. (fixing r6413 better) (whatwg r6565) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Sep/0043.html> ** hixie: Make popstate not fire onload and not fire when you go back and forth across documents without changing which was the last active state for t
  28. # [01:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 5883152c6277 r6564 / (complete.html index source):
  29. # [01:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: [c] (0) Make size and maxlength conforming on type=number for now. (fixing r6413 better)
  30. # [01:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12781
  31. # [01:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 021eb299db03 r6565 / (complete.html index source):
  32. # [01:50] <pimpbot> 12781: jrn, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, Allow "maxlength" attribute for number fields
  33. # [01:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) add detail
  34. # [01:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12858
  35. # [01:50] <pimpbot> 12858: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, This doesn't actually define "align descendants". It says which descendants are to be aligned, but not what's supposed to happen to them. Is it like floating, or something else?
  36. # [01:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 03ffb18a4799 r6566 / (complete.html index source):
  37. # [01:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (2) Better define 'hide' in the rendering section.
  38. # [01:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12881
  39. # [01:50] <pimpbot> 12881: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, "is expected to hide it" is a bit vague. Clarify that it means display:none.
  40. # [02:05] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * fdba26a1bcf4 r6567 / (complete.html index source):
  41. # [02:05] <CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (1) Make HTMLElement-type reflecting IDL attributes only set the attribute if the element they're being set to would then match the attribute.
  42. # [02:05] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12945
  43. # [02:05] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * d5d72a816bb1 r6568 / (complete.html index source):
  44. # [02:05] <pimpbot> 12945: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, "On setting, if the given element has an id attribute, then the content attribute must be set to the value of that id attribute. Otherwise, the IDL attribute must be set to the empty string." is strange and breaks reflection. If the given element isn't in
  45. # [02:05] <CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (2) Mark some Window properties [Unforgeable].
  46. # [02:05] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=12998
  47. # [02:05] <pimpbot> 12998: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, Some attributes are not overridable with 'var' in browsers. See http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/saved/1035
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  50. # [02:11] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12998] Some attributes are not overridable with 'var' in browsers. See http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/saved/1035 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0831.html> ** [Bug 12998] Some attributes are not overridable with 'var' in browsers. See http://software.hixie.ch/utilities/js/live-dom-viewer/saved/1035 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0830.html>
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  52. # [02:16] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Mark some Window properties [Unforgeable]. (whatwg r6569) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Sep/0047.html> ** hixie: Make HTMLElement-type reflecting IDL attributes only set the attribute if the element they're being set to would then match the attribute. (whatwg r6568) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Sep/0046.html> ** hixie: Better define 'hide' in the rendering section. (wha
  53. # [02:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 71995b0b9332 r6569 / (complete.html index source):
  54. # [02:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) Provide advice to authors regarding styling editing regions
  55. # [02:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13011
  56. # [02:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 2871f566f2fd r6570 / (complete.html index source):
  57. # [02:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) Ref update
  58. # [02:35] <pimpbot> 13011: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, [editing] Encourage authors to use "white-space: pre-wrap" for contenteditable="" and .designMode=true
  59. # [02:35] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13111
  60. # [02:35] <pimpbot> 13111: mike, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, Find working reference for ISO-8859-11
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  62. # [02:42] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13144] designMode needs to persist when an iframe is navigated <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0836.html> ** [Bug 13111] Find working reference for ISO-8859-11 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0835.html> ** [Bug 13111] Find working reference for ISO-8859-11 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0834.html> ** [Bug 13011] [editing
  63. # [02:46] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Ref update (whatwg r6571) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Sep/0049.html> ** hixie: Provide advice to authors regarding styling editing regions (whatwg r6570) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Sep/0048.html>
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  79. # [05:47] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14109] Stop and start media buffering <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0837.html>
  80. # [05:53] <pimpbot> planet: Planet Opera: Opera Developer Network: Presentation: HTML5 and Accessibility sitting in a tree <http://my.opera.com/ODIN/blog/show.dml/35577772>
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  91. # [09:59] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10830] i18n comment : Please add support for rb <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0839.html> ** [Bug 14256] New: It's a blog with full of latest and spectecular informations - This blog has helped me to gain much more information I would like to appreciate the blog owner for his efforts <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0838.html>
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  93. # [10:30] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12667] Setting doc.title in an SVG document doesn't (necessarily) throw <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0840.html>
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  103. # [12:55] <pimpbot> planet: Steve Faulkner: Google Chrome Frame – still an accessibility black hole? <http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/2011/09/google-chrome-frame-still-an-accessibility-black-hole/>
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  108. # [13:37] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14258] New: HTML4.01 says that presence of <col> child elements overrides value of span attribute. Your content model doesn't take this priority into account. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0843.html> ** [Bug 14257] New: IDL interface: shouln't it say "HTMLTableColgroupElement" ? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0842.html>
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  118. # [14:56] <pimpbot> planet: pedrosimonetti: Firebug Lite 1.4 <http://blog.getfirebug.com/2011/09/23/firebug-lite-1-4/>
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  123. # [15:42] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14260] New: <track> "text tracks ready" and HTMLMediaElement.readyState <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0846.html> ** [Bug 14259] New: Drop Timestamp Objects on the floor instead of exposing as PIs <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0845.html> ** [Bug 14259] <track> Drop Timestamp Objects on the floor instead of exposing as PIs <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Publi
  124. # [16:12] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14263] New: <track> Don't use <q> for voice object <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0850.html> ** [Bug 14263] <track> Don't use <q> for voice object <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0852.html> ** [Bug 14262] New: YOU'RE A PORC <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0849.html> ** [Bug 14261] New: I'M A PORC <http://lists.w3.org/
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  141. # [20:21] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13011] [editing] Encourage authors to use "white-space: pre-wrap" for contenteditable="" and .designMode=true <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0861.html> ** [Bug 12858] This doesn't actually define "align descendants". It says which descendants are to be aligned, but not what's supposed to happen to them. Is it like floating, or something else? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/
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  151. # [21:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 660d394e6ecc r6571 / (complete.html index source):
  152. # [21:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (2) Explicitly mention when to render drag-cancel feedback.
  153. # [21:20] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13203
  154. # [21:20] <pimpbot> 13203: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, Drag-and-drop model should clearly state when and whether a drag is canceled, for Mac-like and X-like drag-cancel effects
  155. # [21:21] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Explicitly mention when to render drag-cancel feedback. (whatwg r6572) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Sep/0050.html>
  156. # [21:23] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13203] Drag-and-drop model should clearly state when and whether a drag is canceled, for Mac-like and X-like drag-cancel effects <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0865.html> ** [Bug 13203] Drag-and-drop model should clearly state when and whether a drag is canceled, for Mac-like and X-like drag-cancel effects <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0864.html> ** [Bug 13144
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  159. # [21:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (0) Define how sandboxing works with plugins in a hypothetical world where plugins honour the sandbox.
  160. # [21:50] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13267
  161. # [21:50] <pimpbot> 13267: julian.reschke, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, sandboxing implication for plugins should be rephrased
  162. # [21:51] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Define how sandboxing works with plugins in a hypothetical world where plugins honour the sandbox. (whatwg r6573) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Sep/0051.html>
  163. # [21:53] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13291] it doesn't make sense for <button> to be exposed as a link or radio button; it would just confuse users told to "click the button" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0870.html> ** [Bug 13354] Willful violation of HTTP <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0869.html> ** [Bug 13267] sandboxing implication for plugins should be rephrased <http://lists.w3.org/Archiv
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  168. # [22:06] <CIA-1> html-spec: [ac] (1) tweak authoring conformance requirements to prevent some meaningless combinations
  169. # [22:06] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13291
  170. # [22:06] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 70ad1e988abe r6574 / (complete.html index source):
  171. # [22:06] <pimpbot> 13291: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, it doesn't make sense for <button> to be exposed as a link or radio button; it would just confuse users told to "click the button"
  172. # [22:06] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) Comment out a 'willful violation' that is being fixed in the underlying specs.
  173. # [22:06] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13354
  174. # [22:06] <pimpbot> 13354: mnot, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, Willful violation of HTTP
  175. # [22:06] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 73adc5976f5e r6575 / (complete.html index source):
  176. # [22:06] <CIA-1> html-spec: [giow] (2) Compatibility with Gecko/Webkit and apparently some legacy sites.
  177. # [22:06] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13403
  178. # [22:06] <pimpbot> 13403: contributor, P3, RESOLVED FIXED, window.self seems to be [Replaceable] in Gecko,WebKit. This is needed for compatability with some sites.
  179. # [22:06] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * d9b51fbef60b r6576 / (complete.html index source):
  180. # [22:06] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) Try to fix potentially confusing terminology.
  181. # [22:06] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13438
  182. # [22:06] <pimpbot> 13438: jfoliot, P2, RESOLVED FIXED, "Display over the video" is ambiguous as to whether that relates to the y-axis or the z-axis
  183. # [22:06] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * 3533f4c9cd10 r6577 / (complete.html index source):
  184. # [22:06] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) typo
  185. # [22:06] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13798
  186. # [22:06] <pimpbot> 13798: ehsan, P2, NEW, Misspelling in the notes added in bug 12915
  187. # [22:06] <CIA-1> html-spec: ianh@340c8d12-0b0e-0410-8428-c7bf67bfef74 * ff102a9aca43 r6578 / (complete.html index source):
  188. # [22:06] <CIA-1> html-spec: [e] (0) mention intent
  189. # [22:06] <CIA-1> html-spec: Fixing http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13802
  190. # [22:06] <pimpbot> 13802: contributor, P3, NEW, "Append the Unicode character with code point b+0x20 to attribute name" - understanding the intent here relies on a knowledge of the layout of ascii. Please make it explicit what is going on.
  191. # [22:21] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: mention intent (whatwg r6579) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Sep/0057.html> ** hixie: typo (whatwg r6578) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Sep/0056.html> ** hixie: Try to fix potentially confusing terminology. (whatwg r6577) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Sep/0055.html> ** hixie: Compatibility with Gecko/Webkit and apparently some legacy s
  192. # [22:25] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13802] "Append the Unicode character with code point b+0x20 to attribute name" - understanding the intent here relies on a knowledge of the layout of ascii. Please make it explicit what is going on. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0880.html> ** [Bug 13798] Misspelling in the notes added in bug 12915 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Sep/0879.html> ** [Bug 13802] "Appen
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  195. # [22:57] <pimpbot> planet: Rob Hawkes: A look inside Rawkets - onGameStart 2011 <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/rawkes/~3/V8-3wKEUViQ/a-look-inside-rawkets-ongamestart-2011>
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