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- # Session Start: Thu Oct 06 00:00:00 2011
- # Session Ident: #html-wg
- # [00:07] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13779] To decode application/x-www-form-urlencoded payloads,... If the isindex flag is set and the first control really -->ways<-- an isindex control <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0210.html> ** [Bug 13779] To decode application/x-www-form-urlencoded payloads,... If the isindex flag is set and the first control really -->ways<-- an isindex control <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugz
- # [00:09] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: typo (whatwg r6638) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Oct/0031.html>
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- # [00:37] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14019] For the purposes of the requirement, form controls should be handled in same way as text nodes. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0214.html> ** [Bug 14013] "For the purposes of this requirement, ..." : Text nodes in style and script elements must not be counted as well. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0213.html> ** [Bug 14023] Add example of <blockquote> ins
- # [00:39] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: blockquote example with figcaption for credit (whatwg r6639) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Oct/0032.html>
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- # [01:07] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14013] "For the purposes of this requirement, ..." : Text nodes in style and script elements must not be counted as well. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0216.html> ** [Bug 14013] "For the purposes of this requirement, ..." : Text nodes in style and script elements must not be counted as well. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0215.html>
- # [01:09] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Define the concept of 'palpable content' so that we can better define the 'should'-level requirement equivalent to HTML4's 'paragraphs must not be empty'. This might be overkill. On the other hand, this might be useful in the future in defining other requirements. (whatwg r6640) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Oct/0033.html>
- # [01:37] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13850] Clarify mediagroup author requirements (any text allowed?) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0223.html> ** [Bug 13852] Add source and track <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0222.html> ** [Bug 14016] Please clarify whether <div><ins><style scoped></style>...</ins>...</div> is allowed or not. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/
- # [01:39] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Clarify the value of mediagroup='' attributes is freeform text. (whatwg r6644) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Oct/0037.html> ** hixie: Add <source> and <track> to the parsing rules' list of 'special' elements (whatwg r6643) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Oct/0036.html> ** hixie: Nail down <style scoped> content model rules. If anyone has a better idea of how to do this, le
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- # [01:41] <pimpbot> planet: openmatt: Help spread the word: Who’s your Mozilla Festival dream team? <http://openmatt.wordpress.com/2011/10/05/help-spread-the-word-whos-your-mozilla-festival-dream-team/>
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- # [02:07] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13850] Clarify mediagroup author requirements (any text allowed?) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0224.html>
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- # [02:38] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13769] WF3: Add trim="" attribute to <textarea>, <input type=text/search>, <form>, and <fieldset> (applying to all contained fields of appropriate types) that strips leading and trailing whitespace from the value <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0226.html> ** [Bug 13608] Add <menuitem> element <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0225.html>
- # [02:41] <pimpbot> changes: SSE; hixie: Briefly show an example of using different event types in EventSource. (whatwg r6645) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Oct/0038.html>
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- # [03:08] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12399] <video> Expose statistics for media elements <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0227.html>
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- # [05:08] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14394] New: I request a means to use XML elements that are based on data-types that, at least, have been validated by XSD or preferably XSD1.1. This would permit the use of html5 or xhtml5 with the software that is based on the next generation of medical informatics <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0228.html>
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- # [07:39] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14394] I request a means to use XML elements that are based on data-types that, at least, have been validated by XSD or preferably XSD1.1. This would permit the use of html5 or xhtml5 with the software that is based on the next generation of medical informatics <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0229.html> ** [Bug 14394] I request a means to use XML elements that are based on data-types that, at least, have
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- # [08:53] <pimpbot> changes: SSE; hixie: Define compatibility mapping for ISO-2022-JP. (whatwg r6646) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Oct/0040.html> ** hixie: Define compatibility mapping for ISO-2022-JP. (whatwg r6646) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Oct/0039.html>
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- # [09:09] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7444] EUC-JP and ISO-2022-JP also need replacement encodings: CP51932 (or eucJP-ms) and CP50221. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0232.html> ** [Bug 7444] EUC-JP and ISO-2022-JP also need replacement encodings: CP51932 (or eucJP-ms) and CP50221. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0231.html>
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- # [10:09] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13824] If location.href is set in window.onload, firefox treats it as a redirect and removes the page from the session history. Consider specifying that. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0233.html>
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- # [11:10] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12399] <video> Expose statistics for media elements <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0236.html> ** [Bug 13769] WF3: Add trim="" attribute to <textarea>, <input type=text/search>, <form>, and <fieldset> (applying to all contained fields of appropriate types) that strips leading and trailing whitespace from the value <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0235.html> ** [Bu
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- # [12:40] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13779] To decode application/x-www-form-urlencoded payloads,... If the isindex flag is set and the first control really -->ways<-- an isindex control <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0237.html> ** [Bug 14377] <!DOCKTYPE html SYSTEM ' about : legacy-compat '>, <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0238.html>
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- # [13:44] <pimpbot> planet: sneethling: i18njs : Internationalize Your JavaScript With A Little Help From JSON And The Server <http://blog.mozilla.com/webdev/2011/10/06/i18njs-internationalize-your-javascript-with-a-little-help-from-json-and-the-server/>
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- # [16:45] <pimpbot> planet: Steve Faulkner: Browser & Assistive Technology Tests Redux <http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/2011/10/browser-assistive-technology-tests-redux/>
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- # [18:05] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
- # [18:05] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference
- # [18:05] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
- # [18:05] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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- # [18:05] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
- # [18:05] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
- # [18:05] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
- # [18:05] <trackbot> Date: 06 October 2011
- # [18:05] <Zakim> + +1.251.280.aaaa
- # [18:05] * dsinger_ zakim, mute dsinger
- # [18:05] * Zakim dsinger should now be muted
- # [18:05] <Julian> Zakim, +1.251.280.aaaa is me
- # [18:05] <Zakim> +Julian; got it
- # [18:05] <dsinger_> zakim, who is here?
- # [18:05] <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P36, dsinger (muted), Julian
- # [18:05] <Julian> Zakim, mute me
- # [18:05] <Zakim> On IRC I see dsinger_, arun, rubys, adrianba, Julian, MikeSmith, miketaylr, plh, Lachy, hiro, karl, mjs, myakura, arronei_, webben, pingo, hober, anne, inimino, jmb, krijnh, CIA-1,
- # [18:05] <Zakim> ... jgraham, Jedi, Philip, gsnedders, pimpbot, ed, Dashiva, gavin, Hixie, [tm], trackbot, RRSAgent, shepazu, johndrinkwater
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- # [18:05] <Zakim> Julian should now be muted
- # [18:05] <Zakim> +Sam
- # [18:07] * plh zakim, call plh-work
- # [18:07] * Zakim ok, plh; the call is being made
- # [18:07] <Zakim> +Plh
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- # [18:08] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
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- # [18:08] <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft] has adrianba
- # [18:09] <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
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- # [18:09] <rubys> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2011OctDec/0000.html
- # [18:09] <pimpbot> Title: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2011-10-06: Action items, new issues, issue progress, revert request, WG F2F registration from Paul Cotton on 2011-10-05 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from October to December 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
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- # [18:10] <eliot> zakim, microsoft.a is me
- # [18:10] <rubys> scribe: rubys
- # [18:10] <rubys> chair: paulc
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- # [18:10] <Zakim> +eliot; got it
- # [18:10] <dsinger_> zakim, who is here?
- # [18:10] <Zakim> - +1.415.595.aacc
- # [18:10] <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P36, dsinger (muted), Julian (muted), Sam, Plh, +1.619.524.aabb, [Microsoft], eliot
- # [18:10] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has adrianba
- # [18:10] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
- # [18:11] <paulc> Zakim, [Microsoft.a] has paulc
- # [18:11] <Zakim> On IRC I see J_Voracek, paulc, mjs_, eliot, davidb, Zakim, dsinger_, arun, rubys, adrianba, Julian, MikeSmith, miketaylr, plh, Lachy, hiro, karl, mjs, myakura, arronei_, webben,
- # [18:11] <Zakim> ... pingo, hober, anne, inimino, jmb, krijnh, CIA-1, jgraham, Jedi, Philip, gsnedders, pimpbot, ed, Dashiva, gavin, Hixie, [tm], trackbot, RRSAgent, shepazu, johndrinkwater
- # [18:11] <rubys> topic: ACTION items due by Thursday, October 6
- # [18:11] <rubys> action-204?
- # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-204
- # [18:11] <trackbot> ACTION-204 -- Sam Ruby to ping hixie on status of P1 bugs -- due 2011-10-06 -- OPEN
- # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/204
- # [18:11] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-204: Ping hixie on status of P1 bugs - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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- # [18:11] <mjs_> Zakim, +1.415.595.aacc is me
- # [18:11] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
- # [18:11] <Zakim> -??P36
- # [18:11] <Zakim> sorry, mjs_, I do not recognize a party named '+1.415.595.aacc'
- # [18:11] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13769] WF3: Add trim="" attribute to <textarea>, <input type=text/search>, <form>, and <fieldset> (applying to all contained fields of appropriate types) that strips leading and trailing whitespace from the value <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0239.html>
- # [18:12] <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
- # [18:12] <rubys> rubys: I did ping hixie, he seems to be aware of the two bugs, but doesn't seem to be processing P1 bugs expeditiously
- # [18:12] <rubys> paulc: let's keep this action open
- # [18:12] <rubys> topic: New Issues This Week
- # [18:12] <rubys> issue-180?
- # [18:12] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-180
- # [18:12] <trackbot> ISSUE-180 -- Add "allow-popups" for iframe@sandbox -- open
- # [18:12] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/180
- # [18:12] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-180: Add "allow-popups" for iframe@sandbox - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
- # [18:13] <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
- # [18:13] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
- # [18:13] <Zakim> +Mike
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- # [18:13] <rubys> paulc: we got some pushback from Ian, and the chairs discussed it, and decided to issue the call for proposals
- # [18:13] <rubys> paulc: if this can be resolved by amicable consensus, we can stop tracking it at that time
- # [18:13] <Zakim> +??P49
- # [18:13] <rubys> topic: Items Closed Last Week
- # [18:13] <rubys> paulc: none
- # [18:13] <janina> zakim, ??P49 is Janina
- # [18:13] <Zakim> +Janina; got it
- # [18:13] <rubys> topic: Items Closing This Week
- # [18:13] <rubys> issue-170?
- # [18:13] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-170
- # [18:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-170 -- make URIs valid link relations -- raised
- # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/170
- # [18:13] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-170: make URIs valid link relations - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
- # [18:13] <rubys> issue-171?
- # [18:13] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-171
- # [18:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-171 -- URI-s generated for microdata attribute values -- raised
- # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/171
- # [18:13] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-171: URI-s generated for microdata attribute values - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
- # [18:14] <rubys> issue-173?
- # [18:14] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-173
- # [18:14] <trackbot> ISSUE-173 -- Split AppCache out -- raised
- # [18:14] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/173
- # [18:14] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-173: Split AppCache out - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
- # [18:14] <rubys> paulc: these issues close on Saturday
- # [18:14] * Julian is reminded
- # [18:14] <rubys> paulc: if you need a small extension, you are better off asking for that before the due date
- # [18:15] <rubys> topic: Items Closing Next Week
- # [18:15] <rubys> issue-175?
- # [18:15] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-175
- # [18:15] <trackbot> ISSUE-175 -- Normative Reference to Work Attributed Solely to Pseudonymous Author -- raised
- # [18:15] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/175
- # [18:15] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-175: Normative Reference to Work Attributed Solely to Pseudonymous Author - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
- # [18:15] <rubys> paulc: this is due October 14th (a week Friday)
- # [18:15] <rubys> topic: New Calls this week
- # [18:15] <rubys> issue-180?
- # [18:15] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-180
- # [18:15] <trackbot> ISSUE-180 -- Add "allow-popups" for iframe@sandbox -- open
- # [18:15] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/180
- # [18:15] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-180: Add "allow-popups" for iframe@sandbox - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
- # [18:16] <rubys> paulc: as previously mentioned, the chairs decided to issue a call for proposals for this one. Due November 4th
- # [18:16] <rubys> topic: New Surveys this week
- # [18:16] <rubys> paulc: None
- # [18:16] <rubys> paulc: the chairs have started a worklist of change proposals to be reviewed by the chairs
- # [18:17] <rubys> paulc: if there are particular issues that people would like to be put to the front of the queue, please let us know
- # [18:17] <rubys> janina: my guess is that we will get 2 or 3 from the a11y TF
- # [18:18] <rubys> topic: Decisions this week
- # [18:18] <rubys> paulc: none (as there haven't been any surveys)
- # [18:18] <rubys> topic: Other Business
- # [18:18] <rubys> Revert request for r6610, and moving forward on ISSUE-129
- # [18:18] <rubys> paulc: I believe that change has been reverted
- # [18:19] <rubys> paulc: there is a second request that came in overnight, and the chairs are actively discussing that item by email. You should see a response in 48 hours.
- # [18:19] <rubys> paulc: HTML WG F2F and Technical Plenary registration
- # [18:19] <Zakim> -Julian
- # [18:20] <rubys> paulc: same place as last year, the two key dates; the daily per diem fee goes up on the 14th and there is a hotel block that is set to expire
- # [18:20] <rubys> paulc: last time I checked, we had about 30-40 each of WG members and observers
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- # [18:20] <Zakim> +Julian
- # [18:21] <rubys> paulc: traditionally, we have run these meetings in an unconference style
- # [18:21] <Julian> Zakim, mute me
- # [18:21] <Zakim> Julian should now be muted
- # [18:21] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Oct/0033.html
- # [18:21] <pimpbot> Title: REMINDER: TPAC2011 Meeting Registration Open, 31Oct-4 Nov. 2011, Santa Clara, CA from Paul Cotton on 2011-10-05 (public-html@w3.org from October 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
- # [18:21] <rubys> paulc: there are a number of topics that overlap
- # [18:21] <rubys> paulc: questions?
- # [18:21] <rubys> topic: Chair and Scribe for next meeting
- # [18:22] <rubys> paulc: I am presuming that Maciej is chairing, volunteers to scribe?
- # [18:22] <rubys> paulc: if no one else volunteers, I will scribe
- # [18:22] <rubys> topic: Adjournment
- # [18:22] <Zakim> - +1.415.595.aadd
- # [18:22] * dsinger_ thx Paul for not singing as promised by ply
- # [18:22] <Zakim> -eliot
- # [18:22] <Zakim> -Plh
- # [18:22] <Zakim> -Mike
- # [18:22] <Zakim> -Julian
- # [18:22] <Zakim> -Janina
- # [18:22] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
- # [18:22] <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
- # [18:22] <Zakim> - +1.619.524.aabb
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- # [18:23] <rubys> rrsagent, generate minutes
- # [18:23] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/10/06-html-wg-minutes.html rubys
- # [18:23] <Zakim> -Sam
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