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  3. # [00:02] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13979] There no longer is a trusted flag. Based on your input we just use IDL attributes now rather than concepts (when possible anyway). <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0631.html>
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  6. # [00:32] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Correctness (colSpan and rowSpan reflect 'colspan' and 'rowspan' not 'colSpan' and 'rowSpan'). (whatwg r6703) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Oct/0102.html> ** postmsg; hixie: Correctness (useMap reflects 'usemap' not 'useMap'). (whatwg r6702) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Oct/0101.html> ** hixie: Correctness (useMap reflects 'usemap' not 'useMap'). (whatwg r6702) <http
  7. # [00:32] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13904] "web+" URI scheme prefix <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0652.html> ** [Bug 14014] area elements in map elements should be handled as if they were embedded content for the purpose of this requirement. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0651.html> ** [Bug 14027] The text about clearData() does not state what happens if the item list contains more than one entr
  8. # [01:04] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Tweak some text and add an example to try to clarify some confusion. (whatwg r6704) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Oct/0103.html>
  9. # [01:04] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14058] Apparently some people are reading this to mean that it's wrong to refer to section elements in CSS selectors: http://www.stubbornella.org/content/2011/09/06/style-headings-using-html5-sections/ — please clarify to make it obvious that the discouragemen <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0658.html> ** [Bug 14058] Apparently some people are reading this to mean that it's wrong to refer to section
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  14. # [01:38] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: grammar (whatwg r6709) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Oct/0108.html> ** hixie: xrefs for DOM Parsing (whatwg r6708) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Oct/0107.html> ** hixie: Try slightly more pedantically correct wording. Unfortunately DOM Core doesn't have good terminology for this either way. (whatwg r6707) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Oct/
  15. # [01:38] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14192] "The following term is defined in the Cookie specification" should be: "The following terms are defined in the Cookie specification" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0686.html> ** [Bug 14182] setTimeout("{", 10) and window.onerror <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0685.html> ** [Bug 14209] What are web evelutions? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/publi
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  19. # [02:08] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14235] >10 Rendering >10.5 Bindings >10.5.15 textarea element >If the element has a rows attribute, ... >Otherwise, the user agent is expected to act as if it had a user-agent-level style sheet rule setting the 'height' property on the element to the textarea ef <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0703.html> ** [Bug 12586] Suggest using Typed Array for ImageData pixels. Add a new 'buffer' attribute that refe
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  27. # [03:11] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Fold MutableTextTrack into TextTrack. (whatwg r6710) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Oct/0109.html>
  28. # [03:11] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14105] <track> Drop MutableTextTrack and make TextTrack always mutable <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0704.html>
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  33. # [04:13] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12586] Suggest using Typed Array for ImageData pixels. Add a new 'buffer' attribute that references ArrayBuffer of the pixel data. Convert 'data' (CanvasPixelArray) to Uint8Array view of 'buffer'. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0707.html> ** [Bug 13800] Add ArrayBuffer to Transferable types list (2.8.4); update Structured clone algorithm <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011O
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  43. # [04:44] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12586] Suggest using Typed Array for ImageData pixels. Add a new 'buffer' attribute that references ArrayBuffer of the pixel data. Convert 'data' (CanvasPixelArray) to Uint8Array view of 'buffer'. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0709.html> ** [Bug 12586] Suggest using Typed Array for ImageData pixels. Add a new 'buffer' attribute that references ArrayBuffer of the pixel data. Convert 'data' (CanvasPixelA
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  54. # [06:17] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14515] New: helllo a balld àda <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0710.html>
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  59. # [07:50] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14202] Have a way to mark up the publication date and latest update time for <article> elements <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0712.html> ** [Bug 14515] helllo a balld àda <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0711.html> ** [Bug 14511] clock f sdf sdf sdf sdf s df <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0713.html>
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  61. # [08:22] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Make TextTrackCue more mutable. (whatwg r6711) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Oct/0110.html>
  62. # [08:22] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14202] Have a way to mark up the publication date and latest update time for <article> elements <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0719.html> ** [Bug 12586] Suggest using Typed Array for ImageData pixels. Add a new 'buffer' attribute that references ArrayBuffer of the pixel data. Convert 'data' (CanvasPixelArray) to Uint8Array view of 'buffer'. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/20
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  64. # [08:52] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14203] JavaScript API to access unsupported CSS properties <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0723.html> ** [Bug 14105] <track> Drop MutableTextTrack and make TextTrack always mutable <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0722.html> ** [Bug 13800] Add ArrayBuffer to Transferable types list (2.8.4); update Structured clone algorithm <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/
  65. # [09:24] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13903] leftover text about "sidebar hyperlinks" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0725.html>
  66. # [09:55] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13871] <video> behavior when setting currentTime to current playback position <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0728.html> ** [Bug 14516] New: IANA reg of application/x-www-form-urlencoded should actually point to definition <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0726.html> ** [Bug 14516] IANA reg of application/x-www-form-urlencoded should actually point to definition <
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  68. # [10:26] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14517] New: TextTrackCue: cueAsSource() -> cueAsSource <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0729.html>
  69. # [10:57] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14175] should allow deferring these steps until the event handler would be invoked (observable with window.onerror) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0730.html>
  70. # [11:08] <pimpbot> planet: Robert Nyman: Robert’s read: links and suggestions, October 20th 2011 <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/robertnyman/~3/RSaVV6T-OdY/>
  71. # [11:28] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14518] New: Microdata: Can "the same vocabulary" span multiple domains? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0731.html> ** [Bug 14518] Microdata: Can "the same vocabulary" span multiple domains? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0732.html> ** [Bug 14518] Microdata: Can "the same vocabulary" span multiple domains? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzi
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  75. # [11:59] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14519] New: consider to make <nav> a non-sectioning element <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0735.html> ** [Bug 14519] consider to make <nav> a non-sectioning element <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0736.html>
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  78. # [12:31] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14092] I don't think the phrase "bubbling event listeners" has any real meaning. Would't non-capturing event listener be better here? Handlers can be invoked during the bubbling or at_target phases, right? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0743.html> ** [Bug 14522] New: Why does <table> have <caption> but <figure> have <figcaption> ? They can both just use <caption> instead! Gets rid of unnecessary superfl
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  81. # [13:01] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14210] Reflecting href with a URL that doesn't resolve doesn't return the empty string in browsers (at least opera/moz, don't know what URL would fail to resolve in webkit). Instead it returns the value without resolving. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0746.html> ** [Bug 14192] "The following term is defined in the Cookie specification" should be: "The following terms are defined in the Cookie specifica
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  90. # [14:04] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14520] consider to add element <outside> to de-section some text <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0747.html> ** [Bug 14520] consider to add element <outside> to de-section some text <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0748.html>
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  94. # [14:35] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14523] New: why are the attributes sometimes covered by quotes and sometimes aren't? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0751.html> ** [Bug 14039] The algorithm for finding properties of an item doesn't check for element namespace <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0750.html> ** [Bug 14520] consider to add element <outside> to de-section some text <http://lists.w3.or
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  97. # [15:06] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13871] <video> behavior when setting currentTime to current playback position <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0752.html>
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  105. # [16:08] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14524] New: Why is <big> element removed, but not the <small> element? I think big and small are companions, they are a couple, they're married. Either they should both stay, or they should both go! It is unfair that one has to stay, but the other has to go. I think <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0754.html> ** [Bug 13903] leftover text about "sidebar hyperlinks" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/p
  106. # [16:10] <pimpbot> planet: Robert Nyman: Mozilla Hacks Weekly, October 20th 2011 <http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/10/mozilla-hacks-weekly-october-20th-2011/>
  107. # [16:40] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14525] New: Why does the element for the attribute <track> is named 'kind' ? It should be named 'type' instead. Also, why is 'srclang' instead of just 'lang'? Try use same name for attributes in different tags to preserve keywords to minimum, then it becomes easier t <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0755.html>
  108. # [17:10] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12586] Suggest using Typed Array for ImageData pixels. Add a new 'buffer' attribute that references ArrayBuffer of the pixel data. Convert 'data' (CanvasPixelArray) to Uint8Array view of 'buffer'. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0757.html> ** [Bug 14525] Why does the element for the attribute <track> is named 'kind' ? It should be named 'type' instead. Also, why is 'srclang' instead of just 'lang'? Try u
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  111. # [17:42] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14526] New: When adding filenames to the data set, should there be normalization of decomposed forms? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0758.html> ** [Bug 14526] When adding filenames to the data set, should there be normalization of decomposed forms? <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0759.html>
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  123. # [18:05] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
  124. # [18:05] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference
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  127. # [18:05] <dsinger_> Trackbot, start meeting
  128. # [18:05] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  129. # [18:05] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  131. # [18:05] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  132. # [18:05] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  133. # [18:05] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  134. # [18:05] <trackbot> Date: 20 October 2011
  135. # [18:05] <trackbot> Sorry, dsinger_, I don't understand 'Trackbot, start meeting'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help
  136. # [18:05] <pimpbot> Title: IRC Trackbot (at www.w3.org)
  137. # [18:06] <Zakim> +[Apple]
  138. # [18:06] <hober> Zakim, Apple has hober
  139. # [18:06] * dsinger_ zakim, mute dsinger
  140. # [18:06] <Zakim> +hober; got it
  141. # [18:06] * Zakim dsinger should now be muted
  142. # [18:06] <Zakim> +Radhika_Roy
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  145. # [18:06] <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
  146. # [18:06] * dsinger_ thx Sam. Could
  147. # [18:06] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
  148. # [18:06] <Zakim> +Mike
  149. # [18:07] <Zakim> + +49.251.280.aabb
  150. # [18:07] <hober> ScribeNick: hober
  151. # [18:07] * dsinger_ could not mute before meeting started...
  152. # [18:07] <Julian> Zakim, +49.251.280.aabb is me
  153. # [18:07] <Zakim> +Julian; got it
  154. # [18:07] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  155. # [18:07] <Julian> Zakim, mute me
  156. # [18:07] <Zakim> Julian should now be muted
  157. # [18:07] <eliot> zakim, microsoft is me
  158. # [18:07] <Zakim> +eliot; got it
  159. # [18:07] <janina> zakim, who's here?
  160. # [18:07] <Zakim> On the phone I see dsinger (muted), ??P17, +1.619.524.aaaa, [Apple], Radhika_Roy, Mike, Julian (muted), eliot
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  162. # [18:07] <Zakim> [Apple] has hober
  163. # [18:07] <Zakim> On IRC I see Bruce, eliot, Zakim, RRSAgent, MFoladare, rubys, paulc, J_Voracek, Julian, janina, dsinger_, karl, anne, shepazu, MikeSmith, miketaylr, davidb, plh, nonge__, arronei_,
  164. # [18:07] <Zakim> ... Dashiva, krijnh, heycam, hober, pingo, lgombos, Jedi, gsnedders, johndrinkwater, gavin, webben, inimino, CIA-1, ed, jgraham, [tm], pimpbot, Philip, hiro, jmb, Hixie, trackbot
  165. # [18:07] <Zakim> +Sam
  166. # [18:07] <janina> zakim, ??P17 is Janina
  167. # [18:07] <Zakim> +Janina; got it
  168. # [18:07] <rubys> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2011OctDec/0005.html
  169. # [18:07] <pimpbot> Title: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2010-10-20: issue updates from Sam Ruby on 2011-10-19 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from October to December 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
  170. # [18:08] <Zakim> -[Apple]
  171. # [18:08] <Zakim> +[Apple]
  172. # [18:08] <hober> Zakim, Apple has hober
  173. # [18:08] <Zakim> +hober; got it
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  175. # [18:09] <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
  176. # [18:09] <hober> Topic: Action items due by Thursday, October 20
  177. # [18:09] <hober> rubys: there are none
  178. # [18:09] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
  179. # [18:09] <hober> Topic: New Issues This Week
  180. # [18:09] <hober> issue-181?
  181. # [18:09] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-181
  182. # [18:09] <trackbot> ISSUE-181 -- remove remains of "sidebar" link relation -- raised
  183. # [18:09] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/181
  184. # [18:09] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
  185. # [18:09] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  186. # [18:09] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-181: remove remains of "sidebar" link relation - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  187. # [18:10] <hober> Topic: Items Closed This Week
  188. # [18:10] <hober> ISSUE-166?
  189. # [18:10] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-166
  190. # [18:10] <trackbot> ISSUE-166 -- text/html-sandboxed does not always fail closed -- closed
  191. # [18:10] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/166
  192. # [18:10] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-166: text/html-sandboxed does not always fail closed - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  193. # [18:10] <hober> rubys: decision applied
  194. # [18:10] <hober> http://html5.org/tools/web-apps-tracker?from=6656&to=6657
  195. # [18:10] <pimpbot> Title: HTML5 Tracker (at html5.org)
  196. # [18:10] <hober> ISSUE-173?
  197. # [18:10] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-173
  198. # [18:10] <trackbot> ISSUE-173 -- Split AppCache out -- closed
  199. # [18:10] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/173
  200. # [18:10] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-173: Split AppCache out - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  201. # [18:10] <hober> ISSUE-175?
  202. # [18:10] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-175
  203. # [18:10] <trackbot> ISSUE-175 -- Normative Reference to Work Attributed Solely to Pseudonymous Author -- closed
  204. # [18:10] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/175
  205. # [18:10] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-175: Normative Reference to Work Attributed Solely to Pseudonymous Author - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  206. # [18:10] <hober> rubys: both closed without prejudice
  207. # [18:10] <hober> rubys: there are people working on CPs for both
  208. # [18:10] <hober> rubys: will open when we receive them
  209. # [18:10] <hober> Topic: Items Closing This Week
  210. # [18:10] <hober> ISSUE-174?
  211. # [18:10] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-174
  212. # [18:10] <trackbot> ISSUE-174 -- potential conflict between Link: and <link> semantics -- raised
  213. # [18:10] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/174
  214. # [18:10] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-174: potential conflict between Link: and semantics - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  215. # [18:10] <hober> ISSUE-176?
  216. # [18:10] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-176
  217. # [18:10] <trackbot> ISSUE-176 -- Revert the edit that removed the Editing API -- raised
  218. # [18:10] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/176
  219. # [18:10] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-176: Revert the edit that removed the Editing API - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  220. # [18:11] <hober> rubys: both have change proposals due Oct 21
  221. # [18:11] <hober> Topic: Items Closing Next Week
  222. # [18:11] <Zakim> +adrianba
  223. # [18:11] <hober> ISSUE-177?
  224. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-177
  225. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-177 -- References to Internet-Drafts should be given as "Work in Progress" per RFC 2026. -- raised
  226. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/177
  227. # [18:11] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-177: References to Internet-Drafts should be given as "Work in Progress" per RFC 2026. - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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  229. # [18:11] <hober> ISSUE-178?
  230. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-178
  231. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-178 -- Don't include colon in examples of URI scheme names -- raised
  232. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/178
  233. # [18:11] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-178: Dont include colon in examples of URI scheme names - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  234. # [18:11] <hober> ISSUE-179?
  235. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-179
  236. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-179 -- {audio,video} require param child (or equivalent) -- raised
  237. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/179
  238. # [18:11] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-179: {audio,video} require param child (or equivalent) - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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  240. # [18:11] <hober> rubys: all change proposals due next Friday, Oct 28
  241. # [18:11] <Julian> 177 has a change proposal
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  243. # [18:12] <hober> rubys: i'll update the issue status page
  244. # [18:12] <hober> Topic: New Calls this week
  245. # [18:12] <hober> rubys: there are none
  246. # [18:12] <hober> Topic: New Surveys this week
  247. # [18:12] <hober> rubys: there are none
  248. # [18:12] <hober> Topic: Decisions this week
  249. # [18:12] <hober> rubys: there are none
  250. # [18:12] <hober> Topic: Other Business
  251. # [18:12] <hober> Bug 10830 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10830
  252. # [18:12] <pimpbot> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10830 public-i18n-cjk, P2, NEW, i18n comment : Please add support for rb
  253. # [18:12] <pimpbot> 10830: public-i18n-cjk, P2, NEW, i18n comment : Please add support for rb
  254. # [18:13] <hober> rubys: some discussion, attempt to raise priority missed deadline
  255. # [18:13] <hober> rubys: editor has until the end of the year to resolve
  256. # [18:13] <hober> rubys: can be escalated, just giving editor time to address the issue
  257. # [18:13] <hober> Topic: Other other business
  258. # [18:13] <hober> Topic: Scribe for next meeting
  259. # [18:14] <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
  260. # [18:14] <adrianba> i can scribe next week
  261. # [18:14] <hober> Topic: Adjournment
  262. # [18:14] <Zakim> -Mike
  263. # [18:14] <Zakim> -Sam
  264. # [18:14] <Zakim> -Janina
  265. # [18:14] <Zakim> -[Apple]
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  267. # [18:14] <Zakim> -Julian
  268. # [18:14] <Zakim> -Radhika_Roy
  269. # [18:14] * dsinger_ wow, speedy
  270. # [18:14] <Zakim> -adrianba
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  272. # [18:14] <Zakim> -eliot
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  274. # [18:14] <Zakim> -dsinger
  275. # [18:14] * hober dsinger: I believe the sound that call made was "nyerooooom"
  276. # [18:15] <hober> RRSAgent: make minutes public
  277. # [18:15] <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', hober. Try /msg RRSAgent help
  278. # [18:15] <hober> RRSAgent: make minutes
  279. # [18:15] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/10/20-html-wg-minutes.html hober
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  299. # [18:43] <pimpbot> changes: sam: Change proposal for issue 177 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Oct/0111.html>
  300. # [18:43] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14202] Have a way to mark up the publication date and latest update time for <article> elements <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0760.html>
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  306. # [19:40] <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, [Microsoft], in HTML_WG()12:00PM
  307. # [19:41] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  308. # [19:41] <Zakim> Attendees were dsinger, +1.619.524.aaaa, hober, Radhika_Roy, Mike, Julian, eliot, Sam, Janina, Cynthia_Shelly, paulc, adrianba
  309. # [19:45] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13903] leftover text about "sidebar hyperlinks" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0761.html>
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  326. # [22:19] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: typo (whatwg r6712) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Oct/0112.html>
  327. # [22:19] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14039] The algorithm for finding properties of an item doesn't check for element namespace <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0769.html> ** [Bug 14175] should allow deferring these steps until the event handler would be invoked (observable with window.onerror) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0764.html> ** [Bug 13240] Consider replacing <time> with <data> <http://
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  331. # [22:41] <pimpbot> planet: Ben Moskowitz: Popcorn is a Gateway Drug <http://www.benmoskowitz.com/?p=390>
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  333. # [22:51] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14175] should allow deferring these steps until the event handler would be invoked (observable with window.onerror) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0775.html> ** [Bug 14202] Have a way to mark up the publication date and latest update time for <article> elements <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0774.html> ** [Bug 14526] When adding filenames to the data set, shoul
  334. # [23:22] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14109] Stop and start media buffering <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0784.html> ** [Bug 14100] <track> typo: Neil DeGrasse Tyson <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0783.html> ** [Bug 14153] This defeats the entire purpose of separating style and content. Style scoping works quite well using the CSS cascade <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzill
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  336. # [23:54] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14212] LinkStyle usage means mandatory dependency on CSSOM types <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0786.html> ** [Bug 14176] If the script is not same-origin, window.onerror should be invoked with arguments ("Script error.", "", 0) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/0785.html>
  337. # Session Close: Fri Oct 21 00:00:00 2011

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