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  3. # [00:05] <pimpbot> planet: Chris Heilmann: CSS 3D transformations in Firefox Nightly <http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/10/css-3d-transformations-in-firefox-nightly/>
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  7. # [00:50] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: typo (whatwg r6768) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Oct/0159.html> ** hixie: Move the requirement that tracks be loaded to blocking HAVE_FUTURE_DATA rather than HAVE_CURRENT_DATA. (WIP) (whatwg r6767) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Oct/0158.html>
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  9. # [00:55] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14569] New: URL object should not return DOMTokenList <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1166.html> ** [Bug 14260] <track> "text tracks ready" and HTMLMediaElement.readyState <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1165.html> ** [Bug 14260] <track> "text tracks ready" and HTMLMediaElement.readyState <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1164.h
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  13. # [01:21] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Somehow the automatic feature of cue line position was never properly specified. (whatwg r6769) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Oct/0160.html>
  14. # [01:25] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 7798] More data from TextMetrics API <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1173.html> ** [Bug 12399] <video> Expose statistics for media elements <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1172.html> ** [Bug 13358] <video> also fire a 'change' event at VideoTrackList, AudioTrackList, and TextTrackList objects when their list of tracks changes <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Publ
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  17. # [01:57] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13995] <track> Don't check Content-Type for <track> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1182.html> ** [Bug 14104] Video: Streaming text support in <track> element <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1181.html> ** [Bug 14210] Reflecting href with a URL that doesn't resolve doesn't return the empty string in browsers (at least opera/moz, don't know what URL would fail to r
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  20. # [02:23] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: drop the note about the implications of drag-and-drop on undo (whatwg r6770) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Oct/0161.html>
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  22. # [02:28] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11482] WF2: Change accept="" to accept file extensions as well as MIME types (maybe based on whether they start with a period) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1194.html> ** [Bug 14364] appcache: Add an API to make appcache support caching specific URLs dynamically <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1193.html> ** [Bug 14337] Drag-and-drop / undo manager interaction <
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  25. # [03:30] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 12399] <video> Expose statistics for media elements <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1195.html>
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  42. # [06:11] <pimpbot> planet: Jesper Kristensen: Firefox/Gecko Delivery Meeting Minutes: 2011-10-26 <http://blog.mozilla.com/meeting-notes/archives/692>
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  50. # [06:39] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14175] onerror: Defer firing the onerror from compiling an event handler until it's used <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1196.html>
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  53. # [07:10] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14548] Grouping Content: algorithm for incrementing value (OL->LI @value) does not match any current user agent <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1197.html>
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  57. # [08:12] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14175] onerror: Defer firing the onerror from compiling an event handler until it's used <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1198.html> ** [Bug 14562] According to the website, Canvas2D is one of the specifications that are on "last call", so here's what I'd still like to see (one graphics, two typographical, all three known irks for many people who actually use canvas): - an elliptical arc command in a <
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  59. # [08:44] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14562] According to the website, Canvas2D is one of the specifications that are on "last call", so here's what I'd still like to see (one graphics, two typographical, all three known irks for many people who actually use canvas): - an elliptical arc command in a <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1200.html> ** [Bug 14562] According to the website, Canvas2D is one of the specifications that are on "last call
  60. # [09:46] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14492] <video> change event when tracks are removed <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1202.html>
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  64. # [10:42] <pimpbot> planet: Doctype.com: can <figure> be used with background images? <http://doctype.com/figure-used-background-images>
  65. # [10:48] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11984] Simplify <video> for implementors and authors by ignoring the Content-Type HTTP header <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1206.html> ** [Bug 13995] <track> Don't check Content-Type for <track> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1205.html> ** [Bug 14177] onerror: If the script is not same-origin, window.onerror should be invoked with arguments ("Script error.", "
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  68. # [11:19] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14570] New: In section 4.8.10.12.1/"A line position"/"text track cue computed line position" algorithm: It seems better to let the step 5 be "Increment n by one" instead to get a mapping as: 0, 1, 2, 3... -> -1, -2, -3, -4... ; instead of 0, 1, 2, 3... -> 1, 0, -1, - <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1210.html> ** [Bug 13986] Update vCard vocabulary to RFC6350 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public
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  70. # [11:50] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14284] Need HTML parser algorithm options <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1212.html> ** [Bug 14570] <track> In section 4.8.10.12.1/"A line position"/"text track cue computed line position" algorithm: It seems better to let the step 5 be "Increment n by one" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1211.html> ** [Bug 14487] <track> accept more white space characters as cue
  71. # [12:53] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14427] Investigate if click()'s click-in-progress should apply to user and/or script initiated clicks <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1214.html>
  72. # [13:23] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14427] Investigate if click()'s click-in-progress should apply to user and/or script initiated clicks <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1215.html>
  73. # [13:55] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13358] <video> also fire a 'change' event at VideoTrackList, AudioTrackList, and TextTrackList objects when their list of tracks changes <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1217.html> ** [Bug 14571] New: <track> allow signature to be followed by FF for consistency in the parser <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1216.html>
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  78. # [14:58] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14572] New: Collect space characters and discard them after step 8. <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1218.html>
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  80. # [15:28] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14574] New: The text track cue alignment setting should map to a CSS property ('text-align') <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1223.html> ** [Bug 14574] <track> The text track cue alignment setting should map to a CSS property ('text-align') <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1224.html> ** [Bug 14574] <track> The text track cue alignment setting should map to a CSS pr
  81. # [16:00] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14202] Describe how to use microdata to mark up publication and modification date information for <article>s <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1226.html>
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  86. # [17:32] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14202] Describe how to use microdata to mark up publication and modification date information for <article>s <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1227.html>
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  91. # [18:03] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14575] New: The computed x-position should use the computed size when aligning - not 100 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1229.html> ** [Bug 14575] <track> The computed x-position should use the computed size when aligning - not 100 <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1230.html> ** [Bug 14202] Describe how to use microdata to mark up publication and modification date
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  95. # [18:05] <dsinger_> Trackbot, this will be HTML
  96. # [18:05] <dsinger_> Trackbot this is HTML
  97. # [18:05] <trackbot> Sorry, dsinger_, I don't understand 'Trackbot, this will be HTML'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help
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  100. # [18:05] <dsinger_> Trackbot, start meeting
  101. # [18:05] <trackbot> Sorry, dsinger_, I don't understand 'Trackbot, start meeting'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help
  102. # [18:05] <pimpbot> Title: IRC Trackbot (at www.w3.org)
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  104. # [18:06] <Julian> Zakim, mute me
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  106. # [18:06] <dsinger_> Trackbot start meeting
  107. # [18:07] <adrianba> trackbot, start telcon
  108. # [18:07] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference
  109. # [18:07] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  110. # [18:07] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  112. # [18:07] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  113. # [18:07] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  114. # [18:07] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  115. # [18:07] <trackbot> Date: 27 October 2011
  116. # [18:07] <Julian> Zakim, mute me
  117. # [18:07] <Zakim> Julian should now be muted
  118. # [18:07] <Zakim> +Sam
  119. # [18:07] <paulc> zakim, who is here?
  120. # [18:07] <Zakim> On the phone I see dsinger, [Microsoft], Julian (muted), Radhika_Roy, ??P36, Sam
  121. # [18:07] <Zakim> On IRC I see janina, rubys, MFoladare, Julian, paulc, adrianba, cjones, dsinger_, hober, Joshue, myakura, miketaylr, nonge, plh, jmb, anne, webben, johndrinkwater, [tm], karl,
  122. # [18:07] <Zakim> ... CIA-1, gavin, pimpbot, krijnh, arronei, gsnedders, mjs, hiro, Jedi, Hixie, lgombos, shepazu, Dashiva, pingo, RRSAgent, inimino, ed, jgraham, Philip, trackbot
  123. # [18:07] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
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  125. # [18:07] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
  126. # [18:07] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  127. # [18:07] <janina> zakim, ??P36 is Janina
  128. # [18:07] <Zakim> +Janina; got it
  129. # [18:07] <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft.a] is me
  130. # [18:07] <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
  131. # [18:07] * janina At least, I think so!
  132. # [18:08] <adrianba> ScribeNick: adrianba
  133. # [18:08] <adrianba> Scribe: Adrian Bateman
  134. # [18:08] <adrianba> Chair: Paul Cotton
  135. # [18:08] * dsinger_ zakim, mute dsinger
  136. # [18:08] * Zakim dsinger should now be muted
  137. # [18:08] <adrianba> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2011OctDec/0007.html
  138. # [18:08] <pimpbot> Title: {agenda} HTML WG telecon 2010-10-27: issue updates, task force reports from Paul Cotton on 2011-10-26 (public-html-wg-announce@w3.org from October to December 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
  139. # [18:09] <adrianba> TOPIC: ACTION items due by Thursday, October 27
  140. # [18:09] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  141. # [18:09] <adrianba> paulc: there are none
  142. # [18:09] <adrianba> TOPIC: New Issues This Week
  143. # [18:09] <adrianba> ISSUE-181?
  144. # [18:09] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-181
  145. # [18:09] <trackbot> ISSUE-181 -- remove remains of "sidebar" link relation -- raised
  146. # [18:09] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/181
  147. # [18:09] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-181: remove remains of "sidebar" link relation - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  148. # [18:09] <adrianba> paulc: related to sidebar link relation - it's mentioned later in the agenda
  149. # [18:09] <adrianba> ... comments?
  150. # [18:10] <adrianba> TOPIC: Items Closed Last Week
  151. # [18:10] <adrianba> ISSUE-174?
  152. # [18:10] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-174
  153. # [18:10] <trackbot> ISSUE-174 -- potential conflict between Link: and <link> semantics -- open
  154. # [18:10] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/174
  155. # [18:10] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-174: potential conflict between Link: and semantics - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  156. # [18:10] <adrianba> paulc: there was a call for change proposals that closed on oct 21 - also mentioned later because we received one change proposal so we have a call for counter proposals
  157. # [18:10] <adrianba> ISSUE-176?
  158. # [18:10] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-176
  159. # [18:10] <trackbot> ISSUE-176 -- Revert the edit that removed the Editing API -- closed
  160. # [18:10] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/176
  161. # [18:10] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-176: Revert the edit that removed the Editing API - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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  165. # [18:11] <adrianba> paulc: in this case the chairs have closed the issue without prejudice because we did not feel we received a change proposal that me the structure, content and quality of a change proposal
  166. # [18:11] <adrianba> ... comments?
  167. # [18:11] <adrianba> TOPIC: Items Closing This Week
  168. # [18:11] <adrianba> ISSUE-177?
  169. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-177
  170. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-177 -- References to Internet-Drafts should be given as "Work in Progress" per RFC 2026. -- open
  171. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/177
  172. # [18:11] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-177: References to Internet-Drafts should be given as "Work in Progress" per RFC 2026. - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  173. # [18:11] <adrianba> paulc: call for change proposals closing tomorrow (oct28 - midnight boston time)
  174. # [18:11] <adrianba> ISSUE-177?
  175. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-177
  176. # [18:11] <trackbot> ISSUE-177 -- References to Internet-Drafts should be given as "Work in Progress" per RFC 2026. -- open
  177. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/177
  178. # [18:11] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-177: References to Internet-Drafts should be given as "Work in Progress" per RFC 2026. - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  179. # [18:11] <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
  180. # [18:11] <Julian> q+
  181. # [18:11] * Zakim sees Julian on the speaker queue
  182. # [18:11] <adrianba> paulc: also a call for change proposals due tomorrow
  183. # [18:12] <adrianba> ISSUE-179?
  184. # [18:12] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-179
  185. # [18:12] <trackbot> ISSUE-179 -- {audio,video} require param child (or equivalent) -- open
  186. # [18:12] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/179
  187. # [18:12] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-179: {audio,video} require param child (or equivalent) - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  188. # [18:12] <adrianba> paulc: all closing tomorrow
  189. # [18:12] <adrianba> q?
  190. # [18:12] * Zakim sees Julian on the speaker queue
  191. # [18:12] <Julian> Zakim, unmute me
  192. # [18:12] <Zakim> Julian should no longer be muted
  193. # [18:12] <adrianba> julian: there is a change proposal for issue 177
  194. # [18:12] <adrianba> ... just checking to see if it has been recorded
  195. # [18:12] <adrianba> ... it has
  196. # [18:12] <Julian> Zakim, mute me
  197. # [18:12] <Zakim> Julian should now be muted
  198. # [18:12] <Julian> q-
  199. # [18:12] * Zakim sees no one on the speaker queue
  200. # [18:12] <adrianba> paulc: okay
  201. # [18:13] <adrianba> TOPIC: Items Closing Next Week
  202. # [18:13] <adrianba> ISSUE-180?
  203. # [18:13] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-180
  204. # [18:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-180 -- Add "allow-popups" for iframe@sandbox -- open
  205. # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/180
  206. # [18:13] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-180: Add "allow-popups" for iframe@sandbox - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  207. # [18:13] <adrianba> paulc: also a call for change proposals due nov 4
  208. # [18:13] <adrianba> TOPIC: New Calls this week
  209. # [18:13] <adrianba> ISSUE-181?
  210. # [18:13] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-181
  211. # [18:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-181 -- remove remains of "sidebar" link relation -- raised
  212. # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/181
  213. # [18:13] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-181: remove remains of "sidebar" link relation - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  214. # [18:13] <adrianba> paulc: chairs have issued a call for change proposals due nov 25
  215. # [18:13] <adrianba> ISSUE-174?
  216. # [18:13] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-174
  217. # [18:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-174 -- potential conflict between Link: and <link> semantics -- open
  218. # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/174
  219. # [18:13] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-174: potential conflict between Link: and semantics - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  220. # [18:14] <Zakim> +mjs_
  221. # [18:14] <adrianba> paulc: did receive a change proposal so there is a call for counter proposals also closing nov 25
  222. # [18:14] <adrianba> ... comments?
  223. # [18:14] <adrianba> TOPIC: New Surveys this week
  224. # [18:14] <adrianba> paulc: there are none
  225. # [18:14] <adrianba> TOPIC: Decisions this week
  226. # [18:14] <adrianba> ISSUE-176?
  227. # [18:14] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-176
  228. # [18:14] <trackbot> ISSUE-176 -- Revert the edit that removed the Editing API -- closed
  229. # [18:14] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/176
  230. # [18:14] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-176: Revert the edit that removed the Editing API - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  231. # [18:14] <adrianba> paulc: mentioned before - chairs decided to close issue-176 given the lack of change proposal in the time period
  232. # [18:15] <adrianba> TOPIC: Task Force Reports - Testing Task Force
  233. # [18:15] <adrianba> paulc: krisk is unavailable today to give update - testing IG is meeting before tpac
  234. # [18:15] <adrianba> ... kris is travelling today so we should skip this today
  235. # [18:15] <adrianba> TOPIC: Task Force Reports - Accessibility Task Force
  236. # [18:16] <adrianba> janina: we're looking forward to tpac - several conversations going on, things close to completion from our perspective
  237. # [18:16] <adrianba> ... several reconsideration requestions from text subteam
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  239. # [18:16] <adrianba> ... new conversations from that group: something called table summary in html4, rejected in html5 - some pushback on that from a11y community
  240. # [18:17] <adrianba> ... we think we can serve that better if instead of restoring we introduce a longdesc style mechanism
  241. # [18:17] <adrianba> ... just like we're asking for longdesc the question would be to have this consider for tables too
  242. # [18:17] <adrianba> ... PF will meet on monday and tuesday and some of these topics will be discussed
  243. # [18:18] <adrianba> ... another activity kicking off a tpac is work on the html mappings guide for a11y
  244. # [18:18] <adrianba> ... if nobody has said this before, adobe has stepped up to fund part of steve faulkner's week to fund that guide
  245. # [18:18] <adrianba> ... really appreciate that - he's the right person to do that
  246. # [18:18] <adrianba> ... cyns who is also on the call will be chairing that for the tf
  247. # [18:19] <adrianba> paulc: does the tf intend on proposing unconference topics on thurs morning
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  249. # [18:19] <adrianba> janina: yes
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  251. # [18:19] <adrianba> cyns: canvas a11y will be one and api mapping will be another
  252. # [18:19] <adrianba> janina: i think there will be some media follow-up and possibly the business about table summary and longdesc
  253. # [18:20] <adrianba> cyns: was the text subteam interested too?
  254. # [18:20] <adrianba> janina: yes, if any of the change proposals are not finished we're going to make sure they are finished during the week
  255. # [18:20] <adrianba> paulc: if they are done earlier will they be submitted before the meeting?
  256. # [18:20] <adrianba> janina: yes
  257. # [18:21] <adrianba> paulc: you might consider asking for a session to discuss these either submitted or not submitted
  258. # [18:21] <adrianba> TOPIC: Other Business
  259. # [18:21] <adrianba> paulc: four items here
  260. # [18:21] <adrianba> bug 14492?
  261. # [18:21] <pimpbot> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14492 jan.lindquist, P2, NEW, <video> change event when tracks are removed
  262. # [18:21] <adrianba> paulc: this was sent to the wg by sam
  263. # [18:21] <adrianba> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Oct/0138.html
  264. # [18:21] <pimpbot> Title: RE: [Bug 14492] change event when tracks are removed from Sam Ruby on 2011-10-25 (public-html@w3.org from October 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
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  266. # [18:22] <adrianba> rubys: basically the bug was split off - no problem with that
  267. # [18:22] <adrianba> ...person that did that automatically made it LC1
  268. # [18:22] <adrianba> ... if nobody goes ahead we'll do that
  269. # [18:23] <adrianba> paulc: basically the principle that the chairs are trying to follow: since this type of change doesn't result in a mail to the mailing list
  270. # [18:23] <rubys> s/nobody goes ahead/nobody objects/
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  273. # [18:24] <adrianba> ... chairs are in favour of divide and conquer, if changes are to be made to a product they should be shared to the wg first
  274. # [18:24] <adrianba> bug 11329?
  275. # [18:24] <pimpbot> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11329 schwer, P2, NEW, HTML 5 supporting browsers must generate resize event during a zoom.
  276. # [18:25] <adrianba> paulc: here we wanted everyone to be aware that this pre-LC bug changed component to move it outside of the domain of the html wg
  277. # [18:25] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Oct/0139.html
  278. # [18:25] <pimpbot> Title: Status of bug 11329 from Sam Ruby on 2011-10-25 (public-html@w3.org from October 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
  279. # [18:25] <adrianba> ... want to make sure people are aware of this situation - there was a desire to change the priority of this bug
  280. # [18:25] <adrianba> ... just putting it in front of the wg - if someone wants to comment they should respond to the mail on the list
  281. # [18:26] <adrianba> ... on the question of priority, if someone thinks a bug should be processed before the next deadline (dec 31) they should send it to the chairs for consideration on a case by case basis
  282. # [18:26] <adrianba> paulc: next is a message sent to the a11y list - request to reopen issue-131
  283. # [18:26] <adrianba> ISSUE-131?
  284. # [18:26] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-131
  285. # [18:26] <trackbot> ISSUE-131 -- Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? -- closed
  286. # [18:26] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/131
  287. # [18:26] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-131: Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  288. # [18:26] <adrianba> paulc: reopen requests must be made with a change proposal according to the decision policy
  289. # [18:27] <adrianba> ... so this request has been rejected at this time
  290. # [18:27] <adrianba> ... this was discussed during the TF call this morning
  291. # [18:27] <adrianba> paulc: TPAC is next week - won't be having a call next week because of meeting on thu/fri
  292. # [18:27] <adrianba> ... if someone is thinking of registering late, main hotel is full and registration is walk-in rate
  293. # [18:28] <adrianba> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35125/TPAC2011/registrants#HTML
  294. # [18:28] <adrianba> paulc: get there early to get a good seat - if half the observers registered turn up there will be a large number of people
  295. # [18:28] <adrianba> ... we do have more than one room to accommodate the unconference
  296. # [18:28] <adrianba> janina: i believe they are no longer accepting registrations
  297. # [18:29] * dsinger_ that is great news for the w3c and its relevance!
  298. # [18:29] <adrianba> paulc: the chairs received a couple of requests for liaison sessions with other WGs and IGs
  299. # [18:29] <adrianba> ... we accepted one with web and tv ig
  300. # [18:29] <adrianba> ... we anchored one time for this meeting
  301. # [18:30] <adrianba> ... they have one plenary session on wednesday also and i've contacted the chairs to ask about the content of the two sessions
  302. # [18:30] <adrianba> ... will obviously be part of unconference planning - think it's after lunch on thursday
  303. # [18:31] <adrianba> janina: they are also meeting with PF earlier in the week where the topic will be the user requirements for media in the a11y TF
  304. # [18:31] <adrianba> paulc: since the want to build on html5 i was planning to try to attend that session to make sure we have additional people getting that info
  305. # [18:31] <adrianba> TOPIC: Chair and Scribe for next meeting
  306. # [18:31] <adrianba> paulc: this is the week after next - nov 10
  307. # [18:32] <adrianba> ... chair will be maciej if he's available
  308. # [18:32] <adrianba> ,,, any volunteers for scribing that meeting?
  309. # [18:32] <adrianba> s/,,,/.../
  310. # [18:32] <adrianba> paulc: none heard - sure one of the other co-chairs will help if we don't get a volunteer between now and then
  311. # [18:32] <adrianba> TOPIC: Adjournment
  312. # [18:33] <adrianba> paulc: thanks everyone - adjourn the meeting now
  313. # [18:33] <Zakim> -Radhika_Roy
  314. # [18:33] <Zakim> -Julian
  315. # [18:33] <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
  316. # [18:33] <Zakim> -Janina
  317. # [18:33] <Zakim> -Sam
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  320. # [18:33] <Zakim> -mjs_
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  322. # [18:33] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
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  326. # [18:33] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14202] Describe how to use microdata to mark up publication and modification date information for <article>s <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1233.html> ** [Bug 13769] WF3: Add trim="" attribute to <input type=text/search> that strips leading and trailing whitespace from the value <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1232.html>
  327. # [18:33] <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
  328. # [18:33] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  329. # [18:33] <Zakim> Attendees were dsinger, Julian, Radhika_Roy, Sam, paulc, Janina, adrianba, [Microsoft], Cynthia_Shelly, mjs_
  330. # [18:33] <adrianba> rrsagent, make minutes
  331. # [18:33] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/10/27-html-wg-minutes.html adrianba
  332. # [18:33] <adrianba> rrsagent, make logs public
  333. # [18:33] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, adrianba
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  337. # [18:37] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/10/27-html-wg-minutes.html adrianba
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  366. # [20:45] <pimpbot> planet: Rob Hawkes: Mozilla Hacks Weekly, October 27th 2011 <http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/10/mozilla-hacks-weekly-october-27th-2011/>
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  371. # [22:11] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14577] New: "state changed is true, fire a popstate event" -- missing "If" <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1234.html>
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  373. # [22:35] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: A first pass (for this quarter, anyway) at cleaning up some terminology around the word 'document'. (whatwg r6771) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Oct/0162.html>
  374. # [22:41] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14565] Chain of normative statements connecting MIME type to HTML vs. XHTML is broken or unobvious <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1235.html> ** [Bug 14565] Chain of normative statements connecting MIME type to HTML vs. XHTML is broken or unobvious <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1236.html> ** [Bug 14565] Chain of normative statements connecting MIME type to HTML
  375. # [22:45] <pimpbot> planet: Ian Jacobs: Interview: Filament Group on HTML5 and Design <http://www.w3.org/QA/2011/10/interview_filament_group_on_ht.html> ** Pascal Chevrel: 2010 yearly report <http://www.chevrel.org/fr/carnet/?post/2011/01/17/2010-yearly-report>
  376. # [23:07] <pimpbot> changes: hixie: Tweak definition to heycam's wording. (whatwg r6774) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Oct/0165.html> ** hixie: Add examples for accessKeyLabel (whatwg r6773) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Oct/0164.html> ** SSE; hixie: Make sure once you call closed() that EventSource objects stay down. (whatwg r6772) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Oct/0163.htm
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  378. # [23:13] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13983] WF2: It seems like textarea's raw value should always normalize newlines to \n <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1241.html> ** [Bug 13902] Add some examples of what accessKeyLabel might display (see comment 3) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1239.html> ** [Bug 13902] Add some examples of what accessKeyLabel might display (see comment 3) <http://lists.w3.o
  379. # [23:44] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 13902] Add some examples of what accessKeyLabel might display (see comment 3) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Oct/1242.html>
  380. # [23:45] <pimpbot> planet: ieblog: Best Practices for Getting Started with SVG <http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2011/10/27/best-practices-for-getting-started-with-svg.aspx>
  381. # Session Close: Fri Oct 28 00:00:00 2011

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