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  3. # [00:21] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14709] user agent lang tag handling is insufficiently specified <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0593.html>
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  25. # [01:53] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14709] user agent lang tag handling is insufficiently specified <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0594.html>
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  34. # [03:27] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14709] user agent lang tag handling is insufficiently specified <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0595.html>
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  38. # [03:57] <pimpbot> planet: dknite: Flash enhancements on Firefox Android Native <http://dknite.wordpress.com/2011/11/17/flash-enhancements-on-firefox-android-native/> ** JoeStagner: 60 Days as a Linux user by a recovering Windows Guy. <http://www.misfitgeek.com/2011/11/60-days-as-a-linux-user/>
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  40. # [04:58] <pimpbot> planet: JoeStagner: Weekly Links– 2011_36 (50 for Web Devs & Other Geeks) <http://www.misfitgeek.com/2011/11/weekly-links-2011_36/>
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  47. # [05:58] <pimpbot> planet: Jesper Kristensen: Firefox/Gecko Delivery Meeting Minutes: 2011-11-16 <http://blog.mozilla.com/meeting-notes/archives/709>
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  78. # [11:11] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14850] New: make unicode-bidi:isolate default for flow elements with a dir attribute too <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0596.html>
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  84. # [11:41] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14851] New: Add seek() function for non-exact (fast) seeking <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0597.html> ** [Bug 14851] <video> Add seek() function for non-exact (fast) seeking <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0598.html>
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  87. # [12:11] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14851] <video> Add seek() function for non-exact (fast) seeking <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0599.html>
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  94. # [14:00] <pimpbot> planet: Robert Nyman: Mozilla Hacks Weekly, November 17th 2011 <http://hacks.mozilla.org/2011/11/mozilla-hacks-weekly-november-17th-2011/>
  95. # [14:14] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14853] New: The variable 'node' in the example function 'processClick' is never defined anywhere <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0600.html>
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  111. # [16:18] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11482] WF2: Change accept="" to accept file extensions as well as MIME types (maybe based on whether they start with a period) <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0601.html>
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  128. # [17:56] <rubys> There was no call for scribes in the last telecon, so I am without a volunteer. Anybody willing to scribe?
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  130. # [18:04] * dsinger_ zakim, mute dsinger
  131. # [18:04] <rubys> trackbot, start meeting
  132. # [18:04] * trackbot is preparing a teleconference
  133. # [18:04] <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
  134. # [18:04] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, trackbot
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  136. # [18:04] <trackbot> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  137. # [18:04] <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
  138. # [18:04] <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
  139. # [18:04] <trackbot> Date: 17 November 2011
  140. # [18:04] <Zakim> -dsinger
  141. # [18:04] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  142. # [18:04] <Zakim> Attendees were dsinger
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  144. # [18:05] <rubys> Zakim, this will be html_wg
  145. # [18:05] <Zakim> ok, rubys; I see HTML_WG()12:00PM scheduled to start in 1 minute
  146. # [18:05] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has now started
  147. # [18:05] <Zakim> +??P12
  148. # [18:05] * dsinger_ zakim, mute dsinger
  149. # [18:05] * Zakim sorry, dsinger_, I do not know which phone connection belongs to dsinger
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  151. # [18:05] <Zakim> +dsinger
  152. # [18:05] * dsinger_ zakim, mute dsinger
  153. # [18:05] * Zakim dsinger should now be muted
  154. # [18:05] <Zakim> +kimberly
  155. # [18:05] <Zakim> +Sam
  156. # [18:06] <janina> zakim, who's on the phone?
  157. # [18:06] <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P12, dsinger (muted), kimberly, Sam
  158. # [18:06] <janina> zakim, ??P12 is Janina_Sajka
  159. # [18:06] <Zakim> +Janina_Sajka; got it
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  165. # [18:07] <Zakim> + +9251280aaaa
  166. # [18:07] <Julian> Zakim, +9251280aaaa is me
  167. # [18:07] <Zakim> +Julian; got it
  168. # [18:07] <Julian> Zakim, mute me
  169. # [18:07] <Zakim> Julian should now be muted
  170. # [18:08] <Zakim> +Radhika_Roy
  171. # [18:08] * dsinger_ someone dropped something?
  172. # [18:08] <rubys> still looking for a scribe...
  173. # [18:08] <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
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  175. # [18:08] <krisk> +Microsoft is krisk
  176. # [18:09] <krisk> Zakim, +Microsoft is krisk
  177. # [18:09] <Zakim> sorry, krisk, I do not recognize a party named '+Microsoft'
  178. # [18:09] <krisk> Zakim, +[Microsoft] is krisk
  179. # [18:09] <Zakim> sorry, krisk, I do not recognize a party named '+[Microsoft]'
  180. # [18:09] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
  181. # [18:09] <eliot> zakim, microsoft.a is me
  182. # [18:10] <Zakim> +eliot; got it
  183. # [18:10] <krisk> Zakim, Microsoft is krisk
  184. # [18:10] <rubys> chair: rubys
  185. # [18:10] <rubys> scribenick: rubys
  186. # [18:10] <Zakim> +krisk; got it
  187. # [18:10] <rubys> topic: ACTION items due by Thursday, November 17
  188. # [18:10] <rubys> action-205?
  189. # [18:10] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-205
  190. # [18:10] <trackbot> ACTION-205 -- Paul Cotton to contact the TAG [noah, jeni] to find out the status of the html data tf -- due 2011-11-17 -- OPEN
  191. # [18:10] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/205
  192. # [18:10] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-205: Contact the TAG [noah, jeni] to find out the status of the html data tf - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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  195. # [18:11] <rubys> close action-205
  196. # [18:11] * trackbot attempting to close ACTION-205.
  197. # [18:11] <trackbot> ACTION-205 Contact the TAG [noah, jeni] to find out the status of the html data tf closed
  198. # [18:11] <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
  199. # [18:11] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
  200. # [18:11] <Zakim> +Mike
  201. # [18:11] <rubys> ACTION-208?
  202. # [18:11] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-208
  203. # [18:11] <trackbot> ACTION-208 -- Michael[tm] Smith to sync up with Peter St. Andre on URL processing draft and report back in two weeks -- due 2011-11-18 -- OPEN
  204. # [18:11] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/208
  205. # [18:11] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-208: Sync up with Peter St. Andre on URL processing draft and report back in two weeks - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  206. # [18:12] <rubys> mike: we are still working on this, I'll change the due date. We have a call set up with the i18n working group for next week
  207. # [18:12] <rubys> action-208 due in 2 weeks
  208. # [18:12] * trackbot attempting to change due date on ACTION-208.
  209. # [18:12] <trackbot> ACTION-208 Sync up with Peter St. Andre on URL processing draft and report back in two weeks due date now in 2 weeks
  210. # [18:12] <rubys> topic: New Issues This Week
  211. # [18:12] <Zakim> + +1.417.671.aabb
  212. # [18:12] <rubys> rubys: there are none
  213. # [18:12] <rubys> topic: Items Closed Last Week
  214. # [18:12] <rubys> issue-179?
  215. # [18:12] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-179
  216. # [18:12] <trackbot> ISSUE-179 -- {audio,video} require param child (or equivalent) -- open
  217. # [18:12] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/179
  218. # [18:12] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-179: {audio,video} require param child (or equivalent) - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  219. # [18:13] <rubys> action-207?
  220. # [18:13] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-207
  221. # [18:13] <trackbot> ACTION-207 -- Paul Cotton to confirm that change proposal for av_param is still active -- due 2011-12-01 -- OPEN
  222. # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/207
  223. # [18:13] <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-207: Confirm that change proposal for av_param is still active - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  224. # [18:13] <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
  225. # [18:13] <rubys> issue-133?
  226. # [18:13] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-133
  227. # [18:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-133 -- Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) -- open
  228. # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/133
  229. # [18:13] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-133: Add a modal attribute to html5 to indicate a modal segment of the DOM (modal dialog) - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  230. # [18:13] <rubys> rubys: we haven't declared consensus yet, no objections but no consensus
  231. # [18:13] <rubys> ISSUE-164?
  232. # [18:13] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-164
  233. # [18:13] <trackbot> ISSUE-164 -- remove or modify hgroup -- open
  234. # [18:13] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/164
  235. # [18:13] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-164: remove or modify hgroup - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  236. # [18:14] <rubys> rubys: call for consensus failed, we have a number of proposals
  237. # [18:14] <rubys> ISSUE-170
  238. # [18:14] <rubys> rubys: the next step is for the chairs to review the proposals
  239. # [18:14] <rubys> topic: Items Closing This Week
  240. # [18:14] <Zakim> -Radhika_Roy
  241. # [18:14] <rubys> rubys: there are none
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  243. # [18:15] <rubys> topic: Items Closing Next Week
  244. # [18:15] <rubys> issue-174?
  245. # [18:15] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-174
  246. # [18:15] <trackbot> ISSUE-174 -- potential conflict between Link: and <link> semantics -- open
  247. # [18:15] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/174
  248. # [18:15] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-174: potential conflict between Link: and semantics - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  249. # [18:15] <rubys> rubys: we have yet to receive a counter proposal
  250. # [18:15] <rubys> issue-181?
  251. # [18:15] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-181
  252. # [18:15] <trackbot> ISSUE-181 -- remove remains of "sidebar" link relation -- raised
  253. # [18:15] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/181
  254. # [18:15] <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-181: remove remains of "sidebar" link relation - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
  255. # [18:15] <rubys> rubys: we have yet to receive a proposal
  256. # [18:15] <rubys> topic: New Calls this week
  257. # [18:15] <rubys> rubys: none
  258. # [18:16] <rubys> topic: New Surveys this week
  259. # [18:16] <rubys> rubys: none
  260. # [18:16] <rubys> topic: Decisions this week
  261. # [18:16] <rubys> rubys: none
  262. # [18:16] <rubys> topic: Testing Task Force
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  264. # [18:16] <krisk> Group met as planned on Nov 15th, we meet again on 29th
  265. # [18:16] <krisk> Meeting notes -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2011Nov/0018.html
  266. # [18:16] <pimpbot> Title: RE: HTML Testing Task Force Conf Call Agenda 11/15/2011 from Kris Krueger on 2011-11-17 (public-html-testsuite@w3.org from November 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
  267. # [18:17] <krisk> HTML5 bidi test submissions - new activity http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/submission/html5bidi/br/br-bidi.html
  268. # [18:17] <pimpbot> Title: HTML Test: BR separates bidi paragraph (at w3c-test.org)
  269. # [18:17] <krisk> Discussion about ES5 dependant changes made to testharness.js
  270. # [18:17] <krisk> need to get clarity from 'fritz' on his push back
  271. # [18:18] <krisk> ...really this is to support webidl testing
  272. # [18:18] <krisk> One new bug file on a canvas (http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=14421)
  273. # [18:18] <pimpbot> 14421: benwells, P2, NEW, Possible error in canvas Philip test 2d.path.stroke.prune.arc
  274. # [18:18] <rubys> topic: Accessibility Task Force
  275. # [18:19] <rubys> mike: the biggest thing is needing to progress on LongDesc
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  277. # [18:21] <rubys> rubys: the next step is for chairs to provide written feedback to the remaining two proposals, after which there will be an opportunity for the authors of the various proposals to make final updates. If two or more proposals still remain, the next step would be a survey
  278. # [18:21] <rubys> topic: Other Business
  279. # [18:21] <rubys> http://www.w3.org/QA/2011/11/openweb-weekly-19.html
  280. # [18:22] <pimpbot> Title: Open Web Platform Weekly Summary - 2011-11-07 - 2011-11-13 - W3C Blog (at www.w3.org)
  281. # [18:22] <rubys> topic: time, date, and pubdate
  282. # [18:22] <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Nov/0094.html
  283. # [18:22] <pimpbot> Title: noted 3 issues re: time/data (was Re: minutes for HTML WG f2f, 2011-11-04, part 1) from Tantek Çelik on 2011-11-10 (public-html@w3.org from November 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
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  286. # [18:23] <rubys> rubys: it was hoped that we would find that on at least one of those issues we would not find contention, but at the present time it looks like there will be contention on all three
  287. # [18:23] <rubys> rubys: people interested in the topic should join the discussion on the list
  288. # [18:24] <rubys> topic: Scribe for next meeting
  289. # [18:24] <rubys> rubys: any volunteers?
  290. # [18:24] * dsinger given that the chairs are all us-resident :-(
  291. # [18:24] <rubys> rubys: we should not have a meeting on thanksgiving, so the next meeting would be december 1st.
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  293. # [18:25] <rubys> topic: Adjournment
  294. # [18:25] * dsinger thx sam
  295. # [18:25] <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
  296. # [18:25] <Zakim> -Mike
  297. # [18:25] <Zakim> -Julian
  298. # [18:25] <Zakim> -kimberly
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  301. # [18:25] <Zakim> -Sam
  302. # [18:25] <Zakim> -Janina_Sajka
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  304. # [18:25] <Zakim> -eliot
  305. # [18:25] <Zakim> -krisk
  306. # [18:25] <rubys> rrsagent, publish minutes
  307. # [18:25] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/11/17-html-wg-minutes.html rubys
  308. # [18:25] <Zakim> - +1.417.671.aabb
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  310. # [18:25] <Zakim> -dsinger
  311. # [18:25] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  312. # [18:25] <Zakim> Attendees were dsinger, kimberly, Sam, Janina_Sajka, Julian, Radhika_Roy, eliot, krisk, Mike, +1.417.671.aabb, Cynthia_Shelly
  313. # [18:25] <rubys> rrsagent, publish minutes
  314. # [18:25] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/11/17-html-wg-minutes.html rubys
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  316. # [18:25] <pimpbot> Title: HTML Weekly Teleconference -- 17 Nov 2011 (at www.w3.org)
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  351. # [20:33] <pimpbot> changes: sam: issue updates <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Nov/0031.html>
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  379. # [22:28] <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 14869] New: U+003C LESS-THAN SING <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0613.html> ** [Bug 14868] New: U+003C LESS-THAN SING <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0612.html> ** [Bug 14867] New: U+003C LESS-THAN SING <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Nov/0611.html> ** [Bug 14866] New: U+003C LESS-THAN SING <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/P
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