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  94. # [18:08] <mjs> hi everyone
  95. # [18:08] <MikeSmith> hola
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  97. # [18:08] <eliot> hi
  98. # [18:09] <Julian> ho
  99. # [18:09] <mjs> any volunteers to scribe?
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  101. # [18:10] <Julian> once I can tell Zakim!
  102. # [18:10] <glenn> zakim, this is html
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  104. # [18:10] <mjs> Zakim, this is html
  105. # [18:10] <Zakim> ok, mjs; that matches HTML_WG()12:00PM
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  107. # [18:10] <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/01/12-html-wg-irc
  108. # [18:11] <Julian> Zakim, who's on the phone?
  109. # [18:11] <Zakim> On the phone I see +49.251.280.aaaa, [Microsoft], [Microsoft.a], +1.415.595.aabb, Radhika_Roy, GlennAdams
  110. # [18:11] <glenn> zakim, who is noisy?
  111. # [18:11] <paulc> zakim, who is making noise?
  112. # [18:11] <Julian> Zakim, +49.251.280.aaaa is me
  113. # [18:11] <Zakim> +Julian; got it
  114. # [18:11] <eliot> zakim, microsoft has me
  115. # [18:11] <Zakim> +eliot; got it
  116. # [18:11] <mjs> Zakim: +1.415.595.aabb is me
  117. # [18:11] <Zakim> glenn, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: +49.251.280.aaaa (39%)
  118. # [18:11] <Julian> Zakim, mute me
  119. # [18:11] <Zakim> Julian should now be muted
  120. # [18:11] <Zakim> paulc, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Julian (19%)
  121. # [18:11] <paulc> zakim, who's on the phone?
  122. # [18:11] <Zakim> On the phone I see Julian (muted), [Microsoft], [Microsoft.a], +1.415.595.aabb, Radhika_Roy, GlennAdams
  123. # [18:11] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has eliot
  124. # [18:11] <eliot> did not
  125. # [18:12] * Julian sorry for that, but I needed Zakim to mute me
  126. # [18:12] <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft.a] has paulc
  127. # [18:12] <Zakim> +paulc; got it
  128. # [18:12] <Zakim> +??P15
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  130. # [18:13] <janina> zakim, who's here?
  131. # [18:13] <Zakim> On the phone I see Julian (muted), [Microsoft], [Microsoft.a], +1.415.595.aabb, Radhika_Roy, GlennAdams, ??P15
  132. # [18:13] <Zakim> [Microsoft.a] has paulc
  133. # [18:13] <Zakim> [Microsoft] has eliot
  134. # [18:13] <Zakim> On IRC I see janina, RRSAgent, Zakim, paulc, MFoladare, glenn, mjs, eliot, Julian, krisk, tH, heycam|away, webben, miketaylr, Lachy, dveditz, davidb, danielfilho, plh, MikeSmith,
  135. # [18:13] <Zakim> ... ArtB, nonge_, krijnh, arronei, gavin_, tantek, shepazu, Dashiva, Jedi, CIA-1, rektide, hiro, hober, hsivonen, ed, paul___irish, johndrinkwater, trackbot, slightlyoff, pingo,
  136. # [18:13] <Zakim> ... Hixie, inimino, Philip, jgraham, [tm], jmb
  137. # [18:13] <janina> zakim, ??P15 is Janina_Sajka
  138. # [18:13] <Zakim> +Janina_Sajka; got it
  139. # [18:13] <Zakim> +Cynthia_Shelly
  140. # [18:13] <mjs> Julian, still willing to scribe?
  141. # [18:14] <Julian> mjs, no - did I say so?
  142. # [18:14] <mjs> Julian: I may have misunderstood - right after I asked for a volunteer you said "once I can tell Zakim!"
  143. # [18:15] <paulc> We can hear you.
  144. # [18:15] <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
  145. # [18:15] <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
  146. # [18:15] <mjs> scribenick: mjs
  147. # [18:15] <Zakim> +Mike
  148. # [18:16] <Zakim> +tantek
  149. # [18:16] <mjs> ACTION-207?
  150. # [18:16] * trackbot getting information on ACTION-207
  151. # [18:16] <trackbot> ACTION-207 -- Paul Cotton to confirm that change proposal for av_param is still active -- due 2011-01-05 -- OPEN
  152. # [18:16] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/207
  153. # [18:16] <mjs> topic: New Issues This Week
  154. # [18:16] <paulc> ACTION-207 is due next week
  155. # [18:16] <mjs> MS: none
  156. # [18:16] <Zakim> +[Microsoft.aa]
  157. # [18:17] <mjs> MS: 3 tracker requsts: http://w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML+WG&keywords=TrackerRequest
  158. # [18:17] <tantek> Zakim, mute tantek
  159. # [18:17] <Zakim> tantek should now be muted
  160. # [18:17] <mjs> topic: Items Closed Last Week
  161. # [18:17] <mjs> MS: none
  162. # [18:17] <mjs> topic: Items Closing This Week
  163. # [18:17] <mjs> MS: ISSUE-189 uri-web-prefix
  164. # [18:17] <mjs> ISSUE-189?
  165. # [18:17] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-189
  166. # [18:18] <trackbot> ISSUE-189 -- Prefix convention needs to be coordinated with IETF -- raised
  167. # [18:18] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/189
  168. # [18:18] <krisk> zakim, Microsoft.aa is krisk
  169. # [18:18] <Zakim> +krisk; got it
  170. # [18:18] <mjs> topic: Items Closing Next Week
  171. # [18:18] * Julian is aware of the deadline
  172. # [18:18] <mjs> MS: ISSUE-187: validity-stability extended til Jan 21
  173. # [18:19] <mjs> ISSUE-187?
  174. # [18:19] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-187
  175. # [18:19] <trackbot> ISSUE-187 -- Document conformance has to be stable over the time -- raised
  176. # [18:19] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/187
  177. # [18:19] <mjs> MS: ISSUE-190: coding-example, due Jan 21
  178. # [18:19] <mjs> ISSUE-190?
  179. # [18:19] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-190
  180. # [18:19] <trackbot> ISSUE-190 -- Replace poor coding example for figure with multiple images -- raised
  181. # [18:19] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/190
  182. # [18:19] <mjs> MS: ISSUE-191: ins-del due Jan 21
  183. # [18:19] <mjs> ISSUE-191?
  184. # [18:19] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-191
  185. # [18:19] <trackbot> ISSUE-191 -- Replace/complement <ins> and <del> elements by a cleaner wysiwyg-safe attribute-based solution -- raised
  186. # [18:19] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/191
  187. # [18:19] <mjs> MS: ISSUE-192: title-attribute due Jan 21
  188. # [18:20] <mjs> ISSUE-192?
  189. # [18:20] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-192
  190. # [18:20] <trackbot> ISSUE-192 -- title attribute definition does not match reality -- raised
  191. # [18:20] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/192
  192. # [18:20] <mjs> MS: due Jan 21
  193. # [18:21] <mjs> CS: (inquires about nature of Jan 21)
  194. # [18:22] <mjs> MS: see the issue description
  195. # [18:22] <mjs> CS: Steve is probably going to send something
  196. # [18:22] <mjs> JS: and he will probably have task force backing
  197. # [18:22] <mjs> Topic: New Calls this week
  198. # [18:22] <mjs> MS: quite a few this week
  199. # [18:22] <mjs> MS: ISSUE-180: allowpopups, Call for Consensus closes Jan 18
  200. # [18:23] <mjs> ISSUE-180?
  201. # [18:23] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-180
  202. # [18:23] <trackbot> ISSUE-180 -- Add "allow-popups" for iframe@sandbox -- open
  203. # [18:23] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/180
  204. # [18:23] <mjs> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0037.html
  205. # [18:23] <mjs> MS: ISSUE-179: av_param, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Feb 11
  206. # [18:23] <mjs> ISSUE-179?
  207. # [18:23] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-179
  208. # [18:23] <trackbot> ISSUE-179 -- {audio,video} require param child (or equivalent) -- open
  209. # [18:23] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/179
  210. # [18:24] <mjs> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0045.html
  211. # [18:24] <mjs> MS: ISSUE-181: remove-sidebar, Call for Consensus closes Jan 18
  212. # [18:24] <mjs> ISSUE-181?
  213. # [18:24] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-181
  214. # [18:24] <trackbot> ISSUE-181 -- remove remains of "sidebar" link relation -- open
  215. # [18:24] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/181
  216. # [18:24] <mjs> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0038.html
  217. # [18:24] <mjs> MS: ISSUE-172: restore-rb, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Feb 11
  218. # [18:25] <mjs> ISSUE-172?
  219. # [18:25] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-172
  220. # [18:25] <trackbot> ISSUE-172 -- restore <rb> as an optional element -- raised
  221. # [18:25] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/172
  222. # [18:25] <mjs> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0039.html
  223. # [18:25] <mjs> MS: ISSUE-183: enhance-time, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Feb 11
  224. # [18:26] <mjs> ISSUE-183?
  225. # [18:26] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-183
  226. # [18:26] <trackbot> ISSUE-183 -- Enhance and simplify the time element -- open
  227. # [18:26] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/183
  228. # [18:26] <mjs> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0047.html
  229. # [18:26] <mjs> MS: ISSUE-184: data-element, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Feb 11
  230. # [18:26] <mjs> ISSUE-184?
  231. # [18:26] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-184
  232. # [18:26] <trackbot> ISSUE-184 -- Add a data element -- open
  233. # [18:26] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/184
  234. # [18:26] <mjs> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0042.html
  235. # [18:27] <tantek> aside: I've worked to resolve differeing opinions on ISSUE-183 and don't know of any outstanding alternate opinions on it - if anyone does, please let me know so we can attempt include that in the consensus.
  236. # [18:28] <mjs> MS: ISSUE-185: drop-pubdate, Call for Alternate or Counter Proposals closes Feb 11
  237. # [18:28] <mjs> ISSUE-185?
  238. # [18:28] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-185
  239. # [18:28] <trackbot> ISSUE-185 -- Drop the pubdate attribute -- open
  240. # [18:28] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/185
  241. # [18:28] <mjs> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0040.html
  242. # [18:29] <mjs> MS: ISSUE-131: caret-location-API, Call for Proposals closes Feb 11
  243. # [18:29] <mjs> ISSUE-131?
  244. # [18:29] * trackbot getting information on ISSUE-131
  245. # [18:29] <trackbot> ISSUE-131 -- Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? -- open
  246. # [18:29] <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/131
  247. # [18:29] <mjs> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0041.html
  248. # [18:30] <mjs> MS: clock is ticking
  249. # [18:30] <mjs> MS: any questions?
  250. # [18:30] <mjs> JS: in last week's TF call we discussed 131
  251. # [18:30] <mjs> JS: we will have a CP from the TF, Steve Faulkner will be the editor
  252. # [18:31] <mjs> MS: thanks; any other qustions?
  253. # [18:31] <mjs> topic: New Surveys this week
  254. # [18:31] <mjs> MS: None
  255. # [18:31] <mjs> topic: Decisions this week
  256. # [18:31] <mjs> MS: ISSUE-182: footnote-recommendation, Closed Without Prejudice
  257. # [18:33] <mjs> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0049.html
  258. # [18:33] <mjs> MS: closed without prejudice means you can reopen it just by submitting a Change Proposal
  259. # [18:33] <mjs> MS: any questions?
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  261. # [18:33] <mjs> Topic: Task Force Reports
  262. # [18:34] <mjs> MS: testing task force?
  263. # [18:34] <mjs> KK: I'm here
  264. # [18:34] <krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Jan/0001.html
  265. # [18:34] <mjs> KK: we met as planned last week
  266. # [18:34] <mjs> KK: meet again this coming week on normal schedule
  267. # [18:34] <mjs> KK: there were some offline app cache tests
  268. # [18:34] <mjs> KK: that's one big thing
  269. # [18:34] <krisk> offline appcache tests are in HG http://test.w3.org/html/tests/submission/Infraware/
  270. # [18:34] <mjs> KK: more bidi tests submitted
  271. # [18:34] <krisk> http://test.w3.org/html/tests/submission/html5bidi/
  272. # [18:35] <mjs> MS: accessibility task force?
  273. # [18:35] <mjs> JS: accessibility TF has been busy
  274. # [18:36] <mjs> JS: decided on approach w/ Steve F as editor
  275. # [18:36] <mjs> JS: the rest of our attention is on 100+ bugs; deciding which we need to escalate
  276. # [18:36] <mjs> JS: expect as many as 5 more escalations
  277. # [18:36] <mjs> JS: one more meeting planned to categorize
  278. # [18:37] <mjs> JS: will relate various bugs that are related
  279. # [18:37] <mjs> JS: trying to organize the issues and combine related bugs
  280. # [18:37] <janina> http://www.w3.org/2012/01/12-html-a11y-minutes.html
  281. # [18:37] <mjs> JS: text sub team met this week
  282. # [18:37] <mjs> JS: several issues were discussed; talked about title
  283. # [18:37] <mjs> JS: you can expect a meta generator request to reconsider next week
  284. # [18:37] <mjs> JS: great interest and concern to respond to longdesc
  285. # [18:38] <mjs> JS: that's it
  286. # [18:38] <mjs> MS: any questions or comments about task force reports?
  287. # [18:38] <mjs> topic: Other Business
  288. # [18:38] <mjs> topic: Scribe for Next Meeting
  289. # [18:39] <glenn> i can volunteer
  290. # [18:39] <mjs> topic: Adjournment
  291. # [18:41] <mjs> RRSAgent, generate minute
  292. # [18:41] <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'generate minute', mjs. Try /msg RRSAgent help
  293. # [18:41] <Zakim> - +1.415.595.aabb
  294. # [18:41] <Zakim> -Janina_Sajka
  295. # [18:41] <Zakim> -Mike
  296. # [18:41] <Zakim> -Radhika_Roy
  297. # [18:41] <Zakim> -Julian
  298. # [18:41] * Parts: janina (janina@173.66.40.230)
  299. # [18:41] <Zakim> -krisk
  300. # [18:41] <tantek> bye!
  301. # [18:41] <Zakim> -GlennAdams
  302. # [18:41] <mjs> RRSAgent, generate minutes
  303. # [18:41] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/12-html-wg-minutes.html mjs
  304. # [18:41] <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
  305. # [18:41] <Zakim> -tantek
  306. # [18:41] <Zakim> -Cynthia_Shelly
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  309. # [18:41] <mjs> RRSAgent, make minutes public
  310. # [18:41] <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'make minutes public', mjs. Try /msg RRSAgent help
  311. # [18:41] <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
  312. # [18:41] <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
  313. # [18:42] <Zakim> Attendees were +1.415.595.aabb, Radhika_Roy, GlennAdams, Julian, eliot, paulc, Janina_Sajka, Cynthia_Shelly, Mike, tantek, [Microsoft], krisk
  314. # [18:43] <mjs> RRSAgent, publish minutes
  315. # [18:43] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/12-html-wg-minutes.html mjs
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  317. # [18:43] <mjs> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible
  318. # [18:43] <RRSAgent> I have made the request, mjs
  319. # [18:44] <mjs> RRSAgent, publish minutes
  320. # [18:44] <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2012/01/12-html-wg-minutes.html mjs
  321. # [18:44] <mjs> I'm getting a permissions error on http://www.w3.org/2012/01/12-html-wg-minutes.html , is anyone else having better luck?
  322. # [18:44] <mjs> ah, there we go
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